g0 stepping and BIOS update??

[GTengineer]

What the heck is this I am hearing about motherboards requiring a BIOS update to run the new Q6600 with g0 stepping? :rolleyes: Has anyone heard this or is this FUBAR?

[||Console||]

That doesnt sound right to me @ all ...

[dudleycpa]

Nope, nada, zilch.

There is a "mirco code" patch that is out for the newer C2D. I'll assume (you being a smart person) you already saw that thread.

[GTengineer]

Thank you, thats what I thought ..... I need to stop taking "other" forums seriously :rolleyes:

[dudleycpa]

Serves you right for not staying here (j/k).

Now that I think about it...shouldn't the E6X50 reviews come out soon? (Like the next week or so?)

[GTengineer]

Dunno about official reviews but this waiting for g0 is driving me nuts especially when I can already afford the Quad ...

[benbaked]

I wonder if Fry's will have G0 stepping quads when they do their cheap q6600/ecs combos soon? Hopefully they'll be G0s for all of us lucky people with a Fry's nearby. ;)

Hopefully those ECS boards won't require a BIOS update to use the bundled processor. :D

[GTengineer]

I wonder if Fry's will have G0 stepping quads when they do their cheap q6600/ecs combos soon? Hopefully they'll be G0s for all of us lucky people with a Fry's nearby. ;)

Hopefully those ECS boards won't require a BIOS update to use the bundled processor. :D

According to this they should start becoming available mid July but there is going to be some span of time where you cannot be very sure whether you are getting a g0 or B3 unless you buy from a vendor that is cherry picking them. But I am hoping that by early August the B3 supplies will be finished especially considering the huge demand that there will be after July 22nd and Fry's will have them.

BTW the Fry's sales guy seemed really puzzled by my interest on the SLACR code on the box when I went to find out if by 1 in a billion they actually had one lol

[batboy]

Some motherboards might need a BIOS update for the quad cores (maybe that's what they meant), but you wouldn't need an update just for a new stepping.

[Stratcat]

I wonder if Fry's will have G0 stepping quads when they do their cheap q6600/ecs combos soon? Hopefully they'll be G0s for all of us lucky people with a Fry's nearby. ;)

Hopefully those ECS boards won't require a BIOS update to use the bundled processor. :DThey just had their 300 buck 4th of July sale near me here in Chicago:

Fry's 300 Dollar Q6600 + ECS Mobo 4th of July Sale (http://www.netaffilia.com/ad/electronics/frys/i/2007/07/04/25437.html)

No idea of the stepping...I heard about it in IRC late in the day, and was still tied up with family stuff. I would've dropped in at the store's open, and checked the steppings out, if I knew of it the day before. :(

This does lead me to believe those price drops will come very quickly, tho. And if the prices drop quickly and older product moves quickly, this probably will bode well for G-0's moving into the channels quickly, as well.

JMHO,

~ Strat ~

[Stratcat]

Thank you, thats what I thought ..... I need to stop taking "other" forums seriously :rolleyes:There's "another" forum? ;)

[Peepaw]

There's "another" forum? ;)


Wanna b's.:D

[GTengineer]

Some motherboards might need a BIOS update for the quad cores (maybe that's what they meant), but you wouldn't need an update just for a new stepping.

nah "they" were talking about in general all mobos needing BIOS just because it was a g0 stepping ...... :)

[William Hung]

I'll let you know in about umm... an hour. I've got a shiny new one sitting right here, just waiting to be installed. My old B2 stepping QX will be relegated to paperweight for the time being. :)

[GTengineer]

I'll let you know in about umm... an hour. I've got a shiny new one sitting right here, just waiting to be installed. My old B2 stepping QX will be relegated to paperweight for the time being. :)

you got a g0?!? how where?? :eek:

[William Hung]

A g0 stepping does not work with a 975XBX Intel board, nor a Gigabyte DS3...
WOn't even post. I'll look for this microcode patch and give it another shot...
This one is supposed to be the ****nit as well. QXTN...for those that know.

[Stratcat]

^^^

Quite honestly, I don't think it would hurt to upgrade to the "latest and greatest" BIOS either.

JMHO,

~ Strat ~

[batboy]

I have been known to be wrong once or twice before...

[William Hung]

Upgraded to latest BIOS on both boards. Still no POST. Fans spin, all is good, just no post. I may have to patiently wait for the production BIOS to be updated. *sigh*... Anyone else have ideas? How are the other folks running G0's?:bang head

[LutaWicasa]

The 1479 for the 975XBX?

[benbaked]

Upgraded to latest BIOS on both boards. Still no POST. Fans spin, all is good, just no post. I may have to patiently wait for the production BIOS to be updated. *sigh*... Anyone else have ideas? How are the other folks running G0's?:bang head

oh man kidsimba, i'm probably crying more then you just in anticaption to see what your G0 can do. :beer:

[atlr]

What the heck is this I am hearing about motherboards requiring a BIOS update to run the new Q6600 with g0 stepping? :rolleyes: Has anyone heard this or is this FUBAR?

Not FUD. Intel states this in this bulletin.
http://intel.pcnalert.com/content/eolpcn/PCN107463-01.pdf
A BIOS update is probably needed to recognize the new CPU ID and change dynamic fan speeds. Some motherboards refuse to boot when it doesn't recognize a CPU ID. I witnessed this with the ECS P4M800Pro MB and the E4300 in February.

[Brolloks]

Upgraded to latest BIOS on both boards. Still no POST. Fans spin, all is good, just no post. I may have to patiently wait for the production BIOS to be updated. *sigh*... Anyone else have ideas? How are the other folks running G0's?:bang head


Any luck getting a post on your G0 Quad?

[William Hung]

BIOS 1479 for the xbx, also the latest for the DS3. NO LOVE whatsoever. The fans in the system all turn normally, etc, just no post. Anyone else get one of these to run? It looks like the person on the "other" forum was using an ASUS board. (which I don't have). I suppose I can swap back to the old B2 wait for the new BIOS to be released that supports G0, but I don't want to wait!
This is the "fast" version of G0 as well. More than just a Q6600 or QX6700.

[bing]

Just look at the Intel's PCN document regarding this new Q6600 G0 stepping, imo BIOS update is mandatory, since there are other spec changes as well.

Pay attention on the release date below (in red box), if you're bios dated before this date then you should wait for an update from the mobo maker.

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Example at my older Asus P5B-Deluxe mobo with latest 1101 BIOS, these are the latest list of Intel's microcodes extracted from the BIOS.

Looks like it won't boot up with Q6600 G0 since there is no "06FB" microcode, only 06F7 for old B3 stepping.

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[GTengineer]

Well if this BIOS update really is true then this is the last time I EVER buy an ASUS board. The last official BIOS release for my board was 2/15/07 and it is clear ASUS doesn't give a damn about it. At this rate if I keep waiting for a g0 microcode the next generation of Quads will be out.

There is only an unofficial BIOS which is not even listed in their website but it doesn't list the new 06FB micro code either... :bang head

BIOS version: 0702 Date:03/28/2007



Checksum: 0000H



01. a.Added New Micro Code for the Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo processor E4300 :

L-2 stepping processor signature 000006F2 (Conroe) CPUID = 06F2H,

Patch ID = 56H, Platform ID = 01H.

b.Added New Micro Code for the Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo processor :

B-2 stepping processor signature 000006F6 (Conroe & Conroe XE)

CPUID = 06F6H, Patch ID = C6H, Platform ID = 01H.

c.Added New Micro Code for Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad processor Q6600, QX6700

B-3 stepping processor signature 000006F7

CPUID = 06F7H, Patch ID = 66H, Platform ID = 10H.

02.Don't remove GPU Ex item and modify the option as the same as before on Spectrum item.



** Micro Code Information **

ID CPUID |ID CPUID |ID CPUID |ID CPUID

-----------+-----------+-----------+---------

2C 0F25 |17 0F34 |17 0F41 |05 0F43

06 0F44 |03 0F47 |03 0F49 |04 0F4A

04 0F64 |0A 0F32 |02 0F37 |05 0F60

07 0F61 |0F 0F62 |07 0F65 |15 0661

82 06F9 |56 06F2 |66 06F7 |C6 06F6

04 0660 |33 06F5 |33 06F5 |26 06F4

[dudleycpa]

Well if this BIOS update really is true then this is the last time I EVER buy an ASUS board. The last official BIOS release for my board was 2/15/07 and it is clear ASUS doesn't give a damn about it. At this rate if I keep waiting for a g0 microcode the next generation of Quads will be out.

There is only an unofficial BIOS which is not even listed in their website but it doesn't list the new 06FB micro code... :bang head

I really hope that Asus steps up to the plate. I bought a P5K Deluxe figuring the extra $$$ spent was for Asus "stellar" support.

I'm gonna be :mad: if that isn't the case!

[GTengineer]

I really hope that Asus steps up to the plate. I bought a P5K Deluxe figuring the extra $$$ spent was for Asus "stellar" support.

I'm gonna be :mad: if that isn't the case!

Well it looks like they have been doing a much better job with the P5K Deluxe so you guys will probably be alright your last update was in June I believe... but the P5N-32E SLI PLUS is like a bast-ard child. It is arguably the best 650i board out there but they don't give a damn about it. :mad: If they dont come out with something I will have to sell this and will probably have to get a Gigabyte P35 ... :bang head :bang head :bang head

EDIT: I just realized I can say "damn" but not "bast-ard" in these forums :confused:

[bing]

Further investigation, did a few random pick of Asus latest BIOSes from two mobos which are P5K and P5B (plain, non deluxe).

Asus P5K (plain), BIOS 0603 with build date : 07/03/2007, it has two 06FB ucodes :

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Now, the on plain Asus P5B (non deluxe), BIOS 1501 build date : 06/26/2007, it has two Q6600 G0 stepping ucodes too.
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Well, looking at the latest P5B BIOS, I'm quite confident Asus will update the P5B-Deluxe BIOS too. :D

What interesting is, the Q6600 ucode was made on 2007/03/14, prolly Intel just released it to mobo makers recently. :)

[GTengineer]

bing do you know if the GA-P35-DS3R BIOS support the new g0 stepping already?

[bing]

I really hope that Asus steps up to the plate. I bought a P5K Deluxe figuring the extra $$$ spent was for Asus "stellar" support.

I'm gonna be :mad: if that isn't the case!

Dudley, latest P5K Deluxe 0404 Bios (06/15/2007), G0 is ready. :D

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[dudleycpa]

Dudley, latest P5K Deluxe 0404 Bios (06/15/2007), G0 is ready. :D

Thanks bing that is good to know.

[GTengineer]

bing can you tell me where you are looking this codes up? I would like to check my board and if that one does not have it then maybe the GA-P35-DS3R also

[bing]

bing can you tell me where you are looking this codes up? I would like to check my board and if that one does not have it then maybe the GA-P35-DS3R also

Sorry GT, I'm not familiar Gigabyte's bios, I can only view Asus/AMI .ROM bios file. :shrug:

[GTengineer]

Sorry GT, I'm not familiar Gigabyte's bios, I can only view Asus/AMI .ROM bios file. :shrug:

Would it be possible for you to look up the ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus? It is the 650i chip. Thanks man!

[w2richwood]

how would i check my p5w dh mo do you have a link thanks

[bing]

Would it be possible for you to look up the ASUS P5N32-E SLI Plus? It is the 650i chip. Thanks man!

GT, just downloaded latest P5N32-E SLI Plus bios from asus ftp, too bad it is Award, not AMI.

Really sorry, I can't do it ! :bang head


To w2richwood :

Yep, latest P5W-DH 2103 BIOS (05/18/2007) supports it ! :)
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[GTengineer]

GT, just downloaded latest P5N32-E SLI Plus bios from asus ftp, too bad it is Award, not AMI.

Really sorry, I can't do it ! :bang head


darn it, well thanks anyway

[w2richwood]

thanks bing now i dont fell like i need to sale my board. i own you beers on me :beer:

[Sorin]

I hope the P5B-Deluxe gets the right BIOS update soon. :(

[Stratcat]

Well if this BIOS update really is true then this is the last time I EVER buy an ASUS board. The last official BIOS release for my board was 2/15/07 and it is clear ASUS doesn't give a damn about it. At this rate if I keep waiting for a g0 microcode the next generation of Quads will be out.

There is only an unofficial BIOS which is not even listed in their website but it doesn't list the new 06FB micro code either... :bang headGTengineer -

I understand your situation, and yes, it's possible your nVidia chipset Intel CPU mobo is treated as the red-haired green-eyed freckle-faced stepchild. I don't know, since I don't closely follow your particular board. But my P5B-Dlx BIOS isn't G-0 ready either, and there's no way they'll pass on my board, I'm sure. I've had no new BIOS updates since 4 April 2007.

As for my personal opinion, Asus has been fantastic, AFAIC, with timely and full featured, if not darn right innovative BIOS releases for their popular Intel chipset + Intel CPU mobos. I've never had an issue with them over the last 4 years, or so, I've been running them pretty much exclusively, since the introduction of the i865/875 chipsets.

Your nVidia based board could fall thru the cracks, I will concede, and no, wether a niche product, or not, it still isn't right, nor justified. i agree. But I've been generally very impressed with the way Asus handles BIOS' in general, especially compared to their competition.

JMHO.

Good luck.

I hope you don't get burnt.

I hope Asus will continue to do the things that allow them them to keep their (heretofore) good name.

~ Strat ~

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OK -

I just looked a little closer, and noticed I was looking at the "non-Plus" version of your mobo, You're right. No updates on your mobo since adding new CPU microcode since February! How odd. The other variation (non-plus) of your board has gotten updates as recently as only several weeks ago!

You do have a legit gripe! I will stand by my general opinion that the popular Intel chipset boards are pretty well supported, tho...unless they drop the ball on my P5B-Dlx too! :mad:

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[Stratcat]

I hope the P5B-Deluxe gets the right BIOS update soon. :(You and I both.

But I find it very hard to believe this reletively recent and extremely popular board would be overlooked come release date of the G-0's.

I could be wrong...I've been before...I'm not claravoint. :shrug:

~ Strat ~

[Stratcat]

Bing -

Care to share with us the s/w you used to access the BIOS info?

Is it freeware/shareware, or proprietary?

Either way, thx for the great info.

~ Strat ~

[GTengineer]

Stratcat,

I hear you but you can see where I am coming from now. Not only has it been far too long (February) but it is know that there are problems with the current BIOS. Doesn't matter though I just ordered a Gigabyte P35 DS3R :D I didn't really need SLI anyway. This board has received BIOS updates every month so they seem to be on the ball. The other ASUS with intel chips were just out of my price range anyway. I can't wait to get a hold of it :santa:

[neonlazer]

Woops nvm..im looking at getting the P35C DS3R...i wish i could order it now but no point buying it now since cant run a computer without a cpu lol...come on intel release the Q6600 g0 early =P

[Stratcat]

Stratcat,

I hear you but you can see where I am coming from now. Not only has it been far too long (February) but it is know that there are problems with the current BIOS. Doesn't matter though I just ordered a Gigabyte P35 DS3R :D I didn't really need SLI anyway. This board has received BIOS updates every month so they seem to be on the ball. The other ASUS with intel chips were just out of my price range anyway. I can't wait to get a hold of it :santa:Heh, yeah, it does look like Asus orphaned your board for some reason, sadly. I guess the best thing to do, in general, is to pick a board with an established good rep and a large following, which is what it looks like you'ven now done.

It's also great you provided your feedback on the BIOS issues with your board. It's another example of the value of this forum, where we can all learn by sharing our actual retail purchase experiences. You can't buy that anywhere! :beer:

Good luck!

~ Strat ~

[bing]

Update, just released latest Asus P5B Deluxe 1212 BIOS HERE (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5B Deluxe Wifi-AP/P5BD1212.zip), as expected, Q6600 G0 is now supported. :clap:

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Also there are alot of others mobo's bioses released today at Asus FTP, too bad I haven't seen P5N32-E SLI Plus yet.

Stratcat, its a proprietary tool.

[w2richwood]

thankz bing you quick helpful good man rich

[Peepaw]

Thanks Bing, good news.:beer:

Edit: Got it.

[bing]

GT, there is a new bios for your mobo P5N32-E SLI Plus at asus ftp here (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E SLI Plus/1201.zip)

Prolly its updated with G0 ucode.

[filete]

Update, just released latest Asus P5B Deluxe 1212 BIOS HERE (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5B Deluxe Wifi-AP/P5BD1212.zip), as expected, Q6600 G0 is now supported. :clap:

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Also there are alot of others mobo's bioses released today at Asus FTP, too bad I haven't seen P5N32-E SLI Plus yet.

Stratcat, its a proprietary tool.
That´s great news!!
I am too waiting for the Q6600 price drop to get the GO model,
and I already have all the other components for the build.

But now, I wonder how to upgrade my board P5B-Deluxe bios to 1212 version,
if this is a new build and I don´t have another CPU to post the computer??
:confused:

[GTengineer]

GT, there is a new bios for your mobo P5N32-E SLI Plus at asus ftp here (ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5N32-E SLI Plus/1201.zip)

Prolly its updated with G0 ucode.

thanks bing! Unfortunately I already bought a new P35 board so I will test both of them before I decide which I will sell but it will probably be the Asus because I don't need SLI anyway.

[Stratcat]

Stratcat, its a proprietary tool.Ok, bing, no problem.

In that case, I'll just say "thanks for this response to my question", and, "thanks for your kind help supplying this important compatability info"! :beer:

~ Strat ~

[filete]

That´s great news!!
I am too waiting for the Q6600 price drop to get the GO model,
and I already have all the other components for the build.

But now, I wonder how to upgrade my board P5B-Deluxe bios to 1212 version,
if this is a new build and I don´t have another CPU to post the computer??
:confused:


Anyone knows!!
:confused:

[bing]

If the mobo bios (asuuming its not updated), then its not possible to boot on your new G0 CPU.

Is there any possiblity to borrow or rent an older CPU like celery for 30 minutes from local shop ? or even friend ? :)

[prpz]

Yeah Im wondering the same thing about the gigabyte dsr3

[devvingiorgio]

crap, and i'm wondering that too ! my p35-ds3r comes today ....when the G0 Q6600 comes, are we saying we won't even get to a post screen ??? wtf will we do ? ahh :(

[Reefa_Madness]

It is always a good thing to have a spare "run of the mill" processor (even a Celly...) and some value ram just for this very purpose (BIOS updates of new processors).

[GTengineer]

the p35-ds3r already supports the 6X50 duals and QX6850 processors which are all g0 stepping it is written explicitly in the Gigabyte website (this is with the F4 BIOS). I am pretty sure it already supports g0 Q6600 and if not a new update should be in the works soon I am sure. There are older mobos which already support it as bing has shown. Gigabyte I feel has done a very good job with updates.

see here (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/CPUSupport_Model.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2543&ProductName=GA-P35-DS3R)

[batboy]

For those of us with the Abit AW9D mobo, BIOS version 15 supposedly supports the new E6750 and E6850.

[Brolloks]

For those of us with the Abit AW9D mobo, BIOS version 15 supposedly supports the new E6750 and E6850.

What about the Abit AB9?

[batboy]

Looks like the latest version 19 BIOS update for the AB9 is the one you want.

BIOS release V19 for AB9, AB9 Pro

1. Support FSB1333 CPUs
2. BIOS compiled date: 06/27/2007

ftp://ftp-usa.abit.com.tw/pub/download/bios/ab9/

[Brolloks]

Super, thanks Batboy....now just 1 week and a bit of wait...

[SH0DAN]

Dudley, latest P5K Deluxe 0404 Bios (06/15/2007), G0 is ready. :D

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Does anyone know if the Asus P5K-Dlx supports the new G0 stepping X3210 ?
I will be making a purchase of both on the 27th and need to know.TIA !

[Peepaw]

Does anyone know if the Asus P5K-Dlx supports the new G0 stepping X3210 ?
I will be making a purchase of both on the 27th and need to know.TIA !

It does but if you get a board with an older bios, then you will have to flash to the newer bios. The problem being is that you won't be able to post with a GO stepper to flash the bios. Seen this a bunch over at xs.

What some of them are having to do is install another chip(non GO), flash the bios and then swap out cpu.
Waht a pain.:-/

[bing]

Disclaimer !
There is no guarantee these provided info is 100% accurate, since they were extracted using undocumented/unofficial method. :)

The most accurate & reliable way is to contact your mobo manucfacturer officially for confirmation.

Hope this "unofficial" info will be useful for you to prepare a contingency plan if necessary. :)


List of ucodes in the bios rom file.

Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus 0801 BIOS, G0 is there ! :D
ID CPUID
-----------
2C 0F25
17 0F34
17 0F41
05 0F43
06 0F44
03 0F47
04 0F4A
03 0F49
04 0F64
0A 0F32
02 0F37
05 0F60
07 0F61
0F 0F62
0B 0F65
A1 06FD
B3 06FB
82 06F9
66 06F7
C6 06F6
56 06F2
33 06F5
33 06F5
26 06F4
32 0661
04 0660
B3 06FB --> G0 microcode
06 0671
06 0671


Abit AB9 , Bios file -> AB9_19.bin, I can't find G0 ucode there (06FB), only B3 stepping (06F7)

ID CPUID
-----------
0B 0F02
09 0F65
04 0F64
0F 0F62
07 0F61
05 0F60
04 0F4A
03 0F49
03 0F47
06 0F44
05 0F43
03 0F42
17 0F41
02 0F37
17 0F34
0C 0F33
0A 0F32
0B 0F31
12 0F30
04 0660
15 0661
82 06F9
60 06F7 -> B3 stepping
44 06F6
33 06F5
33 06F5
26 06F4
11 06F1
51 06F2
05 06F0
05 06F0
05 06F0

[filete]

What´s the use of G0 stepping anyway?
:-/

[SH0DAN]

It does but if you get a board with an older bios, then you will have to flash to the newer bios. The problem being is that you won't be able to post with a GO stepper to flash the bios. Seen this a bunch over at xs.

What some of them are having to do is install another chip(non GO), flash the bios and then swap out cpu.
Waht a pain.:-/



Thanks....


So the P5K-Deluxe WiFi-AP does support the Xeon quadcores ? what bios revision exactly does it need ?

I went to Asus's website and they list all the dual's including the 6x50 chips that are G0 and out on the 24th,but no quads or quad Xeons,not even the Q6600 or X6700 are listed under 'supported' chips for the P5K-Deluxe.....I have found one person claim to have booted up a P5K-Deluxe with a X3210 quad core Xeon,but no one provided pics as proof.The other person that did claim it on XS showed it running on a Gigabyte DS3.The one person that did that I can find,has a link to a blog,but when you go to his blog the pics are of the chip on a P5B-Deluxe(P965)...not the P5K(P35)

Asus's site is horribly slow on my 7 meg DSL connection,and their 'forum' is a waste of time.Can anyone direct me to some hard data on this.

[SH0DAN]

What´s the use of G0 stepping anyway?
:-/


They run cooler and may overclock better then B3 stepping chips.

[Peepaw]

Dudley, latest P5K Deluxe 0404 Bios (06/15/2007), G0 is ready. :D

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Post 31 in this thread.

I think it covers any Go but I'm not sure of that.

[bing]

Shodan,

Yes, 0404 covers Xeon X3220 and X3110 all G0 stepping as well, cheer up ! :)

[SH0DAN]

Shodan,

Yes, 0404 covers Xeon X3220 and X3110 all G0 stepping as well, cheer up ! :)


Thanks ! My future purchases are decided then ! Your a gem ! :clap: :attn:

[Spanki]

Has anyone seen a list of CPUIDs for the other new E6x50 cpus?

[William Hung]

I've got mine running now on the old XBX. Had to reprogram my own BIOS to add the code. That's a pretty scary thing to do, but it worked... first time. Now to spend some time getting it all tuned.

[Karnal]

So I preordered one of the Q6600 with G0 now I need to figure out what MB to pair it up with, any recomendations?

[filete]

Hey, new Q6600 price today!
:clap:

Two questions:

1-How do I know I am getting the G0 stepping one?
2-What´s the cheapest CPU I can get for the P5B motherboard,
to be able to update the BIOS and then change to Q6600?

(Update to 2 question!) I´ve just read on the overclock.net that you don´t need another CPU to be able
to update the BIOS, you can use the Q6600 even the G0 model, that´s fine.
You don't need to have support for the stepping,
The Stepping support is required for optimal performance and use.
So, you can just download the newest BIOS, extract it onto a flash drive and use
the EZ flash utility (in case of ASUS boards) in the BIOS!
Here´s the link of this topic:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/212637-n00b-question-can-you-update-mobo.html

So, can anyone here confirm this information is correct?



Thanks!

[GTengineer]

So I preordered one of the Q6600 with G0 now I need to figure out what MB to pair it up with, any recomendations?

GA-P35-DS3R or GA-P35-DS3P (if you want crossfire)
Abit IP35
Asus P5K Deluxe (pricey)

I favor the GA and Abit they are much better value. The P35 is definitely the chip you want right now for OCing Q6600.

[ancalime]

Hey, new Q6600 price today!
:clap:

Two questions:

1-How do I know I am getting the G0 stepping one?
2-What´s the cheapest CPU I can get for the P5B motherboard,
to be able to update the BIOS and then change to Q6600?

Thanks!
1. You won't know unless you have pre-ordered from Tankguys.com or the seller explicitely states it is G0. I don't think there are Q6600 G0s as of yet though.
2. I don't understand your question.

[filete]

(Update to 2 question!) I´ve just read on the overclock.net that you don´t need another CPU to be able
to update the BIOS, you can use the Q6600 even the G0 model, that´s fine.
You don't need to have support for the stepping,
The Stepping support is required for optimal performance and use.
So, you can just download the newest BIOS, extract it onto a flash drive and use
the EZ flash utility (in case of ASUS boards) in the BIOS!

Here´s the link of this topic:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-mothe...date-mobo.html

So, can anyone here confirm this information is correct?

Thanks!

[GTengineer]

1. You won't know unless you have pre-ordered from Tankguys.com or the seller explicitely states it is G0. I don't think there are Q6600 G0s as of yet though.
2. I don't understand your question.

In addition you could also simply go to a retail store and look for the product code SLACR on the box.

[GTengineer]

(Update to 2 question!) I´ve just read on the overclock.net that you don´t need another CPU to be able
to update the BIOS, you can use the Q6600 even the G0 model, that´s fine.
You don't need to have support for the stepping,
The Stepping support is required for optimal performance and use.


Nonesense :rolleyes:

You will need an updated BIOS that supports the new g0 stepping otherwise the motherboard will NOT boot. You may have the BIOS that already supports it I dunno but you need to check your board's manufacturer to make sure their latest BIOS supports the 6X50 processors. It is not about "optimal use or performance".

But yes to flash your BIOS you can just download the latest BIOS save them to a USB drive and use EZ Flash to update them (I take it you have an Asus board). What motherboard are you using and what BIOS? I will see if I can find out if your board is ready or not.

[filete]

Nonesense :rolleyes:
You will need an updated BIOS that supports the new g0 stepping otherwise the motherboard will NOT boot. You may have the BIOS that already supports it I dunno but you need to check your board's manufacturer to make sure their latest BIOS supports the 6X50 processors. It is not about "optimal use or performance".
Did you checked the link of the place where I´ve saw that info?
So, what everyone is saying there is bull****?! :-/
Because there´s even one person that says that Motherboards can even post without a cpu.
All it really needs is power and ram!
But yes to flash your BIOS you can just download the latest BIOS save them to a USB drive and use EZ Flash to update them (I take it you have an Asus board). What motherboard are you using and what BIOS? I will see if I can find out if your board is ready or not.
I have still all the components in their boxes, last thing i need to buy is the Q6600, and
I dont feel happy to need to buy another CPU to be able to update the BIOS!
:bang head
The motherboard is the P5B Deluxe, and I got it one month ago, but I dont know what version it comes,
there is any way to know without connecting the board? I dont think ASUS board have that info on the card box!

I´ve already download from the ASUS website the BIOS that support the G0 stepping, its version 1212.
And last week a new BIOS version 1215 was release to be able to suppport compatibility under FSB1333 mode!
:p

[GTengineer]

I clicked on the link but it took me nowhere. If that is really what they are saying then their collective bandwagon is wrong.

This very same thread (page 2)
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5133876&postcount=47

Sine you already have BIOS 1212 you are ready for g0 stepping

[filete]

I´ve double checked the link I gave, and its correct!
Please try again:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/212637-n00b-question-can-you-update-mobo.html

Since you already have BIOS 1212 you are ready for g0 stepping

Yes, I am ready for G0 stepping since I have the new BIOS from the ASUS dowload page, but also NO, because its not in the board yet,
and according to your reply, I can´t update this 1212 to my new motherboard
if I dont get another CPU, since you say the system will not post with a g0 CPU there!

How can I make sure you are not wrong and
the other forum is right?
:D

[GTengineer]

you DO NOT need a new cpu simply to update your BIOS. Just update it with a USB flash using EZ Flash and be done with it.

[filete]

you DO NOT need a new cpu simply to update your BIOS. Just update it with a USB flash using EZ Flash and be done with it.
What the ****!!:-/
You are confusing me!:confused:

Do you understand that I don´t have anything build yet,
and I will need to update the BIOS using the G0 Q6600?
So, now you are saying the system can post with a G0 processor,
even if the motherboard does not support the G0 ?

This is same the other´s guys on overclock.net are saying!
:p

The reason for all this mess and confusing, is that I was inform in this topic (just page up a little),
that I would need another CPU, since I was unable to update the BIOS with a G0 CPU in the socket!!

[GTengineer]

What the ****!!:-/
You are confusing me!:confused:

Do you understand that I don´t have anything build yet,
and I will need to update the BIOS using the G0 Q6600?
So, now you are saying the system can post with a G0 processor,
even if the motherboard does not support the G0 ?

This is same the other´s guys on overclock.net are saying!
:p

The reason for all this mess and confusing, is that I was inform in this topic (just page up a little),
that I would need another CPU, since I was unable to update the BIOS with a G0 CPU in the socket!!

nevermind dude just follow the advise over at the other thread. Im done.