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Racoon
12-19-01, 12:52 PM
PIII 650@910 FSB=140.

In sisoft sandra,
cpu benchmark: 2467 dhrystone, 1222 whetstone
cpu multimedia benchmark: 4948 integer, 6054 floating point

How does that compare to a standard PIII. Does it beat a PIII 933 or maybe a PIII 1GHz 100FSB?

Pinky
12-19-01, 02:36 PM
Those are good results. 2,800 is about what the P3 1ghz gets... 7,000 and change in multimedia with the EB (133 mhz bus) processor.

RainMaQer
12-19-01, 03:13 PM
D*MN good oc... my proc (listed in sig) gets 2703/1339 and 5423/6635 at current speed of 1GHz:D

Racoon
12-20-01, 01:53 PM
Hi guys, thanks for replying, i figured a PIII 1GHz 133FSB would trounce my cpu but i hoped it might beat a 100FSB. I was originally going to get a PIII 700 but this PIII 650 was such a good deal that i couldn't resist. I got it for 56 bucks, don't you agree its a good deal? Now i just wonder if it performs same as PIII 933.

Yodums
12-20-01, 02:55 PM
Great deal Racoon.

If your comparing a stock P3 933 and a overclocked to a 933 with everything the same components and setup then the overclocked will win since its running since everything is clocked, fsb, ram etc.

RainMaQer
12-21-01, 12:03 AM
If your comparing a stock P3 933 and a overclocked to a 933 with everything the same components and setup then the overclocked will win since its running since everything is clocked, fsb, ram etc.

I think I have to disagree with that... My proc at 1GHz is always justs 3-4 points lower than the reference p3 1GHz in Sandra.

Yodums
12-21-01, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by RainMaQer


I think I have to disagree with that... My proc at 1GHz is always justs 3-4 points lower than the reference p3 1GHz in Sandra.

Your forgetting that Sandra's marks have different setups than yours.

Thats why you will not read one review since every review has its own setup.

MilkPowder-2
12-22-01, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by Racoon
PIII 650@910 FSB=140.

In sisoft sandra,
cpu benchmark: 2467 dhrystone, 1222 whetstone
cpu multimedia benchmark: 4948 integer, 6054 floating point

How does that compare to a standard PIII. Does it beat a PIII 933 or maybe a PIII 1GHz 100FSB?

Your P3 650@ 910 will not beat a default clocked P3 933 nor P3 1000E in the CPU/CPU Multimedia benchmark. Yours clock multiplier is at 6.5. is quite lower than the 933(7.5x) and 1000E(10x). This particualr bench is CPU power dependent and very little effect on the FSB. You'll understand when you run each of these systems. However, if you take your P3 650 to run at default speed and compare with a default P3 667EB, you'll probably beat 667EB with it. It is the Memory benchmark where you'll see the shine with higher FSB, thus gradually improving the memory bandwidth. Another scenario, take a 1000E and run the CPU bench with a 1000EB and see how the 1000E beats 1000EB whereas in the memory bench, the 1000EB will beat 1000E no doubt. You see there pattern here? Hope this helps. I had a good discussion about this matter over at Hardocp forum a while back.. Good stuff..

Racoon
12-22-01, 09:54 PM
I'm not sure what you saying. This is what i think you are saying: the cpu benchmark only takes into account of the higher MHz. 933 is higher than 910 so it will beat it in this particular benchmark. My 910 will only beat a PIII 900. Is this what you mean? So i actually need another benchmarking tool.

MilkPowder-2
12-22-01, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Racoon
I'm not sure what you saying. This is what i think you are saying: the cpu benchmark only takes into account of the higher MHz. 933 is higher than 910 so it will beat it in this particular benchmark. My 910 will only beat a PIII 900. Is this what you mean? So i actually need another benchmarking tool.

Nooooo... it is not just "mhz" dependent in CPU/CPU Multi bench. I said, it's CPU power dependent. To clarify, it is the CPU Clock Multiplier that takes into greater account than anything else. The term having higher "overall mhz" than the other CPU helps in this particular bench so as the higher FSB(front side bus) but these don't count much, very little. it measures mostly in terms of CPU's clock multiplier. 8x for the 800E, 10x for the 1000E etc.. vs. 6x for the 600EB, 7.5x for the 1000EB and so on. if you want to know more I will have to dig the information from [H.]ardocp forum. A lot more discussion about it there. My username is different there, not MilkPowder-2.