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Mr Threepwood
10-04-07, 05:56 PM
I just got my XFX 8800 GTS 320MB and wanted to test this out, but 3DMARK03, 3DMARK05 & 3DMARK06 all locks up and crashes. 3DMARK01SE works well aswell as Aquamark 3, and I seen no instability in any real games.
Anyone have a clue to why I can't run 3DMARK on my system? I tried to use a all default settings on both GPU and CPU but same result.

My DxDiag is attatched in this message.
thideras
10-04-07, 05:57 PM
What temp is the card hitting under load? Use RivaTuner to monitor.

What are your FULL system specs? With the PSU, include rail amps.
Mr Threepwood
10-05-07, 04:07 AM
The temp never rises over 64 degrees Celcius, so overheat shouldn't be a problem.
My PSU is a NorthQ 4001BX ATX 400W, and I also thought maybe I got to little power but then again why can't I make any game fail by this fact? Why only 3DMark?
thideras
10-05-07, 04:09 AM
The temp never rises over 64 degrees Celcius, so overheat shouldn't be a problem.
My PSU is a NorthQ 4001BX ATX 400W, and I also thought maybe I got to little power but then again why can't I make any game fail by this fact? Why only 3DMark?That is DEFINITELY the problem. That power supply is FAR from being able to power that computer. You need to get another. I highly recommend the Corsair line.
Mr Threepwood
10-05-07, 05:13 PM
That is DEFINITELY the problem. That power supply is FAR from being able to power that computer. You need to get another. I highly recommend the Corsair line.

Just ordered a Corsair HX Series Modular Power Supply 520W, hope this works well :D Thx for the advice!
Any clue to why no games have freezed the computer?
El<(')>Maxi
10-05-07, 05:52 PM
What games, some stress a card alot more than others.
DevilMan24
10-05-07, 08:55 PM
3dmark will not run so...
Q: I just bought a new ATI Radeon HD series graphics adapter and 3DMark06 freezes during the splash-screen. What is wrong and how can I fix this?
A: This is a known issue and we have been able to reproduce it in our test lab. The problem lays in an DLL which we use to detect the graphics cards' core and memory speeds. We are working on an update to correct this issue after which all Futuremark benchmarks should run fine with the latest offerings from all IHV's. Until then you can work around this issue either by renaming the "Direcpll.dll" file (found in %WINDIR%\system32\Futuremark\MSC\) to something else, or you can run the benchmark using the -nosysteminfo command line. Please note that if you use the -nosysteminfo command line, you will not be able to publish the result online. Futuremark will inform all its users when the update is available!

Might see if something with nVidia cards cause your probs.
The answer to my prob might be your answer to.
El<(')>Maxi
10-05-07, 09:01 PM
No that problem is specific to the 2900.
DevilMan24
10-05-07, 09:07 PM
Score
El<(')>Maxi 1
Me 0
Mr Threepwood
10-07-07, 01:53 PM
It's a power issue, I boosted all levels upp on S.T.A.L.K.E.R and got the crash.
Hope this new powersupply can fix this :P
aja
10-07-07, 02:20 PM
when does your new PSU arrive?

keep us updated or we will hunt you down!
Tweak486Dx2
10-07-07, 02:38 PM
Is your cpu overclocked at all?? When I was new to overclocking my games would run also but benches (mainley it was 01 back then) would crash.


PSU being overworked just usually shuts off the computer and a simple push of the power button fires it right back up. Your saying your getting freezing and lock-ups.

He only has a 4000+ and a 8800gts. I was running a 4200 and a 8800Gts on a Antec 350 for over a month without a hiccup. AND 06 would run all day long with the 8800 overclocked to the max.

Do all your fans slow down when you fire up a 3d program?
thideras
10-07-07, 03:25 PM
PSU being overworked just usually shuts off the computer and a simple push of the power button fires it right back up. Your saying your getting freezing and lock-ups. An overloaded PSU can also cause instability from the rail voltages starting to go too high or too low. It won't always shut down, the most common I've seen is it just locks.




He only has a 4000+ and a 8800gts. I was running a 4200 and a 8800Gts on a Antec 350 for over a month without a hiccup. AND 06 would run all day long with the 8800 overclocked to the max.Those are two VERY different psu's. Your just comparing the "final wattage" which they could be exaggerating or our lying about. You can't even come close to comparing them directly ;)
aja
10-07-07, 04:04 PM
An overloaded PSU can also cause instability from the rail voltages starting to go too high or too low. It won't always shut down, the most common I've seen is it just locks.


I agree. It seldom becomes unstable enough to just shut down. Voltages fluctuate wildly and you will get BSOD's...
Mr Threepwood
10-09-07, 03:43 PM
Follow up folks!

New PSU arrived! Whooo! 520W Corsair HX :P Booted up 3DMark05 and benched it! Freezed up right away :mad: What the hell I thought I just left the computer in anger to watch the new Simpsons episode...
Just as a fun thing I downgraded my driver to 97.92 from 163.71 WHQL, booted up 3DMark05 and ran like a beuty on highest settings. So now we got it down to a software error, why did the system become unstable with 163.71? Is there an issue i'm unaware of?

I really need help now!

EDIT: Tested 163.76 BETA, same crash result :(
Tweak486Dx2
10-09-07, 04:22 PM
I told u it wasnt the PSU. Sounded like an overclock issue or possible software problem.


I would do a fresh OS install.



You did need a PSU though, that one would have S_it the bed eventually.
OnDborder
10-09-07, 04:38 PM
The 163.71's aren't FM approved anyway.
http://www.futuremark.com/community/approved/
UglyChild
10-09-07, 07:21 PM
Just get the 163.76 from Guru site.
Mr Threepwood
10-11-07, 03:48 PM
I did a clean OS install, tested 163.76 & 158.19 that the card came with. Still the same **** with the freeze crash, but here is the funny thing.
I can run Firefly Forrest demo at max details and this is a heavy demo, and do it 20 times in a row with no crash. But If i try Return To Proxycon or Canyon Flight I get the crash, why is it isolated to some thing only? If the card was faulty wouldn't I get the crash in all heavy demos?
I'm so frustrated now! :bang head

I sent this to XFX to, just to hear thier oppinion.
El<(')>Maxi
10-11-07, 03:51 PM
Vista?
Tweak486Dx2
10-11-07, 03:56 PM
Is anything possibly overheating? A clean install elimanates software as a problem, what are your bios settings like? Are they just factory defaults or are you manually setting them?

Some benchmarks may look less intense to us but can be way more power hungry then others.

Sounds like something is getting hot under stress.

Was this 8800 an upgrade for an older card? Just trying to see if the 8800 is the only new part in your system.

If possible try another card with fresh drivers and see if the problem is still there. Or try the card in another system.


Also re-install your nforce 4 drivers if u didnt already.
Mr Threepwood
10-12-07, 08:09 AM
Is anything possibly overheating? A clean install elimanates software as a problem, what are your bios settings like? Are they just factory defaults or are you manually setting them?

Some benchmarks may look less intense to us but can be way more power hungry then others.

Sounds like something is getting hot under stress.

Was this 8800 an upgrade for an older card? Just trying to see if the 8800 is the only new part in your system.

If possible try another card with fresh drivers and see if the problem is still there. Or try the card in another system.


Also re-install your nforce 4 drivers if u didnt already.

The OS is XP just so we got that clear, right now i'm running stock values in BIOS and GPU. So there can be no overclock issue, it's a standard system now.
And no heat issue what so ever, I attached the log file from RivaTuner. This log starts when I begin the Return To Proxycon demo, as you can see when the system freezed up on me I had no temp to speak of. Only 3 Degrees higher then when it was idling, so we can scratch heat and overclock issues now.
New XP install and fresh NF4 chipset drivers don't do a damn thing for this problem, I'm starting to give up on this card.

The 8800 was an upgrade from my old 6800, and it's the only new component in the system.
jason4207
10-12-07, 08:21 AM
Call XFX. Maybe they can narrow down the problem for you, or issue an RMA if the card is indeed faulty.
Cheator
10-12-07, 08:25 AM
[QUOTE=DevilMan24;5278517]3dmark will not run so...

Might see if something with nVidia cards cause your probs.
The answer to my prob might be your answer to.[/QUOTEHoly crap! you solved my problem. Thanks for that, however inadvertent it was!
Mr Threepwood
10-24-07, 11:46 AM
I put my 8800GTS in my HTPC with my old 400W PSU, and it works really well there. So i'm left with one error source, the motherboard.
What is causing the Abit KN-8 to crash the 8800GTS, is it giving the PCI-E to little juice or what? Cause the MSI in my HTPC also has nForce4 chipset as the Abit mobo has, can I fix it or is that mobo history?
UglyChild
10-24-07, 12:10 PM
Try updating BIOS to latest. After that reset CMOS. That might work.