CS player gets shot while trying to foil a robbery

[>HyperlogiK<]

I saw this on the register:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05/29/gamer_shooting/comments/

Personally I think he was a dumbass, but one of the comments on the story had me in stiches:

"Could he not afford kevlar at the beginning of the round? Guess he should have stuck to camping."

[PhysX]

i agree... funny quote.

[SteveLord]

Unwise decision on his part. I've even seen a video of 4 men fighting back against a single gunmen...and guess what? 1 is killed, 1 is critically wounded and the gunman gets away still.

Better think twice before risking your life when no one else is in immediate danger.

And finally...hero is a word too often thrown around in today's world.

[Oni]

According to Jack Thompson, this kid should be the one with the gun, stalking classroom to classroom, not the one who tries to stop someone from getting hurt.

What he did was pretty foolish, but it was also pretty amazing. I don't know if I'd be able to do that, but I'd like to think that I would.

[rainless]

There's something about Counter-strike and Halo players that I'll simply never understand...

Somehow Unreal Tournament 2004 afficianados like myself don't blow up classrooms or get shot in the chest on the way to work. :)

[Radical]

I don't see how his being a CS player relates to him trying to help the guards. I mean, yeah, he plays CS. So? This is the same thing as people blaming video games on school shootings. And to the people calling him stupid on the Register site, you should be a little more reverent.

[Brando]

It's funny that they even think to bring up the fact that he games. If you start thinking like that theres no end to it.

Statistic: Over 99% of serial killers chew gum. Coincidence?

[hUMANbEATbOX]

100% of child molesters breath air. OMG I COULD BE SURROUNDED BY CHILD MOLESTERS!!

[>HyperlogiK<]

100% of child molesters breath air. OMG I COULD BE SURROUNDED BY CHILD MOLESTERS!!

You should watch the Brass Eye spoof paedophile documentary, "A padeophile, like so many of his kind North was forced to leave school after taking exams!"

[TheGreySpectre]

What makes me sad is that if he didnt play games he probably would have been heralded for being brave instead of of "a man whose brain was so addled by the filth of online, and LAN gaming"

I seriously doubt the fact that he plays CS has anything to do with what he did. and while it isnt something I would have done for fear of getting shot I think he still deserves some respect for trying.

At least he did more than some of the recent american "heros"
(not trying to say this guy is a hero, but I do think he deserves some respect)

[IamPWNT]

Brave yes, he did something that he felt was right and attempted to help. Not exactly the smartest thing surely, I hope he recovers and remembers to make better tactical decisions in the future or better yet never sees anything like this again. As a LEO I am armed at all times and still would have weighed all factors before acting (sometimes it's better to be a good witness than a cowboy), more than likely I would have only attempted to stop the gunman if I felt he was threatening anyone's life, and only if I felt that my getting involved would not have endangered more people including myself. Better to be armed in situations like this, but the best weapon you have is your brain, having a gun does not mean you win, but if you are trained to use it and your brain in conjunction with it and can act accordingly the possibility of losing goes down significantly.

[shard]

I bet he was a CT junkie ;)

Either way, while being somewhat foolish, at least he attempted to help out someone in need, nothing wrong with that.

[vixro]

Unless somebody else is in danger or it's my money being stolen I'm staying out of the way. Why risk your life or other people's lives over something that doesn't involve you?

[RangerXLT8]

Unless somebody else is in danger or it's my money being stolen I'm staying out of the way. Why risk your life or other people's lives over something that doesn't involve you?

Because some people think about more then just themselves :)

[Elif Tymes]

Apparently, the guards were "struggling" with the robbers. If you saw two uniformed officers attempting to take down two people with ski masks, and you thought you could help, then why the heck wouldn't you?

We don't know the entire situation, so who are we to judge the kid? I'm not sure I'd do the same thing in the situation, but I would not call his actions "Stupid" like some of those commenters.

The difference between a good person and just an average joe is a good person will see a wrong and attempt to fix it, while the average joe/not truly good person will see a wrong and walk by, attempting to fulfill his own goals, keep himself safe, etc.

[shard]

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. - Edmund Burke

Yeah.

[OC Noob]

What makes me sad is that if he didnt play games he probably would have been heralded for being brave instead of of "a man whose brain was so addled by the filth of online, and LAN gaming"

I seriously doubt the fact that he plays CS has anything to do with what he did. and while it isnt something I would have done for fear of getting shot I think he still deserves some respect for trying.

At least he did more than some of the recent american "heros"
(not trying to say this guy is a hero, but I do think he deserves some respect)

lol, journalists are so hard up for something sensational they call everyone a hero.

"Hero fat boy serves as a boyant floatation device saving drowning mother."

"Dog barks during house fire waking up its master and possibly saving his life, dog hailed as hero!"

They call any dumb@ss a hero to get people to watch or read their stuff.

[TommyHolly]

Unwise decision on his part. I've even seen a video of 4 men fighting back against a single gunmen...and guess what? 1 is killed, 1 is critically wounded and the gunman gets away still.

Better think twice before risking your life when no one else is in immediate danger.

And finally...hero is a word too often thrown around in today's world.

Just last week, bank robbers walked into a bank in Chicago, struggled with the security guard and grabbed his gun. Then shot and killed 3 people, wounding another...2 of them over 70 years old!? (Like they posed a threat?) Not one single person in the bank bothered to help the security guard when he was strugglinng to get his gun back. Nobody bothered to help and many people died.

Last month an 59 year old man in New Jersey I think? Was car jacked and severely beaten for over 3 minutes by a lone 20 year old with no weapons. This was done in front of group of 8 capable people just a few feet away that all just sat there and watched. The man was beaten unconcious, almost died and again, nobody helped.

Now I can understand that it is silly to say that CS helped this guy in any way. I can also understand that in many situations, there isnt much opportunity to fight a person in control of a handgun. (However this person went to help the guards who were struggling.) Yes, sometimes it is a good idea to just let the guy get the money and not aggravate a situation.

I'll also agree that hero is a word that gets thrown alot on insignifigant acts. EDIT: I just think this guy is a hero.

[SteveLord]

Hey, I dont disagree that bystanders stand around too often sometimes. There's quite a bunch of sad videos out there that show this. But its also easy to point fingers when you dont know what could have happened if more people got involved. You cant automatically assume that things would turn out better and everyone would go home happy and the bad guy would goto jail. The situation could suddenly turn for the worst, and there could be multiple deaths if not injuries. Depending on the situation, I'll keep "staying alive" as a priority.


As for this, I think it didnt help that I read through that part too fast, and then onto the commentators below it. doh!

[TommyHolly]

I edited my post...sorry I was so rough. I've been in a lot of situations where things would have turned out alot better for me, if someone standing by would have helped me.

[SteveLord]

When I originally read it, I had the visual that they were just walking away with the money...and he rushed in and got shot. I didnt catch the part about them "struggling" at first.

HOOAH

[SuperDave1685]

Hooah? nah... Its more like Semper Fi!

Good on him to at least try and help the security guards. But he ain't no hero by any means. Jump on a grenade thats just landed by us in a fighting hole and then I'll call you a hero...

[>HyperlogiK<]

You can't call somebody a hero, whatever they have done without having a good idea of why they did it. Foolhardiness and lack of fear in a dangerous situation may sometimes lead to a positive outcome, but they are in no way morally commendable.

Also it is usually unwise and sometimes perhaps even immoral (in circumstances where it poses a threat to your family or partner) to tangle with organised criminals. As far as most major robberies go the loss of money isn't important (it is insured), so the only victims are those who are directly injured or traumatized by the criminals. As an unarmed guard or a private citizen unless you happen to have some real serious boxing or martial arts training it is not a good idea to try and stop them.

[freakdiablo]

lol, journalists are so hard up for something sensational they call everyone a hero.

"Hero fat boy serves as a boyant floatation device saving drowning mother."

"Dog barks during house fire waking up its master and possibly saving his life, dog hailed as hero!"

They call any dumb@ss a hero to get people to watch or read their stuff.
Hah, ya. It probably wasnt CS but the chance that he might be hailed as a hero that made him do it. And I like how they say hes good at CS, "OMG THAT MUST BE WHY HE DID THIS. ITS THE ONLY REASON!" Im OK at BF2, but Im not about to run into the nearest war zone.

[>HyperlogiK<]

His father was on the news the other night saying that he always tries things like this, I wondered whether he meant 'this brave' or 'this stupid'.