critique this rig

[liftedcj7on44s]

Ok been out of the loop for a while. as you can see from my sig that my current rig is pretty decent. I have plans of giving this rig to my father when he gets back from guantanamo bay cuba. so far this is what i have come up with to get.

processor-- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

mobo- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131074
if not that mobo then i am gonna get the new dfi board coming out

memory-- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16820220227

power supply--
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16817714001

vid card- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16814130082

now im dead set on the processor,memory,power supply, and video card. also i may be able to get better prices somewhere else i just used the egg to get everything sorted out. so tell me what you guys think and i am open to suggestions. O for hdd's i plan to run 4 320 gig seagate perps.

[GTengineer]

I would go with a 6850 simply because they are the top dual cores and probably higher binned and may overclock better.

If you are not doing SLI forget about the 680i and go with a P35, GA-P35-DS3R, ABIT IP35 or Asus P5K Deluxe. All are great boards just find the one with the extra features you need.

Those are my thoughts.... I cannot really comment on the other stuff though

EDIT: The PSU seems like extreme overkill, I would get a solid but lower wattage PSU and upgrade the video card to a 640MB.

[liftedcj7on44s]

i may go sli in the future, or i may not but i want the availabilty of it if i can if you know what i mean
ok just saw that 6850 is only 319. so that going on there now! i try to stay in a budget of 300 per piece if i can so 319 will be ok

[shirker]

that psu is completely overkill. just get a Corsair 620HX, that will be enough for even a e6850 and 8800gts. good memory choice by the way, patriot extreme performance memory is highly overclockable, and those are some of the better 2x2GB kits you can buy

[jason4207]

I'd get the P5K Premium, the x32x0 (G0), and 2x1GB of Ballistix. A siverstone Zeus or PC Power & Cooling 750W, and the 320MB eVGA 8800 (unless you're running high-res, then the 8800 640 or GTX). For HDDs get (6) 250GB 1 platter Barracudas, and put them in Matrix RAID 0/5 (20GB slice of every HDD fro RAID 0).

It'll probably cost around the same and you will have much better performance in every area I think.

[liftedcj7on44s]

well i paid 230 buks when my ocz memory came out for 2gb so for that price for 4gb thats a great deal. as for the power supply its the one thing i dont want to skimp out on. im gonna be running 4 hdd's 2 cd burners 2 dvd burners. im gonna have alot of stuff in this rig. so i just need to make sure its stable and yes i will be overclocking it as much as humanly possible. water cooling will be for a later date.

[shirker]

well i paid 230 buks when my ocz memory came out for 2gb so for that price for 4gb thats a great deal. as for the power supply its the one thing i dont want to skimp out on. im gonna be running 4 hdd's 2 cd burners 2 dvd burners. im gonna have alot of stuff in this rig. so i just need to make sure its stable and yes i will be overclocking it as much as humanly possible. water cooling will be for a later date.I'd highly recommend a 750w PC Power & Cooling PSU. they make some of the best PSUs, and their 750w PSU can handle much much more than the build you have in mind. It won't even break a sweat if you overclock everything to the absolute max..

[jason4207]

Do whatcha wanna do man. I just know what I'd do w/ that amount of $.

You can get 2GB of great RAM for $70-$80 AR right now. 4GB is overkill in my opinion for most people, but you have a lot of stars, so you probably know what you need. Video editors or heavy CAD users can use it. That PSU is definitely overkill IMO. I think you could run 2 8800GTXs, a quad core, 4GB RAM, 6 HDDs and 4 optical drives off the PC P&C 750, but if I had unlimited funds to spend I might not worry about the bang-for-the-buck as much.

Anyway you look at it you're going to be building an awesome rig! Please keep us posted on how it turns out.:beer:

edit: whoops...I fixed it!

[liftedcj7on44s]

only reason im gonna run 4 is i will be playing around with vista alot. vista on the rig i have now with 2gb uses alot of it. can you give me a link to the hard drives you were talking about?

[shirker]

only reason im gonna run 4 is i will be playing around with vista alot. vista on the rig i have now with 2gb uses alot of it. can you give me a link to the hard drives you were talking about?they're seagate 7200.10 drives, model number ST3250410AS

[jason4207]

Check out the Matrix RAID thread in the storage sub-forum!

[jason4207]

only reason im gonna run 4 is i will be playing around with vista alot. vista on the rig i have now with 2gb uses alot of it. can you give me a link to the hard drives you were talking about?

Understand about the VISTA. I'm still running XP, but I played w/ the Beta VISTA a little. 600MB! I'm planning on doing a dual-boot w/ VISTA eventually, but only b/c certain games demand it. I'm still not sold on it, though. It took me a while to go to XP from 2000 as well. Once I start playing w/ it I may start thinking 4GB is better, but I haven't read anything to support that.

Here's the link:

Barracuda! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148262)

[liftedcj7on44s]

well im gonna do some more research tomorrow night after work and make a decision within a few days or so. the rig i have now i built when everything just came out so it costed me an arm and a leg. i may wait a little while longer to see if prices drop anymore. thanks for the advise and i will let you guys know what im gonna do. right now im looking at 1884.90 for everything i have picked out so far. also i know about matrix raid and i may go that way. with the prices of hdd's these days it would be dumb not too i guess. i see your from concord im from oak island nc myself.

[jason4207]

Seriously consider the x32x0 (G0) Xeons as well. Similar price range, and possibly the s#!t.

[liftedcj7on44s]

ok i will look into them.

[jason4207]

well im gonna do some more research tomorrow night after work and make a decision within a few days or so. the rig i have now i built when everything just came out so it costed me an arm and a leg. i may wait a little while longer to see if prices drop anymore. thanks for the advise and i will let you guys know what im gonna do. right now im looking at 1884.90 for everything i have picked out so far. also i know about matrix raid and i may go that way. with the prices of hdd's these days it would be dumb not too i guess. i see your from concord im from oak island nc myself.

I think those Barracudas are going for $60 somewhere right now...I think I saw it in the cyberdeals section...not sure.

Oak Island...Is that near South Port? I dated a girl from there once..Tamara. I pretty much grew up in Winston, and went to UNC-Charlotte. Living in Concord now w/ the wife and kid.

[liftedcj7on44s]

yeah southport and oak island are pretty much the same place if you ask me. ok so ill tell tamara you miss her ok! lol j/k well i am off to bed myself. thanks for the help!

[jason4207]

MWave (http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?SCriteria=AA71142) has them for $60, but shipping is $6. Still cheaper than the Egg, and if you get 4-6 of them you'd save a decent chunk of change.

[jason4207]

yeah southport and oak island are pretty much the same place if you ask me. ok so ill tell tamara you miss her ok! lol j/k well i am off to bed myself. thanks for the help!

Tamara!!!!!!!! LOL!!!!!! :beer:

[liftedcj7on44s]

ok after doing some more looking around on the egg, why dont i just get the core 2 q6600 quad then the 6850. cheaper than the 6850 as well. also i do alot of video encoding so i need as much processor speed as possible, how do the quad's overclock? i multitask alot too.

[WhatTheSchmidt]

lol if u do video encoding hell yea get the quad instead

change that PSU, i hate seeing people buying 1000+ watts, makes no sense they will probably be using half that.

also what the hell warrants 300 on a mobo? w/e though

[liftedcj7on44s]

im going to look at some more psu's tomorrow for my day off. my just get another ocz like i have if i can find one!

[shirker]

ok after doing some more looking around on the egg, why dont i just get the core 2 q6600 quad then the 6850. cheaper than the 6850 as well. also i do alot of video encoding so i need as much processor speed as possible, how do the quad's overclock? i multitask alot too.why didn't you say so earlier? :p
most, if not all major video encoding programs that I know of can utilize all four cores on a quad-core processor, x264 for example. all i can say is, you'd be doing yourself a disservice by buying a dual core over a quad core.

G0 Q6600s can overclock to around 3.5GHz on air, slightly more with water-cooling. given that a 2.4GHz Q6600 beats a 3GHz E6850 by a significant margin, a Q6600 running at 3.4GHz+ will put any dual-core to shame when encoding

[liftedcj7on44s]

yeah well i did'nt do enough "research" on the egg. But yeah quad for sure then.

[piraterocker7]

just make sure you get the G0 stepping of the q6600, you'll probably have to get it from somewhere other than newegg though cause they don't give a choice of stepping. if you already knew that i'm sorry, but just making sure you don't get screwed out of a sweet processor

[Swatman]

question. is your dad *in* guantanamo bay, or is he stationed there lol

[liftedcj7on44s]

ok doing some motherboard research today and all the new motherboards only seem to have 6 onboard sata ports. i need 8 onboard like my a8n-sli premium has. so i need a highly overclockable motherboard that has 8 onboard sata ports. no raid cards wanted either!

[shirker]

ok doing some motherboard research today and all the new motherboards only seem to have 6 onboard sata ports. i need 8 onboard like my a8n-sli premium has. so i need a highly overclockable motherboard that has 8 onboard sata ports. no raid cards wanted either!
that's a no brainer. Gigabyte P35-DS3R/DS3P, or the high end P35-DQ6

[liftedcj7on44s]

o my dad is stationed in guantanamo bay. so that gigabyte board clocks well? i am a asus man myself but i guess it wouldnt hurt to try another! o reason for 8 ports is 4 for dvd drives and 4 for hdd's

[jason4207]

I think just about all the P35 chipset MoBos w/ ICH9R southbridge have eight Sata ports. Six on the ICH9R southbridge, and two additional on a Jmicron (or equivalent). You can RAID or Matrix RAID (0/1/0+1/5) up to 6 together on the ICH9R, and RAID (0/1) on the Jmicron controller.

[jason4207]

You could get a couple IDE DVD drives and use the onboard PATA port.

[liftedcj7on44s]

i know i know. your also gonna say that sata drives wont benefit anything but i will not go pata if sata is available. plus if i use all 4 drives at one time then pata would be a pain. that's why i need sata drives.

[jason4207]

I've heard of people having problems if they run RAID and have optical drives on the same controller. Just a heads up in case it starts acting weird on ya.

[shirker]

so that gigabyte board clocks well? i am a asus man myself but i guess it wouldnt hurt to try another! o reason for 8 ports is 4 for dvd drives and 4 for hdd'sthe gigabyte boards I mentioned more or less overclock as well as any given P35 board above $150. They're my only recommendation if you insist on having 8 SATA ports though