Tualitin?

[Crazy Jayhawk]

I keep hearing this term, but I'm a little confused about it.

What makes Tualitin CPU's different?

[BigRed]

.13 micron die shrink
different voltage system
Tualitan celerons have more cache and its faster, the celeron 1.2ghz is just a p3, because it has the same cache as a p3.
and the p3 tutalitans have 512kb of cache, but they are considered server chips, just a way to push the price of them up $400, lol.

the tualitans require a new motherboard to run because of the different voltages. but they overclock really really good :burn:

[ol' man]

Originally posted by BigRed
.13 micron die shrink
different voltage system
Tualitan celerons have more cache and its faster, the celeron 1.2ghz is just a p3, because it has the same cache as a p3.
and the p3 tutalitans have 512kb of cache, but they are considered server chips, just a way to push the price of them up $400, lol.

the tualitans require a new motherboard to run because of the different voltages. but they overclock really really good :burn:

Not all PIII tualatins have 512k cache. My 1.2 PIII has 256k.

[D2DM]

PIII = 133mhz fsb chip with 256KB L2. (Tualatin Celly has a 100mhz fsb and also 256k L2)

PIII-S = PIII with 512KB L2

and possibly the stepping differs from celeron T.
tA0.. for celly. tA1 for P3.

[CrystalMethod]

Originally posted by BigRed
.13 micron die shrink
different voltage system
Tualitan celerons have more cache and its faster, the celeron 1.2ghz is just a p3, because it has the same cache as a p3.
and the p3 tutalitans have 512kb of cache, but they are considered server chips, just a way to push the price of them up $400, lol.

the tualitans require a new motherboard to run because of the different voltages. but they overclock really really good :burn:

The Celerons still only have the 4 way associative L2 cache instead of the 8 way that the PIII's have.

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by CrystalMethod


The Celerons still only have the 4 way associative L2 cache instead of the 8 way that the PIII's have.
nope, they have the eight way, the only advantage a PIII gives you is a faster bus speed....

[Pinky]

Originally posted by CrystalMethod


The Celerons still only have the 4 way associative L2 cache instead of the 8 way that the PIII's have.

Just for sake of validating Funnyperson's claim...

[CrystalMethod]

Thanks Guys, now remind me to slap my friend upside the head who told me they only had the 4 way, and convinced me not to buy one...

[ol' man]

Originally posted by CrystalMethod
Thanks Guys, now remind me to slap my friend upside the head who told me they only had the 4 way, and convinced me not to buy one...

Hey dude don't forget to slap yer friends:D These celeries are nice equipment.

[muddocktor]

Plus, it clearly states about the 8 way associative L2 cache in the Celery 1.2 pdf document that I d/l'ed from Intel. I was trying to decide if I wanted a Celery 1.2, a P3 1.2 256, or the P3 1.26 512 tualatin proc for my Christmas present. The server chip won!:D

EDIT: Here is a cut & paste from the document:
The processor includes an integrated on-die, 256KB 8-way set associative level-two (L2) cache.
The L2 cache implements the Advanced Transfer Cache Architecture with a 256-bit wide bus.

[6502kid]

Excellent choice dude !

My P3-s chip beats up the P4 1.6 on most of Sandras
benchmarks, BEFORE I overclock it any !

What motherboard are you going to put it in ?
I like my Soyo TISU a lot, but I am probably going
to grab one of those Gigabyte GA-60XET-C boards
for my own xmas present. (Waiting for intel to start
selling it....)



:rolleyes: :beer:

[muddocktor]

Originally posted by 6502kid
Excellent choice dude !

My P3-s chip beats up the P4 1.6 on most of Sandras
benchmarks, BEFORE I overclock it any !

What motherboard are you going to put it in ?
I like my Soyo TISU a lot, but I am probably going
to grab one of those Gigabyte GA-60XET-C boards
for my own xmas present. (Waiting for intel to start
selling it....)



:rolleyes: :beer:

I'm going to use the GA-60XET board and I already have the f9c bios to flash it to. Also, I'm going to watercool it with a 120 watt pelt, so I expect that I should be able to get a real good overclock out of it. The only bad thing is I have to wait until Christmas to start setting everything up. I have received everything to do the system except my dangerden order, and that is in transit right now.:beer:

[Lancelot]

Indeed it's 8-way set associative, but still has a latency of '2' compared to '0' for a PIII...

[Flu!d]

Ummm....The tualatin Celeron actually has a latency of '1' and not '2' and I haven't found it to harm peformance at all....In fact it probably helps overclocking, that's why the Celeron stands a better chance of hitting 1.6 gig where as the Tualatin server chips don't like hitting 1.6 gig as easily....

[Yodums]

And do not forget the performance of these things when oced matches up to the XP and at default it beats any coppermine P3 or Celeron.