Cooler Master CM690 Review

[thideras]

Hello!

I just received my Cooler Master CM690 in the mail today, there are a few guides out there for this case, but I decided to write one just for OCF. This review will be based more on pictures instead of impressions. So if it seems short, I wanted it that way.

You can pick this case up for around $59.99 at newegg:\
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119137

A friend recently got this case and I got to check it out first person before buying it; I was impressed by the entire case. It had alot of room for a "mid" tower and good tool-less devices. I was so impressed by it that I ordered one later that night.

Enough talking, let see some pics!!! :D

Here are a few pictures of the box, front and back:

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No one is really interested about the outside of the box...it is all about what is inside.

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With everything unwrapped, here is what the case looks like. I like its design very much, there is mesh that goes up the front and along the top. Behind the mesh, there are filters for the fans.

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[thideras]

On to the inside! Cooler Master did a good job of not including very much inside the case. There is a white box with a manual, 3.5in mesh bezel, motherboard standoffs and a tie down for cables.

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If you open the other side of the case, you will be confronted with something you probably have not ever seen on a case; a place for a 80mm fan!

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Please not that the fan I installed is a 80x25mm fan, to be able to put the side back on you have to use a 80x15mm fan. I did not have one on hand that fit in.




You must be wondering now..."Where are the case screws????".

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Right there! The case itself holds the screws, this would be very nice if you forgot your screws at home (if you were at a friends house or lan).




Tool-less installation of the 5.25 bays. You push the blue tab to the left, lift up the flap, install the drive, drop the flap back down and lock it. Very simple and easy to use, it holds drives very securely. The only issue I ran into was with a fan controller, it just uses the first pin and didn't hold it very well. Even with the tool-less system in place, you can still use screws very easily. When you put the 5.25 device in, it doesn't feel snug (like on an armor) and you can move the drive around easily. Once you lock down the tool-less device, it is decently snug, but I opted to just put screws in.

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[thideras]

Tool-less installation of the 3.5 bays. The case holds up to 5 hard drives which are next to a fan (set as default as intake). To remove the tray, you push the tabs together and the tray slides out.

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To install the drive into the tray, you simply bend the tray, drop the drive in and unbend it.

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Here are the rest of the tool-less devices. For the PCI slots, you push down on the "arc" while pushing it back through the case. The first time you do it, it seems awkward, but it quickly becomes easy.

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[thideras]

Time to remove the front and top panels to get a better look at how this case is built. To pop the front off, you just pull, there are no tabs to push (unlike the top). I thought I was going to break it at first, but it came off with a jolt, the front was unbroken. To remove the top, there are 8 tabs that you need to push in.

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Here are some pictures comparing the case size to my modified armor.

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[thideras]

Power supply installation is exactly like all other cases except it is at the bottom instead of the top. Cooler Master also include a foam pad to eliminate vibrations from the power supply. The power supply I used is the Corsair HX620W, which is a regular sized PSU. With a 120mm fan installed, I could get the plugs in with little difficulty. This may prove troublesome to those who have longer power supplies. Without the fan (or a smaller fan installed) there are no obstructions, so they will fit.

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Now pictures of everything assembled. I removed the front sound header from the top. It just pops out and you can

do that with the sound, usb and firewire. Sadly the eSata can't be removed, so it is just sitting tied up in the
top of the case. I have a very large heatsink (TT 120 Ultra Extreme) and found that it hits the fans in the top of

the case (stopping one of them) and will not allow installation of a fan in the second door slot.

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[thideras]

Conclusion:

The case is larger and roomier than most mid-tower cases. The tool-less devices ACTUALLY WORK in this case unlike others (*cough* armor *cough*). Users who have long power supplies or large heatsinks will have to "work around" the problem. I could mount a fan on the outside of the case, but it would detract from the look. This case is a steal for $50 or even $60. The case's cooling is where it lacks. It has spots for up to 7 120mm fans, but they use VERY restrictive mesh and "finger guards". My temps rose on my processer by around 3c, but it is worth it for the smaller case.

I give it 4 out of 5 dragons!

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If you want to see much large pictures than what I've shown, I uploaded them straight from my camera! Password is "thideras5288" to view.

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Comments appreciated!!!! :D

[imposter]

perhaps you should add a "56k massacre" edit.

Pretty nice thideras, Im supprised you didnt pain it stealth black. OR is it in the making?

just one question, is the case elevated at all? cuz the fan on the base of the case seems pointless.

other than that good job =)

[ancalime]

Hey thanks for the review thideras. There are certainly many unique features inside this little mid tower. I want to order one but I just have no need for a case. :(

[thideras]

perhaps you should add a "56k massacre" edit.

Pretty nice thideras, Im supprised you didnt pain it stealth black. OR is it in the making?

just one question, is the case elevated at all? cuz the fan on the base of the case seems pointless.

other than that good job =)For now, I won't paint the case; it might be a couple months down the road or never, I just don't know :(

Yes, the case is elevated around an 1", that is way more than enough for that bottom fan to do its job. I should also note that this case DOES NOT use plastic feet, it uses rubber! It grips very well.

[thideras]

Update: CPU temps may have gone up, but Idle temps on the graphics card has gone down by 2c. It looks like load temps on the video card have gone down by 1c.

[d4m0n]

Nice pics. FYI, I've got the same case (picked it up a week or so ago from Fry's) and it has plenty of room to use both 120x120x25mm door panel fans and still clear my TR Ultima-90 with a little under a centimeter to spare. I haven't installed any fans in the top of the case, but it doesn't look like I'll have any clearance issues there either.

In the mail on it's way from Jab-Tech I've got:

4 x Yate Loon 140mm (62 CFM) - D14SM-12
2 x Yate Loon 120mm (47 CFM) w/blue leds - D12SL-12
2 x Panaflo H1BX (56.8 CFM)

All I've got to do now is decide on a good fan controller and pick up a dremel to hack out those stamped fan grilles. :beer:

[thideras]

Nice pics. FYI, I've got the same case (picked it up a week or so ago from Fry's) and it has plenty of room to use both 120x120x25mm door panel fans and still clear my TR Ultima-90 by a little under a centimeter. I haven't installed any fans in the top of the case, but it doesn't look like I'll have any clearance issued their either.

In the mail on it's way from Jab-Tech I've got:

4 x Yate Loon 140mm (62 CFM) - D14SM-12
2 x Yate Loon 120mm (47 CFM) w/blue leds - D12SL-12
2 x Panaflo H1BX (56.8 CFM)

All I've got to do now is decide on a good fan controller and pick up a dremel to hack out those stamped fan grilles. :beer:Look for a Sunbeam Rhoebus, 20 watts a channel, works great ;)

[d4m0n]

oops. double post.

[Rattle]

this is a sweet case, nice review and pics :)

[badvector]

Thanks for the info on the heatsink clearance. I still need to order one and I was wondering about the clearance from the side door fan with the Ultra 120. Already dremeled out the front fan grill. I'm debating on the top grills. I don't want to hurt the integrity of the case structure and that's a lot of metal to cut. In theory, the plastic cover should help to hold it in shape though. It really is a super case for the price.

[thideras]

Thanks for the info on the heatsink clearance. I still need to order one and I was wondering about the clearance from the side door fan with the Ultra 120. Already dremeled out the front fan grill. I'm debating on the top grills. I don't want to hurt the integrity of the case structure and that's a lot of metal to cut. In theory, the plastic cover should help to hold it in shape though. It really is a super case for the price.You can cut the top ones out, you won't hurt the case ;)

But...if your case starts bleeding, you've got other problems.

[UglyChild]

Looks nice on the outside, but on the inside; its still made out of dog food tin can.

[Elluzion]

I don't think it is very appealing to the eye on the outside. Needs to be more open if you know what I mean. The functionality seems just like any other case. Not bad for the price. But im still goin with the antec 900

[d4m0n]

Look for a Sunbeam Rhoebus, 20 watts a channel, works great ;)

Thanks. Ordered. :bday:

[Rattle]

I don't think it is very appealing to the eye on the outside. Needs to be more open if you know what I mean. The functionality seems just like any other case. Not bad for the price. But im still goin with the antec 900

i dunno man, the functionality isnt really just like any other case. Most cases are a joke when it comes to that. Having had a antec 900 and many other cases, the antec was somewhat of a letdown. I went to compusa and dismantled this coolermaster case infront of them because I wanted to check it out then to their amazement lol and then i didnt buy one haha.

Point is this case is AWESOME, if it was me I would pick this over the antec 900 even if they were the same price. Who knows maybe you like it though, I found it way to cramped and hard to manage wires and it was kinda cheesy build wise. In the end though it was an excellent cooling case.

[gigabit]

I just ordered mine from Clubit 10 minutes ago.$69.00 with free ground shipping.Thats $10 cheaper than newegg and zipfly.Next week ill order few more fans and a Sunbeam Rhoebus .Then ill be set.Nice review thideras

[juane414]

This case would be great if you have a heatsink that faces the top of the case rather than the back... You wouldn't have to worry about special mounting kits for it and with the PSU on the bottom the hot air blows straight out! This definitely looks like a top notch case for air cooling. I have the same problem as a ancalime... no need for a case! Bummer :(

[gigabit]

Im gonna throw a 2x120 rad up top

[Michael Warren]

I just ordered one from newegg last night along with 3 120mm fans. I mainly needed a new cause because my small antec case doesn't have enough room for a gemin2 and the air cooling sucks in my case.

[UnrealAlex]

I got this case as well. It's alright but not anything great in my opinion.
1)I had trouble installing the PSU, I really had to use force to push the psu to make all the screw holes align with the case.
2)The hole for wire management that is located by the psu at the bottom, is too close to the PSU and I can only fit in a couple of wires in because of this. You could cut out a bit more I geuss if you had the tools.
3) The HD cage is not perfect, I couldn't completely lock my HD in place because the HD cage blocked the PSU power connector on the hard drive, so I pushed the HD back a bit.
4)The power button is really strange. You have to push it a certain way to make the pc turn on.
Some small nuissances, nothing big really, but still.

Also most of the fan slots on this case accomodate 140mm fans.

Again, it's alright, pretty roomy, have not had a chance to test out the airflow yet because the fans I ordered did not come.

[gigabit]

Now im mad..lol But it has to better than my Ultra Aluminus.

[thideras]

I got this case as well. It's alright but not anything great in my opinion.
1)I had trouble installing the PSU, I really had to use force to push the psu to make all the screw holes align with the case.
2)The hole for wire management that is located by the psu at the bottom, is too close to the PSU and I can only fit in a couple of wires in because of this. You could cut out a bit more I geuss if you had the tools.
3) The HD cage is not perfect, I couldn't completely lock my HD in place because the HD cage blocked the PSU power connector on the hard drive, so I pushed the HD back a bit.
4)The power button is really strange. You have to push it a certain way to make the pc turn on.
Some small nuissances, nothing big really, but still.

Also most of the fan slots on this case accomodate 140mm fans.

Again, it's alright, pretty roomy, have not had a chance to test out the airflow yet because the fans I ordered did not come.Ah, thank you, that is what I forgot :D

1) I actually didn't have to for mine, I think I have larger screws
2) Again, I had a smaller PSU, so mine wasn't blocked at all.
3) Correct, if your HDD's have a molex on the extreme left or right, you won't be able to push them all the way back.
4) Correct, you have to push it sideways ;)

[UnrealAlex]

Dont get me wrong, its a pretty good case. Those are just small nuissances, I'm sure every case has its nuissances xD
I will post a pic once I get my fans and finish the wire management

[Thund3rball]

Nice job thideras! Makes me want this case even more but it's like $20 more in Canada :mad:

[UnrealAlex]

Here is mine wire managed.
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Cant make it any cleaner :(

[gigabit]

Looks great.What kind of temps are you getting with this case and that Ultima-90?

[thideras]

VERY nice, much better than mine.

I'll tear mine apart again to cut some fan grills out (top, back, bottom and front) to increase the airflow and lower noise.

[UnrealAlex]

Well with the stock Intel HSF and with the Centurion 5 case, the CPU load temp was 70c. Now it's 44C. My video card card temp went down by around 5C as well I think.

Also this case is more quiet because all the fan slots accommodate 120mm-140mm fans, which are quieter than the 92mm fans.
I'm pretty happy with it :D

Also I don't have the top USB and audio ports plugged in and probably wont ever, so I have less wires to deal with.

[baggedmazda]

so will this fit the 120 xtreme? I ordered mine still sitting at my moms house forgot to change the damn shipping :bang head address now thats a 2 hour drive that is worth something i guess :bang head

[thideras]

so will this fit the 120 xtreme? I ordered mine still sitting at my moms house forgot to change the damn shipping :bang head address now thats a 2 hour drive that is worth something i guess :bang headYes, you can see in my pictures that I have a 120 ultra extreme. You just won't be able to put a fan internally on that spot.

[UnrealAlex]

Since I have an ultima-90 which is smaller I think I may be able to fit a fan there. My question is would it help or would it just screw up the airflow? I may test it out.

[thideras]

Since I have an ultima-90 which is smaller I think I may be able to fit a fan there. My question is would it help or would it just screw up the airflow? I may test it out.Even if I was able to put a fan there, I wouldn't. The heatsink is split half and half, so having it as intake out exhaust would screw it up.

[Huriel]

Hi, do you think that a two-fan radiator (for wc cololing) could be placed between the upper pierced cover and case upper-plate? Or do you think that i have to cut a piece of the upper-sheet?

[thideras]

Hi, do you think that a two-fan radiator (for wc cololing) could be placed between the upper pierced cover and case upper-plate? Or do you think that i have to cut a piece of the upper-sheet?It would fit easily if you put it inside the case. The only issue is it is not spaced correctly for a "just bolt it in" method. You would have to drill some holes.

The other issue with that spot for a radiator is the fan grills are very restrictive. This would cause higher temps. You can fix both those issues, but you will have to do some cutting a drilling.

And to answer the main question, no, it will not fit above the case and under the mesh, there is simply not enough space unless you had a REALLY thin radiator.

[ffzen]

Hey, was wondering when yall installed the 120mm fan on the bottom,
what did yall use to hold it? Just regular screws?

Or did yall take the side fan and screws and use that on the bottom?

[UnrealAlex]

I didn't even use screws, I just put it there lol. Not like it will be moving a round a lot.

[bigdaddyTank]

Thanks for the review, I just ordered one. Is there a 12 step program for people who have case addictions?

[gigabit]

Hey, was wondering when yall installed the 120mm fan on the bottom,
what did yall use to hold it? Just regular screws?

Or did yall take the side fan and screws and use that on the bottom?

Dude it clips in.
Nice review
http://www.ninjalane.com/display.aspx?docname=cm690

[S1n3p]

this case is the by far the best bang for $59.95 case out there. My one and only complaint about it is the lack of clear sided panel since I'm sure many of us have the habit of peeking inside the case occasionally to see how our babies are doing.

[thideras]

Dude it clips in.
Nice review
http://www.ninjalane.com/display.aspx?docname=cm690Actually, no. It doesn't clip in, that is for the 140mm fan. For the 120, you have to screw it in ;)

[kylebussen]

3) The HD cage is not perfect, I couldn't completely lock my HD in place because the HD cage blocked the PSU power connector on the hard drive, so I pushed the HD back a bit.


Just a tip for those having this problem. I just took a pair of pliers and bent the bottom wall out. Allows it to slide completely back and you wont even see it with the side on.

[IAmMoen]

Well I am mad. I have all the stuff I need to build a computer except for 9 things. 9 standoffs which didn't come with the case. WTH. I had to wait till the weekend to be able to put it all together and I have all the stuff open up and spread out and then I was like "step one: standoffs. Wait a second. Where are the standoffs. Son of a ...." Grrrr.

[thideras]

Well I am mad. I have all the stuff I need to build a computer except for 9 things. 9 standoffs which didn't come with the case. WTH. I had to wait till the weekend to be able to put it all together and I have all the stuff open up and spread out and then I was like "step one: standoffs. Wait a second. Where are the standoffs. Son of a ...." Grrrr.It didn't have any????? WTF. That is very strange.

[gigabit]

Well I am mad. I have all the stuff I need to build a computer except for 9 things. 9 standoffs which didn't come with the case. WTH. I had to wait till the weekend to be able to put it all together and I have all the stuff open up and spread out and then I was like "step one: standoffs. Wait a second. Where are the standoffs. Son of a ...." Grrrr.
That sucks.You dont have any from any other case's.I know i have a few extra

[thideras]

That sucks.You dont have any from any other case's.I know i have a few extraYou have to watch how high they are, they are not all the same and can throw the height off ;)

[IAmMoen]

It didn't have any????? WTF. That is very strange.

The bag that was included (I can see it the other pix) just wasn't in the box. None. Zip.

That sucks.You dont have any from any other case's.I know i have a few extra

No I don't have any extras unfortunately. Well I might have a couple but nowhere NEAR the 9 I would need.

[gigabit]

You have to watch how high they are, they are not all the same and can throw the height off ;)

Hmm i didnt know that.Thanks for the heads up.Ill be careful not to mix them

The bag that was included (I can see it the other pix) just wasn't in the box. None. Zip.



No I don't have any extras unfortunately. Well I might have a couple but nowhere NEAR the 9 I would need.

you could probably get away with like 5.one in each corner and one in the middle to help support the mobo

[IAmMoen]

You have to watch how high they are, they are not all the same and can throw the height off ;)

Thanks for the heads up. I posted a wtb thread in the classies because I can't call cm or newegg as they aren't open on weekends. I will modify my classifieds entry

Hmm i didnt know that.Thanks for the heads up.Ill be careful not to mix them



you could probably get away with like 5.one in each corner and one in the middle to help support the mobo

Though that may be true I would eventually want to put the other 4 in and that would require taking it all out again. Not worth it in my opinion.

I just called my local computer shop and they said they can probably find some laying around. Will have to make sure they are the right height though....

[gigabit]

Thanks for the heads up. I posted a wtb thread in the classies because I can't call cm or newegg as they aren't open on weekends. I will modify my classifieds entry



Though that may be true I would eventually want to put the other 4 in and that would require taking it all out again. Not worth it in my opinion.

I just called my local computer shop and they said they can probably find some laying around. Will have to make sure they are the right height though....

Thats true id be the same way.

[IAmMoen]

Well I FINALLY got ahold of cooler master. Called monday and got the answering machine, called twice yesterday, the person I was trying to reach was out of the office... Hmmm. I sent an email and called them earlier this morning. Nothing. Just called them AGAIN. I talked to a real person and she was "just reading my email" which very well may be true. She is now checking the availability of the standoffs. Well they better have 9 lying around because they forgot the ones for my case!

[S1n3p]

it's strange that you had a hard time trying to reach them. I called yesterday and was immediately connected to a female operator that sounded like she was gonna snap on the phone due to sickness. anyways, good luck on the issue.

[aja]

You have to watch how high they are, they are not all the same and can throw the height off ;)

And some standoffs use HDD/case screws and some use CD-drive screws!

Yeah makes you want to throw the whole damn thing away when you strip the screws and they get stuck in the standoffs...

[thideras]

And some standoffs use HDD/case screws and some use CD-drive screws!

Yeah makes you want to throw the whole damn thing away when you strip the screws and they get stuck in the standoffs...Yup yup, I don't know why there isn't a standard....

Most of my cases can use the same ones, but I have a couple that are the same height, but take different screws...very annoying.

[gigabit]

yep my Aluminus has the same height stand off but take differnt screw's.It screwed me all up changing my system out.But it looks great and cant wait to get my New MCR 220 in this bad boy

[IAmMoen]

I have a question guys. That esata port on the top of the case. You need to have an Esata port on your mobo right and not just plug it into a sata port because of hotswapping right?

[thideras]

I have a question guys. That esata port on the top of the case. You need to have an Esata port on your mobo right and not just plug it into a sata port because of hotswapping right?You plug it into a SATA connection on the motherboard.

You should be able to set the drive as hot-swappable in the BIOS.

[IAmMoen]

You plug it into a SATA connection on the motherboard.

You should be able to set the drive as hot-swappable in the BIOS.

Is this for every motherboard? I just got a dfi infinity nf ultraII-m2.

[thideras]

Is this for every motherboard? I just got a dfi infinity nf ultraII-m2.Well, my 680i has that option to change any SATA port to eSATA. In Windows you can always set the drive as a non-cached drive.

[IAmMoen]

but the drive then has to be present right? You cant make a certain sata port always non-cache a drive can you?

[thideras]

but the drive then has to be present right? You cant make a certain sata port always non-cache a drive can you?You might be able to, I have no eSATA drives to test this on, sorry ;)

[aja]

but the drive then has to be present right? You cant make a certain sata port always non-cache a drive can you?

I think you are right there. Drive caching setting are drive specific, not connection specific. I think...

[baggedmazda]

i took mine out as i am not gona be useing it i can hardly fill up my 250

[bossman150]

Will this fit a PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad and still have room for the bottom fan? Its 7.1 inches deep. I am thinking it will just barely fit or just barely won't.

[gigabit]

My OCZ 520 is 6 5/8 inches and it fits fine.but i only have about 3/16 of an inch til it would hit the 140mm fan holder

[bossman150]

My OCZ 520 is 6 5/8 inches and it fits fine.but i only have about 3/16 of an inch til it would hit the 140mm fan holder

So worse case is I remove the 140mm fan holder and just put in a 120mm fan? I could live with that, I would miss the filter though lol.

[gigabit]

So worse case is I remove the 140mm fan holder and just put in a 120mm fan? I could live with that, I would miss the filter though lol.


Yep.But you could get a your own filter.I have a few i got off ebay for 6 bucks
http://cgi.ebay.com/120mm-High-Quality-Aluminum-Fan-Filter-Silver-Black_W0QQitemZ230180893020QQihZ013QQcategoryZ5105 6QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[baggedmazda]

strech panty hose it works well

[gigabit]

strech panty hose it works well
lol ive done that 2

[baggedmazda]

works good for under a buck and you can make more than 1 unless they start running i hate that

[aja]

strech panty hose it works well

Thanks for the tip, didn't think about that...

[gigabit]

Here are a few 80x15 fans for behind the mobo tray


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835224001

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835226002

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835224011

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835226001

[M Diddy]

One quick question which was somewhat answered.... Just need some clarifiaction (pics would be GREAT! :D)

Does the TR 120X block "both" of the 120 fans at the top from being used or only one? I figured as much there would be no way to mount a fan on the door with a 120 installed but I can't really tell at the top by the pictures.

Thanks much!

[thideras]

One quick question which was somewhat answered.... Just need some clarifiaction (pics would be GREAT! :D)

Does the TR 120X block "both" of the 120 fans at the top from being used or only one? I figured as much there would be no way to mount a fan on the door with a 120 installed but I can't really tell at the top by the pictures.

Thanks much!If you have it facing out the back, you run into clearance issues. Face it vertical (exhaust out the top) you won't have issues.

If you MUST run it horizontal, you can turn the heatsink clockwise about 15 degrees and it will clear. I'd just say run it vertical, better exhaust ;)


EDIT: Wait, are you talking about the door? If so, then yes, it only stops the top one from being installed, if you look at the photos where everything is assembled, you can see the bottom fan is installed.

EDIT2: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/08050dd6.jpg

In that one, you can see the bottom of the heatsink through the grate. It doesn't even go below the top fan grate. You can see a screw on the bottom one that holds the fan in ;)

[M Diddy]

If you have it facing out the back, you run into clearance issues. Face it vertical (exhaust out the top) you won't have issues.

If you MUST run it horizontal, you can turn the heatsink clockwise about 15 degrees and it will clear. I'd just say run it vertical, better exhaust ;)


EDIT: Wait, are you talking about the door? If so, then yes, it only stops the top one from being installed, if you look at the photos where everything is assembled, you can see the bottom fan is installed.

EDIT2: http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/08050dd6.jpg

In that one, you can see the bottom of the heatsink through the grate. It doesn't even go below the top fan grate. You can see a screw on the bottom one that holds the fan in ;)


No no! I was talking about the top fans! :D

Was just stating it was obvious to me that there is no way of mounting a fan on the top grill of the door inside with the TRUE installd is all.

BTW, as of now, how is your TRUE mounted?

[thideras]

No no! I was talking about the top fans! :D

Was just stating it was obvious to me that there is no way of mounting a fan on the top grill of the door inside with the TRUE installd is all.

BTW, as of now, how is your TRUE mounted?Vertical, and I got about a 2c drop in temps while folding.

[UnrealAlex]

Hey guys I decided to run some tests on the functionality of the lower side panel fan directed towards the GPU.
I used DX9 Real-Time High-Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting V1.2 (rthdribl for short lol) to stress the video card, at current clocks in my sig.

................................................Te mp Idle.......Temp Load
Yate Loon 120mm(SL, quieter).....51........~63
No fan .........................................53....... ...66(fan set to go up to 100% after 65C)
Yate loon 140mm..........................51..........~63
Yate loon 120mm (SM,70CFM)......50..........~63
(These SM fans are pretty darn loud)


Results: Use the regular, quiet fan;the added noise or size are not worth it. Also something like Crysis would stress it a lot more I think. Also I've come to the conclusion that the GPU fan should go to 100% as soon as you enter a game. It's most effective this way: allows for higher clocks and cooler temps, doesn't vacillate all the time.

And unless you really stress the GPU with games, it's not worth it to even have a fan there. That spot seems to produce the most noise.


Tommorow I'll test out how much a difference it makes to have a 140mm fan on top vs 120mm, as well as different fans for the Ultima-90 push fan.

[baggedmazda]

i have my video card set at 100% all the time given thou it is just a apg version of the
x800 pro i have always set mine up like that.

with my sunbeam controler i crank the 7 high speed loons all the way up before i enter my game(currently bf2) put on the head set with some rage or whatever and i never hear my computer at all

[Stanman16]

Vertical, and I got about a 2c drop in temps while folding.
So wait, mounting the Thermalright ultra extreme vertically so that the hot air comes out the top exhaust fans is better than mounting it horizontally with the hot air going out the back? I an kind of see that being the case, but why do so many people mount it sideways anyways?

[JamesXP]

Not all cases have a fan at the top :)

[dekruyter]

So wait, mounting the Thermalright ultra extreme vertically so that the hot air comes out the top exhaust fans is better than mounting it horizontally with the hot air going out the back? I an kind of see that being the case, but why do so many people mount it sideways anyways?

Fans that are horizontal "may" burn out their bearings earlier.

[M Diddy]

Fans that are horizontal "may" burn out their bearings earlier.

Hmmmm... I've never heard that one before...

Also, I've got a 690 on it's way to my house ordered up from ZZF for a measly 39.99 after rebate! :D I figure I can sell my TT Tsunami and the case will pretty much pay for itself. I've got no room for a full tower so mid's have to do for me and from the looks, this 690 will utterly destroy my TT's cooling ability. Looking forward to installing and seeing what happens.

I plan on Dremeling out all the fan grills as soon as I get it but am debating whether to go with rubber screws or silencers to quiet the fans. Any recommendations guys?

[thideras]

I plan on Dremeling out all the fan grills as soon as I get it but am debating whether to go with rubber screws or silencers to quiet the fans. Any recommendations guys?IMHO I think rubber screws are a scam. ;)

[UnrealAlex]

I'm running caseless right now and I decided to find out how much noise my fans really make. If I hold a D12SL yate loon in my hand, it makes virtually no noise other than the sound of whooshing air. If I place it in the case however; it makes A LOT more noise. Similarly, the SL fan (more noise, pushes more air) that's sitting on my heatsink is very barely audible due to the way it's held in place.

I was thinking of getting something like this:
http://www.mnpctech.com/FanGrommet.html

Going to home depot tomorrow to buy paint to paint the interior :)
Wish I had a garage though =/ living in an apartment sucks.

What fan grills are you planning to cut out? The only ones I can see that are worth cutting out is the top two...but frankly I doubt it would make even the tiniest difference.

[redrumy3]

i want this case now!!! getting bored of my tsunami dream case and this looks good! if i dont go full tower i will deff get this case ! nice review just what i needed to see :D

[UnrealAlex]

I can't figure something out, just to test out the fans I placed two of them on top of the case where the top two fan grills are. If I have the fan blowing up, it makes a lot of noise. If I have it blowing down into the case, through the grills, it makes no noise, wtf?

[dekruyter]

My yate loon's are noisy in this case too; and also more noisy if the flow is out!; this includes the side fan(s) too! The rubber fan mount might be one idea to fix it; don't know.

Really, I think it might be the design of the perforations, their proximity to the fan, in combination w/ the direction of the air flow; so weird.

[gigabit]

This case has drop my Video cards temp by 8c and Mobo temp by about 12c according to SmartGuardain

[thideras]

My yate loon's are noisy in this case too; and also more noisy if the flow is out!; this includes the side fan(s) too! The rubber fan mount might be one idea to fix it; don't know.

Really, I think it might be the design of the perforations, their proximity to the fan, in combination w/ the direction of the air flow; so weird.Yup, those grills are very restrictive. The grommets won't do anything, cutting the case will.

[UnrealAlex]

Which grills to cut then? I plan on cutting one of the top ones because I only put one fan there. (figure the second one doesnt really need one). Cant think of others to cut...except maybe the front HD intake one.

Maybe the side panel one too...

[thideras]

Which grills to cut then? I plan on cutting one of the top ones because I only put one fan there. (figure the second one doesnt really need one). Cant think of others to cut...except maybe the front HD intake one.

Maybe the side panel one too...I'm going to do everything except the side panels. I won't do those because I don't want to scratch the paint, but all the others will be modified.

This include:
Front intake
Top exhausts
Back exhaust
Bottom intake
Back motherboard

Now I have to find myself some time to mod this thing...

[Fr3@k3r]

great write-up THI. makes me want one now for my new machine im about to build.

[thideras]

great write-up THI. makes me want one now for my new machine im about to build.Buy it....you know you want to!! :D

[baggedmazda]

if you want to cut the sides out and not chip paint use painters tape the green stuff mask around it and it will not chip off

[Fr3@k3r]

Buy it....you know you want to!! :D


gonna split it with me? lol

[baggedmazda]

everyone can spare 40 bucks for a new case shipping has to be atleast 15 i would guess

[wa77ss]

I appreciate this post. Thanks OP!

[thideras]

I appreciate this post. Thanks OP!No problem.

You are officially post #100, on to page two! :soda:

[blackersabbath]

Taking donations so I can get this case to replace my emachines case lol

[baggedmazda]

i got a penny for you

[jintatsu]

im planning to get this case.. CM 690.. Nice features for a mid tower.. :D

[baggedmazda]

this case had everything i wanted and more tonight i am treating her to a new corsair hx520 i think she will love it then the rest next month

[jintatsu]

nice choice of PSU.. :D

[baggedmazda]

yep she went in just fine got rid of a crap supply i had to buy when my old one caught fire. took a ton of clutter out of the case and she will have a new mobo and cpu by next week but can't go into her until i get a pci-e gfx card i am still on apg over here. but she will see the combo and be drooling at it the whole time i am sure.

I may post a pick up next week i may bring in my case side to work and chrome it for fun i am gona have a boring week so that will waste some time.

[jintatsu]

post some pics.. :D

[skrewdup]

this case had everything i wanted and more tonight i am treating her to a new corsair hx520 i think she will love it then the rest next month

I have this case with Corsair 550vx and I love both. I first got coolermaster PSU because of combo deal on Newegg but that was POS PSU. Had to RMA and got corsair...much better wires (wrapped) and much quieter.

[Monty_Python]

Thideras

Nice new rig................. Now tell us about the Gateway mini-tower in the background, lets see its got to be at least 6-7 years old now. Used to work at Gateway I can spot that mini tower a mile away.:eek:

Had a whopping 80 watts psu and the hard drive mounts upside down in the top of the case.

[thideras]

Thideras

Nice new rig................. Now tell us about the Gateway mini-tower in the background, lets see its got to be at least 6-7 years old now. Used to work at Gateway I can spot that mini tower a mile away.:eek:

Had a whopping 80 watts psu and the hard drive mounts upside down in the top of the case.Hehe, it is a 800mhz p3 socket 370 ;)

[UnrealAlex]

I'm almost done cutting out the fan guards, decided against making a window lol. I just need to cut out the bottom fan guard and I'm done. Will finish tomorrow and post pics.

The metal on this case is THICK. Dremeling takes forever. Eventually I said screw it, cut a hole with the dremel and went jigsaw on it, worked A LOT better.
This being the first time I really got to work with power tools, my results were very rough and not pretty =P However I have a rubber u-channel thing which will cover the edges.

[M Diddy]

I'm almost done cutting out the fan guards, decided against making a window lol. I just need to cut out the bottom fan guard and I'm done. Will finish tomorrow and post pics.

The metal on this case is THICK. Dremeling takes forever. Eventually I said screw it, cut a hole with the dremel and went jigsaw on it, worked A LOT better.
This being the first time I really got to work with power tools, my results were very rough and not pretty =P However I have a rubber u-channel thing which will cover the edges.

I'm in the same boat! :D Just booted the PC back up in the new case after about 1 1/2 hours of Dremeling out the fan guards. Right now I have all the PSU cables, and I mean ALL of them, run behind the mobo tray and the back cover is on very tightly. I'm going to have to rewire tommorrow and get some of the cables out of there. All in all though, my temps dropped BIG time from my old Tsunami case.

I'm Quad priming right now for more then an hour and temps are at 58C with an ambient of 70F. At the same ambient in my old case I was pushing 67-69C.... Pretty much a 10C degree drop! :D

Did I mention I love the look of this case???? :D :D

[thideras]

Pics of the mods? Before and after temps?

I'm going to try and cover this as much as I can when I do it.

[UnrealAlex]

My temps have not improved from before but noise is almost gone. If not for the side panel fan the pc would practically silent.
Btw guys, the bottom fan is virtually useless if you have that air filter, I removed it because it was barely pushing any air.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/alex0989/P1010320.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/alex0989/P1010319.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/alex0989/P1010358.jpg

[baggedmazda]

how did you get the fan on your upper bay?

[thideras]

how did you get the fan on your upper bay?Ghetto mod it? :eh?:

[UnrealAlex]

I refer you to my "Eureka! How to attach fans to your case without noise" topic
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=532996
In short, the answer is: Double sided heavy duty adhesive tape.
Works wonders :)

[thideras]

I refer you to my "Eureka! How to attach fans to your case without noise" topic
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=532996
In short, the answer is: Double sided heavy duty adhesive tape.
Works wonders :)What did you use for the edges of the cut? I'm highly interested in it...I might do my door then....I just didn't want a poorly cut panel.

[UnrealAlex]

What did you use for the edges of the cut? I'm highly interested in it...I might do my door then....I just didn't want a poorly cut panel.
Edges? Do you mean the u-channel rubber around the edges? You can get it here
http://www.mnpctech.com/UChannel.html (they are good, I bought from them)
They also sell the dremel cutting disks that work well with computer cases.

First I tried cutting it out with a dremel, as you can see the top exhaust guard is all ugly and uneven because of this.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v154/alex0989/P1010319.jpg

I changed my tactic and went with making a hole with the dremel and cutting with a jigsaw using a 18 teeth per square inch bit (around 18). As you can see by the rear exhaust hole, the outcome was much better.

Also you want to cut outside of the guard, not through it(top vs rear again); much easier and better looking that way.
Finally, make sure you use painter's tape around the area you're cutting because as you can see you will get scratches/discoloration if you dont. Not sure where they came from, either from flying metal or from sparks or from the bottom of the jigsaw.

[thideras]

Thanks for the link, I'll order a "bit" of it ;)

[UnrealAlex]

Yea I suggest you get 2 or 3, even 4 quantities. The 3 holes I covered pretty much used up one quantity with some left. It's very useful to have.

[thideras]

Yea I suggest you get 2 or 3, even 4 quantities. The 3 holes I covered pretty much used up one quantity with some left. It's very useful to have.I'll have to order some....I really like how that looks. Combine that with my horrible dremel skills, and you have a decent looking fan hole!!!! :D

[baggedmazda]

plasma cuter ftw i can demolish holes in seconds

[M Diddy]

Hmmm.. I'm having a weird resonance issue with my 690. There is a slight, but annoying, high pitched hum coming from the top two fans. If I push down ever so slightly on the top of the case, the hum stops. If I push on either of the two fans from inside the case the hum stops. It's not a fan bearing but I'm not sure what else it could be.

[thideras]

Make sure the fans are tightened down and that the top cover is on. ;)

[Imfrikkinawesom]

I just purchased this case as well. I didn't find the modding necessary as the internals of the case were all very cool with 2 intakes in the front 1 intake in the bottom and 1 in the side then my 4 exhausts top back and 80mm behind the motherboard.. all in all im very impressed with the case not for the price but for the performance

[M Diddy]

Oh what a difference a fan makes!!!! :D

I decided to replace all the Apeiva fans I had installed in the case with some Yates based on all the reviews I've seen. I purchased four of the 140mm SM Yates from Petra's and 2 of the LED SL's from Jab-Tech. WOW! Case is MUCH more silent now, barely audible really, and temps are exactly the same. The 140's push as much CFM as my old Apeiva's at 200 less RPM's, and the SL's push almost as much at 300 less. All in all, I'm quite happy! :D

[seamadan000]

Could someone measure the area where the stack of 3.25" bays is for me, specifically the height before it turns into the 5.25" area and the width of the area behind the fan that a radiator would sit in.

Thanks

[thideras]

Could someone measure the area where the stack of 3.25" bays is for me, specifically the height before it turns into the 5.25" area and the width of the area behind the fan that a radiator would sit in.

ThanksGive me 1 minute ;)

8" tall (just a little longer than that).

1" between the front of the case and the HDD cage (where the fan sits).

;)

[seamadan000]

Thanks for the quick response :D
One more request, I should have been more specific, but I meant the width of the case inside- essentially I would like to know how wide a radiator can be and still fit in the case with the sides on.

Oh, and I bet I am the only one in the forums intimately familiar with where Brandon SD is. I am from Rapid City originally. South Dakota Pride!

[thideras]

Thanks for the quick response :D
One more request, I should have been more specific, but I meant the width of the case inside- essentially I would like to know how wide a radiator can be and still fit in the case with the sides on.

Oh, and I bet I am the only one in the forums intimately familiar with where Brandon SD is. I am from Rapid City originally. South Dakota Pride!Sure, one sec! *grabs tape measure*




...




8" from side to side! :D

Hehe, you are probably the first person to know where I live :p

[seamadan000]

Just a *bit* too small for a PA 160

sad panda

very nice case though

[thideras]

Just a *bit* too small for a PA 160

sad panda

very nice case though:confused:

It looks like it would fit....good idea though....

[seamadan000]

one dimention of the PA 160 is 8.4", if I am not mistaken, which is about a half inch too much. :(

Thanks again for the info though :)

[thideras]

one dimention of the PA 160 is 8.4", if I am not mistaken, which is about a half inch too much. :(

Thanks again for the info though :)Ah....that would do it ;)

[redrumy3]

i just ordered it from zipzoomfly 69.99 shipped - 20 mail n rebate :D

was getting tired of my tsunami dream case so i decided to buy this

[juane414]

Just ordered mine. $29.99 shipped after MIR from the egg. I'm excited to see how much my temps will drop.

[Dermen]

I love this case compared to my Antec 900. I moved the side fan to the bottom, and installed 2 yates on the top, and 1 yate in the drive bay. I didn't notice much difference in temps from the 900, but working with the case is so much easier. It is a pita to add a drive to the antec. Plus the cable management is much better, I have all the PSU wires going behind the MB tray.

When I get my 8800GT I'm going to mount another yate on the side, but it will have to be mounted on the outside as my TR Ultra 120 is in the way on my Ultra-D. That side faces the wall so I won't see it.

Mounting a fan in the drive bays was easy. I made a quick drawing on one of your pics. The blue lines represent the fan, and the red dots are where the fan is screwed it. I removed all the covers except the one that the fan is mounted to. I have my DVD-RW in the bottom bay, my case is on my desk and I don't like the drive to be as low as possible. Anyway it is very easy, I'll probably change it eventually when I cut out some of the fan grills but its good for now.

[c0dec]

Anyone running a rad on the inside of this case at the top?

[thideras]

Anyone running a rad on the inside of this case at the top?I received a PM from someone else with this case that is attempting to try it. Hopefully, they will post their results once they attempt to put it in :D

[IYIENACE]

I'm building a pc for a customer based on this case so thanks for the nice review. GJ :beer:

[M Diddy]

I'm building a pc for a customer based on this case so thanks for the nice review. GJ :beer:

:thup:

[xbiker321]

I just ordered one of these since Newegg had a nice deal. I plan on building a internal watercooled setup with this case so be on the lookout for a Project Log. I am still in Baghdad but I should be home in a few weeks with the CM690 awaiting my arrival :)

[juane414]

Lame, my 690 is apparently stuck at a UPS hub somewhere... It was scheduled to arrive today. At least Newegg was good enough to credit me $15 on my next purchase. I just hope it gets here within 4 weeks so I can get my rebate!

[Vengance_01]

I have this case as well and find it a fantastic deal for the price. Running four 140mm yates and 2 120mm yates, but the fans are a bit loud for my taste at 12 volt when I am not playing a game. I really need to cut the grills as I think this is causing the excess noise.

[thideras]

Great to hear the feedback! I'm glad people enjoy the case, I sure do!

Speaking of which, I had a new motherboard come in tonight, so pics as long as it doesn't start on fire! :D

[M Diddy]

I have this case as well and find it a fantastic deal for the price. Running four 140mm yates and 2 120mm yates, but the fans are a bit loud for my taste at 12 volt when I am not playing a game. I really need to cut the grills as I think this is causing the excess noise.


It probobly is the grills. I have the same setup and all I can hear is a air moving... :)

[kryo85]

ah, thanks for the heads up.

i ordered this case, and was going to order the thermalright 120, but instead will get the zalman 9700.

this case is sexy!

[M Diddy]

Can't stress how much I love this case! :D

[kryo85]

oh, one thing. i've been reading about the plastics, that it is a bit on the weak side.

have any of you guys run into trouble with this?

[thideras]

oh, one thing. i've been reading about the plastics, that it is a bit on the weak side.

have any of you guys run into trouble with this?You mean on the top or the front? Hardly weak...

[masakabassist]

Thi, are the feet of the CM690 removable? I have a space of 490mm and the case itself is apparently 482mm. I read on Toms Hardware that the feet add approx. 20mm. So as im pushed for space as it is (hoping I measured the space correctly) if the feet came off that would be assume. If its not too much bother could you have a look to see if they are please.

Thanks alot :)

[thideras]

Thi, are the feet of the CM690 removable? I have a space of 490mm and the case itself is apparently 482mm. I read on Toms Hardware that the feet add approx. 20mm. So as im pushed for space as it is (hoping I measured the space correctly) if the feet came off that would be assume. If its not too much bother could you have a look to see if they are please.

Thanks alot :)Yes, I'm sure they unscrew ;)

[masakabassist]

Magic! Thats what I wanted to hear :)

[Dermen]

You can't remove the feet, the front panel of the case goes beyond the bottom of the case to blend in with the front feet. If you check out the closeups at newegg you will see what I'm talking about.

[thideras]

You can't remove the feet, the front panel of the case goes beyond the bottom of the case to blend in with the front feet. If you check out the closeups at newegg you will see what I'm talking about.Yup, just checked mine, he is right. I swear it didn't look like that...

[ASync]

Since everybody is crazy with this tower I think I ll give it a go too!

Can I please have the figures (hXwXd) for the biggest PsU this babe can handle?(Dont want to get a case that wont handle my PSU!). Would be nice if you can add any comments concerning this specific part for this tower.

ta:)

[thideras]

Since everybody is crazy with this tower I think I ll give it a go too!

Can I please have the figures (hXwXd) for the biggest PsU this babe can handle?(Dont want to get a case that wont handle my PSU!). Would be nice if you can add any comments concerning this specific part for this tower.

ta:)Well, since it only takes ATX power supplies, the only thing that would be a factor is the depth of the PSU. If you look at my pictures here:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/571df43b.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/3f6e82f0.jpg

If you don't put a fan on the bottom, it can be twice the depth of a normal PSU. I'm very sure that there are no power supplies too large for this case ;)

[g0dM@n]

I'm just putting together an Antec Nine Hundred for my gf's new build, and I don't have holes on the bottom for the PSU like that, so I had to mount the PSU upside-down... now the PSU's 120mm fan will be sucking things downward, which I'm not happy about at all b/c it's gonna go against the 200mm fan that comes stock mounted to the top of the case. :(

I like how the CM690 has holes on the bottom like that... you threw me off showing that grill... I thought it was the same pic, but it's one's back-bottom and other is front-bottom - OOPS! :)

Now you've got me thinking about dremeling holes in the Antec 900, but I really don't want to make this a huge project!!

[thideras]

Now you've got me thinking about dremeling holes in the Antec 900, but I really don't want to make this a huge project!!You can't resist!!! :D

[kryo85]

You mean on the top or the front? Hardly weak...

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/06389696.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/38a993c3.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/ea3f977b.jpg

actually i meant those

[thideras]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/06389696.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/38a993c3.jpg

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g121/thideras/Reviews/Cooler%20Master%20CM690/ea3f977b.jpg

actually i meant thoseAh, ok.

Those are very sturdy too, you would have to be trying to break them to actually break them ;)

The HDD cage is surprisingly flexible.

Also, :welcome: to the forums!!! :D:D

[kryo85]

Ah, ok.

Those are very sturdy too, you would have to be trying to break them to actually break them ;)

The HDD cage is surprisingly flexible.

Also, :welcome: to the forums!!! :D:D

thanks!! :beer::beer:

i ordered one last friday, and the case is sold out, with christmas and such, i don't know when i'll have the case... bugger... 'cause i'm completely in love with it.
i'm on a short budget, and since i can't get this one, NZXT Zero, i'll settle for a second best! haha

regarding the plastics, i've been hearing, specially with the drive bay tool free, that it tends to break easily, that's why i'm asking. at least until i get mine haha

[xbiker321]

Mine is awaiting my return from Iraq, it is sitting in my friends house. Poor baby doesn't know what I have in plans for her....heeh heeh heeh http://www.realestniggas.com/board/images/smilies/smilies/14_6_12.gif

[g0dM@n]

Mine is awaiting my return from Iraq, it is sitting in my friends house. Poor baby doesn't know what I have in plans for her....heeh heeh heeh http://www.realestniggas.com/board/images/smilies/smilies/14_6_12.gif

omg you got that gif from a hip hop site named ___... too funny...

when do you come back from Iraq? Kick ass pal!!

[pejcao]

one dimention of the PA 160 is 8.4", if I am not mistaken, which is about a half inch too much. :(

Thanks again for the info though :)

What about horizontal? Just sitting in the floor (and cutting case's bottom of course).

[thideras]

What about horizontal? Just sitting in the floor (and cutting case's bottom of course).Not sure what your asking here...:confused:

[pejcao]

Not sure what your asking here...:confused:
LOL!, sorry, I tried to say to place the PA 160.1 horizontal, lying in the floor of the case just in front of the PSU and taking the place of the 3 1/2'' rack (or just some of the lower 3 1/2'' if you cut the rack).
If (as someone measured) that area is Enough''x8''x8'' (LxWxH), then a PA160.1 (8.4''x6.5''x2'') should fit there, cutting the floor of the case (airflow through rad) and some of the lower 3 1/2'' bays from the rack...C'm, It is a less than 50$ so a dremmel work is not an issue here :santa:

Cheers!

[thideras]

I can measure when I get home.

[masakabassist]

My CM690 turned up today and it looks like the feet are removable you just have to remove the non slip tab on the front to feet and the screws on the back are easily accessible anyway.

[xbiker321]

My CM690 turned up today and it looks like the feet are removable you just have to remove the non slip tab on the front to feet and the screws on the back are easily accessible anyway.

Glad to hear, I was planning on installing wheels on the case anyway.

omg you got that gif from a hip hop site named ___... too funny...

when do you come back from Iraq? Kick ass pal!!

Yeah that forum is a secret, shhhh!
Anywho I come back from Iraq in a lil over a week but it will be a while before I begin the project. Asking for tools for Christmas plus I need to move into an apartment.

[thideras]

My CM690 turned up today and it looks like the feet are removable you just have to remove the non slip tab on the front to feet and the screws on the back are easily accessible anyway.Yes, the back ones are removable, but if you look, the front of the case wraps around to the bottom ;)

[masakabassist]

Also is it worth changing out the fans that come with the case to Yate Loons or wont I gain much. I can't seem to find any info on the CFM and dB rating of the Coolermaster fans.

[xbiker321]

Yes, the back ones are removable, but if you look, the front of the case wraps around to the bottom ;)

hmmm...maybe no wheels for me, lol. I'll figure something out.


EDIT: Also would like to know the specs on the stock fans^

[Jas]

I bought this case for my wifes new computer just over a week ago.

It is definately one of the nicest cases I've had the pleasure to work with. It made me so jealous, I bought myself a new case :p

[Dermen]

Also is it worth changing out the fans that come with the case to Yate Loons or wont I gain much. I can't seem to find any info on the CFM and dB rating of the Coolermaster fans.

They are louder than Yates. I plan to replace them soon, also a lot of people have mentioned removing the grills will reduce noise a lot. I really don't know why they don't do this to begin with. There are grills on the top and front, which are then covered by a mesh so the grills only use is to restrict airflow and make noise.

[kryo85]

woot! got mine yesterday, and assembled the pc today. i love this case!

in general, the temps dropped around 5/6 degrees in every component.
now i just need to purchase silent fans, the coolermaster fans that came with the case are rather noisy. maybe i'll buy xl2, i have 2 of those, and they're pretty silent and have a good cfm

and the case is huge! frigging huge! for a mid tower that is

[Jolly-Swagman]

Well got my CM-690 and Boy What a Fantastic Case its So Friggin Huge compaired to my older P4 Mid/Tower that I could fit into the CM-690, lol

Very Impressed with the Layout and ease of Cable management too, even enough space to run cables behind M/B tray and with the 3 extra 120mm Thermaltake Silent Smart Fans /Blue LED's it is 5-10deg C cooler than my older PC

[Hookem]

Also is it worth changing out the fans that come with the case to Yate Loons or wont I gain much. I can't seem to find any info on the CFM and dB rating of the Coolermaster fans.


I say yes...The "L" series are virtually silent and the "M" series are very quiet considering the amount of air they move.

I only had the CM690 for a few days, but I did end up 7 volting the Coolermaster fans before I returned it (could not get the right side to come off)

Great case...Best bang for the buck in the case world right now.

In my humble opinion of course !!!!!!

[masakabassist]

Ill be ordering Yate Loons this week :) The fan on the side of the case in my opinion is quite loud.

[gigabit]

I just got a sunbeam rehobus yesterday for mine.Cant wait till this weekend to hook it up

[ps2cho]

Ill be ordering Yate Loons this week :) The fan on the side of the case in my opinion is quite loud.

Yes I had the same problem and the yate loons are loud too (not as loud though).

Its the air resistance that makes it loud, your best bet is to get a fan controller for it and turn the speed all the way down....that was the only way I got mine to be silent.

[thideras]

Yes I had the same problem and the yate loons are loud too (not as loud though).

Its the air resistance that makes it loud, your best bet is to get a fan controller for it and turn the speed all the way down....that was the only way I got mine to be silent.I have the same issue, ANY fans are very loud when up against that grill. I might rip everything out tonight and start cutting the case :beer:

[Jolly-Swagman]

I placed small rubber O-rings between the fan and case when mounting and acts like a vibration dampener not as noisy

[thideras]

I placed small rubber O-rings between the fan and case when mounting and acts like a vibration dampener not as noisyWell, the vibration wasn't causing the issue (atleast in my case), just the being right up against the grill (very restrictive I might add ;)).

[Hookem]

I would have to agree...The grills on the CM690 are the weak link...I whack all the grills out of just about any case I have ever had my hands on.

And on the CM690 it is a must do...In my humble opinion of course !!!!!!

If I could have gotten the right side door off my CM690 it would look like swiss cheese.

Love the case but the grills just gotz to go.

[imposter]

http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=CA1306233&cmp=AFC-CJ_CBIT#

20 dollars AR. Enjoy people.

[baggedmazda]

says 4.99 after rebates for me but **** i payed 50 and got a good deal on mine

[mikaelc]

Hi there,

First of all, thanks for great review thideras. I'm thinking about buying this CM, I have three questions though:

1) This might be more general... What about the PSU placed on the bottom of the case? Does it take a lot of dust through the vents?

2) Have you tried to mount the PSU upside down (sucking air out of the case)? Is it worth a try (considering any improvement in airflow)?

3) Has anyone of you tried to mount an additional intake fan (possibly 120mm) in the front 5'25 bay? This is the only point which makes me feel thorn apart between Antec 900 and RC-690...

[thideras]

Hi there,

First of all, thanks for great review thideras. I'm thinking about buying this CM, I have three questions though:

1) This might be more general... What about the PSU placed on the bottom of the case? Does it take a lot of dust through the vents?

2) Have you tried to mount the PSU upside down (sucking air out of the case)? Is it worth a try (considering any improvement in airflow)?

3) Has anyone of you tried to mount an additional intake fan (possibly 120mm) in the front 5'25 bay? This is the only point which makes me feel thorn apart between Antec 900 and RC-690...1) Yes, it will take more dust since it is pulling air from the outside.

2) You won't be able to install it upside down ;)

3) I have not seen it, but it would work.

[gixxer420]

I have another fan mounted in the 5.25 bay. I used zip ties to secure it. Works great pulls cool air straight to my heatsink fan. I have a total of 7 x 120's as case fans and 2 x 120's on heatsink.

The room in this case is nice for a smaller case. You would be happy with this case mikaelc.

[mikaelc]

Thanks for replies. I'm getting closer to placing an order. And I'm eager to see at least a little drop in temperatures (compared to my present, cheap case). I just hope it will serve me for a couple of hw updates... ;)

[aoch88]

The right side panel exhaust fan (80mm thin profile) seems to help a bit in my case. I placed an old 60mm AMD cooler plus mod another 80mm on the outside to suck air out.

[BEEAH]

Just inspected this case at my local puter store and something struck me. Because the entire case is basically mesh construction, will it really cool that well? Not being able to fully pull a draft from front to back, or bottom to top seems like there could be easily made dead spots around the fans as they simply recycle alot of their own air. Know what I mean?

[thideras]

Know what I mean?No...

The entire case is not mesh....not sure what case you looked at. The only mesh parts are the top (where the fans are, mind you ;)). The IO panel is solid, no air getting through that. The front is also mesh, the bottom has a fan behind it and the 5.25" are the only thing with breathable mesh without a fan.

There is no where near enough pressure...I'd be more worried about the spots where I don't have a fan...

:welcome: to the forums BTW! :D

[BEEAH]

No...

The entire case is not mesh....not sure what case you looked at. The only mesh parts are the top (where the fans are, mind you ;)). The IO panel is solid, no air getting through that. The front is also mesh, the bottom has a fan behind it and the 5.25" are the only thing with breathable mesh without a fan.

There is no where near enough pressure...I'd be more worried about the spots where I don't have a fan...

:welcome: to the forums BTW! :D

Hmm, musta not looked at it really hard enough.

Oddly enough, I'm looking at the CM Cosmos or this one. Compleate ends of the spectrum of price and size though. I just LOVE the commanding look of that damn Cosmos.

[thideras]

Oddly enough, I'm looking at the CM Cosmos or this one. Compleate ends of the spectrum of price and size though. I just LOVE the commanding look of that damn Cosmos.I heavily considered getting that case. The price killed it (when it was released) for me :(

The price you can get it for now is absolutely insane.

[BEEAH]

What was it when it came out?

[thideras]

What was it when it came out?I believe a couple months ago...not sure when exactly.

[BEEAH]

I believe a couple months ago...not sure when exactly.

No, how much was it. :rolleyes:

The 690 is not even listed on the Egg right now. pfft.

[thideras]

No, how much was it. :rolleyes:

The 690 is not even listed on the Egg right now. pfft.Oh, sorry. >.<

Around 300....290 I believe...

[jmsanders2]

For the price it is now, it's a steal... lookin down on mine with pride!

[aoch88]

I wish they have an aluminium version of this.

[soapman]

:bang head:bang head:bang head

Guys,

I stumbled across this topic, and was not happy to read that the TR 120 Ectreme HSF will prevent me from using all of the available fan locations.

I want to be sure I understand correctly: If mounted so that the fan blows air through the heatsink and out the back, I cannot use the TOP Fans?

If mounted so the fan blows air through the heatsink and out the top, I can?

Is the cooler so tall that I can't use both fans on the side panel? I dont mind losing the one fan on the side panel, but would like to be able to use the fans in the top of the case.


Has anyone verified which mounting orientation is best for the thermalright heatsink? I want the lowest temps possible, as I will be overclocking my CPU and don't want to be hels back by high temps.

BTW, I know cpu locantions can vary slightly based on which mobo you are running, so for what it's worth, the mobo will most likely be an asus Maximus formula or Maximus extreme.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

[M Diddy]

You can mount the TRUE in either direction. I had it both ways and prefer to have it blowing out the back. It's a little tight, but there's about a 1/2 inch clearance using 140x25 mm Yates on the top.

[M Diddy]

Pic for reference.... :D

http://www.beyond20v.com/diddy/pics/wires.jpg

[soapman]

You can mount the TRUE in either direction. I had it both ways and prefer to have it blowing out the back. It's a little tight, but there's about a 1/2 inch clearance using 140x25 mm Yates on the top.

Thanks for the quick response. I dont have my motherboard yet, si I cant check clearance for myself.....this helps.


One Question though, does the fan on top (front) rob some of the air that the TR120 fan should be pulling through the heatsink?

I like the idea of facing the TR so it exhausts right out the back, since I am forced to put the case inside my desk. This may sound horrible where temps are concerned, but there is a door that opens on the back of the desk, and hot air does have a place to escape, so I shouldnt be at too much of a disadvantage.

[juane414]

I went from a case that had my TRUE blowing upward straight into the PSU to this baby that blows it right out of the top, and to be honest with you, my temps haven't changed a degree on the cpu. The Northbridge and GPU temps dropped but not the CPU. So, the TRUE seems to perform just as well with two 120mm fans on the top. I got this case mostly to keep my PSU cool and for the extra room. I would say you should be fine.

[soapman]

I went from a case that had my TRUE blowing upward straight into the PSU to this baby that blows it right out of the top, and to be honest with you, my temps haven't changed a degree on the cpu. The Northbridge and GPU temps dropped but not the CPU. So, the TRUE seems to perform just as well with two 120mm fans on the top. I got this case mostly to keep my PSU cool and for the extra room. I would say you should be fine.



Thanks! I agree with what you are saying about the PSU. I cant believe more high performance cases don't mount the PSU on the bottom with an intake opening down there. Just seems like a no brainer.

[JetFlyer]

Will this case fit a nvidia quadro card?, i'm looking for a new low end quad workstation, 550W power supply, Asus deluxe MB, tower cooler? raptor 150 + WD500

[thideras]

Let me get the dimension of the card and I will check for you.

Which model?

[JetFlyer]

the 4600 thank you

[thideras]

Sure, one sec.

Edit: Like this one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133213&Tpk=fx4600

If it is that, it looks just as long as a 8800GTS 320/640. If that is the correct one, then yes, that will fit.

[JetFlyer]

Thanks, it's 9" long should be fine. newegg has a good deal with the 550 psu included, i'm thinking that unit should be just enough

[ps2cho]

Yay just got back my rebate for my CM690 LOL.

It took a total of 2months.

$20 for me :)

[baggedmazda]

HA ME TOO YEAH FOR PAYING FOR MY S1

[Daegon]

I'm considering picking up one of these for my next PC, I'd like to pop a 2x120 radiator up top, and I can say that it would certainly fit, running the hoses might be a bit of a headache, and bleeding could be very challenging with a radiator up top, but I'll work it out somehow if I ever find a giant pile of money sitting around <.<

[imposter]

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0265143

20 dollars after rebate.

Edit + 17 dollars shipping as well.

[Daegon]

even less if you work there >.>

[IYIENACE]

Forgot about this thread. :-/
I would say the case was great value especially considering the rebate, thing that really shocked me was with a zalman cpu cooler how quiet this pc was. Definitely makes me more aware of my howling stacker. :(

[Dermen]

I like mine so much I just ordered another one. If you have a microcenter near you do a local pickup to avoid the shipping charges.

[Jas]

Easily my favorite Mid tower case right now.

[Janus67]

I was surprised after reading Maximum PC that they gave the case a 4/10. I haven't seen/touched the case in person, but some of the things that you said were nice parts they kinda ragged on. Dunno, just throwing it out there.

[thideras]

I was surprised after reading Maximum PC that they gave the case a 4/10. I haven't seen/touched the case in person, but some of the things that you said were nice parts they kinda ragged on. Dunno, just throwing it out there.Like people say: "To each their own". I could see some things being taken as "bad", but 4/10? Come on...this ridiculous...

[Stanman16]

I was surprised after reading Maximum PC that they gave the case a 4/10. I haven't seen/touched the case in person, but some of the things that you said were nice parts they kinda ragged on. Dunno, just throwing it out there.

Is this review online anywhere? I'm curious to see what they said about it. I can't think of a more ideal case, both modded and stock.

[Asmodeus]

I'm considering picking up one of these for my next PC, I'd like to pop a 2x120 radiator up top, and I can say that it would certainly fit, running the hoses might be a bit of a headache, and bleeding could be very challenging with a radiator up top, but I'll work it out somehow if I ever find a giant pile of money sitting around <.<

I've already done it. I'll get pics as soon as I can to show you. It wasn't that hard, just a little extra measuring to make sure everything was snug.

[M Diddy]

Is this review online anywhere? I'm curious to see what they said about it. I can't think of a more ideal case, both modded and stock.

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/cooler_master_690#comment_form

These guys are idiots! Why would you have someone like this writing reviews for your magazine????

"Can't fit a fan in the bottom with a regular sized PSU installed!"

That's a load of crap. With both my HX620 and GLN700 installed, I had a 140mm Yate in there with TONS of room to spare!

I added a comment to this idiot's review....

[Daegon]

I've already done it. I'll get pics as soon as I can to show you. It wasn't that hard, just a little extra measuring to make sure everything was snug.

worthless without pics.
<3

just bought it last night, next paycheck is IP35-Pro, e8400, ram and 8800gt(s?)

[thideras]

worthless without pics.
<3

just bought it last night, next paycheck is IP35-Pro, e8400, ram and 8800gts 512Fixed :D

[M Diddy]

Fixed :D


Is it really THAT much better then the GT????

[Vengance_01]

Is it really THAT much better then the GT???? No, but if you factor in the better cooler on the GTS and I have seen new GTS's for 275-280$, its pretty even. But now we are seeing 512MB 8800GT's for 200-180$ AMIR's.

[thideras]

No, but if you factor in the better cooler on the GTS and I have seen new GTS's for 275-280$, its pretty even. But now we are seeing 512MB 8800GT's for 200-180$ AMIR's.Don't forget to add they overclock better ;)

[Daegon]

alright, i suppose i'll go with the GTS, i think there's a guy trying to sell one locally for like 180..

still, wanna see water cooling in this case.

[thideras]

alright, i suppose i'll go with the GTS, i think there's a guy trying to sell one locally for like 180..

still, wanna see water cooling in this case.WAIT!!!! The 640 != 512!!!

Totally different cards! I promise that is not the 512 that you want!!

[CreasianDevaili]

I have the good old Cooler master Cent 5. I am going from a amd single core to a e8400 and a 8800gt. I am going to use the Gigabyte x38-DS4 motherboard, and 1 hd. My psu is the SILVERSTONE SST-ST56ZF.

Now I did cut a 80mm intake fan into the side panel of my cent 5, but it does get quite Loud when I got it all running during long gaming sessions.

Do you all think this case, with my setup and psu, is a good fit? I like the price, would put in a few more fans, and have some fun of course, but the only real objective would be air flow.

Also i am concerned about dust. I do have a decent amount of dust, but over the course of 2007 it never got really bad, but it was noticeable. How is the cleaning job with those front fans? Also, does all the fan housings have a pre-installed screen of some sort?

Thank you for any info.

[thideras]

I have the good old Cooler master Cent 5. I am going from a amd single core to a e8400 and a 8800gt. I am going to use the Gigabyte x38-DS4 motherboard, and 1 hd. My psu is the SILVERSTONE SST-ST56ZF.

Now I did cut a 80mm intake fan into the side panel of my cent 5, but it does get quite Loud when I got it all running during long gaming sessions.

Do you all think this case, with my setup and psu, is a good fit? I like the price, would put in a few more fans, and have some fun of course, but the only real objective would be air flow.

Also i am concerned about dust. I do have a decent amount of dust, but over the course of 2007 it never got really bad, but it was noticeable. How is the cleaning job with those front fans? Also, does all the fan housings have a pre-installed screen of some sort?

Thank you for any info.You are talking about a completely different case than this review was about >.>

I know nothing about it.

I would recommend searching for a thread (to see if one already exists) or create your own thread in the cases section ;)

[CreasianDevaili]

You are talking about a completely different case than this review was about >.>

I know nothing about it.

I would recommend searching for a thread (to see if one already exists) or create your own thread in the cases section ;)

It was my fault if i worded it wrong.

I meant "this case" as in the CM 690 case, in comparison to my current setup, being that big of a improvement. I listed my psu as a reference for size.

I was just asking if all the fan slots were screened so i knew if i needed to buy new ones. Also wondered how good the air flow was, based on the in box setup, or basically how many fans i would need.

I was thinking of getting the CM690, and get 1 fan for the bottom, and one for the very top.

[thideras]

It was my fault if i worded it wrong.

I meant "this case" as in the CM 690 case, in comparison to my current setup, being that big of a improvement. I listed my psu as a reference for size.

I was just asking if all the fan slots were screened so i knew if i needed to buy new ones. Also wondered how good the air flow was, based on the in box setup, or basically how many fans i would need.

I was thinking of getting the CM690, and get 1 fan for the bottom, and one for the very top.Ah, my bad, I read it wrong. They have finger guards on them, if that is what you are asking. The flow is good, and it can hold up to 7 120mm fans (or 4 140mm fans and 3 120mm fans).

I would recommend populating all the slots if you have the money for fans. Yate Loon fans are good, quiet and cheap ($4.50 each!!)!! :D

[JetFlyer]

Newbie question
After reading this thread I decided this would be the case for my first build! Went with the P5K deluxe.
If I'm more concerned with cooling than noise is it still recommended to replace the existing fans (with YLs) and put in a controller? probably won't drill out the grills either way.

also, if I go the controller YL route do I need any special fan cables? Thanks

[thideras]

Newbie question
After reading this thread I decided this would be the case for my first build! Went with the P5K deluxe.
If I'm more concerned with cooling than noise is it still recommended to replace the existing fans (with YLs) and put in a controller? probably won't drill out the grills either way.

also, if I go the controller YL route do I need any special fan cables? ThanksWell, if you are going for cooling, cut the fan grills out. They will increase airflow many times over and reduce the noise greatly.

You should look at the high speed Yate Loon's. They are really cheap and push a fair amount of air.

[JetFlyer]

will cutting the grills really make that much of a difference on the top and front fans? because the air still needs to move through that mesh covering.

[thideras]

will cutting the grills really make that much of a difference on the top and front fans? because the air still needs to move through that mesh covering.Yes, because the grill is right up against the fans, it can't get any pressure behind it. The mesh won't reduce it near as much as the grills ;)

[CreasianDevaili]

Ah, my bad, I read it wrong. They have finger guards on them, if that is what you are asking. The flow is good, and it can hold up to 7 120mm fans (or 4 140mm fans and 3 120mm fans).

I would recommend populating all the slots if you have the money for fans. Yate Loon fans are good, quiet and cheap ($4.50 each!!)!! :D

Well, again i think its my fault. I meant screens, like filters, to keep out the dust. Its somewhat of a battle to keep my cent 5 dust free, and its a chore everytime.

Basically, I can afford all the fans. However I am worried of all those fans being put in if it would drain my psu. But I think i will be okay.

Just wanted to ask about the airflow. I know i can do better than the cent 5, and I would like to keep my e8400 and 8800GT nice and cool.


But at the same time, i wont be ocing anything for abit. When i do, i wont go crazy either. So i am also wondering if this case is overkill, and that if i just add a second side intake fan over the northbridge/cpu area if that is enough, with 1 front 80mm, 1 rear 120mm, and 1 side 80mm on the pci-e lane

[JetFlyer]

Yes, because the grill is right up against the fans, it can't get any pressure behind it. The mesh won't reduce it near as much as the grills ;)

OK, good advise. might as well do it right. what dia hole for a 120 YL? and will I need to buy some cables and pin adaptors to hook them up to the fan controller (sunbeam)

Any special length cables reqired with this case? thx again

[CreasianDevaili]

Hmm.. my local micro center has these for 59.99 with a 40 dollar MIR. That alone is going to beat the newegg price of 69.99 +25 bucks to ship <cheapest> 3 day ups.

Now i am even more inclined to get it, and now i can look at it inside and out prior to buying myself!

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0265143

Gonna go pick one up tommorow

[JetFlyer]

OK, good advise. might as well do it right. what dia hole for a 120 YL? and will I need to buy some cables and pin adaptors to hook them up to the fan controller (sunbeam)

Any special length cables reqired with this case? thx again

Duh, what I should have asked is, will my 4-1/8" hole saw be adequate or should I jig saw a larger hole

[thideras]

Duh, what I should have asked is, will my 4-1/8" hole saw be adequate or should I jig saw a larger holeHmm...that is a little small, if you could get a 4-3/4" hole saw, that would be perfect.

[CreasianDevaili]

Well i got mine today. Got it home and started to smile as I took out the front, bottom, and top grills. Also took out the honeycomb on the front and top.

I do plan to get better fans soon, as I just picked up some cheapo's at microcenter. "If i had spent 1 more dollar after all this rebuilding, wife would have killed me in front of the columbus, ohio cops walking around inside".

So anyhow, I got 3 additional 120mm fans. I got one in the bottom and one on the top. I still have the bottom one in the screen bracket, but the grill is now off. Should i just leave it out of the screen bracket? Or will it hurt the airflow by a noticeable degree?

So 6 fans total right now, 4 of which will be on a controller. What do you all suggest for optimal airflow as far as placement? I am either putting my last fan as the 2nd side intake, or the 2nd top. I dont plan to mod for a second front intake due to the drives i am planning to use.. so opinions are gladly accepted.

I wont be ocing for another month or so, and will be using the stock e8400 hsf until march and i get a new aftermarket cpu hsf, replace all the fans in the case, and have enough spare funds to do it and not get killed by my wife <who has let me spend over 800 bucks on all this upgradeing so i AM thankful> :)