AMD XP - Performance Oversell!!!

[popadel]

I cant honestly see why anyone would fall for the XP processors sale pitch if they look at the benchmarks of OC'd 1.4 T-Birds.
Other than the SSE i knock the pants off the 1900+ XP even at 1632 nevermind 1733!!

Rather wait for the .13 micron CPUs and then wind those up. A japanese guy just clocked the Northwald .13 micron 2.2 to 2.9 gig, mabw AMD might have the same potential.

[Kendle666]

Here's something to think about ........................HEAT!...........that po' ole Thunderchicken is starting to smell like Kentucy FRIED chicken.......................sheesh............65 c @ idle...............but stable?

[Mr B]

That's one advantage of the XP's....heat! They put out a lot less of it....:p

And if someone's got a 1.4 T-Bird they like to *ahem* part company with... I'd love to see how it stacks up against my XP....

I'm running Folding@home 24/7, and the temps only go over 40c if I'm playing 3D intensive stuff while Folding.

That's the part I like....I don't have a space heater running under my 'puter desk...

1.7GHz in nice too....:D

[Iamghey]

what's folding?

[azhari]

Glad you asked. Folding is a client that you can run on your computer that folds proteins to help find cures for diseases. If you want to learn more about it I would suggest heading over to the Folding@Home section of this forum. We can always use more folders in our group (we have a competition with other teams for points also).

Definitely check it out. Help our team and the forum beat others too ;)

[Angry]

I hope you realize that Bird wont last long at that temp...the Xps are at a good price for how they perform, even agaisnt a p4...

jusr my $0.02

[Eliminator]

My AMD XP 1600+(1.4) kicks the snot out of my T-Bird 1.4@1.659 in completing work units for Seti.
XP 1600+ = 3.7 hrs/WU
T-Bird 1.4@1.659 = 4.05 hrs/WU

That's a Huge advantage

[popadel]

Well i gues i dont expect it to last too long, mabe 4 months at 65C but im seriously considering P4 as the last time AMD made us all wait 6 months longet for their NEW products! Northwarld...or whatever its called is already out this week at .13 micron and at 2.2G so by Feb 2002, i expect 2.5???

See what happens when you let the marketers loose on enegeneers - Im so hurt! :(

[CrackedSKull]

65c idle! 2.21v! Don't expect your chip to last much longer, it seems alright now, but at any second it could be dead. P4? 2.2ghz will be out in feb, but for what $600 and there will probably be a faster Athlon Xp 2100+ for less that $300. If you don't care about frying your chip, I bet you could get a 1900+ near 2ghz with enough voltage.

[Maximus Nickus]

You said some guy got his P4 to 2.9Ghz? Links please!!

Read this Thread (http://forums.overclockers.ws/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51544) as you can see there is a Thoroughbred 1.8Ghz XP coming out in Feb, at only 1.65VCore.

[popadel]

Link is on the Overclokers Australia web page as well as on the AMDMB.com site.

[plague]

well that chart just shows how much of an increase in mhz P4s need to gain a slight performance advantage. one of those benches showed a 1.6 ghz XP equal to a 2.2 ghz in-smell. thats 600 mhz faster and a lot more money. not worth it to me.

[Tobes]

Originally posted by Mr B
That's one advantage of the XP's....heat! They put out a lot less of it....:p

And if someone's got a 1.4 T-Bird they like to *ahem* part company with... I'd love to see how it stacks up against my XP....

I'm running Folding@home 24/7, and the temps only go over 40c if I'm playing 3D intensive stuff while Folding.

That's the part I like....I don't have a space heater running under my 'puter desk...

1.7GHz in nice too....:D


I think the 1.4 t-bird gets too much flack for its heat output. In most situations where they are running very hot, the user has pushed the voltage way above spec.

My chip runs at 1.6Ghz @ 1.75V, max load temp is ~50C.
No problem. And I only use a medium efficiency HSF.

At the standard voltage a t-bird will be 5-6C hotter than a similarly clocked XP.
BTW has anyone noticed that the maximum case temp has dropped from 95C (t-bird) to 90C (XP).
So that temp advantage might not be that signifigant after all.