View Full Version : Can you or not POST the system with Q6600??
Hey!
I´ve just read on the overclock.net that you don´t need another CPU with B3 stepping
to be able to update the BIOS version with support the G0 stepping, you can use the Q6600, even the G0 model, that´s fine.
You don't need to have support for the stepping,
The Stepping support is required for optimal performance and use.
So, you can just download the newest BIOS, extract it onto a flash drive and use
the EZ flash utility (in case of ASUS boards) in the BIOS!
Here´s the link of this topic:
http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/212637-n00b-question-can-you-update-mobo.html
So, can anyone here confirm this information is correct?
thideras
07-23-07, 03:26 PM
From what I've seen, if your motherboard doesn't support the G0 stepping...it doesn't even post...let alone be able to flash the BIOS...:beer:
From what I've seen, if your motherboard doesn't support the G0 stepping...it doesn't even post...let alone be able to flash the BIOS...:beer:
Let alone?
:confused:
From what I've seen, if your motherboard doesn't support the G0 stepping...it doesn't even post...let alone be able to flash the BIOS...:beer:
That's exactly what I've been seeing. Over at xs there are a few that won't even post if the bios doesn't include support for the GO steppings.
We are fixing to see a lot of this I believe.:-/
thideras
07-23-07, 03:40 PM
Let alone?
:confused:Sorry, that must be a strange phrase for you...:beer:
I mean, it won't post and because of that you won't be able to flash the BIOS either.
Sorry about the mixup, lol :bday:
William Hung
07-23-07, 03:44 PM
It's true, if the BIOS doesn't include the G-0 Stepping support, then the system will not even post and you will not be able to update. I had to repeatedly "Reuse" my B3 stepping QX6700 while hacking the BIOS with a utility until I could get G0 to post. Hopefully your motherboard vendor will provide a nice, easy upgrade. BIOS tweaking is scary.:-/
thideras
07-23-07, 03:45 PM
It's true, if the BIOS doesn't include the G-0 Stepping support, then the system will not even post and you will not be able to update. I had to repeatedly "Reuse" my B3 stepping QX6700 while hacking the BIOS with a utility until I could get G0 to post. Hopefully your motherboard vendor will provide a nice, easy upgrade. BIOS tweaking is scary.:-/Yes, but it isn't fun if it isn't risky! ;)
aintnospam
07-23-07, 03:46 PM
hold up...can anyone confirm this? (found it in the link)
"Motherboards can post without a cpu. All it really needs is power and ram, ( and a video card if you want to see it )"
thideras
07-23-07, 03:48 PM
hold up...can anyone confirm this? (found it in the link)
"Motherboards can post without a cpu. All it really needs is power and ram, ( and a video card if you want to see it )"No, you have to have a CPU, otherwise what is going to do the processing?? ;)
So that means I have to buy another CPU,
just to be able to update the BIOS in order to use G0 Q6600...!!
:bang head
I dont think this is a good deal!
I bet we are going to see people that need to build
a new system from root, like myself, forget about the G0
and just get the B3 Q6600!
For the price, any of the 2 are good, and if you see
builds with the B3 Q6600 overclocked at 3.1Mhz stable and
running at great temperatures, what can you gain with G0 ?
There´s no proof at this time, from Intel or any source,
that G0 will overclock better that B3....
Just my 2 cents!
:-/
White_Pawn
07-23-07, 04:39 PM
So that means I have to buy another CPU,
just to be able to update the BIOS in order to use G0 Q6600...!!
:bang head
I dont think this is a good deal!
I bet we are going to see people that need to build
a new system from root, like myself, forget about the G0
and just get the B3 Q6600!
For the price, any of the 2 are good, and if you see
builds with the B3 Q6600 overclocked at 3.1Mhz stable and
running at great temperatures, what can you gain with G0 ?
There´s no prove at this time, from Intel or any source,
that G0 will overclock better that B3....
Just my 2 cents!
:-/
That's where you are totally wrong! :clap:
G0 > B3
It runs cooler and clocks higher.
95W vs. 105W.
Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!
G0 can usually hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air!
Now... if you find a B3 that will hit 4ghz... then perhaps there is no proof. However, until you do so, i believe in G0.
Even IF it didn't clock higher, it still runs cooler.
jason4207
07-23-07, 04:40 PM
I haven't ordered my MoBo yet. How can I make sure I get 1 w/ the latest BIOS? I plan on getting the P35-DS3R or P35-DS3P (for firewire & eSata), and an e6750 in about a week or whenever the g0 prices stabilize. I don't have another 775 CPU, so I need g0 support out of the box, or I'll be dead in the water.
I'm thinking Gigabyte would do a x-ship RMA if this turns out to be a problem for me or others. What else can be done?
That's where you are totally wrong! :clap:
G0 > B3
It runs cooler and clocks higher.
95W vs. 105W.
Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!
G0 can usually hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air!
Now... if you find a B3 that will hit 4ghz... then perhaps there is no proof. However, until you do so, i believe in G0.
Even IF it didn't clock higher, it still runs cooler.
If you can get me a solution to use the G0 without
having to buy another CPU, just to update the BIOS,
I am with you!!
:D
jason4207
07-23-07, 04:44 PM
hold up...can anyone confirm this? (found it in the link)
"Motherboards can post without a cpu. All it really needs is power and ram, ( and a video card if you want to see it )"
Without a CPU all a MoBo will do is cuss at you. Because of censors, though, all you'll hear is beeps.
StrandedMartian
07-25-07, 08:06 PM
That's where you are totally wrong! :clap:
G0 > B3
It runs cooler and clocks higher.
95W vs. 105W.
Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!
G0 can usually hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air!
links to these many GO Q6600 that have hit 4ghz?
I haven't ordered my MoBo yet. How can I make sure I get 1 w/ the latest BIOS? I plan on getting the P35-DS3R or P35-DS3P (for firewire & eSata), and an e6750 in about a week or whenever the g0 prices stabilize. I don't have another 775 CPU, so I need g0 support out of the box, or I'll be dead in the water.
I'm thinking Gigabyte would do a x-ship RMA if this turns out to be a problem for me or others. What else can be done?
I would also like to know the answer to this too cause I am planning to get the same parts.
ancalime
07-25-07, 08:46 PM
There are a lot of reports of people booting with G0 placed in their DS3s. I am pretty sure no BIOS update will be necessary to boot with G0 on DS3 boards.
JamesXP
07-25-07, 08:47 PM
I read here that when they put there G0 in it just said inable to find processor code f1 to contiunue.
David_N
07-25-07, 08:53 PM
I hope I don't run in to any problems... I don't have any other 775 Intel CPU's!
I'm somewhat second guessing the IP35 Pro, but we'll see how it turns out.
Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!
G0 can usually hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air!
I'd like to know your sources because from what I've seen so far, 3.4-3.6 gig is hard enough even with watercooling.
To get back on topic, some motherboards might allow you to boot and update the BIOS while others probably won't boot at all.
aaronjb
07-25-07, 09:23 PM
That's where you are totally wrong! :clap:
G0 > B3
It runs cooler and clocks higher.
95W vs. 105W.
Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!
G0 can usually hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air!
Now... if you find a B3 that will hit 4ghz... then perhaps there is no proof. However, until you do so, i believe in G0.
Even IF it didn't clock higher, it still runs cooler.
Please don't feed they hype. Show me all those retail G0-stepping Q6600's which have hit even 3.6Ghz.
JamesXP
07-25-07, 09:34 PM
look in this section :P
3.6 gig Orthos stable with air? Orion is at 3.6 right now, but he's on water.
claudiuso
07-26-07, 04:25 AM
That's where you are totally wrong! :clap:
G0 > B3
It runs cooler and clocks higher.
95W vs. 105W.
Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!
G0 can usually hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air!
Now... if you find a B3 that will hit 4ghz... then perhaps there is no proof. However, until you do so, i believe in G0.
Even IF it didn't clock higher, it still runs cooler.
You're basing your statment that "Many G0 Q6600 have hit 4ghz!" on a couple of ES chips. Please stop feeding false information since there weren't any retail G0 out at that time. I as many others come to this site to learn not be fed junk.
Do you by any chance have a time machine or can predict the future since you seem so confident that they "can USUALLY hit 3.4-3.6ghz on air"?
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