View Full Version : More stream processors for the 8800GTS
DavidJa
10-04-07, 05:39 PM
It seems that Nvidia is planning another GeForce 8800 GTS SKU with more stream processors. This is to widen the performance gap between the upcoming 8800 GT and 8800 GTS as 8800 GT is coming too close and it might hurt the sales of 8800 GTS. As such, the number of stream processors is increased from 96 to 112 while the rest of the specs like 500/800 core/mem clock, 320-bit memory interface, 640MB GDDR3 memories remain unchanged.
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_Plans_New_GeForce_8800_GTS_SKU/5311.html#Scene_1
thideras
10-04-07, 05:55 PM
Hmm...thanks for the link. How much of a performance difference would there be?
nd4spdbh2
10-04-07, 06:49 PM
figures nvidia would do something like that... i wonder (bios from 8800gts 640mb w/ 112 sp) + 8800gts 640 w/ 96sp's ?
maybe JUST maybe something like this will work!
only time will tell... i would love to be able to flash the bios on my 8800gts for some extra sp's
i also wonder what they are going to do with the 8800gtx's and ultras... cus with the increase to 112 sps on the gts that would come VERY close to a gtx performance!
EDIT: and if its just a simple bios flash that allows more sp's this would mean we could get all the 128sp's unlocked with a modded bios!
benbaked
10-04-07, 08:01 PM
Is it slated for release next month? I'd like to step-up to a 640 MB card and if I can get one with more stream processors before my three months runs out...
Neural Net
10-05-07, 04:27 AM
It'll be interesting to see how this change will be handled, I can see a number of members feeling ripped off by being sold the old 8800s that were incorrectly labelled so that resellers could move their old stock, or am I being too cynical?
i wouldnt even think this would happen, until it does leave it at that. its not like you couldnt tell anyway.
Just like all the retailers dropping q6600 B3's instead of G0's... I could see the same happening with 8800gts's just as easily if this did actually happen. The average user isn't going to notice.
Neural Net
10-05-07, 04:52 AM
i wouldnt even think this would happen, until it does leave it at that. its not like you couldnt tell anyway.
Yes it's not like we couldn't tell. But not everyone who buys a 8800 card even knows what a stream processor is, nevermind how many there should be. Unless it is clearly stated on the box, it would put me off buying a 8800 GTS.
yeah I wouldnt unless it was completley clear which was which.
Neural Net
10-05-07, 05:46 AM
yeah I wouldnt unless it was completley clear which was which.
See that's the interesting thing, will nVidia keep it quiet, where only the enthusiasts will know the difference or will they openly state that they've changed the GPU? Don't know which decision would be better from a marketing perspective.
well its been reported, not so much announed yet that its a totally new SKU, so everyone record the current sku's lol. I only buy evga so i will just record their sku's
DavidJa
10-05-07, 09:24 AM
See that's the interesting thing, will nVidia keep it quiet, where only the enthusiasts will know the difference or will they openly state that they've changed the GPU? Don't know which decision would be better from a marketing perspective.
There is also an interesting side note that NVIDIA will NOT be doing any formal launch activities, press announcements, website updates, or any other marketing around this new sku. Partners can conduct their own marketing activities around the sku as they see fit.
they seem to be keeping quiet i'd be careful if you think about buying.
Neural Net
10-05-07, 09:53 AM
they seem to be keeping quiet i'd be careful if you think about buying.
Thanks for the info! Good to know. :)
i dont see them doing anything different compared to when they release any other cards lol.
I wouldnt say there's anything to worry about at this point. besides the card aint even out yet... and neither is the other one
Neural Net
10-05-07, 10:16 AM
Well Rattle, they've never just quietly upped the amount of stream processors on a graphics card before. From the fact that they will not announce the improved SKU, you can bet that is a move designed to stop any potential sales going to the GTS instead of the GTX and it's a move the manufacturers may decide to copy.
But who knows, some sites are pretty detailed on what they sell, so one might not get caught out after all. We shall wait and see. :)
thats becuase they never had stream processors on cards before the 8800's.
all I am saying is they've done nothing differently before the release of this card than any other. Plus we already know about it....who knows with the 8800gt coming maybe the 320 will be dropped along with the original 640's
i also wonder what they are going to do with the 8800gtx's and ultras... cus with the increase to 112 sps on the gts that would come VERY close to a gtx performance!
My OC'd 320 already beats a lot of GTX's in benchmarks. Give me more SP's and it'd be an aggravating situation for someone who spent way more $ on the GTX.
freeagent
10-05-07, 03:21 PM
it might beat it in 06, but try playing that new game at the same settings you can on a gtx, theres definately more to gameing than just running 3dmark. its a good card, but its not a great card :)
nd4spdbh2
10-05-07, 04:07 PM
big time... yes a 8800gts 320 heavily clocked might beat a 8800gtx @ stock clocks... but i can guarentee you throw in some high quality textures, tripple buffering and some AA and AF... the gtx will pull ahead without even thinking.
Depends on the resolution as well. The memory on a 320 limits it to lower resolutions if you want all the eyecandy. Id like to see what the difference is between a new more sp 8800 and a GTX. Cause getting a GTX would make no sense if I can get almost as good performace for cheaper.
Give us Benchmarks. lots of them.
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