Help with GA-P35-DS3L and Allderine E2160

[Suigyoken]

Hi there, It's a first time post and my first time overclocking and I have a problem with it... I can seem to go around in the 2.2 Ghz range but if I try to say, set the speed to 9 x 300 and upon saving and exiting BIOS will suddenly shut off and turn on and off for 20 seconds to reset itself and return to the default settings. Strange as it is since both my CPU and motherboard have been tauted to be easily and flawlessly overclockable. Here is a shot from CPU-Z of what it's currently at;
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2480/cpuztn0.png

And here is a shot from the BIOS
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4008/s7300102ap1.jpg

Please help since I hope to play around with some games at 2.5-3.0 Ghz speed since I've been stuck in the 1.8-2.0 era too long :b And thanks to all who help with their time and effort.

Here is more information on my system;
RAM: G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
PSU: RAIDMAX Hybrid 2 RX-530SS ATX12V 530W

[johnjohngoose]

Suigyoken,
First of all, set your memory multiplier to 2.0. It likely can operate above 800MHz, but let's make sure it's not holding you back. (You can set it higher than 2.0 if you want to, but make sure that the memory frequency does not exceed 800MHz for now).

How does your system react when you (1) set the memory multiplier to 2.0, (2) switch the system volage control to Manual and put the CPU Vcore to stock (1.325V), (3) Disable the robust graphics booster, and (4) set your FSB (CPU Host Frequency) to 300MHz with a CPU clock ratio of 8x?

If your system does not boot stably at these settings, try dropping the FSB or the CPU clock ratio. We need to develop a good idea of what your system can do at stock voltages before raising the Vcore or FSB voltage, etc.

Also, what program are you using to stress-test your CPU and what temps are you getting?

(In case you're wondering, one of my computers has a very similar setup: a Gigabyte P35-DS3R and an E2140)

[Evilsizer]

well my first thought would be to junk that psu for something better, thats just me. For the E2xxx your gonna need to bump the cpu-v up as get closer to 3ghz.

[sp33dball]

well my first thought would be to junk that psu for something better, thats just me. For the E2xxx your gonna need to bump the cpu-v up as get closer to 3ghz.

No joke on the PSU, you're going to want quality if you plan on keeping your computer for very long. These can become unstable and short out (sometimes taking lots of computer parts with them).

[Suigyoken]

Okay seems the robust graphics booster has no option be be disabled, however right now I'm currently running my computer at 8x300 Fsb! Seems SMP at 2.0 did do the trick, but with my current PSU... how far could I go without killing my system? and what would you recommend as a brand and good wattage (I'm thinking around 600-650W?) for someone who has a budget type build?

[Jojo1971]

Try to increase the DDR2 voltage...

[Evilsizer]

Okay seems the robust graphics booster has no option be be disabled, however right now I'm currently running my computer at 8x300 Fsb! Seems SMP at 2.0 did do the trick, but with my current PSU... how far could I go without killing my system? and what would you recommend as a brand and good wattage (I'm thinking around 600-650W?) for someone who has a budget type build?

its not really high wattage we are talking about here... we mean high quality PCB in the psu. this one here for $69 is a much better choice then the one you have, even at 500watts.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=PS-E5150GH

alot of cheap psu's like the one you have are overrated on the wattage.
here is the list i always suggest looking over, its psu's $150 and under.
http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1460

[Suigyoken]

What would you suggest? +.1 or .2V? And everything seems to be running smoothly, and right now running at 2.7 Ghz I get around 35C after playing HL:LC on high with desktop res (1440x900)

[Evilsizer]

What would you suggest? +.1 or .2V? And everything seems to be running smoothly, and right now running at 2.7 Ghz I get around 35C after playing HL:LC on high with desktop res (1440x900)

suggest for what the psu or the voltage for your ram? as at stock on that board its 1.8 so ever .1 increases that, so if you did .2 it would be 2.0v.

[Suigyoken]

Oh that was for Jojo1971, but it seems to be all running fine right now. Would you suggest I try 2.9-3.0? Or not lest I kill my PSU/components? And I think I will get that PSU next paycheck so thanks for recommending me it :3

[johnjohngoose]

You shouldn't need to touch your DDR voltage unless your memory clock is [a decent amount] over 800 Mhz.

I would highly recommend that you take Evilsizer's advice on a good PSU.
What components do you have (or plan to have) in your computer?
Because a high power output does not a good PSU make!

Unless you are planning on SLI + overclocking + multiple drives etc etc, you likely won't need more than 400W.
See this thread: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=512807&highlight=Earthwatts+380

Plus, a lower-end PSU (e.g. anything Raidmax) runs comparatively inefficiently -- and most lower-end cards run especially inefficiently when the system is drawing a relatively low amount of power and it's hitting low on the efficiency curve.

[Suigyoken]

Well I plan on using just a single PcixE card with maybe two to three USB devices at a time, I've got a wireless PCI card installed and I'm thinking of getting a video capture card. But I suppose a good 500W PSU would do me good, and I'm already set on getting that Enhance PSU. And it seems good enough since I haven't touched my DDR voltage yet and looks like I don't need to at all :b But on the issue with my PSU, if anything my current Raidmax will be in there for a week till I order the new one and will probably be a backup PSU or used for a low end build in the future (Or I could just return it since I just got it yesterday) But right now I'm running my CPU at 2.8 and it's around 35C while running a few programs... is this a good base temp?

[sp33dball]

Well I plan on using just a single PcixE card with maybe two to three USB devices at a time, I've got a wireless PCI card installed and I'm thinking of getting a video capture card. But I suppose a good 500W PSU would do me good, and I'm already set on getting that Enhance PSU. And it seems good enough since I haven't touched my DDR voltage yet and looks like I don't need to at all :b But on the issue with my PSU, if anything my current Raidmax will be in there for a week till I order the new one and will probably be a backup PSU or used for a low end build in the future (Or I could just return it since I just got it yesterday) But right now I'm running my CPU at 2.8 and it's around 35C while running a few programs... is this a good base temp?

Those temps look good... What you're really going to want to look at are the temps under load, that's your main concern. Programs such as Orthos or Prime (google) will stress your cpu to high heavens and show you stability and temps.

[Danomite]

Hey dude, I'm going to help you out since I'm a nice guy ;)

I have the same mobo, same CPU, same memory and I had the same issues, couldn't get the CPU to go above 1.8GHz stock, it should easily do 3.0GHz on this board. I'll tell you exactly why you can't get it to overclock properly. Read carefully.

Look at the field "Memory Frequency".

Your setings currently show "800 1000", what does this mean? This is important. The first number is the rated SPD for your GSKILL, it's capable of 800MHz (more actually), the 2nd # is what you've currently got it running at with your current settings. So, with your 250MHz, it's set to run at 1000MHz! The GSKILL is good, but not that good! This is a massive overclock of the memory. It does this because it uses the default SPD multiplier (AUTO), you'll have to go to System Memory multiplier and change this to something more reasonable, like a 2 (which is a 1:2 ratio) or a 2.4 or 2.5. After you do this you'll see the 2nd number in the Memory frequency change to something equal or lower to 800. This is what you want. Always keep that 2nd number reasonable.

You can easily change the bus speed to 333MHz and have the FSB running at 1333MHz. Make sure your memory multiplier has your ram running at 800 - 900 (not 1333! - you will need to change your multiplier to 4 (1:4)). I set voltages to auto, but you can go manual if you want.

[JamesXP]

Before you even try overclocking..... get a new PSU.

[Suigyoken]

Alright well here is what my BIOS has in it now;

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/8800/s7300104cs7.jpg

Seems that having the system clock to 2.0 is going by what Danomite says and has the GSKILL at a lower clock to compensate for it. And currently I'm going to get This PSU (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817372002&Tpk=Enhance%2bENP-5150GH) (ewiz doesn't seem to have it anymore...) so the system wont fail on me in one week. Thank you to everyone who helped I'll post results within the week =D

[Evilsizer]

yea looks like they are OSS at ewiz... for the price newegg is asking go here and get this one instead..
http://www.provantage.com/antec-tp3-550~7ANTS02K.htm
either that or go here and get this one
http://www.jr.com/JRProductPage.process?Product_Id=4169665&JRSource=googlebase.datafeed.ANT+27500

all of the psu's i suggest come from the list i posted earlier here.