Overclocking Celeron 900MHz

[Stiv]

I picked up a Celeron 900MHz and a Super Slocket-III as a cheap way to get some more life out of my ABIT BH6 mobo and would like to overclock it, but I'm not having any luck. Whenever I set the external clock higher than 100MHz I get the "CPU is unworkable or has changed message" UNLESS I disable the Speed Error Hold in the CPU Soft Menu, then things start getting a little funky in Windows. I'm using the heatsink (t's a big daddy, too) and fan that came with the CPU, and I'm running the SS ABIT bios.

I overclocked a Celeron 300-A to 450MHz for nearly three years on this board with no problems, and am bummed I'm not getting anywhere with this chip.

Any suggestions?

[cyberey66]

my 1GHz won't OC at all either. It'll OC to 112 and boot 124 but it after about an hour in windows it'll crash. I had a huge P4 heatsink attached. IDK what to say, just get a bigger HS/f and some artic silver. Well whatever you do don't lap the CPU, it's nearly impossible to lap celmines. The die has no metal buffer between the core, the blue square is the accually core.

[Stiv]

Another weird thing is that Sandra is reporting the CPU as 600MHz with a 67MHz FSB! I set the jumpers on the Super Slocket-III for auto-detect AND manually for a 100MHz bus, and in the CPU soft-menu I made sure the 100/66 setting was on high, but Sandra is still reporting this chip as stated above.

Could the slocket be causing the error? I tried to find a good one from ABIT or ASUS but never could track one down so I got this Super Slocket-III from Bix Computers online. It claims to support both PPGA & FPCGA 370 CPUs, but all I know is I'm not getting the boost in performance I expected at 900MHz. After all, besides the increase in clock speed, I should be getting a nice boost from the fact that my bus speed went from 66 to 100 (Celeron 300-A bus speed is 66, this is supposed to be 100).

Any ideas????

[Yodums]

I may think its the poor slotket. Or you can buy where I got mine stsi.com go to search slotket and get the Asus Smart Slot 370-DL Rev 1.02 (MAKE SURE 1.02 for best support and performance and features) Its about 35USD altogether.

There are some people in the Overclockers Forum who have Slotket's Abit and iWill I believe..

See if you can post something.

[nucro]

Originally posted by Stiv
Whenever I set the external clock higher than 100MHz I get the "CPU is unworkable or has changed message" UNLESS I disable the Speed Error Hold in the CPU Soft Menu, then things start getting a little funky in Windows. I'm using the heatsink (t's a big daddy, too) and fan that came with the CPU, and I'm running the SS ABIT bios.



Any suggestions?

Sure you have to disable the Speed Error Hold in the CPU Soft Menu. That's the way to oc.

And you should try with a newer version of Sandra ,maybe the you're using is old.

My friend has oc'd hiz Celeron 1000 to 1333 with the intel hsf but you may need a better cooler.

[Stiv]

Originally posted by nucro


Sure you have to disable the Speed Error Hold in the CPU Soft Menu. That's the way to oc.



Hmmm, I didn't have to disable Speed Error when I was overclocking from 300 to 450. Anyway, I'm now more concerned about the bus speed being reported as 66MHz. Once I get that sussed out and can just run at 900MHz w/ 100MHz FSB, then I'll worry about OC.

Thanks for the tips!

[Yodums]

Originally posted by Stiv


Hmmm, I didn't have to disable Speed Error when I was overclocking from 300 to 450. Anyway, I'm now more concerned about the bus speed being reported as 66MHz. Once I get that sussed out and can just run at 900MHz w/ 100MHz FSB, then I'll worry about OC.

Thanks for the tips!

You have to disable speed hold because it'll prompt you when it detects your chip config is not correct...

[Stiv]

Originally posted by tsunami
I may think its the poor slotket. Or you can buy where I got mine stsi.com go to search slotket and get the Asus Smart Slot 370-DL Rev 1.02 (MAKE SURE 1.02 for best support and performance and features) Its about 35USD altogether.



I went to the Web site you suggested, but I didn't see anything listed as Rev 1.02. Would it be the S370-DL-B. or the S370-L-B? The DL-B is more expensive, but as I said none mention Rev 1.02.

Thanks

[Yodums]

http://www.stsi.com/Merchant3/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=STSI_3&Product_Code=S370-DL-B

Yes DL-B look at the third picture it says 1.02 as well as its a 5 bux difference.

[Stiv]

Originally posted by tsunami
http://www.stsi.com/Merchant3/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=STSI_3&Product_Code=S370-DL-B

Yes DL-B look at the third picture it says 1.02 as well as its a 5 bux difference.

Thanx. I'm not sure what to do now, by the time I buy this one I will have spent enough money to get a Slot 1 Pentium III 800. It's not worth the money to return the first piece of crap I got, and I'm afraid if I plop down another $35 it still won't work. On the other hand, I KNOW people are getting the right FSB out of these Celerons using a slocket. At this point I will be happy to run at 900MHz with a 100MHz FSB because that's a 50 percent jump in FSB, and that's got to make a huge difference.

Thanx again!

P.S. -- Heat is not a problem -- I'm running Motherboard Monitor and I'm at a steady 78 degrees Farenheit.

[Yodums]

Originally posted by Stiv


Thanx. I'm not sure what to do now, by the time I buy this one I will have spent enough money to get a Slot 1 Pentium III 800. It's not worth the money to return the first piece of crap I got, and I'm afraid if I plop down another $35 it still won't work. On the other hand, I KNOW people are getting the right FSB out of these Celerons using a slocket. At this point I will be happy to run at 900MHz with a 100MHz FSB because that's a 50 percent jump in FSB, and that's got to make a huge difference.

Thanx again!

P.S. -- Heat is not a problem -- I'm running Motherboard Monitor and I'm at a steady 78 degrees Farenheit.

Well that's life the P3 Slot 800mhz aren't that good I must add its hard to find a efficent Slot 1 Cooler that will do your needs since the orb will crap you at at those high speeds ..

[Godfodda]

Is the BH6 a 1.0 or 1.1? You might also try downloading WCPUID to get an accurate report of where your CPU is at. And how does it rank with Sandra's bench?

[batboy]

Speed error check should always be disabled when overclocking.

[Stiv]

Originally posted by Godfodda
Is the BH6 a 1.0 or 1.1? You might also try downloading WCPUID to get an accurate report of where your CPU is at. And how does it rank with Sandra's bench?

I ran WCPUID, but I couldn't find a report indicating the chip's bus speed. Here's whatI got under CPU Status:

Processor: Intel Celeron
Platform: Socket 370 (PGA370 Socket)
Vendor String: Genuine Intel
CPU Type: Original OEM Processor
Family: 6
Model: 8
Stepping ID: 10

Internal Clock: 902.4
System Bus: 100.23
System Clock: 100.23
Multiplier: 9.0

There's other stuff, but what seems to stand out to me is that the Platform is being reported as PGA370 Socket instead of FC-PGA370. Does WCPUID specify FC-PGA, or just say PGA and leave it at that.


Thanks to all for their input....

[Stiv]

Just a note to all who tried to help me -- I've got the Celly 900 running at 1.1GHz no problems. I can get into Windows at 1.2GHz, but usually lock up within 2 to 5 minutes, so I'll stick at 1.1 for now.

Anyhoo, thanx for all the good info and advice!

[Stiv]

BTTT to let everyone know how it worked out....

[The Doors]

Originally posted by Stiv
Just a note to all who tried to help me -- I've got the Celly 900 running at 1.1GHz no problems. I can get into Windows at 1.2GHz, but usually lock up within 2 to 5 minutes, so I'll stick at 1.1 for now.
Hi Stiv,
I'm in the same situation, stuck at 1.123Ghz (9x124Mhz), no more for the moment, and with higher Fsb doesn't boot at all :(

[Stiv]

Well, I can boot and even get into Windows at 1.2GHz. It's only after I do a few things in Windows that the whole shebang locks up. I suspect if I exerted the effort -- buying that Arctic stuff and other gizmoss -- to cool the chhip more I could get that extra 100MHz, but it doesn't seem cost-effective. I'm just happy I could go from 450MHz to 1.1GHz for a hundred bucks.

Stiv

[pappypete]

Stiv----I have BH6 w/900 cele, mine jumped all over 133FSB.
Believe it may go more, but it's the limit for BH6. Hope you
find that little extra. LOL!

[slim_lim]

Hey, Stiv. I'm doing the same upgrade as you are (BH6 + Celeron 900) and I thinks I may have some problems fitting it in (cramped case), so could you please answer a few questions for me?
There's a green heatsink on BH6 right next to Slot 1 where the slotket + CPU + HSF assemby is above it. Since you used the big Intel HSF, did you have any troube fitting it over the green HS? How much space do you have left between the Intel HSF and the green one? How much space between the Socket 370 on the slotket and the top of the Slot 1?
How tall is your Super Slotket III? Does the Intel HSF extend above it when installed? How much? What's the total height from the mobo to the top of the slotket assemby?
Sorry if it's too much trouble. I'm just confused :confused: and like you can't afford to spend much on on extra components to make it work, so i have to figure it all out in advance. Really appreciatie it if you could help.

[slim_lim]

Stiv, about hitting 133mhz fsb: there could be 2 reasons (besides heat) that I can think about that prevent you from reaching 1200/133.
One is if you have an older BH6 (rev. 1.0x, where x is a number) that don't support 1/4 pci divider for 133 fsb and use 1/3 instead, resulting in severely overclocked pci bus that can give you trouble. Nothing you can do about that I guess, although a FEW peeps reported working BH6 1.0x's at 133 FSB.
Another possibility is poor memory. Get a program that can identify your memory modules like ctSPD or Motherboard Monitor (a very nice program to have anyway) and see what they are. Generic PC100 modules are often unable to hit 133 mhz. If you have several modules and some of them are rated for 133, then try taking the rest out and see if your system is stable with just the PC133 modules installed.
Good luck!

[Stiv]

Originally posted by slim_lim
Hey, Stiv. I'm doing the same upgrade as you are (BH6 + Celeron 900) and I thinks I may have some problems fitting it in (cramped case), so could you please answer a few questions for me?
There's a green heatsink on BH6 right next to Slot 1 where the slotket + CPU + HSF assemby is above it. Since you used the big Intel HSF, did you have any troube fitting it over the green HS?


No problem in fitting it in. Just have to use the adapters to make sure the slot doesn't tilt all the time and go "funky."

How much space do you have left between the Intel HSF and the green one? How much space between the Socket 370 on the slotket and the top of the Slot 1?
How tall is your Super Slotket III? Does the Intel HSF extend above it when installed? How much? What's the total height from the mobo to the top of the slotket assemby?
Sorry if it's too much trouble. I'm just confused :confused: and like you can't afford to spend much on on extra components to make it work, so i have to figure it all out in advance. Really appreciatie it if you could help. [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey dude, I didn't take out the measuring stick! All I know for sure is that space was NO ISSUE at all.

Good luck!