Athlon 1200@900 =(=(=(

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

I bought a Athlon Tbird 1.2 at a tradeshow, i know it's 1.2 because i checked the code on the ship and it says 1200 on it.

Well, when I first booted up my pc the cpu speed got registered as 900, ( it might be because at the store i bought the mobo from, i asked them too test the mobo and they used a duron 900 so maybe the mulitplier is stuck at 9) and i can't get it too boot up at 1.2

It's at 9x100 right now, when i go 9x133 windows gives me blue screen saying system file has been corrupted.

In the manual it says to hold PageUp while it's booting to reset the cpu speed, but that doesn't seem to want too work.
I've cleared the CMOS many times, and don't know what to do.

System specs are in the sig

Thanks to any help i can get

[Dissolved]

well maybe u got a bad chip.. is it unlocked?

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

it's unlocked,

http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?threadid=49077

can't even get into safe mode, heck the option screen to select which mode i want to go into when I press F8 won't even show up

[JAWS]

Did you unplug from the wall and wait 30 seconds after you cleared cmos? Sorry not to familiar with your mobo!

[Dissolved]

sounds like a bios/mobo setting

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

i'll try clearing the cmos again

[Dissolved]

call amd they'll give u tech support, they helped me, either that or ur the mobo manafactur and ask them.. u may be able to get a new mobo

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

I just tried clearing cmos didn't work, tried goin at 1200 windows started booting then bam restarted my machine and wouldn't have it anymore

after that little experience my temps were:

System: 34C/93F
CPU: 43C/109F

seem high to me but what do i know

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

oh and in my sig i dont have those 2 case fans yet, but i should by tomorow

[Mr B]

Houston M830.... the M830 sounds like a PC Chips manufactured mobo...

If that's the case, there's the problem right there.... PC Chips boards usually have a Mxxx designaton. I've heard nothing but bad things, and tales of woe about any/all PC Chips boards....

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

i know, i kind of got screwed into that but anyways the cou should still boot at 1200, with a fan this damn loud it better boot at 1200

[Mr B]

Somehow, I don't think it's the chip...but...

Have you had any other chips on there run 133 (or more) FSB??

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

nope, first cpu, on the mobo it can run at 133 i just need some more cooling, or so i think...

p.s. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/AboutAMD/0,,51_52_3592_712,00.html - would I call direct or toll free, from Canada

[Mr B]

Originally posted by Oreo_The_Cookie
nope, first cpu, on the mobo it can run at 133 i just need some more cooling, or so i think...

p.s. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/AboutAMD/0,,51_52_3592_712,00.html - would I call direct or toll free, from Canada

Direct, I think....the toll free number says something about NOT for PC compatable processors....

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

ya that threw me off too

crazy companies and their crazy terminology

[Thelemac]

What is the full code on the processor? Sounds like you have a 266 one, which would require you to run at 133 FSB. If that's the case then you just might be a bit out of luck. You might be able to set the mult via the bridges on your cpu, though I don't know which set it is, nor do I know a place to find out. I know that there are people here that do know.

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

http://203.161.230.38/product_img/socket_a/m830lr.html

manual has nothing and yes it is 266

tomorow i'll buy fans, buy thermal paste, re aplpy the hsf, and spend 2 hours studying every little line on my mobo

[Thelemac]

You might want to try bringing your system temps down. That'll probably help a lot. Since you can actually get to Windows for it to tell you that it's messed up you're reallyl close to having it stable. I would say that adding a case fan or two would set you up nicely. Unless your computer room is just really hot.

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

Thanks for all the insight, I'll post back here with what happened

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Oreo_The_Cookie
spend 2 hours studying every little line on my mobo

i go that with my mobo manuel every night.. :cool:

[diehrd]

Try booting at 12x100 you may have a b series chip.

[Kendle666]

Oreo, I don't know, how yer money sitch is................but if I was ya, I'd get another MoBo............Other than a generic type like that one ya got .................heh I bet if ya askk arround somebody here has an older working kt133a chipset board they would sell ya pretty cheap

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

okay, okay, i think i just figured out my problem


Is the fan on the heatsink supposed to blow air onto the cpu or away from the cpu?

Mine is blowing onto the cpu and that doesn't seem right

If it's supposed to blow away from the cpu then how do i chang the direction? Thermaltake Volcano 6cu+

[Mr B]

Originally posted by Kendle666
...heh I bet if ya askk arround somebody here has an older working kt133a chipset board they would sell ya pretty cheap

Hold off on this until the Classifieds situation is resolved.... any "ads", either buying or selling, will still be deleted.

[JAWS]

Originally posted by Oreo_The_Cookie
okay, okay, i think i just figured out my problem


Is the fan on the heatsink supposed to blow air onto the cpu or away from the cpu?

Mine is blowing onto the cpu and that doesn't seem right

If it's supposed to blow away from the cpu then how do i chang the direction? Thermaltake Volcano 6cu+

Yes you have it right!

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

Yes you have it right!

so i should change the fan to blow away from the cpu?

[Dissolved]

Originally posted by Oreo_The_Cookie


so i should change the fan to blow away from the cpu?

No, that heatsink is make for the fan to blow on the cpu.. Not away

[lennytiger]

Are you sure you have the 266FSB Athlon running on a DDR 266 board that are both completely compatible??

If you have a 266FSB Athlon and a 200FSB board the chip will boot at 900MHz and no more...

Check what chip you have 200/266 and change the mobo to that of the chip.

[FRANK]

Post some more information about your motherboard. It sounds like you have an "inexpensive" board that may have the original KT133 chipset. This chipset is known to have a limit of about 107 / 110MHz FSB. When AMD released the 266FSB ("C") CPU's, VIA revamped the chipset to officially support this newer 266MHz ("C") series of CPUs, this would be the "KT133A". In fact many have reported attaining a FSB of 150+MHz with this newer chipset.

Even if your motherboard does support 133MHz FSB, there is usually a jumper that must be set on the board to be able to achieve this.


Good Luck!

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

well, i can get it too boot up at 1200 now, but after a min it resets and boots back up.

I'll go to the store that gave it too me, get the mobo exchanged

[Fahrell]

Go to the store, test the mobo with another cpu...
if it were ok, test your cpu with another mobo...
if both are ok, test your RAM, maybe it is pc100 and not pc133
if all were ok... your heatsink may be loose in contact w/ the die of the chip or you're not assembling it correctly...

don't mind about your mobo... PcChips sells unexpensive boards, they are the same manufacturing company as ECS, who makes pretty good boards. And sis735 (the chipset of your board if it is a m830) is way ahead of the old kt133a, just check anandtech or tomshardware to see...

let me know the results...

btw, I have an ASUS a7v133 and a Pcchips m830lr both with tbird 1.4 and the ASUS has more features like Raid, overclocking dip switches etc... but the sis735 is faster, uses DDR ram, and is doing a pretty good job... look at my sig...

[Oreo_The_Cookie]

Ya it's been a few months - still no luck.

Got some case fans - didnt work.

Got a new heatsink - didnt work.

Havent been able to get my hands on another cpu but i should pretty soon.

Oh well, better luck next pc. Thanks again for all the help.

[Kendan]

Check out this site. It is for the K7S5A but it describes your problem. It is also linked from the front page. http://www.geocities.com/mrathlon2000/

Edit also check out ocworkbench's K7S5A section.

[Overclocker550]

you need a new mobo. yours doesnt support 133fsb :(

[Fahrell]

Only if it is a defective mobo...

this board is capable of 133 fsb... mine is doing 147mhz fsb&ram right now...

go to the store and test as I said before... to isolate the defective component...

[Overclocker550]

Originally posted by Fahrell
Only if it is a defective mobo...

this board is capable of 133 fsb... mine is doing 147mhz fsb&ram right now...

go to the store and test as I said before... to isolate the defective component...


maybe his cpu wont overclock, or makes too much heat to run faster?

[ThePunkGeek]

its jsut running at 100fsb
there will be a jumper or bios setting to bump to 133 :)