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Recently I built a new system consisting of the following:
EVGA 8800GTX
Gigabyte P35C-DS3R
Intel Q6600 B3 Stepping
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme
Seagate 320gb HD
Corsair HX620
I didn't try to overclcok the first few days but attempted today. First thing I did was update the bios to F4g and then I go into the bios and set the frequency at 280 from 266 and I save to CMOS and it rebooted. Well once I see something on the screen the system restarts and it resorts to the old frequency. when I try a higher FSB like 300 I get this annoying high pitched screech coming from I don't know where but it does the same thing. Is this a bad board or something? What should I do about this problem?
Thanks!
David_N
07-29-07, 09:12 AM
What type of ram do you have?
Patriot Extreme Performance 4gb and sorry about creating another thread.
eternaljammer
07-29-07, 02:46 PM
very nice. I can't wait to go quad.
macklin01
07-29-07, 11:28 PM
Patriot Extreme Performance 4gb and sorry about creating another thread.
Not a problem; all fixed. ;) -- Paul
David_N
07-30-07, 05:25 AM
What command rate are you running at? If you are on 1t, try dropping it to 2t. If that doesn't do anything, switch your memory divider to something lower just for fun, you may have a very poorly OCing stick.
Or you could just run Memtest, which would actually be the best idea. I have a feeling your memory might be the problem.
I don't know what the command rate is, don't know exactly where to check tht in the bios. And do you know of any burning programs that will run on Vista 64-bit because I have nero 6 and it is telling me it cannot so I can't run memtest until I find a new one.
I don't know what the command rate is, don't know exactly where to check tht in the bios. And do you know of any burning programs that will run on Vista 64-bit because I have nero 6 and it is telling me it cannot so I can't run memtest until I find a new one.
Memtest doesn't run in Vista. It runs off its own bootup. Create a boot cd/disk from the ISO.
Sorry if I didn't explain it correctly, I don't have a cd burning program that creates bootable cds, the only one I had was nero and that doesn't want to work in 64-bit Vista. what are some burning programs that will create bootable cds that work with 64-bit vista?
shirker
07-30-07, 05:34 PM
Sorry if I didn't explain it correctly, I don't have a cd burning program that creates bootable cds, the only one I had was nero and that doesn't want to work in 64-bit Vista. what are some burning programs that will create bootable cds that work with 64-bit vista?tried ImgBurn yet? it doesn't officially support Vista x64, but people are using it successfully to burn image files
Alright, thanks for the recommendation of ImgBurn. Worked perfectly!
So when I ran memtest I let it run two passes which took an hour and 45 minutes and there were 0 errors.
Try test #5 and leave it for few hours !
I let it run for the past 8 hours and I had 0 errors in 9 passes.
So I found out the sound I was hearing was from the Power Supply but I tried using my old Antec 550w power supply and it wouldn't make the weird sound but the fans would start and then just turn off right away, do this twice and then reset to default settings.
jason4207
07-31-07, 10:00 PM
List all your BIOS settings, and maybe we can help.
Evilsizer
07-31-07, 10:44 PM
i see some are not familar with gigabyte boards. in order to get to the good section in the bios you have to hit CTRL+F1 at the same time. then you can change ram timings and others. sorry i dont have a gigaboard my self to look at the bios but i have become very familar with how to get to the "good section".
I know how to get to the advance settings. I have my ram timings at 5-5-5-15. I don't see anything about command rate though. I have mostly the default settings but have the vcore voltage at 1.375.
What settings exactly would you want to see?
treatmentx
08-01-07, 01:21 AM
I HIT 361FSB on my P5N32-E SLI 680i!!????!!!
link : (56k warning)
http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=361fsbstablezn5.jpg
treatmentx
08-01-07, 02:07 AM
Update for G0 Q6600 on P5N32-E SLI
Ok, I figured it out. BIOS 1203 clocked better, my wall is now at 375FSB... I could do 372FSB STABLE, with GREAT idle and load temps.
screenshot of load (56k warning)
http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=372fsbstablejo9.jpg
screenshot of idle (56k warning)
http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=372fsbstableidlejq2.jpg
orion456
08-01-07, 03:00 AM
Update for G0 Q6600 on P5N32-E SLI
Ok, I figured it out. BIOS 1203 clocked better, my wall is now at 375FSB... I could do 372FSB STABLE, with GREAT idle and load temps.
screenshot of load (56k warning)
http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=372fsbstablejo9.jpg
screenshot of idle (56k warning)
http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=372fsbstableidlejq2.jpg
Your memory is set to 13:15 and 429 mhz. But isn't that 16 x 429 = pc6864 so you are exceeding your pc6400 memory's specifications. Also your latency settings should normally be 5-5-5-15 at that speed. Are you sure your memory can do 5-5-4-14?
Set you memory to 1:1, 5-5-5-15 and you should be able to OC more.
treatmentx
08-01-07, 03:14 AM
I'll try it, but my memory is suppose to be DDR7200 (900MHZ), 4-4-3-15, 2t.. I talked to some OCZ reps, they didn't comment on "why" my memory was labeled PC-5300, but the Timings table has it properly listed as that way... only told me that they should be able to run at 900MHZ.
Anyway, right now I have my memory unlinked. 1488FSB, 861MHZ memory speed.
What should I set it to?
(screen shot below)
orion456
08-01-07, 03:23 AM
Interesting memory, so it should be good til fsb 450? Try setting 1:1, Intel is most efficient there anyway. Also set 5-5-5-15, it won't hurt your speed any and might add some stability, even 6-6-6-20 is worth a try.
I hope that serial # isn't trying to tell you something! FFFFFFF
Treamentx, get this beta CPUZ 1.40.8 HERE (http://www.cpuid.com/beta/cpuz.zip), I think it has an updated SPD display.
I posted this topic at Hard Forum and someone suggested to RMA the board. Do you think that the board is the problem here?
Evilsizer
08-01-07, 10:00 AM
nvm i got some posts mixed up.
to the OP i dont think there is anything wrong with the board. when i ran my ab9-pro and i ran certian voltages from the bios. i would get a sieren type sound from the built in pc speaker. boot up like normal into windows load up easytune and check the screen for alerts when you go to high on the voltages. that might be it or it could be a alarm for the temps.
GTengineer
08-01-07, 10:02 AM
I don't see anything about command rate though.
I am pretty sure you can only set command rate in nVidia 600's mobos
jason4207
08-01-07, 10:05 AM
there is nothing wrong with the motherboard, some memore resellers just dont update the speed. they test the ram for a certian speed/timings then go in and add there name in the SPD timings table.
Evilsizer - I think your confusing the OP w/ the high-jacked post.
Nolife is having a problem upping his FSB just a little over stock, while Treatmentx has the weird SPD table.
Edit: I see you just discovered this as well.:beer:
jason4207
08-01-07, 10:12 AM
nolife - You could try setting all your voltages manually.
Figure out what your default CPU & memory voltages are, and then set all the voltages in the BIOS manually instead of leaving them on AUTO.
The MoBo may be bad, but if it works fine at default settings, I'm not sure how an RMA would work.
treatmentx
08-01-07, 10:39 AM
damn silicon slinging memory chip makers, update the damn speed! j/k j/k
I'm at a stable 3.26GHZ and 800 4-4-3-14, i don't think i wanna mess with it lol. Maybe a week later, i'll lap the sucker, then I'll have to re-do everything anyways.
Oh, you can't RMA the board. With EVGA, you can send the board back for a different revision, which corrects it. Asus unfortunately there isn't a revision, so they won't RMA it. It's just the design of all 680i boards I hear... after hours reading online
GTengineer
08-01-07, 10:43 AM
damn silicon slinging memory chip makers, update the damn speed! j/k j/k
I'm at a stable 3.26GHZ and 800 4-4-3-14, i don't think i wanna mess with it lol. Maybe a week later, i'll lap the sucker, then I'll have to re-do everything anyways.
Oh, you can't RMA the board. With EVGA, you can send the board back for a different revision, which corrects it. Asus unfortunately there isn't a revision, so they won't RMA it. It's just the design of all 680i boards I hear... after hours reading online
treatment I wouldnt lap that cpu if you have a mobo FSB wall anyway. It is not like you will be able to get it to OC higher by lapping it anyway unless you get a new mobo. You will void warranty and resale value and your temps seem pretty good anyway. .... just a though :beer:
P.S. I had an Asus 650i and sold it on eBay to get my P35 since I didn't care for SLI and I wanted to be ready for quads. That's one option if you want to kick it higher.
treatmentx
08-01-07, 11:06 AM
GT-yea, that's true. I don't plan on re-selling the Q6600, I think it'll end up in my family-room PC one day (has an Athlon XP 2800+ right now lol), and it's more for cooling than for clocking (stupid board... *roar*!)
Yeah, I've thought about the ebay route, but i got the board for $300 and it's only going for $100 or so...then replacing it with a ~$230 board, the finances works out to be a bigger loss than my $500 E6700 selling at $230 and replacing with $300 chip.
That would be, me having a $430 board, and a $570 chip... or spending $130 more on a board vs spending $70 more on a board.
And I did some heavy data collecting before letting go my E6700... and I feel like the frames gained doesn't justify the extra 600MHZ that I might be able to squeeze out (1.5fps gained)
jason4207
08-01-07, 11:35 AM
Oh, you can't RMA the board. With EVGA, you can send the board back for a different revision, which corrects it. Asus unfortunately there isn't a revision, so they won't RMA it. It's just the design of all 680i boards I hear... after hours reading online
OP has a Gigabyte board. Not sure of their RMA policy, though.
chiefdanny
08-01-07, 12:09 PM
nolife i have the same board and the samething happen to me set ram to +3 volts,same timing 5,5,5,15 or 18,cpu to 1.3000v bus to 334X9 3,009 RAM 2.5xmultiplier and one more setting i can not thank of now:)
Wow thank you. I did everything you said except set the ram voltage to +.2volts and now it is booting at 2.7 runnning prime right now.
Thank you so much Danny!
GTengineer
08-01-07, 12:55 PM
Wow thank you. I did everything you said except set the ram voltage to +.2volts and now it is booting at 2.7 runnning prime right now.
Thank you so much Danny!
Not sure if you know but the reference voltage for the memory is 1.8V in the BIOS.
shirker
08-01-07, 01:16 PM
@nolife you had the memory running at motherboard stock volts (1.8v) the whole time? you do know that patriot extreme performance is designed to be run at 2.2v, right?
I am new to overclocking and whne I overclocked my old AMD 64 3000+ I didn't mess around with any voltages but was able to get a 600mhz increase with the stock cooler. I figured I could do the same with the Q6600 withe the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme.
jason4207
08-01-07, 01:24 PM
It sounds like you should take it up to +.4v to allow you to really see what your system can do!
shirker
08-01-07, 01:32 PM
I am new to overclocking and whne I overclocked my old AMD 64 3000+ I didn't mess around with any voltages but was able to get a 600mhz increase with the stock cooler. there's a first time for everything :beer:
at 2.1v or even 2.2v, that patriot eXtreme performance memory you have should handle MUCH lower timings at DDR2-800 speeds. they are highly overclockable as well, and should easily operate well above 450mhz with loosened timings
Alright I will look into overclocking the memory. Thanks so much everyone that helped, I really appreciate it. was getting quite frustrated. I don't know how high I will be able to get but right now I am at 2.92ghz and the EasyTune Program that came with the mobo is reading 46 degrees with 100% cpu usage. I hope I can get at least 3.0ghz.
richklein
08-01-07, 10:07 PM
So is the Gigabyte board not a great overclocking board? I havent purchased yet (as the newegg stock market is up & down all the time), but that was the board I was looking at.
I was aiming for 333fsb on some decent air cooling. The Gigabyte board isnt the one?
Well I have heard other people getting great clocks with it which is why I went with this board but I myself have gotten 330fsb stable and when I try 334 I can get to the vista loading screen and then after that is just blck and won't go to the login screen. But 330 is 2.97 which is only 30mhz slower than what I was aiming for.
GT3mich
08-01-07, 10:34 PM
I have the same board and knew the ram voltage was going to be too low. That and the timings were the 1st thing I changed. Right now I've been running my CPU at 2.7 ghz with temps around 52 C, air cooled. Its fast enough for me.
chiefdanny
08-02-07, 06:32 AM
nolife how is the overclocking going i`am at 3009 ram at 4-4-4-12 2.1v cpu volts under load 1.237 occt stable need to get better cooling have about 4 coolers need to try each one working 12 hours a day 14 days what is your temps with your cooler.So far this is a good board like the 8 sata ports.
The board is fine i have the same one with Q6600 B3 425 X 7 1.3vcore memory 425 2.2V (+4) 4-4-4-12 runing nicely just problems with my cpu cooling ruining too hot :(
I can't go any farther than 2.97 it seems being stable. And if I change the timings of the ram it seems to not to boot. Same if I change the multiplier to get better ram speed. So right now I am at 330fsb x9 multiplier, ram timings of 5-5-5-12 2.2vs. CPU voltage is at 1.296 according to CPU-Z and in the bios I have then set for 1.350. My temps are good I think, idle i am at 33 and load I am at 50 or so.
man I have tried the same setup as yours and it worked except my temps were like 45 idle and 65 load on 1.3 vcore set in bios i dunno what gives.....
I just wish my memory would be able to overclock better. If I choose 3.0 multipler 975 for memory it doesen't want to work very well. and I don't think there are any options between 2.5 and 3.0 (at least that I can remember).
Just an update on my ocing. I was able to get 3.2ghz stable at 1.4125 volts(according to bios), 1.36v according to CPU-Z. But I set the multiplier down to 2 and got 1:1 ratio. It is OCCT stable with memory at 5-5-5-11 2.2v, 356. I might try 400x8. my temps are about 35 idle and 53 load. under load Core 0 and 1 are about 62 and core 2 and 3 are about 59.
GT3mich
08-05-07, 05:36 PM
Can some one explain why CPU-z can't read the multiplier right?
Sometimes when I start it up it reads right then a few seconds later it switches to this.
The SIW screen is the right one for info.
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/GT3mich/cpuz1.jpg
that is caused by speedstep. If I understand correctly, speedstep sets the multiplier down to x6.0 when your system is idle to save power or something.
Yes but it's CIE and EIST I do believe. One changes the multiplier and the other changes the vCore but ususally doen't work when you go over VID on vCore.
Your OC isn't to bad. Considering you are running 2x2GB sticks I wouldn't expect them to OC very well if at all over it's spec'd speeds.
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