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RollingThunder

10-05-07, 09:18 PM

I am going to give my little brother my PSU, he has a turbolink and its crap, and I am looking to buy something in the 750-1000 watt range as an upgrade. I love my Silverstone but just looking for some suggestions. Don't want something that sounds like a jet taking off and that can handle just about anything. Suggestions?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

Drew@PSU

10-05-07, 09:20 PM

You could try the PCPC 750Quad Silencer, its a beat of a PSU and not all that loud. 60 Amps on the single rail, should be good until we are at like 32trillion cores...

Or if you don't want to spend that much, there's the Corsair HX620, with 54 Amps on a single rail, watts aren't everything :D

Edit: RT beat me to it, I need to type faster....

rlemieux

10-05-07, 11:14 PM

Is this the same PSU?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3247720&Sku=P227-1002&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&CMP=OTC-GOOGLEBASE

Hazaro

10-05-07, 11:19 PM

I believe it comes in two types, a SLI and Crossfire.

Four 6 PCIe pins, and two 6 pins and two 8 pins respectively.

Or maybe I'm talking about something completely different.

Spawn-Inc

10-06-07, 12:29 AM

Enermax galaxy 850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194020) or 1000 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194019) watt.

rlemieux

10-07-07, 10:19 AM

RollingThunder

10-07-07, 10:58 AM

Any other suggestions? Think I might go with the Copper Silencer 750, but would like a couple more options.

What about the Silverstone ST75F or ST75ZF? How do they compare to the PC power and Cooling?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256006

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256009

rl,

Here are some great reviews on many bigger units:

http://jonnyguru.com/reviews.php

You really can't go wrong with Silverstone or PCP&C units. The Silencer will be quieter but if your running a big vid card single or SLI, it probably doesn't matter.

Oklahoma Wolf

10-07-07, 11:48 AM

What about the Silverstone ST75F or ST75ZF? How do they compare to the PC power and Cooling?

The 75F doesn't compete. The 75ZF competes directly with the Turbocools, and is a notch above the Seasonic built Silencers for build quality. Not silence oriented though.

The true competition for the Silencer 750W is the Corsair HX620 and Seasonic M12 line. All three are Seasonic OEM. I would also consider the Ultra X3 line for something silent and yet very well built. Thermaltake's Toughpower line also deserves a look, particularly the 1kW and up models.

knolle

10-07-07, 12:41 PM

go Enermax galaxy and you will not be disappointed

osiris999

10-08-07, 03:26 PM

http://www.eastluna.com/hardware/details.php?id=2717

rlemieux

10-10-07, 10:04 PM

Any thoughts on this one ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256010

Goonda

10-10-07, 10:24 PM

Any thoughts on this one ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256010

Excellent choice! Seventeam built. Solid unit. It can take a hit from an Abrams or a T90 and still stand. :)

Joeteck

10-11-07, 08:55 AM

Is this the same PSU?

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3247720&Sku=P227-1002&SRCCODE=GOOGLEBASE&CMP=OTC-GOOGLEBASE

I own this power supply, its awesome... Its SLI certified to two 8800GTX's... The QUAD stands for four 6 pin video card connectors. I'm only using one for my 7900GTX.

Its good to see you're upgrading to a bigger and better power supply. Future proofing yourself.

Immortal_Hero

10-11-07, 09:33 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

Have one and love it. Hopefully I won't have to buy another PSU for a very long time.

Joeteck

10-11-07, 09:38 AM

Have one and love it. Hopefully I won't have to buy another PSU for a very long time.

I agree. Doing it right the first time, allows you to spend more money elsewhere instead of replacing bad PS every time you have a problem... ;)

Immortal_Hero

10-11-07, 09:54 AM

Any thoughts on this one ?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817256010

Overpriced IMO.

Goonda

10-11-07, 10:28 AM

Overpriced IMO.

Why?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058%201131428171&bop=And&Order=PRICE&Page=1&FieldChange=Y&FieldChoose=16%2C15%2C10%2C14%2C18%2C13%2C21

Find me a unit of comparable build quality for a lower price than $250 AMIR? :confused:

I get it that everybody has their pet units, but come on now...

Joeteck

10-11-07, 10:56 AM

Why?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058%201131428171&bop=And&Order=PRICE&Page=1&FieldChange=Y&FieldChoose=16%2C15%2C10%2C14%2C18%2C13%2C21

Find me a unit of comparable build quality for a lower price than $250 AMIR? :confused:

I get it that everybody has their pet units, but come on now...

Only three (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058+1131428171+1230113790&Configurator=&Subcategory=58&description=&Ntk=&srchInDesc=) meet my needs of a single 12v rail..but are over the $250 mark, and are also 1000 watts...

You're better off with a 750 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058%201131428169%201230113790&bop=And&Order=PRICED) Watter, for cost..

Goonda

10-11-07, 11:00 AM

Exactly. Finding a good sub $250 1kW unit is going to be very hard if not impossible.

Oklahoma Wolf

10-11-07, 11:35 AM

Exactly. Finding a good sub $250 1kW unit is going to be very hard if not impossible.

http://www.directron.com/ult40064.html :p

Joeteck

10-11-07, 12:14 PM

http://www.directron.com/ult40064.html :p

So how is it, do you like it?

Oklahoma Wolf

10-11-07, 12:19 PM

They're excellent Andyson server grade units. I don't have one, but if I was in the market it would be a strong contender. They're quieter than the OP1000 too.

Joeteck

10-11-07, 12:49 PM

They're excellent Andyson server grade units. I don't have one, but if I was in the market it would be a strong contender. They're quieter than the OP1000 too.

Ah... recommending something you have no experience with... gotcha.

I would not get it... regardless of what ever "grade" they may be... They need to be out in the field a lttle longer to try to make a name for themselves....

I would stick with PSs I know and trust.... worth the extra $$

Rattle

10-11-07, 12:55 PM

Ah... recommending something you have no experience with... gotcha.

I would not get it... regardless of what ever "grade" they may be... They need to be out in the field a lttle longer to try to make a name for themselves....

I would stick with PSs I know and trust.... worth the extra $$

dude you are so freaking ignorant and infantile its just unimagainable at times. That is a INSANELY good psu and Wolf is an INSANELY knowledgable and experienced person specifically with power supplies. He does things to them to come to these conclusions so he can tell all of US whats best that you wouldnt even understand.

Oklahoma Wolf

10-11-07, 12:57 PM

Ah... recommending something you have no experience with... gotcha.

I said I didn't have one, not that I had no experience with it :p

Joeteck

10-11-07, 01:05 PM

I said I didn't have one, not that I had no experience with it :p

Some reviews (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=405&type=expert&pid=7) I don't really trust. It would seem from reading this review, that the Ultra X3 performed well. We should also keep in mind that, Ultra could have given them the "best of the bunch" unit to test. Which BTW, happens alot. So until the Ultra X3 is out for some time, and has proved it worthiness, I'm sticking with names I know and trust. Just my opinion.

Rattle

10-11-07, 01:07 PM

Oklahoma Wolf

10-11-07, 01:16 PM

We should also keep in mind that, Ultra could have given them the "best of the bunch" unit to test.

I know the guy who gave Lee that review unit. Personally. He doesn't do stuff like that. Lee's merits as a reviewer aside, his is not the only good review of this unit out there. The facts are, this unit has been out a long time and has proven itself. And that's my opinion.

RollingThunder

10-11-07, 01:19 PM

Ah... recommending something you have no experience with... gotcha.

Joe,

We try to treat everyone with respect here, from the experienced to the beginners. Your comment was entirely uncalled for and out of line. Please leave your testosterone flashes at home.

Joeteck

10-11-07, 01:22 PM

http://www.jonnyguru.com/review_details.php?id=103

how bout that review joe? not up to your standards either? or do you have more experience testing silverstones than ultras or you know and trust them better ?

Nope, Jonny's reviews I trust....100%. He tells it like it is... non-BIAS.. What I like....

So what kind of power supply do you have / use?

Rattle

10-11-07, 01:26 PM

Nope, Jonny's reviews I trust....100%. He tells it like it is... non-BIAS.. What I like....

So what kind of power supply do you have / use?

jonny didnt review it

corsair 620 in sig is what i use.

Joeteck

10-11-07, 01:39 PM

dude you are so freaking ignorant and infantile its just unimagainable at times. That is a INSANELY good psu and Wolf is an INSANELY knowledgable and experienced person specifically with power supplies. He does things to them to come to these conclusions so he can tell all of US whats best that you wouldnt even understand.

First off, there are alot of power supplies that are junk. I'll stress this again, a boat load of POWER SUPPLIES are junk!!!

A brand new company comes out with a power supply and tries to make a name for itself. The reviews are good, power is good, tons of reviews are out there on how "good" it is.... yet, no one has it... why? Rattle, you have a corsair power supply....risky IMO. Corsair makes memory, not power supplies... I myself would never have gotten it. There are many others out there that would beat it down for the money. If you can, provide the UL number on it so we can see who really made it... I'm sure you bought it based on reviews, not the name. Just curious, What did you have before it?

A forum is based on opinions. I'm entitled to mine, and my replies are not ignorant. I just like to see the whole picture, and not part of it. I've been in many situations where someone claims says something is good, and then fails to perform. When I look for PC parts I go for the best bang for the buck, always...

Such is this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023)

This is a Thermal take 430 watt power supply. Its absolutely awesome. For the money it performs great. I needed a single 12v rail power supply that can perform. I have 14 of these. My opinions are MY opinions... sorry if I offended anyone, as that was not my intention...

Goonda

10-11-07, 02:07 PM

Some reviews (http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=405&type=expert&pid=7) I don't really trust. It would seem from reading this review, that the Ultra X3 performed well. We should also keep in mind that, Ultra could have given them the "best of the bunch" unit to test. Which BTW, happens alot. So until the Ultra X3 is out for some time, and has proved it worthiness, I'm sticking with names I know and trust. Just my opinion.

How do you give someone the "best of the bunch" unit to test? Maybe you can elaborate on how PSU's are binned? This isn't DRAM where you can pull a bait and switch.

Do you have ANY experience running ATE tests on PSUs? Have you opened one up and even attempted a component analysis? OK Wolf has been there, done that and most of the memers who have heard of OK Wolf trust his judgement.

Maybe you should do your research (other than blindly quoting the material on PCP&C's website) before you try to call BS on somebody like OK Wolf.

Goonda

10-11-07, 02:14 PM

First off, there are alot of power supplies that are junk. I'll stress this again, a boat load of POWER SUPPLIES are junk!!!
Nobody disputes that. But Andyson =! Deer. :)

A brand new company comes out with a power supply and tries to make a name for itself. The reviews are good, power is good, tons of reviews are out there on how "good" it is.... yet, no one has it... why?
That is because Ultra had to climb out of the hole dug by Youngyear.

Rattle, you have a corsair power supply....risky IMO. Corsair makes memory, not power supplies... I myself would never have gotten it. There are many others out there that would beat it down for the money. If you can, provide the UL number on it so we can see who really made it... I'm sure you bought it based on reviews, not the name. Just curious, What did you have before it?
The same people who built your beloved PCP&C, Seasonic.

A forum is based on opinions. I'm entitled to mine, and my replies are not ignorant. I just like to see the whole picture, and not part of it. I've been in many situations where someone claims says something is good, and then fails to perform. When I look for PC parts I go for the best bang for the buck, always...
Fair enough. But it is probably not a good idea to come across as a know it all either.

Such is this (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153023)

This is a Thermal take 430 watt power supply. Its absolutely awesome. For the money it performs great. I needed a single 12v rail power supply that can perform. I have 14 of these. My opinions are MY opinions... sorry if I offended anyone, as that was not my intention...

That is a very average unit. Why? Undersized CapXcon on the Primary, Suscon garbage on the secondary. All of it on a 350W PCB. I have one on my desk right now, waiting to be recapped.
My point is, there are people who know things you don't, so maybe you can be a less condescending. I'll be the first to admit that I know almost nothing about SMPS design...

[Spectre]

10-11-07, 02:19 PM

Immortal_Hero

10-11-07, 02:21 PM

Rattle, you have a corsair power supply....risky IMO. Corsair makes memory, not power supplies... I myself would never have gotten it. There are many others out there that would beat it down for the money. If you can, provide the UL number on it so we can see who really made it... I'm sure you bought it based on reviews, not the name. Just curious, What did you have before it?

Dude the Corsairs are made by Seasonic one of the best know PSU maker in the world. Corsair doesn't make them they just slap their name on them. You need to take a chill pill. They have been tested by a lot of our members such as Wolf and Super Nade. I trust them over some random review site on the net.

Why?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010320058%201131428171&bop=And&Order=PRICE&Page=1&FieldChange=Y&FieldChoose=16%2C15%2C10%2C14%2C18%2C13%2C21

Find me a unit of comparable build quality for a lower price than $250 AMIR? :confused:

I get it that everybody has their pet units, but come on now...

Not saying it was over priced in it's class but you could save a lot of money with a 750 - 800 watt unit and still have more power than you will ever need.

Joeteck

10-11-07, 02:26 PM

How do you give someone the "best of the bunch" unit to test? Maybe you can elaborate on how PSU's are binned? This isn't DRAM where you can pull a bait and switch.

Do you have ANY experience running ATE tests on PSUs? Have you opened one up and even attempted a component analysis? OK Wolf has been there, done that and most of the memers who have heard of OK Wolf trust his judgement.

Maybe you should do your research (other than blindly quoting the material on PCP&C's website) before you try to call BS on somebody like OK Wolf.

I guess you really don't understand what I'm talking about...

I'll try to explain it better this time, with logistics...

Ok.

ABC company is making big bucks selling power supplies. XYZ wants to get in on it. XYZ starts to build power supplies, Distributors don't want to take the risk in a new product until some reviews are out. XYZ, make about 20 power supplies using the top notch components, the best of the best. They announce that they're coming out with a Energy Efficient low cost 1000 Watt power supply. They wait for reviewers to contact them, and send out all 20 they build from high end parts... Hey, alot is riding on the success of XYZ. They wait for the reviews to come out and shine... They send all the reviews to the distributors to convince them that their product is good, and wait for the orders to come in. They start to build another 100 or so power supplies, but cut back on the cost on some parts, but do it gradually. The first maybe 1000 power supplies may be good, but will then start to drop off and fail....

I need to see revisions of power supplies, changes, updates... What ever, to prove to me that the name can be trusted...

I just read another thread that the Corsair 620 is over heating....

Joeteck

10-11-07, 02:46 PM

This has gotten way to out of hand.... I never wanted this to get like this.... Sorry guys.... Continue the thread... I'll buy my power supplies and you buy yours... done.

Goonda

10-11-07, 07:23 PM

I guess you really don't understand what I'm talking about...

I'll try to explain it better this time, with logistics...

Ok.

ABC company is making big bucks selling power supplies. XYZ wants to get in on it. XYZ starts to build power supplies, Distributors don't want to take the risk in a new product until some reviews are out. XYZ, make about 20 power supplies using the top notch components, the best of the best. They announce that they're coming out with a Energy Efficient low cost 1000 Watt power supply. They wait for reviewers to contact them, and send out all 20 they build from high end parts... Hey, alot is riding on the success of XYZ. They wait for the reviews to come out and shine... They send all the reviews to the distributors to convince them that their product is good, and wait for the orders to come in. They start to build another 100 or so power supplies, but cut back on the cost on some parts, but do it gradually. The first maybe 1000 power supplies may be good, but will then start to drop off and fail....

I need to see revisions of power supplies, changes, updates... What ever, to prove to me that the name can be trusted...

I just read another thread that the Corsair 620 is over heating....

That would be suicide, because for a PSU company, there is no instant gratification. If a unit is substandard, it will show up as such. The loss of reputation is not worth the effort of a bait and switch. A bad rep will dog you for years.

Just ask Ultra, their X-Connect was a spectacular failure, no thanks to Youngyear. But that was years ago. People have still not forgotten. In such a business, is bait and switch really worth the consequences? I think not.

You just can't pull that crap with the level of awareness these days. Every online forum worth its salt has a few members who know enough about PSU's to keep the companies honest.

[Spectre]

10-11-07, 09:25 PM

Not only that but the units we get at least are sealed retail packaging. With the number I have had outright die on me, be DOA, or not pass it seems unlikely that there is widespread "cherry picking" or bait and switching going on or if there is people aren't doing such a good job of it (that is a joke I don't really think they are just making a point). I guess in theory someone could try to cherry pick the units that you send out but I doubt it is happening as even the units I know get tested before hand (ie PC P&C) perform differently in my hands than they did at the factory and if it did the negative fall out would be really really bad. To keep companies on their toes we often go outside and purchase our units at retail as well. So yeah I rather doubt it is a widespread issue at the moment.

Joeteck

10-11-07, 09:55 PM

;5288195']Not only that but the units we get at least are sealed retail packaging. With the number I have had outright die on me, be DOA, or not pass it seems unlikely that there is widespread "cherry picking" or bait and switching going on or if there is people aren't doing such a good job of it (that is a joke I don't really think they are just making a point). I guess in theory someone could try to cherry pick the units that you send out but I doubt it is happening as even the units I know get tested before hand (ie PC P&C) perform differently in my hands than they did at the factory and if it did the negative fall out would be really really bad. To keep companies on their toes we often go outside and purchase our units at retail as well. So yeah I rather doubt it is a widespread issue at the moment.

So there is no need for me to be paranoid, and trust what I read... Sounds good to me...You would know better than all of us... Thanks for the reply.