View Full Version : Merged 8800GT Review/Article Threads
Brolloks
10-28-07, 11:54 AM
Would you guys pick the XFX above PNY and MSI cards?
EagleClaw
10-28-07, 11:55 AM
True that's why I had hope they would list it seeing it won't ship out anyway until Monday anyway.
Arent Newegg closed Sundays for the most part? Nothing ships out on Sundays. I would imagine they have a skeleton crew around and simply havent updated their website to reflect release tomorrow.
rlemieux
10-28-07, 12:00 PM
I hope EVGA hurries up and releases one.
I hope EVGA hurries up and releases one.
Same...
Definitely don't pay that jacked up price. Most other places (probably not newegg) will sell it for $250
Most likely not since the XFX includes Comany of Heroes, that's what you're paying the extra $30 for.
This will be my next upgrade!
By single-slot design restrictions, GeForce8800GT standby (idle) temperature is 62 ° C, loading load (Load) reached a maximum after 86 ℃, the players are not satisfied with the original radiator...
Seems like it runs hot, but that is be assumed seeing as its single slot and stock cooler. I'm sure with a good 3rd party heatsink it would be cooler.
I can't wait til I can get my hands on one of these!
EagleClaw
10-28-07, 12:08 PM
I am not buying it for the game and will for sure get a EVGA but to bad if it's true they have bundled Quake Wars :(
I hope EVGA hurries up and releases one.
hmmm... she's cute. too bad you'll never see her cause it gets installed face down. :(
shipping one of these to NZ would be about $100. so if you want to give me like $400USD, maybe we can work something out. that would make it not worth it though.
I got her face down installation RIGHT HEEERE!.......uh....*walks away in shame*
Brolloks
10-28-07, 12:27 PM
256 MB version
http://www.shop.com/MSI_GeForce_8800_GT_Graphics_Card-44522740-58570059-p!.shtml?sourceid=298
EagleClaw
10-28-07, 12:35 PM
$120? wow and no fan, sweet
edit: looking at the specs it's NX8600GT-T2D256EZ, 8600??
256 MB version
http://www.shop.com/MSI_GeForce_8800_GT_Graphics_Card-44522740-58570059-p!.shtml?sourceid=298
GoldenTiger
10-28-07, 12:40 PM
$120? wow and no fan, sweet
Read the specs, it's an 8600GT, *NOT* an 8800GT.
Cisco Kid
10-28-07, 12:49 PM
Read the specs, it's an 8600GT, *NOT* an 8800GT.
pity the schmucks who freaked out and went and ordered one cause you know that has happened. What a friggin hassle lol
EagleClaw
10-28-07, 12:50 PM
And you know it's not a typo, I bet they did it on purpose to get site traffic and sales.
GoldenTiger
10-28-07, 12:53 PM
And you know it's not a typo, I bet they did it on purpose to get site traffic and sales.
Yep :(, hence why I posted the warning :(.
Caust1c
10-28-07, 12:56 PM
Any guesses to what the new GTSs will cost considering that the GTs are as cheap as they are? Im thinking about $320-$370 right? Because I just bought a 320Mb GTS and learned about the GT the day I got it in the mail. =( Horray for the EVGA step-up program!!! Also, on the EVGA site, it says that you can "Step up to a better performing card." Does this mean I will be able to step up to the GT 512. (I don't expect to get money back however)
i guess you should call and check to make sure, then post back here they're response.
Yep :(, hence why I posted the warning :(.
I think by doing that they're asking for some serious trouble, i.e. some really ****ed off customers.
Any guesses to what the new GTSs will cost considering that the GTs are as cheap as they are? Im thinking about $320-$370 right? Because I just bought a 320Mb GTS and learned about the GT the day I got it in the mail. =( Horray for the EVGA step-up program!!! Also, on the EVGA site, it says that you can "Step up to a better performing card." Does this mean I will be able to step up to the GT 512. (I don't expect to get money back however)
320MB are already $230 after rebate (LedTek)
Not sure about the 640MB
GoldenTiger
10-28-07, 01:13 PM
Any guesses to what the new GTSs will cost considering that the GTs are as cheap as they are? Im thinking about $320-$370 right? Because I just bought a 320Mb GTS and learned about the GT the day I got it in the mail. =( Horray for the EVGA step-up program!!! Also, on the EVGA site, it says that you can "Step up to a better performing card." Does this mean I will be able to step up to the GT 512. (I don't expect to get money back however)
I was told by a forum member at XS that they were allowed to switch cards in the past in a similar situation, just no money back. You should be safe :).
Caust1c
10-28-07, 01:15 PM
I was told by a forum member at XS that they were allowed to switch cards in the past in a similar situation, just no money back. You should be safe :).
Thanks, I think I'll e-mail the Tech support just to be safe. Ill post here with the reply. =D
Newegg Linked 8800GT Pictures! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-303-01.jpg%2c14-130-303-02.jpg%2c14-130-303-03.jpg%2c14-130-303-04.jpg%2c14-130-303-05.jpg%2c14-130-303-06.jpg%2c14-130-303-07.jpg%2c14-130-303-08.jpg%2c14-130-303-09.jpg%2c14-130-303-10.jpg)
I got it right this time...
I just linked the URL's, the product is not listed yet.
lordkosc
10-28-07, 02:45 PM
Its......... BEAUTIFUL
http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/404/141303030147595d9sh2.jpg
Caust1c
10-28-07, 02:50 PM
Newegg Linked 8800GT Pictures! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-303-01.jpg%2c14-130-303-02.jpg%2c14-130-303-03.jpg%2c14-130-303-04.jpg%2c14-130-303-05.jpg%2c14-130-303-06.jpg%2c14-130-303-07.jpg%2c14-130-303-08.jpg%2c14-130-303-09.jpg%2c14-130-303-10.jpg)
I got it right this time...
I just linked the URL's, the product is not listed yet.
KICKASS! That thing looks so sick!
ChinStrap
10-28-07, 03:18 PM
man, they might be listed tomorrow to buy.
i'll be watching this close :)
GoldenTiger
10-28-07, 03:19 PM
I've been watching it like a hawk all day with an autorefresher :eek: ... I want my pair of them for SLI *now*! :p
UnrealAlex
10-28-07, 03:38 PM
How come the cooler for the GTS is so huge, and for the GT so small even though it out performs the GTS?
GoldenTiger
10-28-07, 03:40 PM
How come the cooler for the GTS is so huge, and for the GT so small even though it out performs the GTS?
The GT is on a 65nm manufacturing process, making it run cooler/use less power.
UnrealAlex
10-28-07, 03:54 PM
ah sweet. So it's confirmed then that the 512GT would outperform my 320MB in everything?
now that the gt is for sale and we pretty much know what it does, i want info on the new gts
now that the gt is for sale and we pretty much know what it does, i want info on the new gts
I'm pooped from data hunting for the next few months :rolleyes:
Neural Net
10-28-07, 04:20 PM
Thanks for the link, Hazaro.
Looks purty! :D
ChinStrap
10-28-07, 05:09 PM
now that the gt is for sale and we pretty much know what it does, i want info on the new gts
i would to see some aswell... :)
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_Geforce_8800GT_Review/5369-1.html
:attn::attn::attn:
p.s. He's using a 3Ghz QX9650 so the result might be skewed a bit.
:attn::attn::attn:
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=1
:attn::attn::attn:
MORE DOMINATION! (Good review too, both need more on heat and overclocking :()
Jotosuds
10-28-07, 06:11 PM
my god.. :drool:
hank123
10-28-07, 06:25 PM
sweet. i want one now!
omniskillz
10-28-07, 06:25 PM
woops. delete this post then ;P
I was first >:O
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=533093
:attn:
Fr3@k3r
10-28-07, 06:45 PM
well looks like i know what im getting for christmas. ill worry bout upgrading my mobo and ram and cpu later.
Alacritan
10-28-07, 06:47 PM
The GT is on a 65nm manufacturing process, making it run cooler/use less power.
There's only about a 10W difference between the GT and GTS at load. They just decided to go with a smaller cooler on the GT and as a result it actually runs hotter than the GTS by about 6 degrees at stock (GTS - 60C, GT - 66C). Of course, this may change as the GTS is getting a refresh to bump it above the GT in performance.
beavismorpheus
10-28-07, 06:47 PM
Do they normally start selling new cards at midnight on the release day of new cards?
Alacritan
10-28-07, 06:48 PM
I'm gonna wait for the HD3800/3850/3870 to launch on the 15th before throwing down $200+ on anything. The RV670 is supposed to outperform the 8800GT at the same price (and ATi may be ensuring that with the two weeks between launches).
MadMan007
10-28-07, 06:52 PM
Is RV670 an updated R600, using the same general architecture but new process and some updates? If so it could share the R600s achille's heel of AA :( Haven't seen much leaked info on it though.
MadMan007
10-28-07, 06:55 PM
I'm pooped from data hunting for the next few months :rolleyes:
NO YOU"RE NOT! *cracks whip* Find me info on the new GTS bwoy ! :)
mysterfix
10-28-07, 07:06 PM
Well from what I've been reading on the RV670 the AA issue is supposed to be all better now. They shrunk the core and reworked some things apperantly.
ancalime
10-28-07, 07:20 PM
Well from what I've been reading on the RV670 the AA issue is supposed to be all better now. They shrunk the core and reworked some things apperantly.
Hopefully, or else we won't see those Nvidia price drops we all want.
MadMan007
10-28-07, 07:22 PM
Got a link to RV670 rumors and whatnot? The main problem with R600 and AA was doing AA in the shaders rather than the ROPs.
UnrealAlex
10-28-07, 07:29 PM
How do these people have the new processors already ?
A lot of people from review sites get hardware before it comes out (from the manufacturer). But in the case of vr-zone I think some retailers slipped (in Singapore) and sold the cards early.
lordkosc
10-28-07, 07:44 PM
Nvidia just used shock and awe on us ! :drool::eek:
ChristmasGT
10-28-07, 07:50 PM
Ah crap SLi problems, Anyone have a guess on how long it'll take to get fixed? I'll take 2 please!
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 07:52 PM
I think I might be getting one here REAL soon. I cant believe how it schooled my GTS320!!!
nd4spdbh2
10-28-07, 07:58 PM
The RV670 is supposed to outperform the 8800GT at the same price (and ATi may be ensuring that with the two weeks between launches).
gosh i remember people saying same exact thing bout a yr ago bout some other card :beer:
ima wait till all the dust clears to see whats on the horizon... my 8800gts 640 is doing me just fine as well as my e6600... but damn that 8800gt is a sexy card... id love to get rid of the extra heat generated by my gts.
i just find it intresting that they are naming it the GT... even though its better than a GTS... marketing at its best... it will be great cus then the price of the gts is gonna have to come down...!
sli probs?
mysterfix
10-28-07, 08:02 PM
Got a link to RV670 rumors and whatnot? The main problem with R600 and AA was doing AA in the shaders rather than the ROPs.
No but there is a few "rumored" bench scores of 3850 over at XS.:beer:
gosh i remember people saying same exact thing bout a yr ago bout some other card :beer:
ima wait till all the dust clears to see whats on the horizon... my 8800gts 640 is doing me just fine as well as my e6600... but damn that 8800gt is a sexy card... id love to get rid of the extra heat generated by my gts.
i just find it intresting that they are naming it the GT... even though its better than a GTS... marketing at its best... it will be great cus then the price of the gts is gonna have to come down...!
sli probs?
the new 65nm GTS should beat out the old GTS.
Thus restoring the GT>GTS>GTX order
Surfrider77
10-28-07, 08:17 PM
... id love to get rid of the extra heat generated by my gts.
i just find it intresting that they are naming it the GT... even though its better than a GTS... marketing at its best... it will be great cus then the price of the gts is gonna have to come down...!
sli probs?
The new GT is actually running hotter, which is probably due to the single slot smaller cooler. Noise is also higher, if that bothers you.
One of the review sites said it wouldnt give an SLI option in nVidia Control Panel. I imagine this will be quickly resolved with a driver update.
Surfrider77
10-28-07, 08:20 PM
the new 65nm GTS should beat out the old GTS.
Thus restoring the GT>GTS>GTX order
The 512m GT is right on the heels of the GTX in a lot of benchmarks. One has to wonder if the new GTS will surpass the GTX performance. We should see some reviews in the next few weeks.
The 512m GT is right on the heels of the GTX in a lot of benchmarks. One has to wonder if the new GTS will surpass the GTX performance. We should see some reviews in the next few weeks.
They have to beef up the GTX of course :)
Nebulous
10-28-07, 08:33 PM
Ahh, those look soooooooo sweeeeet! :drool: But hey, i'm happy i got me a GTS 640mb ;) It'll do me just fine.
nd4spdbh2
10-28-07, 09:13 PM
maybe we will be seeing her shortly with in the next coupla months a refresh of the entire lineup... 8850GTX 512bit 1gb memory 65nm
Alacritan
10-28-07, 09:14 PM
gosh i remember people saying same exact thing bout a yr ago bout some other card :beer:
I don't remember anyone saying that the 2900XT was going to beat the 8800 cards, at least, no one who wasn't making baseless speculation. It has been known for quite some time that while the team at ATi working on the R600 was having problems, the R670/680 team was not and things were running smoothly for them. That's how they're able to release this generation on time. You don't think they managed to create a whole new generation of cards in a mere six months do you?
The R600 (2900XT) was only launched May 14th, 2007. It takes 18-24+ months to fully develop and manufacture a GPU architecture. They've already finalized the specs for the R700, R800 and R900 architectures and they've begun preliminary development on the R1000 architecture already, which won't see the light of day until 2009 at the earliest.
MadMan007
10-28-07, 09:15 PM
The big thing the 8800GT has going for it is the stock clocks and oc's presumably due to the new process. With 96 SPs (and other things being equal) you'd need a 25% clockspeed advantage for 96 SP to equal 128SP. With 112 you only need a 12.5% advantage. This is how they can hang with the GTS and GTX kind of despite the fewer SPs and mem bandwidth. I wonder what it can do with some serious cooling :drool: The only crazy thing is how Crysis with AA/AF sucks on everything but the GTX.
Makes me even more anxious for the new GTS benches on the same process but then again it won't even have a SP advantage. Kind of wierd :confused:
joesaiditstrue
10-28-07, 09:16 PM
The 512m GT is right on the heels of the GTX in a lot of benchmarks. One has to wonder if the new GTS will surpass the GTX performance. We should see some reviews in the next few weeks.
new GTS cards will beat the current GTX & Ultra cards, I'd bet 100 dollars on it :)
Alacritan
10-28-07, 09:16 PM
The 512m GT is right on the heels of the GTX in a lot of benchmarks. One has to wonder if the new GTS will surpass the GTX performance. We should see some reviews in the next few weeks.
new GTS cards will beat the current GTX & Ultra cards, I'd bet 100 dollars on it :)
Not at higher resolutions and not when AA/AF is enabled. The GT and GTS don't have the bandwidth to keep up. It's only got a 256-bit bus compared to the 384-bit bus on the GTX and Ultra.
Alacritan
10-28-07, 09:17 PM
Is RV670 an updated R600, using the same general architecture but new process and some updates? If so it could share the R600s achille's heel of AA :( Haven't seen much leaked info on it though.
There's a reason why there isn't much info out there. ATi is keeping everyone, including the press, in the dark so that Nvidia doesn't get the upperhand on them with advance knowledge of what they're planning to release. Fudzilla.com had an article on this very thing, about how the last time ATi had the upper hand was when the 9xxx series came out and Nvidia screwed up royally with the GeForce 5 series. With every single other generation, especially the X800/700/etc and the X1xxx series, Nvidia knew what ATi was planning ahead of time and clocked their cards high enough to beat them in benchmarks.
The reverse is happening this time around. Nvidia has been like a sieve with specs and performance numbers and ATi now has a chance to adjust the number of shader units and clock speeds and price points to give themselves the upper hand on Nvidia.
They're also willing to price aggressively to gain back marketshare lost on the last generation.
MadMan007
10-28-07, 09:18 PM
post 1 - That's why I can't wait for some more reviews. One place in particular, techreport.com, does a very stressful benchmark by forcing AA+HDR in Oblivion. Sure it's an old game but it still scales. I don't know why no one else does things like that :(
post 2 - It's the ongoing back and forth struggle I guess :) Although I would strongly suspect NV has a good idea what's going on and so does AMD even if we don't. Corporate espionage is real.
In one of the reviews you can see the bandwidth make a large difference in the AA and AF sections of certain games.
GT=256
GTS=320
GTX=386
Of course at my resolution 1600x1200, the GT is my soulmate.
Added a review (http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=1)
You can see the bandwidth come into play in some of the tests here.
MadMan007
10-28-07, 09:40 PM
Yea I run 1680x1050 haha so a GTX is pretty big overkill but it just means I can crank all settings np :) I guess the bandwidth is less of an issue at lower res to get acceptable framerates.
Here's another wacky thought and I need to look at the reviews again. This card is PCIe2.0 which doesn't mean much for bandwidth but does provide more power delivery through the PCIe slot. Now what mobo were the reviews using? An x38 chipset with PCIe2.0 or a P35? And is there any overclocking difference because of the additional power through the slot? Let's hope not.
MadMan007
10-28-07, 10:31 PM
One more total guess about the new GTS. Maybe it will have more ROPs than the GT. That could be another factor to distinguish them more.
White_Pawn
10-28-07, 10:35 PM
when is the new 8800GTS coming out? I want one.
hank123
10-28-07, 10:36 PM
i heard that they where fro sale on zipzoomfly.com or frys for 279 or so. i couldnt find it.
Brolloks
10-28-07, 10:40 PM
i heard that they where fro sale on zipzoomfly.com or frys for 279 or so. i couldnt find it.
Here you go
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007125
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 10:41 PM
I think im gonna hold out also for the new Gts.
The GT still got spanked hard by the OLD GTS640mb in CRySiS. To me thats the only game that matters because its the only one I cant play decent.
NV have screwed their High-end 8800GTX customers.I'd be upset if I bought a GTX not too long ago...lol
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 10:47 PM
Yea for real. They must have a new GTX/Ultra coming out also. That will probably own all.
Brolloks
10-28-07, 10:47 PM
I think im gonna hold out also for the new Gts.
The GT still got spanked hard by the OLD GTS640mb in CRySiS. To me thats the only game that matters because its the only one I cant play decent.
Unless I'm going blind the new GT opened a can of whipass on the old GTS 640 mb:confused:
LINK (http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_GeForce_8800_GT_Review/5369-7.html#Scene_1)
nvidiaOCmaster
10-28-07, 10:52 PM
WOW!
The most impressive card I ever owned was a EVGA 6600GT 128(the Gigabyte card's = not too nice), I hope the 8800GT will live up to how my 6600GT performed.
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 10:53 PM
Yes that was at medium settings with no AA. At lower res where im at 1680x1050 the GTS smoked it.
Its in the Link on this thread, I would copy a link but the sites not responding. ITs the elitebastards link.
Brolloks
10-28-07, 10:54 PM
WOW!
The most impressive card I ever owned was a EVGA 6600GT 128(the Gigabyte card's = not too nice), I hope the 8800GT will live up to how my 6600GT performed.
You can say that again, my PayPal is locked and loaded waiting for the eVGA version to hit the market...:bday:
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 10:55 PM
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=5
There ya go, GTS640 rocks it in Crysis.
Brolloks
10-28-07, 10:58 PM
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=5
There ya go, GTS640 rocks it in Crysis.
Did not see that, sorry:)
Dissapointing that the GT takes such a hit with AA & AF turned on....maybe I'll wait for the new GTS...
UnrealAlex
10-28-07, 10:59 PM
Interesting; these results are semi-disturbing heh.
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 11:00 PM
Yea thats what just changed my mind about the whole card. I really think my 320Mb GTS would still give me better performance in Crysis from its 320Bit memory.
nd4spdbh2
10-28-07, 11:00 PM
NV have screwed their High-end 8800GTX customers.I'd be upset if I bought a GTX not too long ago...lol
Oh god thats starting to sound like the iphone.... it happens... prices change new stuff comes out, if you were dumb nuf to buy a gtx within the past coupla weeks and not heed the rumors... you deserved it.
as for speculating the new ati will spank the new nvidia stuff... like i said before, last year ati was spost to (as stated by all ATI fanboys) come out with a card that was "twice as good as the 8800s..." then amd/ati didnt live up to what they had said and release a lil press confrence bout it... its in the archives of articles that were on the front page... look it up.
AMD has done this in the recent past (cough, the C2D killer phenom... :rolleyes:) it wouldnt surprise me if ppl were speculating the best for the new ati stuff only to have it be meh, lil better/bout the same.
but only time will tell, i ate my words bout the 8800gt i utterd last week (that nvidia wasnt gonna release a better card than their current stuff @ a lesser price) but i have a feeling that ati's new stuff wont be a nvidia killer.
Brolloks
10-28-07, 11:02 PM
Yea thats what just changed my mind about the whole card. I really think my 320Mb GTS would still give me better performance in Crysis from its 320Bit memory.
Damn...:bang headand I just sold me 8800 GTS superclocked less that a week ago hoping that the GT would be better with Crysis:cry:
DumpALump
10-28-07, 11:04 PM
I was thinking that you could potentially still use a VF900cu on one of these as they changed the mounting holes back to the old way and these run with a lot lower heat. The new heatsink does not look all too beefy in the first place, but it is also already shown that the card does run hot at stock.
twEEkerAreUs
10-28-07, 11:05 PM
Damn...:bang headand I just sold me 8800 GTS superclocked less that a week ago hoping that the GT would be better with Crysis:cry:
Buy the eVGA version, then you can use the step up program if the revised GTS slaughters the 8800GT. Don't worry about it man...eVGA rocks.
Brolloks
10-28-07, 11:07 PM
Buy the eVGA version, then you can use the step up program if the revised GTS slaughters the 8800GT. Don't worry about it man...eVGA rocks.
That is what I'll certainly have to do...
UnrealAlex
10-28-07, 11:14 PM
From the benchmarks, the 320mb gts gets obliterated by the 512gt at everything, not sure what you guys are talking about lol.
If it runs hot at stock then that doesn't give as much OC potential :(
Also do we really need two topics on this? Someone should merge =/
MadMan007
10-28-07, 11:24 PM
Something must be odd about the Crysis engine because out of all the games it's the only one where card rankings reverse themselves entirely. NV just released some beta drivers for Crysis I wonder if any of these sites were using them?
looks pretty sweet, but if you want the AA /. AF on you'll need something with some real power.
Tweak486Dx2
10-28-07, 11:25 PM
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=5
There ya go, GTS640 rocks it in Crysis.
One more time if u missed it. Scroll down for the crysis benchmarks. They aint selling me on this card. All other games out right now dont mean squat, most of them are 360 games ported. I see over 100Fps in just about everything with my 8800gts. Now crysis is a glimpse of whats to come, ESPICIALLY FAR CRY 2 is coming out and probably gonna be on the same engine. Im buying what plays Crysis the best.
Its the ONLY game that make me wanna upgrade anything.
VF 900 should fit :)
NO YOU"RE NOT! *cracks whip* Find me info on the new GTS bwoy ! :)
:cry:
From the benchmarks, the 320mb gts gets obliterated by the 512gt at everything, not sure what you guys are talking about lol.
If it runs hot at stock then that doesn't give as much OC potential :(
Also do we really need two topics on this? Someone should merge =/
320MB gets owned. Glad I sold mine.
The 512MB pwns everything in sight EXCEPT :bang head the 640MB in Crysis at high res with 4xAA/16xAF
In other high res 4xAA/16xAF the GT wins though. :beer:
CRYSIS OBLITERATES EVERYTHING! No point to making a comparison to it imo.
Keep in mind the number it's spitting at you...
1600x1200 High on Crysis flyby benchmark...
NO AA or AF:
GT=25
GTS=18
25 is playable from what people are saying.
AA and AF:
GT=5
GTS=14
You're not going to play it on either of those resolutions.
Raising PCIe speeds raises bandwidth right? :sn:
Anyone know by how much?
Caust1c
10-28-07, 11:41 PM
NO YOU"RE NOT! *cracks whip* Find me info on the new GTS bwoy ! :)
That's appropriate considering your avatar =P
Caust1c
10-28-07, 11:48 PM
Be sure to check this link tomorrow on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130303
I determined this by a pattern in the URLs between the pictures and their respective products.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-082-10.jpg%2c14-130-082-02.jpg%2c14-130-082-03.jpg%2c14-130-082-04.jpg
%2c14-130-082-05.jpg%2c14-130-082-09.jpg%2c14-130-082-11.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=0&Description=EVGA+GeForce+8800GTS+320-P2-N811-AR+Video+Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-303-01.jpg%2c14-130-303-02.jpg%2c14-130-303-03.jpg%2c14-130-303-04.jpg
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130303
Be sure to check this link tomorrow on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130303
I determined this by a pattern in the URLs between the pictures and their respective products.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-082-10.jpg%2c14-130-082-02.jpg%2c14-130-082-03.jpg%2c14-130-082-04.jpg
%2c14-130-082-05.jpg%2c14-130-082-09.jpg%2c14-130-082-11.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&Depa=0&Description=EVGA+GeForce+8800GTS+320-P2-N811-AR+Video+Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-303-01.jpg%2c14-130-303-02.jpg%2c14-130-303-03.jpg%2c14-130-303-04.jpg
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130303
These links didn't work out for you correctly.
Newegg Linked 8800GT Pictures! (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?Image=14-130-303-01.jpg%2c14-130-303-02.jpg%2c14-130-303-03.jpg%2c14-130-303-04.jpg%2c14-130-303-05.jpg%2c14-130-303-06.jpg%2c14-130-303-07.jpg%2c14-130-303-08.jpg%2c14-130-303-09.jpg%2c14-130-303-10.jpg)
I got it right this time...
I just linked the URL's, the product is not listed yet.
**COUGH COUGH GAG**
Ahem...
Righto :beer:
I spy some GTS in there, but I know where you are going.
Newegg better update soon.
joesaiditstrue
10-28-07, 11:58 PM
Not at higher resolutions and not when AA/AF is enabled. The GT and GTS don't have the bandwidth to keep up. It's only got a 256-bit bus compared to the 384-bit bus on the GTX and Ultra.
the GT doesn't have the bandwidth to keep up w/ the GTX at higher resolutions/AA & AF? Um... that's been pretty much application-specific as to whether memory bandwidth/fill rate actually affects overall performance for the 8800 GT in current games/benchmarks
Memory Bandwidth
8800 GT: 9.6 GB/s
8800 GTS: 10GB/s
8800 GTX: 13.8 GB/s (43% increase over GT, 38% increase over GTS)
Crysis 2560x1600
8800 GT: 28fps
8800 GTS: 20fps
8800 GTX: 36fps (28.5% increase over GT, 80% increase over GTS)
World in Conflict 2560x1600
8800 GT: 22fps
8800 GTS: 21fps
8800 GTX: 26fps (18% increase over GT, 23.8% over GTS)
--------------------------
AA & AF
Crysis 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
8800 GT: 5.98fps
8800 GTS: 9.8fps
8800 GTX: 23.4fps (291% increase over GT, 138.7% over GTS)
World in Conflict 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
8800 GT: 20fps
8800 GTS: 23fps
8800 GTX: 33fps (65% increase over GT, 43.4% over GTS)
Unreal Tournament 3 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
8800 GT: 39.3
8800 GTS: 34.6
8800 GTX: 39.8 (1.2% increase over GT, 15% over GTS)
the GT doesn't have the bandwidth to keep up w/ the GTX at higher resolutions/AA & AF? Um... that's been pretty much application-specific as to whether memory bandwidth/fill rate actually affects overall performance for the 8800 GT in current games/benchmarks
Memory Bandwidth
8800 GT: 9.6 GB/s
8800 GTS: 10GB/s
8800 GTX: 13.8 GB/s (43% increase over GT, 38% increase over GTS)
Crysis 2560x1600
8800 GT: 28fps
8800 GTS: 20fps
8800 GTX: 36fps (28.5% increase over GT, 80% increase over GTS)
World in Conflict 2560x1600
8800 GT: 22fps
8800 GTS: 21fps
8800 GTX: 26fps (18% increase over GT, 23.8% over GTS)
--------------------------
AA & AF
Crysis 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
8800 GT: 5.98fps
8800 GTS: 9.8fps
8800 GTX: 23.4fps (291% increase over GT, 138.7% over GTS)
World in Conflict 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
8800 GT: 20fps
8800 GTS: 23fps
8800 GTX: 33fps (65% increase over GT, 43.4% over GTS)
Unreal Tournament 3 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF
8800 GT: 39.3
8800 GTS: 34.6
8800 GTX: 39.8 (1.2% increase over GT, 15% over GTS)
Right, for Crysis everything is heavily more detailed, same goes for WIC. The 320MB vs. 640MB easily shows that there is just much more going on.
Caust1c
10-29-07, 12:07 AM
These links didn't work out for you correctly.
I think that's because I used the highlighter. The first link should work. Tomorrow. Newegg detects that you are looking up a product that is "no longer listed" and redirects you to all the evga 8800 series cards. Makes me think that they leaked the pictures on purpose.
ChristmasGT
10-29-07, 12:15 AM
now heres a real question, how will 8800 GT's do in SLi? you can pick up 2 of them for about the same price as a GTX hopefully they will have a substantial gain
Cisco Kid
10-29-07, 01:01 AM
Personally I think these 512 cards are gonna need better aftermarket cooling anyways. Get ready to add another 30 to your purchase price but I may be wrong.
Colton H
10-29-07, 01:02 AM
Dang no real reason to buy a GTS now if you can get a better card for cheaper. Assuming they don't upgrade the GTS's but they are..right? Sorry I'm a little slow on all this updating stuff.
Thund3rball
10-29-07, 01:05 AM
Personally I think these 512 cards are gonna need better aftermarket cooling anyways. Get ready to add another 30 to your purchase price but I may be wrong.
Unless you already have a 7 series cooler, then you can just move it onto your new 8800GT. Looks like they're going to fit :)
Cisco Kid
10-29-07, 01:06 AM
It will be interesting I think the current GTS 640 cards will do alot better than what most anticipate especially for those at 1650x1080
beavismorpheus
10-29-07, 04:32 AM
the 8800 is dead... long live the 8800
Immortal_Hero
10-29-07, 07:20 AM
Looks good until they turn on the AA then the GTX still shines. I was susprised to the see the GT scoring that high. Why are GTX's still $500+?
Dan0512
10-29-07, 07:22 AM
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=482&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=5
There ya go, GTS640 rocks it in Crysis.
Wow, a brilliant statement based settings that would provide you with a rewarding game experience. :rolleyes:
I'm down for one 8800gt.
dan
WildMonkey
10-29-07, 07:30 AM
So I wake up, and no one has 8800 GT's on stock!
It's like someone killed Christmas
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 07:47 AM
now heres a real question, how will 8800 GT's do in SLi? you can pick up 2 of them for about the same price as a GTX hopefully they will have a substantial gain
They do very well from what I have seen :eek: . I'm grabbing a pair as soon as they hit the 'egg.
So I wake up, and no one has 8800 GT's on stock!
It's like someone killed Christmas
Take a gander... :D :
Newegg independently confirmed with DailyTech that the card will be available online after the 6AM embargo lift.
Source: http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9424
Maverick0984
10-29-07, 08:27 AM
Looks good until they turn on the AA then the GTX still shines. I was susprised to the see the GT scoring that high. Why are GTX's still $500+?
Because of the very reason you quoted :-/ ? It is still the superior card. While I'm unhappy something for $250 is so close to the performance of my GTX. It is part of the process of technology upgrades and I'll get over it. Being that I can still use AA/AF more effectively, I'm also okay with it. I have to think though, once the "new" GTS comes out they will have to upgrade the GTX/Ultra's as well or it will just be a big cluster of 4 cards with relatively similar performances with as much as $400 in price differences :bang head.
So I wake up, and no one has 8800 GT's on stock!
It's like someone killed Christmas
Haha, this made me literally LOL, not the fake kind you just type when you don't even crack a smile IRL. ;)
MadMan007
10-29-07, 08:38 AM
I am going to go out on limb and a hunch and throw up a big warning to those looking at Crysis benchmarks when the test system has a dual core CPU. Wait for results on a quad core! I don't know how much of a difference it makes , for which card, or at which resolution. But I was able to play the demo perfectly playable with a q6600@3GHz and a GTX@Ultra speeds (except memory) 4GB Ram and it was perfectly smooth( DX9 on WinXP x64 too.) We'd need to see it back-to-back but I do believe this game will show off a quad's power a whole lot.
Caust1c
10-29-07, 08:45 AM
Found here for your convenience:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140
And it Kills!
Roofles
10-29-07, 08:53 AM
I'm pretty impressed with these cards in general (as I'm sure everyone else is as well) but I think I'll be looking out for the new revision GTS's when I look to put together a computer around Christmas...
Oh also props for going to a smaller heatsink.
and also HardOCP http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQxMCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
Really like HardOCP way of reviewing cards, shows what the maxmium/playable settings you can get with each card, including Crysis demo
Interestingly aswell the 2900XT is able to handle a resolution above the 8800GTS on Crysis in DX9 too.
MadMan007
10-29-07, 09:02 AM
techreport.com has one as well.
Is it just me or do all these 'big site' reviews seem rushed? The ones from the smaller sites seem more complete with a wider variety of resolutions and settings. Also no quad core results, I really want to see if the Crysis head's statement that a slower quad is better than a faster dual is true.
Looks good. I never liked hard ocp's reviews because I like direct comparisons but the anandtech review is very good.
Did anyone else see this coming?
Lazy OCF moderators :P (I know they are too busy reading about the 8800GT's LOL)
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140
also from the end of the HardOCP review:
UPDATE - 10/29/07-8:29am: A very interesting addendum to this. I just got off the phone with BFG Tech and NVIDIA has been doing some strange things lately. As of this morning, the GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB (unsure on the 320MB) will have its stream processors officially increased to 112, the same as the GT. This should put the GTS back ahead of the GT as per the paper specs. However, the separation in the products is still going to be very small except for those of you wanting to run high resolutions with AA turned on. To do that you are still going to need a $400+ video card..or so. Our new spec GTS is on the way to us now and we will of course be updating you. Given the GT's faster clocks and possibly larger texture unit, we will have to wait and see. Undoubtedly though, the 8800 GT remains a stellar value at the expected price points.
So it doesn't look like you will have to wait long for that new model 8800GTS review
also from the end of the HardOCP review:
So it doesn't look like you will have to wait long for that new model 8800GTS review
A few weeks.
yes but...
Our new spec GTS is on the way to us now
you might see a review before the end of the week
the new gts wont help people who have the old gts. I'm definitely going to upgrade to a gt.
jason4207
10-29-07, 09:49 AM
To those looking to do a step-up...eVGA has the 8800GT 512MB listed now for step-up. It doesn't have a MSRP listed...it says, "CALL *BACKORDERED*.
I've got until the end of October to do my step-up. I bought the 320 on 8/1/07. I keep getting an error when I try to submit the step-up. I'm guessing their servers, and CS are swamped right now! I'll have to try a phone call.
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 09:54 AM
Good info, jason4207 :D.
Maverick0984
10-29-07, 10:01 AM
To those looking to do a step-up...eVGA has the 8800GT 512MB listed now for step-up. It doesn't have a MSRP listed...it says, "CALL *BACKORDERED*.
I've got until the end of October to do my step-up. I bought the 320 on 8/1/07. I keep getting an error when I try to submit the step-up. I'm guessing their servers, and CS are swamped right now! I'll have to try a phone call.
Heh, my step-up window is identical to yours. I have 2 days left. Although, I have a GTX so a slightly different situation :-/.
jason4207
10-29-07, 10:03 AM
It looks like the step-up may have the new GTS as well! They have it listed as 8800GTS KO 640MB PCI-E (640-P2-N828-AR) - CALL *BACKORDERED*.
Going to eVGA's product spec page and looking up that part number you see that it says, "96+ Stream Processors", and a date of 10/23/07. All the other GTS's have "96 Stream Processors" listed as their spec, and a 5/14 date.
Agallion
10-29-07, 10:18 AM
My choice will depend on the price different between the gt and a new gts, i wouldnt order till about jan anyway to go with the penryn launch =P
jason4207
10-29-07, 10:21 AM
Holy crap! Now eVGA has a whole assortment of GT's and GTS's in KO, SC, and SSC flavors available for step-up.
Brolloks
10-29-07, 10:28 AM
Holy crap! Now eVGA has a whole assortment of GT's and GTS's in KO, SC, and SSC flavors available for step-up.
When are they going to appear at the online storefront though:confused:
jason4207
10-29-07, 10:34 AM
Technically they don't open until 12 (9am PST), so maybe then?
jason4207
10-29-07, 10:47 AM
I just called, and eVGA said that it would be about 3-5hrs before MSRP's were listed on their site. At that time the step-up will be possible.
If I had to guess I'd say that is when they'd be available for purchase on their store-front as well.
Looks like Mwave.com has the EVGA instock now.
$256.90 - EVGA 512-P3-N802-A1 e-GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB DDR3 PCI-E 2.0, DVI+DVI+HDTV, HDCP, RoHS Includes FREE- Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
lordkosc
10-29-07, 10:59 AM
whats the difference between the Superclocked , KO , and the SSC ????
Also found this. Looks like the Mwave.com versions are the 802 ones.
Here are the PDFs on the four eVGA 8800GT 512MB models.
http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N801-AR.pdf
eVGA 8800GT - 600Mhz Clock / 1800Mhz Memory / 1500Mhz Shader
http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N802-AR.pdf
eVGA 8800GT Superclocked - 650Mhz Clock / 1900Mhz Memory / 1625Mhz Shader
http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N805-AR.pdf
eVGA 8800GT KO - 675Mhz Clock / 1950Mhz Memory / 1688Mhz Shader
http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N806-AR.pdf
eVGA 8800GT SSC edition - 700Mhz Clock / 2000Mhz Memory / 1750Mhz Shader
Brolloks
10-29-07, 11:01 AM
Looks like Mwave.com has the EVGA instock now.
$256.90 - EVGA 512-P3-N802-A1 e-GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB DDR3 PCI-E 2.0, DVI+DVI+HDTV, HDCP, RoHS Includes FREE- Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
Damn...:bang head...decisions, decisions, log tells me I should wait a couple of weeks so the prices level out, but my urge to lay my hands on one of these burns me...
*must resist...*
lordkosc
10-29-07, 11:02 AM
does SSC edition , mean super super clocked? :eek:
Ya i just want a card for the release of Crysis and UT3. I know the demos are out and I havent played them yet. So im thinking ill wait till the end of this week then im pulling the trigger.
I've never bought an eVGA card and i wonder if those different versions are worth looking at. Looks like the one at MWave is the superclocked on according to the Manf. Part number listed.
does SSC edition , mean super super clocked? :eek:
Ya look at my above post.
regular = 600mhz
ssc = 700mhz
lordkosc
10-29-07, 11:06 AM
superclocked seems to be the mainstream version , as most sites used it for reviews
i am wondering if we can just OC the superclocked version to SSC speeds and save the 30-35 extra bucks???
twEEkerAreUs
10-29-07, 11:08 AM
http://evga.com/products/pdf/512-P3-N806-AR.pdf
eVGA 8800GT SSC edition - 700Mhz Clock / 2000Mhz Memory / 1750Mhz Shader
:drool::drool::drool:
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 11:08 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252
XFX stock-clock in stock for $260 + $6.33 shipping. Bit on the high side, so I went for this:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/26778/512-P3-N802-A1/eVGA/
eVGA 650core/1900ram for $239.33 + $7ish shipping, ordered two of them :D, includes Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and nVidia mouse pad (you can also get a free Hitman Blood Money for a little more shipping, ~$2 each).
Brolloks
10-29-07, 11:10 AM
Looks like Mwave.com has the EVGA instock now.
$256.90 - EVGA 512-P3-N802-A1 e-GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB DDR3 PCI-E 2.0, DVI+DVI+HDTV, HDCP, RoHS Includes FREE- Enemy Territory: Quake Wars
I cannot find it, link please:)
twEEkerAreUs
10-29-07, 11:11 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252
XFX stock-clock in stock for $260 + $6.33 shipping. Bit on the high side, so I went for this:
http://www.ncixus.com/products/26778/512-P3-N802-A1/eVGA/
eVGA 650core/1900ram for $239.33 + $7ish shipping, ordered two of them :D, includes Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and nVidia mouse pad (you can also get a free Hitman Blood Money for a little more shipping, ~$2 each).
Dang that ncixus is a good deal, must wait until more prices pop up .........Must resistttttttttttttttt :drool::drool:
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 11:14 AM
I cannot find it, link please:)
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA72264
I cannot find it, link please:)
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearch.hmx?scriteria=evga+8800GT+512&ALL=y&TP=3
Also I checked some of the other online stores like Tigerdirect and they arent listed there yet.
I might wait fo tigerdirect to list their prices cause you can get another 3.7% off of items on their site by going through www.jellyfish.com
Brolloks
10-29-07, 11:20 AM
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http://www.ncixus.com/products/26778/512-P3-N802-A1/eVGA/
eVGA 650core/1900ram for $239.33 + $7ish shipping, ordered two of them :D, includes Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, and nVidia mouse pad (you can also get a free Hitman Blood Money for a little more shipping, ~$2 each).
that is a damn good price !!!!
Do they accept PayPal?
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 11:22 AM
that is a damn good price !!!!
Do they accept PayPal?
Yes, NCIX accepts PayPal.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/DeepSearch.hmx?scriteria=evga+8800GT+512&ALL=y&TP=3
Also I checked some of the other online stores like Tigerdirect and they arent listed there yet.
I might wait fo tigerdirect to list their prices cause you can get another 3.7% off of items on their site by going through www.jellyfish.com
There's one, but it's highly priced and stock clocked: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3427124&sku=P450-8812
Brolloks
10-29-07, 11:24 AM
Yes, NCIX accepts PayPal.
There's one, but it's highly priced and stock clocked: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3427124&sku=P450-8812
Sweet...that one is mine:bday:
*Edit* Their shipping is $13.25...kinda High
lordkosc
10-29-07, 11:24 AM
NCIX looks like a great deal , but I must wait for the EGG!!! My luck , NCIX will be out of stock by the time the EGG gets theirs up on the site.
Ya looks like NCIX is the better deal right now. $246 vs $257 shipped.
I think im gonna wait for the SSC model $30 spent here is probably worth it since I will have to live with this card for a couple years. I wont be spending $700 on a video card. :)
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 11:27 AM
NCIX looks like a great deal , but I must wait for the EGG!!! My luck , NCIX will be out of stock by the time the EGG gets theirs up on the site.
Considering the egg's high price on the XFX stock-clock ($260) compared to NCIXUS's price on an overclocked EVGA ($239.33), the egg's likely to have a VERY high price on the EVGA's they have.
lordkosc
10-29-07, 11:29 AM
don't say that! where does this NCIX place ship from ? the EGG comes from NJ :)
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 11:31 AM
don't say that! where does this NCIX place ship from ? the EGG comes from NJ :)
I think PA.
FYI just talked to Mwave regarding the SSC version and they havent received any of those yet. They have been getting a bunch of calls on it already :)
lordkosc
10-29-07, 11:41 AM
FYI just talked to Mwave regarding the SSC version and they havent received any of those yet. They have been getting a bunch of calls on it already :)
with the overclocks on the SSC, it would seem to be as fast as a 8800GTX at resolutions 1600x1200 and lower :drool:
*** there is no actual proof of this, just my speculation
jason4207
10-29-07, 11:52 AM
eVGA has updated their step-up page. It looks like you can step-up to the regular GT 512MB for 259.99. The same price as the 8600GTS SC! The KO, SC, and SSC versions of the GT disappeared.
The new GTS 640 (112SP) is on there. It looks like you can step-up to the KO version for 389.99. No pricing yet on the regular GTS 640 (112SP). The old 640 (96SP) is still listed at 399.99.
Looks like the SSC model is now on EVGA's website at $290 and in stock.
jason4207
10-29-07, 12:10 PM
If they'll just put the SSC GT on the step-up program I'll pounce on it. $290 is what I paid for my 320MB SC, so this would be an even swap! Just pay for S/H.
Edit: I forgot to mention that the eVGA rep I talked to also said that they would accept step-up requests even if they were a few days past the 90day deadline.
is the stepup program only available if you buy it through them? or do you just provide a receipt of where you bought your card from?
Tyranos
10-29-07, 12:22 PM
You just need a receipt and registered video card.
johnny*
10-29-07, 12:23 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but are the SC and SSC just factory overclocked versions of the vanilla 8800GT? If that's the case, couldn't you relatively easily achieve the same results with a non-factory OC'd card?
Tyranos
10-29-07, 12:35 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but are the SC and SSC just factory overclocked versions of the vanilla 8800GT? If that's the case, couldn't you relatively easily achieve the same results with a non-factory OC'd card?
That's right, most of the time you can. They're really for people who don't want to bother overclocking their video card, or people that want a card that is already overclocked that they can still RMA.
jason4207
10-29-07, 12:51 PM
My SC 320MB doesn't clock any higher than a vanilla 320...maybe even worse. I'd like to get the SSC version of the GT since it is the exact amount I have credit for under the step-up program, and the SSC version should have a better re-sale value later down the road.
eVGA may not offer the SSC version for step-up, though, so vanilla may be what I get anyway.
Edit: @johnny* - THC...I like your sig.
DumpALump
10-29-07, 01:05 PM
Looks like NCIX jacked up their prices to $260 since they see everyone buying one. Just go with the egg instead.
lordkosc
10-29-07, 01:07 PM
NCIX with shipping was 254 anyway, egg ftw!
UnrealAlex
10-29-07, 01:08 PM
*salivate*
Step up is going to take forever :( Like 1-2 weeks :(
johnny*
10-29-07, 01:17 PM
Edit: @johnny* - THC...I like your sig.
Sshhhhhh, it's a secret :sn:
Tyranos
10-29-07, 01:19 PM
I'm waiting for a reduced core size Ultra before I "step to the side".
DumpALump
10-29-07, 02:11 PM
Get the 8800GT from Frys
229.99 + tax + shipping
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434329
239.99 + tax + shipping
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434319
Cheaper than the other online sites. Even with tax and shipping.
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 02:13 PM
Get the 8800GT from Frys
229.99 + tax + shipping
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434329
239.99 + tax + shipping
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434319
Cheaper than the other online sites. Even with tax and shipping.
Not in-stock though, but great prices!
Alien1099
10-29-07, 03:03 PM
I ordered my EVGA 8800GT superclocked model from www.mwave.com for like $264 shipped with 2 day shipping.
ancalime
10-29-07, 04:16 PM
Get the 8800GT from Frys
229.99 + tax + shipping
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434329
239.99 + tax + shipping
http://shop3.outpost.com/product/5434319
Cheaper than the other online sites. Even with tax and shipping.
Those are good prices. If the 256MB version isn't significantly cheaper (sub $200) than I will probably get the 512MB version.
They are hitting newegg now. not too good of prices though
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130303&Tpk=evga%2b8800gt
superclocked for 285 shipped.
homer77
10-29-07, 04:54 PM
Just a heads up on frys 8800GT. In store price is different from online.
I just bought a EVGA 8800GT from Frys B&M for $269.99, which is $40 more than the online price.
I also placed an order online and mite just return the B&M one.
I grabbed a eVGA SC off NcixUS this morning for $233 + 27 shipping (lol California) and $5 insurance
Hitman should come with it and I should be able to get Quake Wars off eVGA's site.
When the new 8800GTS/O Rev 2 comes out, and I want to step up, it's at the price I bought it before shipping and stuff right? :(
Already processed, should be shipped today or tomorrow by 2-3 day air.
Thund3rball
10-29-07, 05:56 PM
For any Canucks out there I bought the eVGA SC 8800GT for $269 w/Free Quake Wars and $8.80 (ha ha) express shipping from NCIX. Heck of a price for the performance! Wahoo!!!
Can this be renamed to "Official 8800GT Thread"? There's way too many topics about it...
Brolloks
10-29-07, 08:42 PM
I grabbed a eVGA SC off NcixUS this morning for $233 + 27 shipping (lol California) and $5 insurance
Hitman should come with it and I should be able to get Quake Wars off eVGA's site.
When the new 8800GTS/O Rev 2 comes out, and I want to step up, it's at the price I bought it before shipping and stuff right? :(
Already processed, should be shipped today or tomorrow by 2-3 day air.
Got the same deal:beer: I see their price has gone up with $50 to $289, glad I got in early...
How are you gonna get Quake Wars off eVGA's site?
rainless
10-29-07, 08:47 PM
Got the same deal:beer: I see their price has gone up with $50 to $289, glad I got in early...
How are you gonna get Quake Wars off eVGA's site?
There's a link for it.
ancalime
10-29-07, 08:50 PM
Here's the link for Quake Wars. You have to buy an 8600 or 8800 series card from EVGA to qualify.
http://evga.com/etqw/
Brolloks
10-29-07, 08:51 PM
There's a link for it.
It does not list the 8800 GT as one of the cards that qualify though, maybe they just need to update the list
LINK (http://evga.com/etqw/)
ancalime
10-29-07, 08:53 PM
It does not list the 8800 GT as one of the cards that qualify though, maybe they just need to update the list
LINK (http://evga.com/etqw/)
Wow you're right, totally missed that. It would only make sense that the GT model is included though since it is found under EVGA's 8800 product line now.
rlemieux
10-29-07, 08:56 PM
Tried ordering the 700Mhz version from Mwave, not in stock. Anyone know of any 512-P3-N806-A1's in stock? I'd even go for the 805 right now.
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 09:03 PM
It does not list the 8800 GT as one of the cards that qualify though, maybe they just need to update the list
LINK (http://evga.com/etqw/)
I don't know about the SuperClocked, but I'd assume since the normal one comes with it bundled in-box, the others would as well:
http://www.evga.com/forums/m.asp?m=143259
Brolloks
10-29-07, 09:15 PM
Have to share they joy ...just got confirmation that my 8800 GT SC has been shipped from NCIXUS:bday: Christmas has come earlier this year...:santa:
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 09:25 PM
Have to share they joy ...just got confirmation that my 8800 GT SC has been shipped from NCIXUS:bday: Christmas has come earlier this year...:santa:
GRATS!
Caust1c
10-29-07, 09:26 PM
with the overclocks on the SSC, it would seem to be as fast as a 8800GTX at resolutions 1600x1200 and lower :drool:
*** there is no actual proof of this, just my speculation
There is! At anandtech.com! they tested both of the cards at stock clocks (the bare minimum that they are sold at, no SC, OC, OC2, KO, SSC, etc) and the GT already beat the GTX in alot of games at lower resolutions. I know that Bioshock was one of them. Check out their review for more.
Caust1c
10-29-07, 09:33 PM
I dont think the GT will include ET:QW. It wouldn't make sense business wise. I believe that they bundled ET:QW with the cards because they knew more powerful cheaper cards were coming out in a month and had to sell all the old 8800 series cards. Espically considering that the GT performs near GTX. I bet that 8800 GTS/GTX/Ultra sales plummet now that the GT is out. Don't get your hopes up. =( But good luck! =)
Brolloks
10-29-07, 09:36 PM
I dont think the GT will include ET:QW. It wouldn't make sense business wise. I believe that they bundled ET:QW with the cards because they knew more powerful cheaper cards were coming out in a month and had to sell all the old 8800 series cards. Espically considering that the GT performs near GTX. I bet that 8800 GTS/GTX/Ultra sales plummet now that the GT is out. Don't get your hopes up. =( But good luck! =)
It does come with ET:QW....LINK (http://www.ncixus.com/products/26778/512-P3-N802-A1/eVGA/)
ancalime
10-29-07, 09:36 PM
Have to share they joy ...just got confirmation that my 8800 GT SC has been shipped from NCIXUS:bday: Christmas has come earlier this year...:santa:
Be sure to post up those benchies when you get it! :beer:
Brolloks
10-29-07, 09:40 PM
Be sure to post up those benchies when you get it! :beer:
Will do, it gets here on Thu, so guess what I'll be doing on Thu night...Crysis at max :drool:
ancalime
10-29-07, 09:44 PM
Will do, it gets here on Thu, so guess what I'll be doing on Thu night...Crysis at max :drool:
Haha have fun, though I heard even the GTX comes to its knees with Crysis at max with high reses.
OT: I noticed in your sig that you have a 680i mobo coming "soon". Does that mean you will be selling your IP35-E? :D
Brolloks
10-29-07, 09:49 PM
OT: I noticed in your sig that you have a 680i mobo coming "soon". Does that mean you will be selling your IP35-E? :D
No, I love this IP35-E, it is the best value for money IMO...I'm gonna try out the 680i and see how it handles my E6850, if it's crap i'll return it and maybe get another IP35-E to run my E6750 or E2180 on...
I also have two 7900 GTO's that I want to play around with SLI...
Back to topic...sorry guys:)
ancalime
10-29-07, 09:54 PM
No, I love this IP35-E, it is the best value for money IMO...I'm gonna try out the 680i and see how it handles my E6850, if it's crap i'll return it and maybe get another IP35-E to run my E6750 or E2180 on...
I also have two 7900 GTO's that I want to play around with SLI...
Back to topic...sorry guys:)
Ahh..understandable.
What are you doing buying so many video cards and motherboards and CPUs.... :beer:
Brolloks
10-29-07, 09:58 PM
What are you doing buying so many video cards and motherboards and CPUs.... :beer:
Call it crazy, fanatic, have to try everything....as long as you tell my wife I need it...:)
Caust1c
10-29-07, 10:18 PM
It does come with ET:QW....LINK (http://www.ncixus.com/products/26778/512-P3-N802-A1/eVGA/)
Didnt see that, sorry. =( Still doesn't make sense to me marketwise. :confused:
Brolloks
10-29-07, 10:24 PM
Didnt see that, sorry. =( Still doesn't make sense to me marketwise. :confused:
It's how the whole rebate system works, online vendors get rebates from eVGA who in turn gets it from the Game publisher...so in the end the middle vendors benefit as well as the gaming publisher promoting products...crazy world of marketing:)
Will do, it gets here on Thu, so guess what I'll be doing on Thu night...Crysis at max :drool:
What?
I ordered the overnight shipping :attn:
It said by 10:20 am but I'll be in school LOL :bday:
Tuesday or Wednesday for me
Radeon 7200 --> 8800GT
Best upgrade ever? :eek:
I'm still not sure if GT gets quake wars :/
neonlazer
10-29-07, 11:13 PM
I'm still not sure if GT gets quake wars :/
If only i could get a $1 for every person who has asked that tonight..i could almost afford a 8800gt for free!..but answer is yes it seems to be you can get it...otherwise it wouldnt be listed on NCIX as a bundle :bday:
If only i could get a $1 for every person who has asked that tonight..i could almost afford a 8800gt for free!..but answer is yes it seems to be you can get it...otherwise it wouldnt be listed on NCIX as a bundle :bday:
That's my point, it's a bundle and not yet listed under eVGA. I will go into the forums and see...
GoldenTiger
10-29-07, 11:24 PM
That's my point, it's a bundle and not yet listed under eVGA. I will go into the forums and see...
I already posted that eVGA told me on their forums it is bundled inside the card's box for all four models, no matter the place of purchase. No need to go see :beer:.
Because the 8800GT is above the 8600GTS it will qualify for the promotion if you do not get a game in the box, which is what should be happening right now. They are not mailing them to 8800GT customers.
Both of you are quick as a greased 8800GT
Has nobody considered waiting for Black Friday to see if there is a deal on these GT's?
DumpALump
10-30-07, 12:01 AM
There probably will be, but I'm not standing in line for 20 hours to save $20-$30.
There probably will be, but I'm not standing in line for 20 hours to save $20-$30.
How long would you wait in line to save $50?
UnrealAlex
10-30-07, 12:10 AM
Has nobody considered waiting for Black Friday to see if there is a deal on these GT's?
I doubt it...I've never seen a black friday video card deal that did not involve the crappiest video card on the market.
Hey guys, I read that they are releasing a 256MB Version. I think this would be a better choice for someone who has some financial difficulty paying $230 for the 512MB version.
The 256MB will only affect when playing at higher resolutions correct? My monitor only supports 1440x900 and I don't plan on upgrading that anytime soon. So the 256MB would be fine for me correct? Hopefully it will be ~$200 and then I will buy it!
I'm soooo restraining myself from buying the 512MB...I really can't afford it....but it's so tempting...only a few clicks away! I deliberately left my wallet in my car so I would have no instant jump for the Credit Card lol.
Tyranos
10-30-07, 01:21 AM
That 256mb is pushing it.. I run 1440x900 and my old 7800 256mb was constantly raped by things like Oblivion (VRAM monitor).
That 256mb is pushing it.. I run 1440x900 and my old 7800 256mb was constantly raped by things like Oblivion (VRAM monitor).
Yeh I have decided to spend a little more now and get the 512MB so I am more futureproof...I figure it will save money in the long run and with games such as Crysis out, 512MB will really help.
I'll wait til all the 8800GT's come out with reviews before I pounce on one and be greedy lol
lordkosc
10-30-07, 08:02 AM
What?
Radeon 7200 --> 8800GT
Best upgrade ever? :eek:
An upgrade of that magnitude might cause your eyes to bleed, be warned! :drool:
SuperDave1685
10-30-07, 09:36 AM
Any word on when the revised 8800GTS is coming out? I'm hoping its just a simple BIOS flash for me to unlock the 16 pipes, but I highly doubt it :( They've probably been cut at the factory :(
jason4207
10-30-07, 09:52 AM
Any word on when the revised 8800GTS is coming out? I'm hoping its just a simple BIOS flash for me to unlock the 16 pipes, but I highly doubt it :( They've probably been cut at the factory :(
They may already be out!
Check this link (http://www.evga.com/articles/379.asp).
It shows 96+SP instead of just 96, and it is priced lower than the current crop of 640's. It just came out yesterday as well.
Just received my EVGA 8800GT SuperClocked Edition. 169.02 NVIDIA drivers. 3DMark05:
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7246/3dmark05firstca0.jpg
Melastine
10-30-07, 12:36 PM
whats not right?
neonlazer
10-30-07, 12:37 PM
18k 3dmark with a single 8800gt?
jason4207
10-30-07, 12:45 PM
That's 05, not 06.
Show us 06 scores if you don't mind.
Give us some OC results as well...please!
SuperDave1685
10-30-07, 12:48 PM
Very nice.... man... I sure hope I can just simply flash the BIOS of my current GTS, but I doubt it. I've heard the new 8800GTS is going to based on the G92 core :(
jason4207
10-30-07, 12:59 PM
I think it's still a G80, but time will tell.
Drinkyoghurt
10-30-07, 01:20 PM
Just received my EVGA 8800GT SuperClocked Edition. 169.02 NVIDIA drivers. 3DMark05:
big picture
hmm oc it and see what it gets you, see my 2005 score, see if you can get over it with the gt :)
edit: thats my old score, my new score is something in 19xxx gotta look in ORB..
edit i was wrong, i had 18500 so nevermind(clocks were 660/999 i believe)
Alacritan
10-30-07, 01:25 PM
They may already be out!
Check this link (http://www.evga.com/articles/379.asp).
It shows 96+SP instead of just 96, and it is priced lower than the current crop of 640's. It just came out yesterday as well.
It's priced lower because eVGA has to clear out their old stock before the new GTS gets released. And if it actually had more than 96 shader units enabled, I think they'd indicate exactly how many. I believe it's just an overclocked version of the existing GTS with a new model number.
Very nice.... man... I sure hope I can just simply flash the BIOS of my current GTS, but I doubt it. I've heard the new 8800GTS is going to based on the G92 core :(
Even if the new GTS were still based on G80 (it's not), you wouldn't be able to flash it to improve performance because the SPs were laser cut to prevent people from enabling them and getting GTX/Ultra performance for free.
jason4207
10-30-07, 01:32 PM
It's priced lower because eVGA has to clear out their old stock before the new GTS gets released. And if it actually had more than 96 shader units enabled, I think they'd indicate exactly how many. I believe it's just an overclocked version of the existing GTS with a new model number.
Check out the forum on NCIX (http://forum.ncixus.com/forums/index.php?mode=showthread&msg_id=1467609&threadid=1467609&forum=101&product_id=26825&msgcount=35&overclockid=0#msg1467609). Make sure to read through the 2nd page. It can't be held to be the ultimate truth, but it does seem to indicate the new GTS is already here, and it is G80 based w/ unlocked SP's. NCIX has also update their site; it no longer shows G92 in the title.
If it was just an OC'd version of the same GTS then why do they have a "new" version of the vanilla?
Alacritan
10-30-07, 01:54 PM
Hold on a second, it turns out the confusion is all Nvidia's doing. They are producing new GTS cards with 112 shader units enabled, but their manufacturing partners are not allowed to market them indicating that they have 112 shaders. They can only be marketed as special editions or OC versions, thus the eVGA GTS SSC crap on NCIX.
See here:
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5315911&postcount=31
cronozer0
10-30-07, 02:45 PM
The eVGA 8800GT SCC is now listed on newegg for $309.99...so can't wait for it to get in stock. Has anyone found out when?
UnrealAlex
10-30-07, 02:53 PM
I wonder how hot the SSC gets.
Elluzion
10-30-07, 03:24 PM
is the 8800gt the only card that Nvidia is releasing this round? or is their gnna be a new card??
neonlazer
10-30-07, 03:28 PM
is the 8800gt the only card that Nvidia is releasing this round? or is their gnna be a new card??
8800GT is a new card and new revision of 8800gts...
Elluzion
10-30-07, 03:54 PM
8800GT is a new card and new revision of 8800gts...
which one clocks higher, the new revision of the 8800gts or the new 8800gt???? prices?
Just replaced the stock fan with a HR-03. As you can see, there are two mounting options. One is the size of the 6-hole bracket, the other one (bigger) is the standard 4-hole mount. I used the smaller one. 8800GTS/GTX coolers will not work though, too big.
Temps:
37C Idle / 47C Load
(I think I put a little too much paste though...)
And now with the overclocking :)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/746/8800gt001sh7.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8903/8800gt002bv4.jpg
Awesome guys. I jut got my 8800GT, 169.04 driver's aren't showing in Riva.
12,128 stockSC settings on 3D06 O_O
ancalime
10-30-07, 11:07 PM
Wow nice score Hazaro! Now OC it and see what it can really do!
jason4207
10-31-07, 09:12 AM
Just replaced the stock fan with a HR-03. As you can see, there are two mounting options. One is the size of the 6-hole bracket, the other one (bigger) is the standard 4-hole mount. I used the smaller one. 8800GTS/GTX coolers will not work though, too big.
Temps:
37C Idle / 47C Load
(I think I put a little too much paste though...)
And now with the overclocking :)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/746/8800gt001sh7.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8903/8800gt002bv4.jpg
You might want to put some sinks on the vRegs. I bet they get pretty hot.
You might want to put some sinks on the vRegs. I bet they get pretty hot.
Can you point them out in a picture?
They seem rather small to me.
Also, would active cooling be enough to cool them if I didn't have a HS on them?
http://aycu05.webshots.com/image/32324/2003606873429067874_rs.jpg
jason4207
10-31-07, 10:13 AM
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/imagehosting/24047255457384ca.jpg
You can see where the white pads on the HS correspond w/ the RAM chips, but you can also see additional white pads that correspond to other components on the board. It's probably a good idea to sink those additional components as well. I'm pretty sure at least some of those components are Vregs, but whatever they are I'm sure they get hot and need cooling.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/imagehosting/24047255457384ca.jpg
You can see where the white pads on the HS correspond w/ the RAM chips, but you can also see additional white pads that correspond to other components on the board. It's probably a good idea to sink those additional components as well. I'm pretty sure at least some of those components are Vregs, but whatever they are I'm sure they get hot and need cooling.
Ok that's what I thought.
I shall place my strip where the pads were. :)
70CFM blowing on the car should help too.
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