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fordsierra4x4
06-25-07, 05:23 PM
After the joke that was the 7.5's, with things like no support for the Radeon x1950 Pro or the 1440x900 resolution on LCD FP's - how have people fared with the new 7.6's that were released not long ago?

I'm going to install them in a minute and i'll be letting you know of any performance increases...

deathman20
06-25-07, 09:30 PM
Sweet 7.6's :) Gotta try these out.

deathman20
06-25-07, 10:09 PM
And dang no big changes in preformance at least on my 2900XT with Vista drivers. Oh well.

vixro
06-25-07, 10:24 PM
Links:

Vista 64bit- http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista64/common-vista64.html
Vista 32bit- http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista32/common-vista32.html
XP 64bit- http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp64/radeonx-xp64.html
XP 32bit- http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeonx-xp.html
XP MCE- http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/mce/radeonx-mce.html
Other- http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html


Notable changes:


Performance Improvements


Half-Life 2: Episode 1 and Dark Messiah Might and Magic performance improves on the ATI Radeon™ HD2900 XT Crossfire configurations. Improvements of 16% or more can be seen with HDR enabled.


Resolved Issues for the Windows Vista Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows Vista. These include:


Installing the display driver under the Windows Vista operating system no longer results in the display resolutions of 1680x1050, 1800x1440, 1920x1080 and 1920x1200 not being available when using an analog CRT display device. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27464
IL2 Sturmovik->Forgotten Battles: Setting the in-game hardware options to custom and landscape detail to perfect no longer results in the water textures appearing corrupt when playing the game under the Windows Vista operating system. Further details can be found in topic number 737-26687
Quake 4: Playing the game with CrossFire enabled no longer result in corruption being noticed after a short time of game play. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28172
The Overdrive™ clocks no longer fails to revert back to the default settings and the Apply and Discard buttons no longer become enabled when changing the clock settings for both the primary and secondary display devices. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27619
Playing a DVD using either WinDVD or PowerDVD no longer results in corruption being noticed if the players is rotated to any position other than landscape. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27463
Connecting a secondary display device and enabling extended desktop mode no longer results in changes being made to the secondary display device being reflected on the primary display device. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27460
Setting UMA to 512MB and enabling AERO no longer results in screen corruption being noticed when booting up Windows Vista on systems containing an ATI Radeon X1200/1250 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28173
Enabling DXVA no longer results in a slow response time being noticed when playing a DVD on a system running Windows Vista and containing an ATI Radeon Xpress 1200/1250 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28175
An error message is no longer reported when attempting to enable CrossFire on a system containing the Intel Gen2 chipset. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28177
Playing an HD DVD and attempting to do a random seek or change to a different chapter of the movie no longer results in corruption being noticed. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28179


Resolved Issues for the Windows XP Operating System

This section provides information on resolved issues in this release of the ATI Catalyst™ Software Suite for Windows XP. These include:


Armed Assault: A handle count leak is no longer noticed during game play in Task Manager. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27467
The system no longer become unresponsive and require a reboot while randomly moving Video Player window from primary to extended desktop under certain hardware configurations where the second adapter is an ATI Radeon X1200/1250/1270 series of product. Further details can be found in topic number 737-27092.
Connecting a secondary display device followed by enabling extended desktop mode no longer results in a VPU Recover occurring when playing a DVD on the secondary display device using WinDVD. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28184
The PAL-M and NTSC-J are no longer missing from TV-format list found in the ATI Catalyst Control Center. Further details can be found in topic number 737-28185



My 3dmark06 score was within ~10 points of my previous score.

Out of curiosity I overclocked on overdrive to 803mhz/900mhz but my score on 06 only increased to 11251 and I had some minor artifacting in the water on the canyon flight test.

fordsierra4x4
06-26-07, 03:24 AM
Well, i just installed them....and they seem to work....which is nice.

No attempts at gaming thus far, but i'll give it a go this afternoon...

Brando
06-26-07, 03:26 AM
Curious whether fps improved in those particular games where performance was disproportionally awful. I think F.E.A.R. was one but not positive.

fordsierra4x4
06-26-07, 03:27 AM
Oh - one question, how do you enable Overdrive? Shouldnt it be in the driver settings by default?

deathman20
06-26-07, 07:26 AM
Well I should rephrase my results, 2FPS better in COH with DX10, CoJ got a 1.5ish FPS increase. HL2 still has the fog :( Umm yup about it so far.

TTP
06-26-07, 11:49 AM
After the joke that was the 7.5's, with things like no support for the Radeon x1950 Pro or the 1440x900 resolution on LCD FP's - how have people fared with the new 7.6's that were released not long ago?

I'm going to install them in a minute and i'll be letting you know of any performance increases...

I had no problems with my x1950pro and Cat7.5. :shrug:

fordsierra4x4
06-26-07, 01:38 PM
Cat 7.5's never worked. They'd install, but they'd go to a black screen upon booting, then restart. Loads of people had problems with them on the 1950pro's, and even more had problems with it came to the 1440x900 resolution.

vixro
06-26-07, 03:36 PM
Oh - one question, how do you enable Overdrive? Shouldnt it be in the driver settings by default?

Overdrive is in the CCC when you have 8pin and 6pin connectors. When I say I enabled it, I mean I pressed the "unlock" key because I hadn't messed with it up till this point.

Well I should rephrase my results, 2FPS better in COH with DX10, CoJ got a 1.5ish FPS increase. HL2 still has the fog :( Umm yup about it so far.

The fog went away in CSS for me about 2 weeks ago when Steam released an update for the game. I haven't tried HL2, but they are run off of the same engine....

fordsierra4x4
06-26-07, 03:38 PM
Er, dunno if you've noticed my sig, but i have an x1950 Pro - so only one 6-pin connector on the board :p

deathman20
06-26-07, 04:39 PM
The fog went away in CSS for me about 2 weeks ago when Steam released an update for the game. I haven't tried HL2, but they are run off of the same engine....

Well Lost Coast my test I guess you can say it still had it in there maybe I should try the actual game.

Neuromancer
06-26-07, 05:00 PM
Er, dunno if you've noticed my sig, but i have an x1950 Pro - so only one 6-pin connector on the board :p


Dunno if its all PROs or just the ASUS but a guick google reveals lots of people just using ATItool or ati Tray tools for clocking.

EDIT: Because overdrive isnt included

Tebore
06-27-07, 11:03 AM
Why isn't the usual Mobility Cat link working? I keep getting a 404 Error. The Navi bar shows it's there.

Jmonty
06-27-07, 02:57 PM
when i plugged the 8 and 6 pin connectors in my computer wouldn't boot.. :confused: it would only start with the 2 six pins in.

also, when i checked my driver after installing 7.6 it said the driver date was june 13 (when the release date on amd's website said june 25th.. ) and it was version 8.383.0.0 . did it install correctly?

one more problem, my catylst control center doesn't start. is it safe to uninstall and reinstall that??

thanks guys..

TTP
06-28-07, 10:12 AM
The PCIe 8pin and 6pin's are required power source for the card. If your PC don't boot then it's likely you've got a problem with your power supply.

ViperJohn
06-30-07, 01:55 AM
when i plugged the 8 and 6 pin connectors in my computer wouldn't boot.. :confused: it would only start with the 2 six pins in.

also, when i checked my driver after installing 7.6 it said the driver date was june 13 (when the release date on amd's website said june 25th.. ) and it was version 8.383.0.0 . did it install correctly?

one more problem, my catylst control center doesn't start. is it safe to uninstall and reinstall that??

thanks guys..

You tried to use a motherboard 8 pin connector. PCIe 8 pin connectors use different wiring than mother
board 8 pins. A motherboard 8 pin is keyed so it will not fit into a PCIe 8 pin socket but the keying in so
similar it can be forced in with only slightly more effort than the correct connector.

VIper

fordsierra4x4
06-30-07, 07:40 AM
Well, i discovered a problem....

I cant have a tooltip on screen at the same time as playing video else it slows to about 12fps. Same goes for MSN messenger - if its on screen, again, slows to about 12fps again...

TTP
06-30-07, 09:55 AM
You tried to use a motherboard 8 pin connector. PCIe 8 pin connectors use different wiring than mother
board 8 pins. A motherboard 8 pin is keyed so it will not fit into a PCIe 8 pin socket but the keying in so
similar it can be forced in with only slightly more effort than the correct connector.

VIper

I don't think you can use the motherboard power 8pin connector on the HD2900XT 8pin connector because the form factor of the pins are not the same.

ViperJohn
06-30-07, 10:58 AM
I don't think you can use the motherboard power 8pin connector on the HD2900XT 8pin connector because the form factor of the pins are not the same.

The male/female contacts themselves are identical. The PCIe 8 pin has the negative wiring on the
latch side while the MB 8 pin has the positive wiring on the latch side. There is a small difference
in the housing keying to prevent interchange of the two but that difference is small and a male MB
connector can be inserted into a PCIe female (and vice/versa) without much extra effort.

Viper

tvdang7
06-30-07, 11:12 AM
help i cant open my catalyst control panel. i installed .net 2 and i get a cli error when i open control panel any help? x1800xt here

ViperJohn
06-30-07, 11:45 AM
help i cant open my catalyst control panel. i installed .net 2 and i get a cli error when i open control panel any help? x1800xt here

God the CCC sucks. It would be so nice if ATI would go back to the old Control Panel (reworked with more
settings) that worked instead of the pork barrel CCC that requires NetScrewUp to function...and poorly at that.

Viper

Jmonty
06-30-07, 04:20 PM
You tried to use a motherboard 8 pin connector. PCIe 8 pin connectors use different wiring than mother
board 8 pins. A motherboard 8 pin is keyed so it will not fit into a PCIe 8 pin socket but the keying in so
similar it can be forced in with only slightly more effort than the correct connector.

VIper

thanks man! i'll look and see if there is another 8pin on my powersupply. do you all know if using the 2 6 pins affect performence much?

ViperJohn
06-30-07, 04:34 PM
thanks man! i'll look and see if there is another 8pin on my powersupply. do you all know if using the 2 6 pins affect performence much?

It won't effect a 2900XT 512Mb at all. With two six pin connectors inserted you will not be able to OC in
the CCC but even with a 6 pin and an 8 pin the OC panel won't come up for a 2900XT in WinXP (at least
it hasn't for me anyway). Just use the AMD tool or better still RivaTuner 2.02 which will pop out in the
next few days to OC the card.

Viper

Nebulous
06-30-07, 08:27 PM
Ok, wtf is Vimicro? I just got an X1900XTX and upon installing the 7.6 cats I keep getting an error with vimicro.:-/

>HyperlogiK<
07-01-07, 01:42 AM
God the CCC sucks. It would be so nice if ATI would go back to the old Control Panel (reworked with more
settings) that worked instead of the pork barrel CCC that requires NetScrewUp to function...and poorly at that.

Viper

I agree, but aren't driver control panels like this being pushed by M$ now?

ViperJohn
07-01-07, 02:13 AM
I agree, but aren't driver control panels like this being pushed by M$ now?

I honestly do not know but it wouldn't surprise me if true. I think the real reason was ATI just wanted a new
look and feel for the Control Panel, no matter how bad it was compared to the old CP, and came up with the
garbage CCC. When ATI did that NV just followed suit and gave theirs a new look too but at least NV's doesn't
need NetScrewUp to function.

It is sad that everyone to going crazy with user interfaces anymore. Just look at mouse drivers and their CP's.
Logitech's mouse driver and CP used to take up about 3meg of HD space and even less memory. Now they
are up to 60Meg of HD space and almost that much memory just for a damn mouse!

Viper

vixro
07-01-07, 02:15 PM
I don't have a problem with CCC anymore. It has all the options I look for (other than fan speed, wish that was more controllable for advanced users other than using bios hacks or other software) and loads fast now.

ViperJohn
07-01-07, 02:30 PM
I don't have a problem with CCC anymore. It has all the options I look for (other than fan speed, wish that was more controllable for advanced users other than using bios hacks or other software) and loads fast now.

I had to kill the CCC (remove the run commands from the XP registry so the CCC wouldn't auto start
and then use the Task Manager to shut it down and remove from memory after I did use it to make
changes) to get through benchmark tests with the 2900's. It caused all kinds of weird errors with the
benchmarks in WinXP (usually the benchmark loosing focus) when the CCC was running in the back
ground. Shutting the CCC down cured that instantly.

Viper