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squeekyMop
09-28-07, 10:13 PM
Do you guys use or have heard of something called teh Xfps 360 pro?
rainless
09-28-07, 10:34 PM
Never heard of it.
NsOmNiA91130
09-28-07, 11:07 PM
Yes, I've heard of it. It's a mouse/keyboard adapter for the 360 to be used in games. I have no idea what it's performance is though, so I can't honestly comment on it.
rainless
09-29-07, 12:01 AM
Yes, I've heard of it. It's a mouse/keyboard adapter for the 360 to be used in games. I have no idea what it's performance is though, so I can't honestly comment on it.
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puremanb
09-29-07, 04:03 AM
I have one of those adapters for xbox and they don't work at all the sensitivity is much much too low to make using a mouse worthwhile. Even with the sensitivity maxed on halo trying to use the mouse to look around is painfully slow.
FudgeNuggets
09-29-07, 09:27 AM
yeah, those emulated joystick to kbd/mouse things are not all that great. The 360 natively supports keyboard and mouse, just no games supports it. I mean you can type info into the dashboard or messenger with the keyboard or edit rosters with it in Madden or other sports games, but I'd imagine the little keyboard thing that plugs into the controller could do that just as well.
uzibear
09-29-07, 06:09 PM
supposed to be pretty lousy; enjoy the comfortable inaccuracy of a gamepad :)
what i like about console games with gamepads is that it puts the emphasis less on accuracy, and vis-a-vis more on teamwork and strategy; in something like counter strike; one great (read: extremely accurate) player can decimate, but with consoles it levels the playing field a bit so everyone has a chance; this of course is what lots of pc gamers hate ;)
squeekyMop
09-29-07, 09:27 PM
oh is it ? I was on youtube and i was watching the xfps 360 pro in action, it seemed pretty impressive. The reviews people gave was mediocore, but i dunno.
NOThelagak
10-04-07, 10:53 AM
oh is it ? I was on youtube and i was watching the xfps 360 pro in action, it seemed pretty impressive. The reviews people gave was mediocore, but i dunno.
i had a smartjoy frag for my xbox, and it was impressive how well it worked.... for some things. i bought it for halo2. in halo we usually play snipers and swords levels. well i got the smartjoy frag, and hooked it up. it made me a GOD at sniping, but i was worthless close up. so, after a while i just gave up and went back to game pads.
i say if you prefer keyboard/mouse and really wanna play a console game like halo3 or something, AND its < $20~$25 then give it a try. you might really like it. i loved it at first, but it wore on me very fast.
~just my 2¢
supposed to be pretty lousy; enjoy the comfortable inaccuracy of a gamepad :)
what i like about console games with gamepads is that it puts the emphasis less on accuracy, and vis-a-vis more on teamwork and strategy; in something like counter strike; one great (read: extremely accurate) player can decimate, but with consoles it levels the playing field a bit so everyone has a chance; this of course is what lots of pc gamers hate ;)
I can't really agree with this. Console games have their share of 1337 gamers and the controller really isn't that inaccurate it just takes some getting used to. Sniping is never as accurate but it works.
NsOmNiA91130
10-04-07, 04:18 PM
Console games have their share of 1337 gamers and the controller really isn't that inaccurate it just takes some getting used to.
I agree, if the game was made for a certain controller, be it a mouse or gamepad, it'll always work better on what it's designed for. Halo pretty much invented the modern FPS control scheme, and it was done extremely well.
I agree, if the game was made for a certain controller, be it a mouse or gamepad, it'll always work better on what it's designed for. Halo pretty much invented the modern FPS control scheme, and it was done extremely well.
...? all fps controls are pretty much the same, anyone can pick up a ps2 or xbox controller and be able to play the fps
Scott9027
10-07-07, 02:31 PM
They are all the same because everybody adopted the system that Bungie introduced with Halo.
Twigglish
10-07-07, 02:37 PM
...? all fps controls are pretty much the same, anyone can pick up a ps2 or xbox controller and be able to play the fps
....No, not really.
zexmarquies01
10-07-07, 05:30 PM
They are all the same because everybody adopted the system that Bungie introduced with Halo.
And this people, is why halo is so popular. misinformation. simple as that.
there have been MANY FPS games to come out on consoles that started the control scheme WAY Before halo.
now, i honestly can't remember the first...But how can you forget Wolfenstein?, Or DOOM? Or even Goldeneye for the N64. ( yes, i know its not as old as doom ). While wolfenstein is NOT the oldest FPS game, its more of today's style of FPS than most games before it.
i HONESTLY can't find which FPS game was the first to be ported onto a console, but i know at least one of the earlier ones was Doom.
But it needs mentioned that the modern control style for a FPS was invented on the computer. thats where it started. and yes, i know that a keyboard/mouse is way different than a gamepad. But, it had to be said either way :D
But sorry man, but halo did NOT invent the modern control scheme for a FPS, even on the console.
this post is not entirely aimed at scott, but also nsomnia91130, and anyone else who thinks halo invented the modern control scheme for FPS.
Scott9027
10-07-07, 09:32 PM
Do you really think that Goldeneye and Halo have the same control scheme?
zexmarquies01
10-07-07, 10:25 PM
Do you really think that Goldeneye and Halo have the same control scheme?
well, they use different controllers...yes...but in general..YES!
1 - you could CHANGE the controller layout on Goldeneye. So you could make it what you want.
But before that, Doom on the SNES. You moved with they D-pad, you shot and changed weapons with the buttons.
Tell me how moving with a D-pad, shooting and changing weapons with the buttons is different than halo/2/3, and how bungee somehow invented the control scheme on the console?
and, Each console has its own controller. Each controller, due to its difference, will have a slightly different button layout. It happens, that due to the size and button layout of the Xbox and the 360 controller, the right shoulder button is the easiest to shoot with. you turn and straif with the analog stick..etc..etc. each FPS game on a specific console will usually have a control scheme that is very similar to other FPS games on the same console. Simply because of the controller design.
And Halo wasn't the 1st FPS on the Xbox. so thus, for the Xbox control scheme, they would have roughly used the style that was used on previous FPS games on the Xbox.
So then...how did halo somehow make a system that everyone adopted, when there have been FPS games on consoles since the SNES? ( maybe NES as well??? not sure ).
the ONLY way your statement could be true, is if Bungee designed and created a controller from scratch that somehow excell's at FPS's, and then other companies started requiring the use of that controller for their games as well.
Oh, and if "everybody" ( as you said yourself ) adopted the system Bungee somehow "put in place" then why did Metroid Prime Corruption for the WII not use the GameCube controller, and try to emulate halo, but instead went with the Wii-mote? When you say "Everybody" you should say something like "most FPS games on the Xbox, or 360" but by saying everybody, your entire argument gets shot down, with the mention of the Wii-mote, or the Keyboard/Mouse.
NsOmNiA91130
10-07-07, 10:27 PM
And Halo wasn't the 1st FPS on the Xbox. so thus, for the Xbox control scheme, they would have roughly used the style that was used on previous FPS games on the Xbox.
The hell? It came out WITH the Xbox! It was its flagship launch game.
zexmarquies01
10-07-07, 10:31 PM
The hell? It came out WITH the Xbox! It was its flagship launch game.
ok, i just checked...and you are right about that. Sorry, had my dates screwed up.
but that STILL doesn't explain...i dunno...DOOM, Wolfenstein, Goldeney, and the countless other FPS games that came out BEFORE halo.
ok, i just checked...and you are right about that. Sorry, had my dates screwed up.
but that STILL doesn't explain...i dunno...DOOM, Wolfenstein, Goldeney, and the countless other FPS games that came out BEFORE halo.
I'm pretty sure he was talking about the control scheme and you can't even melee people in any of those games so completely different control scheme except for the wasd controls on the pc version. And Doom doesn't have mouselook.
satandole666
10-07-07, 10:52 PM
I don't know about Halo 3, but Halo 1 and 2 have the "Legendary" control setup I believe (can't remember the name). It is identical to Goldeneye and what I have used in Halo since the beginning.
zexmarquies01
10-07-07, 10:55 PM
I'm pretty sure he was talking about the control scheme and you can't even melee people in any of those games so completely different control scheme except for the wasd controls on the pc version. And Doom doesn't have mouselook.
Melee isn't a control scheme, its a feature.
You have to press a button to melee.
You have to press a button to melee.
You have to press a button to shoot a gun, too. That doesn't make it a control scheme ;)
tenchi86
10-08-07, 01:11 AM
The game itself is good, though the controls are really nothing revolutionary. The Xbox controller itself is designed very well for FPS games and Halo was simply one of the best games to use the controller, not to mention the first.
i looked into it awhile back and it pretty crappy.
You have to press a button to shoot a gun, too. That doesn't make it a control scheme ;)
That button would have done something else on a different game. Different controls.
Burninate
10-08-07, 09:28 AM
I'm pretty sure he was talking about the control scheme and you can't even melee people in any of those games so completely different control scheme except for the wasd controls on the pc version. And Doom doesn't have mouselook.
Umm.... you can melee people in Golden eye and Doom as well. They just didn't have a specific button to do it. Remember slapping/karate chopping people in Golden Eye? Or even slap-only matches? They were a blast.
Godfather1138
10-08-07, 11:39 AM
Don't forget about The PS1 and PS2's efforts once they had the analog sticks. Rainbow6 and Siphon Filter are two great examples of quality FPS games that were around long before Halo was even a dream.
Ah yes I remember the karate chop now, but Goldeneyes controls are still radically different than Halos.
tenchi86
10-08-07, 05:13 PM
Because of the controller is different. There is only one joystick which means the entire control scheme must be changed.
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