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Spartacus51
12-18-01, 04:23 PM
Was looking at the lexon case and was impressed, however you ask my the radiator setup is ugly. Besides it's more expensive and less efficient than a bong. Am dreaming of a clear bong with cascading blue water attached to the back of a clear case lit by blue light... Case fans painted white...

OOH, pretty!

Whoops, knew I forgot something, anyone know WHERE I could get a clear pipe to make into a bong?

hunter1895
12-18-01, 05:55 PM
i dont know were you can get a clear pipe but that sound F%$#$%%^ cool!

Christoph
12-18-01, 08:04 PM
AFAIK, there's no such thing as clear pipe wide enough to make a decent bong cooler. What you'd probably have to is design the bong out of rectangular pieces of clear plastic. Add a few 6000 mcd blue LEDs (http://hosfelt.com/Leds/led1.htm) and you've got the sexiest bong mod ever.
The only problem is that now I don't like you because I've got my boring bong mostly made and I want to do this. Maybe I can sell it.
Good luck and TAKE PICTURES if you decide to do this.

flounder43
12-18-01, 08:13 PM
I think that you can get clear pipe:

http://www.harvel.com/clear.html

trey_w
12-18-01, 08:38 PM
i've got a clear bong and theres a slight problem

smoke is always coming out...... lol

Crash893
12-18-01, 08:49 PM
could you make a square pipe out of strips of plexie glass if you cant find pipe

Gravity Man
12-18-01, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by trey_w
i've got a clear bong and theres a slight problem

smoke is always coming out...... lol
I don't think that's particularly good for cooling, but the best way to remove the smoke is to suck it out.

trey_w
12-18-01, 09:29 PM
removing it as we speak.... lol

Spartacus51
12-18-01, 11:25 PM
grrr, checked out harvel.com... they advertise it but seems like they want to install it if you want to use it... I don't think it's intended for bongs (although I wonder why on earth anyone would wanna see their sh*t flowing through the basement...) Anyway I'm going to have to think this one over as I had been planning on using the 12" bong design from http://www.overclockers.com/articles389/index06.asp... not real sure how good it would look with the copper tubing instead of a reg. showerhead bong.

Not sure how well the squared off version of the bong would work, might have some issues fitting everything together and would obviously be more complicated than buying a wye pipe. Although the more I think about it the more I like this idea, even as a square. Build the case with a front section specifically for the reg. components (OCZ even makes a cool blue 256 MB pc150 stick) and then a seperate section on the back of it, install a blacklight in the bottom to illuminate the resevoir. The intake for the fan could be built straight off the back... problem I see is how will the spray look on the clear case as it accumulates... would have to wipe computer off fairly often... although with this setup I think it would be well worth it...

And just think, it's like getting a lava lamp for free...

Think I'll draw up some brief schematics and get em posted.
Cash flow is a little bit low (although I might have a four and half finger discount on some plexiglass (tool and die maker missing half a thumb... he's the one that's making my waterblock/providing the copper stock)

Christmas break could be intersting...

Spartacus51
12-19-01, 12:07 AM
Alright, so I sat down to come up with schematics, and well that just ain't happenin...

So I tried doing a sort of artists rendering... well, I'm no artist either...

So now I'm left with just an idea in my head...

And actually another one on top of it. Am posting this part in the reg. cooling forum as well. What about a dobule bong? I ask because I want to minimize the height of the bong. But the way my setup is I've got monitor and case on one level of the desk and on the shelf above I've got printer in middle of two speakers. Well, part of being a modder is makin everything pretty right? To me pretty is symetrical, what you've got on one side you've got on the other, right? So what about double square bongs on either side of the printer? both would be blacklit thus doubling the effect and probably kickin off enough light that I could be hanging in my room with friends tossin a couple back and enjoying the pretty falling water and have my comp. kickin mp3s and staying plenty cool doing it. The double bongs I assume would cool quite well and would be an additional way of adding capacity to the whole system (obviously I'm also doubling the opportunity to lose water....) I just envision this to be a very pretty setup... not to mention the way it would look when using my third bong (one of the non cooling ones) I could watch this waterfall in my head for hours....

Keep giving me feedback, keep me motivated and get me goin on this... I envision the ultimate for this complete system...

(already trying to come up with a new design for a waterblock. Ideally this will be a total setup that is mostly original. I don't mind being copied later (imitation is the highest form of flattery), but I like being original. So someone let me know if this has been done before. Now if only I could come up with a new way of pumping the water...)

:beer:

Oni
12-19-01, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by trey_w
removing it as we speak.... lol

Need some help removing it? It can be pesky stuff to get rid of. :cool:

Spartacus51
12-19-01, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by Oni


Need some help removing it? It can be pesky stuff to get rid of. :cool:

Hey, I started this thread, I think I ought to get first dibs on helping remove it....

Christoph
12-19-01, 12:28 AM
You need to be careful about black lights. A little is fine, but too much can screw up your eyes. Talk to an optometrist first. You want to be able to see that mad bong, don't you?

Crash893
12-19-01, 12:46 AM
i was thinking mabey glass

but it would break or weight a ton

dizzy_g
12-19-01, 06:44 AM
Hey i make bongs out of glass! They aint much good in PC's thay are hot and smokin! :eek:

Alot of time and a cutting torch can work wonders on a glass bottle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D :D :D

Spartacus51
12-19-01, 10:25 AM
Geeze, when I started this thread I never thought I was posting a drug paraphenalia thread... guess I'm going to have to start calling it an evaporative cooling tower again...

Anyway, I doubt glass is a good idea...

Sounds like the double short bong thing is out... oh well.

Can't imagine a good way of attaching a bong to the back, or the front for that matter because, well, how would you access your stuffs? Unless I turned the drives and built it onto the front....

Not sure about attaching to the side either... Perhaps make a really fat but short bong that spreads all the way the length of the comp? Suppose on the bottom would be better than top though eh?

would look like this
http://www.daocplace.com/index.php?article=clearcase

except with the whole bottom section being a little taller (would probably make the case a little smaller then, might get cramped but I think I could pull it off) and with water cascading the whole length/width of it. Not sure if it would work or not, but would be most sexy. Perhaps with a fan in front pushing and one in back pulling both at a bit of an angle... would keep water from running out theses holes. Except I think I'm getting a bit tall now. Might just have to settle for the less sexy side mount, or a completely unmounted bong floating around in space.

FrozenInHI
12-20-01, 05:33 PM
dunno bout front or back, but i drew up an image on paint (i'm not an artist, you critics!) for one that attaches on the side or acts as a base/pedestal for your pc, dimensions are whatever you want them to be, but it looks like clear acrylic would work so long as you sealed it real well. see what you think:

Spartacus51
12-20-01, 06:24 PM
Not so sure on that bong. First don't see any air flow in it, no fan. second not sure about the pipe into the water, not sure it matters, but in your setup it's not getting any air in there to evaporate the water, which is the whole idea behind a bong...

Christoph
12-20-01, 06:52 PM
Here's a slightly smaller version.
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/id/ideamagnate/neatbong.png

I think that it'd be a great design if you put a fan or two on it so that new air was constantly flowing in to the main part (the empty section above the water) and out of the pipe.
The only other problem that I can see is that this setup is going to weigh a ton if you finll it all the way.
Good luck with your bonging.

Diggrr
12-20-01, 08:24 PM
How about a clear bong that is the side of the case, or for that matter mounts on the wall with blue diode/neon lighting.
Just my quickie rendering in paint shop pro, but you be the judge.

FrozenInHI
12-20-01, 09:16 PM
i didn't put any fans on the drawing since they'd be more artistic rendering than i'm capable of. what's more, there are a number of ways you could put them on, my first and foremost idea would be to mount a sanitary tee as the coupler for the pvc pipe to the bong base itself, then the opening where the tee is would have an 80mm fan blowing into it, and the air would go straight out the top of the bong. another idea i've got is to put the fan mounted to the side of the bong, maybe in front, and the pipe would have to be above the water line. various methods, but it's more or less a rough design sketch to give an idea. i've made something similar, without the modular design for the computer itself, and it worked excellently. decided to go with a more conventional one that's more mobile. yes, the bong would weigh a ton, it will hold a minimum of 5 gallons of water, and the water would be 50+ lbs alone, but it would weigh less than the one i have now, which is not liftable. a bong should be large in my opinion. less maintenance and more effective cooling, as the water travels through air longer with every foot taller you make it. i built a couple small bongs before my mad large one i have now, and none of them were able to cool as well as this one is.

Silver
12-21-01, 10:53 PM
I've had the same experience, for every foot in height or increase in air flow I get better temps. Btw had a 68cfm on it at one time and got the best temps yet however there was a slight stain showing up on the wall. Have gone to a smaller fan since. The cooler temp did not give me any more on the oc as well.

Spartacus51
12-22-01, 01:30 AM
Not real sure how I'd work out all the air flow issues, but imagine for a moment.

A clear case that along both sides has compartments for holding water, fans down the height on each side with ports cut into the backs, copper tubing that's runs through each side chamber and around behind the back leaving front and back open. Inside of the chambers the copper pipe would have holes drilled into it to allow for the showers...

This would allow for cool cascading blue on both sides of the case. Situating all the important stuff may take awhile, but I think the look would be worth it.

I'll try drawing up a pic or two quick.

Spartacus51
12-22-01, 02:19 AM
here are drawings. Not great orthoganol that I can see.

Spartacus51
12-22-01, 02:19 AM
top

Spartacus51
12-22-01, 02:20 AM
side

TheMortalWombat
12-23-01, 12:47 PM
Actually you can get clear pipes large enough for bongs. I've seen fishtanks made out of it.

Find an online aquarium store and ask them.

Dissolved
12-24-01, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by IdeaMagnate
Here's a slightly smaller version.
http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/preview/id/ideamagnate/neatbong.png

I think that it'd be a great design if you put a fan or two on it so that new air was constantly flowing in to the main part (the empty section above the water) and out of the pipe.
The only other problem that I can see is that this setup is going to weigh a ton if you finll it all the way.
Good luck with your bonging.

wouldnt that water get nasty or something? i use just distilled water in mine, and the tubes get dirty in like 2 weeks or so.. and my water block gets salt or somekind of buildup on the top of the metal tube probs and inside or some reason..

frozeninhi~ u have the z4 block right? do u notice anything like that^

IFMU
12-24-01, 03:17 AM
I like that idea about a clear bong... But with what everyone else has added heres one that I thought would be kinda kewl lil mod idea... Water Res mod as a Bong?!~!? (http://www.gideontech.com/guides/water/)

Now what if this was your bong/res? I thought this would be he**a kewl... the res and window mod ta boot!~!

Dissolved
12-24-01, 03:29 AM
Originally posted by ifmu
I like that idea about a clear bong... But with what everyone else has added heres one that I thought would be kinda kewl lil mod idea... Water Res mod as a Bong?!~!? (http://www.gideontech.com/guides/water/)

Now what if this was your bong/res? I thought this would be he**a kewl... the res and window mod ta boot!~!

thats pretty sweet... i think im gonna do that for my window mod!
wooooooo

FrozenInHI
12-24-01, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Dissolved


wouldnt that water get nasty or something? i use just distilled water in mine, and the tubes get dirty in like 2 weeks or so.. and my water block gets salt or somekind of buildup on the top of the metal tube probs and inside or some reason..

frozeninhi~ u have the z4 block right? do u notice anything like that^

not a bit, i use water wetter in my setup though. and my water is milspec deionized distilled water normally used in a Phalanx radar system's cooling circuit. not really higher performance, but boxes of 6 gallons each come free for me and they definitely don't conduct electricity, found that out the ol' hard way, i'll never forget another hoseclamp again!

hunter1895
12-24-01, 04:31 AM
Great thread guys . Im pretty sure you can get stuff from the pet shop to get rid of metals and minerals in water like iron and algea. That might take care of the "salt" and "dirty water". Look in the aqaurium section. lots of good stuff there for water mods.

Twinkle
12-24-01, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by Spartacus51
Alright, so I sat down to come up with schematics, and well that just ain't happenin...

So I tried doing a sort of artists rendering... well, I'm no artist either...

So now I'm left with just an idea in my head...

And actually another one on top of it. Am posting this part in the reg. cooling forum as well. What about a dobule bong? I ask because I want to minimize the height of the bong. But the way my setup is I've got monitor and case on one level of the desk and on the shelf above I've got printer in middle of two speakers. Well, part of being a modder is makin everything pretty right? To me pretty is symetrical, what you've got on one side you've got on the other, right? So what about double square bongs on either side of the printer? both would be blacklit thus doubling the effect and probably kickin off enough light that I could be hanging in my room with friends tossin a couple back and enjoying the pretty falling water and have my comp. kickin mp3s and staying plenty cool doing it. The double bongs I assume would cool quite well and would be an additional way of adding capacity to the whole system (obviously I'm also doubling the opportunity to lose water....) I just envision this to be a very pretty setup... not to mention the way it would look when using my third bong (one of the non cooling ones) I could watch this waterfall in my head for hours....

Keep giving me feedback, keep me motivated and get me goin on this... I envision the ultimate for this complete system...

(already trying to come up with a new design for a waterblock. Ideally this will be a total setup that is mostly original. I don't mind being copied later (imitation is the highest form of flattery), but I like being original. So someone let me know if this has been done before. Now if only I could come up with a new way of pumping the water...)

:beer:


You would just need one pump for each bong. Put it right behind the shower head.

Slurgi
12-24-01, 03:36 PM
Sheesh!

Looks like MS Paint hell.

never seen so many homemade attatched images in a thread!

Silver
12-24-01, 03:56 PM
One pump would work as the resevoirs are connected and the feed to both heads could be more or less balanced for big time flow.