is this good for my first homemade comp?

[deadhead]

hey, im going to make my first computer soon and i would like some of your advice, so far what im looking at is:
(I already have a addtronics mobo w/ ddr)

800 mhz AMD duron (not sure what heatsink, please suggest)
128 crucial ddr 2100
ENLIGHT EN-72370X3C4 MEDIUM ATX TOWER CASE with 1 Internal CaseFan and 300w ps
WESTERN DIGITAL 20GB WD200BB CAVIAR - OEM 7200rpm
AOPEN CD-956 56x CDROM - RETAIL
Thermaltake Active Memory Cooling Kits
should i get a 32mb TNT or a GeForce2( is the performance difference that much?)

thanks for your help, peace

[VashTheStampede]

Originally posted by deadhead
hey, im going to make my first computer soon and i would like some of your advice, so far what im looking at is:
(I already have a addtronics mobo w/ ddr)

800 mhz AMD duron (not sure what heatsink, please suggest)
128 crucial ddr 2100
ENLIGHT EN-72370X3C4 MEDIUM ATX TOWER CASE with 1 Internal CaseFan and 300w ps
WESTERN DIGITAL 20GB WD200BB CAVIAR - OEM 7200rpm
AOPEN CD-956 56x CDROM - RETAIL
Thermaltake Active Memory Cooling Kits
should i get a 32mb TNT or a GeForce2( is the performance difference that much?)

thanks for your help, peace

Can't go wrong with a Thermalright SK-6 heatsink, especially for Duron.

The memory is ok, I would suggest 256 or 512 if you can afford it.

Enlight case, I hate them. My dad has one as his primary workstation, the case is a POS, both in design and cooling. I would suggest an Antec/Chieftec or Enermax or Inwin case.

The 300W PSU is fine for that Duron

The HDD is fine.

Thermaltake.. Thermalfake really. They are unnecessary, if they are the ones that go on your vid card, not worth it, stock sinks still perform about the same. If they are RAMsinks for your DDR system memory, again uneeded. DDR system memory does not get hot enough to require heatsinks.

GeForce 2, yes the performance is that much better.

~Vash~

[deadhead]

where would i get one of those cases for a good price?

[VashTheStampede]

www.directron.com

They are pretty good on the prices.

www.newegg.com

www.surplusauction.com

www.egghead.com (If either are still open anymore)

~Vash~

[deadhead]

thanks dude

[FunkyTechnician]

I would suggest you get a 256MB RAM, it's not that much more expensive and worth it imo.

As far as the video card, it depends if you play and 3d games or not.

A²

[RangerJoe]

i have that enlight case you mentioned and it works great for my system....and you say is has bad cooling...look at my specs down there...they are pretty good. yes get at least 256 of ram.....and its not much more to just get the 64mb geforce 2 pro, since the pro is much better than the gts. its like $20 more but if you dont plan on doing any incredibly graphics-demanding games then the 32mb gts would be find

[deadhead]

ok, i've got two different opinions on the case
which is ok for me?
antec, or enlight?
please post opinion

[deadhead]

how's this?



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EVERCASE E4252W005, Intel P4/AMD, 10-Bay, Truely Screwless ATX MID Tower Case. BEIGE. No Power Supply. External: 4 X 5.25 and 2 X 3.50. Hidden: 4 X 3..50 (2 screwless removeable HD Cages). 2 x Front USB ports. 1 x side ball bearing fan with bracket. Special: Buy it with an AMD processor and Save $5 N82E16811127001 $22.00 $22.00
SUNON 80x80x25mm Case Fan, Ballbearing, DC 12V, 2.0W, 2900 RPM, 39.0 CFM, 4-pin. MODEL: KD1208PTB2 (2).H N82E16811999001 $5.00 $5.00
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AMD Duron 800MHz Socket A PGA Processor-OEM Version N82E16819104117 $36.00 $36.00
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Hard Disk / CD/DVD/CDRW Drive Cooler, for 5.25 bay. 3 fans. Extend the life time of Hard Drive, Enhance the Hard Drive in an Optimal Cooling environment, TRIPLE 40x40x20mm Cooling Fan design takes more heat away from drive bay area. Cools 2 or 3 drives at the same time.Hard drive mounting kit & filter screen included. Retail. N82E16835888104 $8.00 $8.00


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[Sir-Epix]

Originally posted by deadhead
hey, im going to make my first computer soon and i would like some of your advice, so far what im looking at is:
(I already have a addtronics mobo w/ ddr)

800 mhz AMD duron (not sure what heatsink, please suggest)
128 crucial ddr 2100
ENLIGHT EN-72370X3C4 MEDIUM ATX TOWER CASE with 1 Internal CaseFan and 300w ps
WESTERN DIGITAL 20GB WD200BB CAVIAR - OEM 7200rpm
AOPEN CD-956 56x CDROM - RETAIL
Thermaltake Active Memory Cooling Kits
should i get a 32mb TNT or a GeForce2( is the performance difference that much?)

thanks for your help, peace

It is good for your first computer, and if you are going to overclock it for the first time you made a wise decision. Why? Because the Durons are relativaly cheap, so if you fry it you won't feel so bad. You only learn through breaking stuff :)

[Yodums]

Originally posted by deadhead
hey, im going to make my first computer soon and i would like some of your advice, so far what im looking at is:
(I already have a addtronics mobo w/ ddr)

800 mhz AMD duron (not sure what heatsink, please suggest)
128 crucial ddr 2100
ENLIGHT EN-72370X3C4 MEDIUM ATX TOWER CASE with 1 Internal CaseFan and 300w ps
WESTERN DIGITAL 20GB WD200BB CAVIAR - OEM 7200rpm
AOPEN CD-956 56x CDROM - RETAIL
Thermaltake Active Memory Cooling Kits
should i get a 32mb TNT or a GeForce2( is the performance difference that much?)

thanks for your help, peace

How about a 900 or 950 instead? The prices of those Duron are falling and the difference between 800-950 are little.

128mb right now is too small and not enough to utilize whats being put on the market so I would recommend a 256 minimum.

You should get a full tower(could even be generic doesn't need to be branded) instead and the case flow is not looking good... 1 Internal case fan is not good.. I'd recommend 3-5 because you need at least 300cfm of air flow in that case so you'll need to mod alot if your going to overclock.

WD - 20gig its ok but I find lots of users have problems overclocking with WD but it should do just fine.

ThermalTake Cooling Kit: No need for that

Video card: It'll vary on what you do if you are a light gamer and stay on the desktop 3/4 of the time and game 1/4 then the Radeon 32DDR will do good if you spend lots of time on gaming and you want a card that'll last Radeon 7500..
if you dont gave than the TNT2 is good.

I'm not farmiliar with your mobo and its attributes towards overclocking so I wouldn't know what kind of heatsink to recommend but SK6 Would be a good one or a Glaciator II.

[Arkaine23]

I have the evercase mentioned above... used it for my girlfriend's budget computer. Very good case. You can put the HDD down low right in front of the front intake fan. CPU ok. I used a T-bird 1000MHz in my 1st home-built. Quality Heat sink will be at least $25 (using a Volcano 7). Get 256 MB Ram, crucial is very good. Go for the Geforce2 Mx 400 64 MB if you're gonna do a lot of 3d gaming. I think that's pretty much the standard now.

[Arkaine23]

errors in my signature. here's the correct info

[deadhead]

is this good?

ENLIGHT EN-72370X3C4 MEDIUM ATX TOWER CASE with 1 Internal CaseFan - OEM Recommended by AMD and INTEL Pentium 4 Ready with 300Watts Power Supply, 4 5.25" Bays, 2 3.5" Bays & 1 Hidden 3.5" Bay

2x SUNON 80x80x25mm Case Fan, Ballbearing, DC 12V, 2.0W, 2900 RPM, 39.0 CFM, 4-pin. MODEL: KD1208PTB2 (2).H

ABIT SILURO MX400 NVIDIA GEFORCE2 MX400 64MB SDRAM - RETAIL 256-bit Hi Performance 2D and 3D accelerator engine equipped AGP 2X /4X Support, AGP texturing, Integrated 350MHz RAMDAC, resolution up to 2048 x 1536 @75Hz, 200MHz core clock, 400 million pixels/sec, 800 million texel/sec fill rate, 2.7GB/sec memory bandwidth.

AMD DURON 900MHz 200MHZ FSB SOCKET A PGA PROCESSOR -OEM 192K of total on-chip cache

CRUCIAL MICRON 256MB 32x64 PC 2100 DDR RAM - OEM 184-Pin, CL=2.5-Unbuffered 2.5V CT3264Z265.16T. Requires DDR supported Motherboard - Lifetime Warranty. OEM

WESTERN DIGITAL EIDE HARD DRIVE 40GB 7200RPM MODEL # WD400BB - OEM, DRIVE ONLY Caviar 3.5 inch Form 8.9ms Seek Time 2mb Cache Buffer - 3 Year Manufacturer Warranty - 40.0 gb 7200 rpm

AOPEN CD-956 56x CDROM - RETAIL Internal EIDE, with User Manual and Audio Cable

Thermaltake VOLCANO 7 Variable Fan Speed Control

Enermax's Whispersys System Exhaust Blower(Slot Fan), Cooling fan, Brushless fan, 12V, 4-Pin, 0.18A. Rear mount. Takes heat away from PCI slot area where other system fans don't do.

[jw50]

Deadhead, are you sure you have an addtronics motherboard? I can find addtronics cases but not motherboards. What motherboard you have may influence the recommendations for your system.

[deadhead]

no i ment amptron or amptronics or something

[Warlord2]

You only learn through breaking stuff


Ive broke 3 mobos and I still havent learned how I did it:eek:

whats realy funny is I havent even cracked my cpu and Ive taken off the heatsink/waterblock atleast 50+ times now:rolleyes:

[deadhead]

hey, i ordered my comp finally here are the specs

[Arkaine23]

Looks great! Hope you get it up and working, and OC'd soon!

Quick recommendations:

Get MBM5 & Sisfot Sandra for good benchmarking. That way you can test your system stability and compare benchmark scores with ppl in these forums.

1st upgrade should be another 128MB ram.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by deadhead
hey, i ordered my comp finally here are the specs

Please don't tell me your signature is your new rig!

Because Amptron are bad overclocking boards that doesn't even have FSB optiions I believe and it's not good for utilizin the whole chip so its going to feel your on a 600-650mhz.

[deadhead]

hey, with the bios in it i can alter the voltage settings and stuff, plus i got a good deal for it, and after a while ill change to an asus or something

[Mick]

Hey,if your pc keeps you smiling,it's a good choice