Can i get anymore outa this pc?

[ufoidentifier]

Hello everyone, currently clocked at 3.8ghz(e66). - Its completely stable for any application i use, but when I oc it to 4ghz sometimes i get blue screens and reboots(after10-30mins).
My question is: Can I get it completely stable at 4ghz or above?

All input is appreciated.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8319/ocshowoffcs1.th.png (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocshowoffcs1.png)

[dylskee]

Wow, nice chip!! :eek: What are you using to cool that thing?? Awesome temps for those kinds of clocks. I would think you're starting to reach your max clock if your giving it over 1.6 vcore.

[inkfx]

How long is that speed Orthos stable and at what voltage? Also what kind of cooling do you have?

[GTengineer]

first of all, that is one hell of an overclock already congrats!

second you need to give more info
what voltages are you using?
what kind of cooling?
what are your temperatures under orthos?

[ufoidentifier]

Thanks guys.., I dont consider it that much of an achievement since it took me 2 days to oc and im not an expert omn overclocking.
Im using an old school big typhoon 120vx(on max) + couple more fans + ac(23c).
This thing is useless in orthos(about 5min and halts), but games and other apps are running ****ing well for over 3-5hours or more without crashing, so im not bothered with orthors.

bios voltages cpu: 1.65V, ram 2.250(2.3v), nb: 1.5v, fsb term.: 1.4V. - thats abot it...

[xtreme_ego]

EDIT:nvm you posted it as i hit reply\


DOUBLE EDIT: so its not stable...............

[GTengineer]

Thanks guys.., I dont consider it that much of an achievement since it took me 2 days to oc and im not an expert omn overclocking.
Im using an old school big typhoon 120vx(on max) + couple more fans + ac(23c).
This thing is useless in orthos(about 5min and halts), but games and other apps are running ****ing well for over 3-5hours or more without crashing, so im not bothered with orthors.

bios voltages cpu: 1.65V, ram 2.250(2.3v), nb: 1.5v, fsb term.: 1.4V. - thats abot it...

:eek:

jeez that seems really high especially for air cooling. have you checked temperatures? I don't take mine above 1.6V and I am on water cooling.

[ufoidentifier]

:eek:

jeez that seems really high especially for air cooling. have you checked temperatures? I don't take mine above 1.6V and I am on water cooling.

anything below 1.7v should br fine, especially if its an e6600. temps seem pretty low for air, my max load is 56c - thats not that bad.

[TheCheat]

I think the rule of thumb for these chips is not to push past 1.55 vcore unless you have water or phase cooling.

However, if you feel comfortable pumpin that chip with that many volts, more power to you.

Nice OC, I've noticed that on air cooling ~3.9 seems to be the max most people can get with good air cooling.

[EmAn]

:burn:your seriously buring some nice clocks there

your temps seem great for air...

try upping you nb and ram a little but have your tried 3.9 ghz?

if so... is it stable?

[GTengineer]

anything below 1.7v should br fine, especially if its an e6600. temps seem pretty low for air, my max load is 56c - thats not that bad.

LOL ok..... hope you like spending money on CPUs. You say you are a "noobie" yet you seem to have all the answers... good luck

BTW that 56C temperature reading is useless since you are not really pushing your computer with Orthos.

[dylskee]

Your temps @3.8GHz on air are lower than my temps @ stock with water!!! What are you running for a fan on that cooler, a 220CFM Delta or something? My 6600 idles @ 29°~32°c @2.4GHz, 36°~39°c @3.2GHz. :(

[G2145]

not orthos stable, then it would probably fail at video encoding=worthless overclock

[dylskee]

not orthos stable, then it would probably fail at video encoding=worthless overclock
=Worthless post:rolleyes:

[thideras]

=Worthless post:rolleyes:How is that a worthless post? He is saying that since it fails in Orthos, it is not stable...

[dylskee]

How is that a worthless post? He is saying that since it fails in Orthos, it is not stable...

This thing is useless in orthos(about 5min and halts), but games and other apps are running ****ing well for over 3-5hours or more without crashing, so im not bothered with orthors.
He has already indicated he didn't care about orthos failing, as long as his games played well. I think it's a pretty damn good overclock for air cooling! It sounded like a thread crap to me, that's all.

[thideras]

He has already indicated he didn't care about orthos failing, as long as his games played well. I think it's a pretty damn good overclock for air cooling! It sounded like a thread crap to me, that's all.He could have worded it better but he still has a very good point. The processor is obviously not completely stable...(or mem).

[nd4spdbh2]

wow back it down... look at the clock you have already 1400mhz over stock .... thats CRAZY!

theres absolutly NO need for anything more than 3ghz for your setup at all... unless you wanna fry your chip / board.

I mean i have a 4ghz c2d but theres no way in hell i would everythink about running 3.8-4ghz 24/7 on air... thats just redicolous.

some people i just wonder..

[pak]

Hello everyone, currently clocked at 3.8ghz(e66). - Its completely stable for any application i use, but when I oc it to 4ghz sometimes i get blue screens and reboots(after10-30mins).
My question is: Can I get it completely stable at 4ghz or above?

All input is appreciated.

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/8319/ocshowoffcs1.th.png (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ocshowoffcs1.png)

To answer your question, it looks like you will need to upgrade your cooling system.

--pak

[killermiller]

I think more people should tell him not to fry his chip instead of helping him get it stable.

What frequency is your ram and what are the timings?

Are you any less stable if you reduce the voltage any?

Are you running small FTT, large FTT, or blended?

[nd4spdbh2]

I think more people should tell him not to fry his chip instead of helping him get it stable.

What frequency is your ram and what are the timings?

Are you any less stable if you reduce the voltage any?

Are you running small FTT, large FTT, or blended?


my thoughts exactly... as i have stated i wonder how [stupid] some people are.

[ufoidentifier]

sorry, but **** you who ever calls me stupid here i dont give a **** if it fries scince theyr so schep now. All I asked for is to advice me how to increase this oc...
I got **** ram 800mhz ocz plat. so I though if i swap it for 1000mhz kit will it help with upping frequency? because when ocied to 3.9-4ghz ram overclocks to around 870-900mhz, inst that abit much for it.

2 other post: If I lower vcore to 1.55v @3.8 it fails within 1-2hours gaming, video encoding, etc. timings: 5-6-615 - didint mess much with them.

edit: As I said dont care abot otthos since gfx apps run fine so... and thats all i need it for + surf web :)

[nd4spdbh2]

sorry, but **** you who ever calls me stupid here i dont give a **** if it fries scince theyr so schep now. All I asked for is to advice me how to increase this oc...
I got **** ram 800mhz ocz plat. so I though if i swap it for 1000mhz kit will it help with upping frequency? because when ocied to 3.9-4ghz ram overclocks to around 870-900mhz, inst that abit much for it.

2 other post: If I lower vcore to 1.55v @3.8 it fails within 1-2hours gaming, video encoding, etc. timings: 5-6-615 - didint mess much with them.

edit: As I said dont care abot otthos since gfx apps run fine so... and thats all i need it for + surf web :)


We are trying to tell you that hoping for 3.8GHZ on air 24/7 IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!... and that running at high voltages with alright aircooling, not even high end air, you are going to severely shorten the life of your chip. It is NEVER going to be stable with air and the clocks you desire... I just dont understand why the hell you dont listen.

IMO there is absolutely NO need for anything above 3.4ghz on your chip for your system... as anything above that will yield non noticeable results... But go ahead drop 220 bucks every coupla months when you fry your E6600... i wish i was stupid enough to come upon the free money you must have.

its people like you that expect WAY to much of an OC and fry stuff that gives overclocking a "bad" name to normal people.

[White_Pawn]

hmmm. 4ghz huh?

First let me ask you a question: What games are you playing? If you play supreme commander or any dual core utilizing game, then i'd say your cpu is mostly stable.

secound: if orthos fails in 5 minutes, then you (prolly) don't have enough power draw to supply both your cpus when under 100% load. Obviously, the only way to fix this problem is to either A: add more voltage. or B take down the clocks. (since you don't care, i'd choose A)

After you add more voltage, it should be orthos stable. It may not be, in that case, your cpu has hit its max oc. If you fixed the problem by adding more voltage, then you may continue to seek your glory at 4ghz.

You may eventually reach 4ghz, but i'm sure, it will be at the risk of say 1.7v(ish)or so.

Btw. If it were me, i wouldn't hit 4ghz, but hell. If you got lots of money. I envy you.

For your ram, you may also concider loosening the timings, because you will need them to run at a faster frequency. You may also wish to add slightly more voltage to your ram. They may also be another factor in holding you back.

[dylskee]

Or you could do what I do, find the highest clock you can run cpu-z and get a validated screen shot then clock it back to where it's stable at a much more realistic voltage. :D

[nd4spdbh2]

Or you could do what I do, find the highest clock you can run cpu-z and get a validated screen shot then clock it back to where it's stable at a much more realistic voltage. :D

exactly... i have done 4ghz on my e6600 in the dead of winter when my parents wernt home... i had ALL the windows open in the house and got up round 3 in the morning (one of thoes southen california freekshow times when it was so cold that whole crops froze) n e ways ambient temps were probably close to freezing.. needless to say i booted at 4ghz with 1.65v in bios 1.6 actual ran super pi 1m a coupla times, took some screenies then shut her down shut all the windows and turned on the heater and went to bed. Woke up at about 8 that saturday morning. booted at my usual 3.0ghz and 1.225v (25% oc and 10% undervolt... who woulda thought) and uploaded all my results. but in no way shape or form will i EVER look for a stable 24/7 clock higer than 3.6ghz... more like 3.4ghz

[dylskee]

LOL!! I'll give that a try this winter here in good ol New England, I'll wait for a -20 degree day and setup the rig in the driveway!! My neighbors already think i'm nuts. :D

[TheCheat]

If I lower vcore to 1.55v @3.8 it fails within 1-2hours gaming, video encoding, etc. timings: 5-6-615 - didint mess much with them.

Im just saying that you'll if you keep your volts at 1.55 or higher your chips life will be less than stellar.

You've mentioned that you dont care as the chips are cheap. I'll just point out that not all chips are going to OC the same. Your next might top out at 3.4ghz. If your chip is reaching 3.8 with 1.65 volts, maybe try 1.625, or even 1.6--

Another possibility is that since you dont mind buying new chips, maybe take the time to upgrade your cooling so you can run 1.65 volts constantly. There are many good tutorials on the basics of watercooling and phasechange cooling on this forum.

I would highly recommend taking the time to make your computer orthos stable. It'll save you the headaches of dealing with other problems later, and believe me-- reinstalling everything over and over again every few months gets old.

[nd4spdbh2]

LOL!! I'll give that a try this winter here in good ol New England, I'll wait for a -20 degree day and setup the rig in the driveway!! My neighbors already think i'm nuts. :D


he he if this years winter is like last years here ima take my rig ouside.... get some extensions for power vga, mouse, and kb... and put my comp outside my garage, and me inside with the garage door shut and the garage heater on. he he. i would be striving for somwhere in the neighborhood of oh 4.2ghz... dunno if my P5W dh can do the necessary 466FSB for that tho. Id just be ocing to get 1st place in the steampowered.com forums of a C2D oc... currently im 2nd @ 4.01ghz and the 1st place is 4.09ghz. ugg.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448202

[killermiller]

sorry, but **** you who ever calls me stupid here i dont give a **** if it fries scince theyr so schep now. All I asked for is to advice me how to increase this oc...
I got **** ram 800mhz ocz plat. so I though if i swap it for 1000mhz kit will it help with upping frequency? because when ocied to 3.9-4ghz ram overclocks to around 870-900mhz, inst that abit much for it.

2 other post: If I lower vcore to 1.55v @3.8 it fails within 1-2hours gaming, video encoding, etc. timings: 5-6-615 - didint mess much with them.

edit: As I said dont care abot otthos since gfx apps run fine so... and thats all i need it for + surf web :)

Seems to be that the consensus is that instead of wasting money on another chip, spend the money and upgrade your cooling setup, which you can always reuse.

There won't be anyway to tell if GFX apps are really stable until you work on something for 3+ hours and crash. Then all you know is that is isn't.

Now that I think about it, you shouldn't need that much vcore yet anyway. I am leaning toward that ram holding you back.

[ufoidentifier]

Thx Ill get new ram