Nvidia Launching New Hardware to Coincide with Crysis Release

[redrumy3]

dont know if posted if so you can delete this or i will delete it :)

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/nvidia_launching_new_hardware_to_coincide_with_cry sis_release


NVIDIA'S NEXT SHOT IN THE GPU WAR

During his speech, Nvidia’s senior vice president Dan Vivoli let slip that Nvidia intended to “launch new hardware to coincide with Crysis’ launch.” Vivoli didn’t elaborate, but the rumor mill has been predicting that Nvidia would ship a new top-end GPU right before the holiday shopping season, just as they did with the GeForce 8800 last year.

Nvidia has been working closely with Crytek throughout the life of this project, according to Vivoli, who told the press that Crysis is “the most advanced game ever developed.” Comparing Crysis to Dinosaur Island, the tech demo that Crytek eventually turned into Far Cry, Vivoli claimed that the new game performs “3,000 operations per pixel, compared to 30 operations per pixel in Dinosaur Island.” He said Crytek had created “85,000 shaders for the game, about the same shader complexity as today’s animated films.”

[Hardin]

Very interesting, the current cards just aren't enough for dx 10. BTW your avatar is awesome.

[nd4spdbh2]

Very interesting, the current cards just aren't enough for dx 10. BTW your avatar is awesome.

? my 8800gts 640 pumps out the fps like a mad man... but an even better gfx card would be cool, maybe they can get the same performance jump as they did from the 79XX series to the 8800's!

[aja]

BTW your avatar is awesome.

hehe it's scarey :eek:

I agree, DX10 needs more displacement

[Hardin]

? my 8800gts 640 pumps out the fps like a mad man... but an even better gfx card would be cool, maybe they can get the same performance jump as they did from the 79XX series to the 8800's!

What game are you playing? All the dx 10 benchmarks that I have seen have had >60 fps.

[reneki]

Is this not just the 8800gt? nothing big really.

[Hardin]

That's what I thought at first but the line "Vivoli didn’t elaborate, but the rumor mill has been predicting that Nvidia would ship a new top-end GPU right before the holiday shopping season, just as they did with the GeForce 8800 last year." leads me to believe that they might have something more planned because an 8800 GT certainly wont be top end.

[Immortal_Hero]

They better do it in the next 70 days while my step up is still good!!!!!!!! Or I will be :mad:.

[aja]

Is this not just the 8800gt? nothing big really.

uh, 8800gt?

okay

[Immortal_Hero]

I would lean towards it being the 8800 GT so mid ranger can have a card to play Crysis w/o breaking the bank.

[aja]

I would lean towards it being the 8800 GT so mid ranger can have a card to play Crysis w/o breaking the bank.

Wow you sound exaclty like Nvidia!

[twophayse]

Instead of new hardware, how about cutting $100 off the price of the current 8800s?

[Kibokun]

:( If this is some sort of 9xxx series...I think me and my bank account will CRY.

<-Early 8800 adopter.

[DumpALump]

Well hopefully they release something "Top-End" so everything else should start to drop in price. I'm really hoping for a whole new generation. In a year or so when DX10 becomes a little bit more mainstream, then I can buy that generation instead of the current 8800 that don't perform that well in DX10 anyways. For $150-200 or so used no doubt :)

[Hardin]

:( If this is some sort of 9xxx series...I think me and my bank account will CRY.

<-Early 8800 adopter.

If it was any other card launch then the 8800s would be outdated by now. We should be thankful they have lasted this long.

[Vipasnipa]

Yeah, I'd really like a new line as well, e.g. 9XXX. All the benchies we have so far for the 8 series show disappointing performance in DX10 at decent resolutions and AA/AF settings.

[satandole666]

Considerably off topic (nVidia hardware aside, I mean) the review of the game wasn't very positive at all...

Now it wouldn’t be fair of me to judge the game before it’s shipped, but I can tell you what I saw and heard during the event. In an all-too-brief one-on-one discussion with Cevat before the hands-on sessions, Crytek’s CEO told me he thought they’d “shown too much of the game too early,” and that they had “built up people’s expectations.

In other words it didn't live up to the hype.

The first thing I attempted to do, of course, was shoot down a few palm trees because there’s been so much discussion of the game’s fully destructible environment. I managed to blow up a few trees, but many more refused to succumb to my efforts.

There goes that destructible environment?

I also didn’t encounter game characters that exhibited the amazing level of detail of those images released very early in the game’s development. As Crytek has begun the final push to get the game out the door, I think they’ve begun to realize just how much visual fidelity they’ll need to sacrifice in order to ship a game that’s playable on mainstream hardware.

It all sounds like bad news to me.

But here's to getting a $300-350 GTX (c'mon price cuts). :beer:

[johnnysd]

I talked to EVGA customer support today about DVI cabling from my 8800GTS 320 to my new LCD. At the end, I offhandedly mentioned that I had purchased the 880GTS in hopes of upgrading my video card with the 90 day program but that I would probably only be able to get an 8800GTX. He said

EVGA: "no, we are coming out with a new line of cards Mid-November for shipping late November. I cannot give out specs but they will be a significant upgrade"

Me: "over the 8800GTX"

EVGA: "Yes"

Just a hearsay rumour but he WOULD know, so I think that there will be at least one card above the 8800 Ultra as part of the refresh. I did not press him anymore than this, but I think he does know the specs, and that they will be better than the top end now.

[reneki]

Interesting conversation you had there, hopefully he wasn't yanking your chain or something. Here's to hoping it's true.

[aja]

I'm thinking maybe a 8900 with 1gig RAM but a similar core...

[Rattle]

512bit 1gb gddr4 144 SP's that would be nice lol

[aja]

512bit 1gb gddr4 144 SP's that would be nice lol

Haha you are allowed to dream, but that is beyond dreaming lol...

[SeasonalEclipse]

Be nice if they released a 8900!

[Rattle]

Haha you are allowed to dream, but that is beyond dreaming lol...

why new cards are already 512bit setup and the gtx cores have way over 128 SP's anyway..... just disabled...

[Neural Net]

why new cards are already 512bit setup and the gtx cores have way over 128 SP's anyway..... just disabled...

They do?! How many SPs do they have? And how did you find this out! I demand answers! :beer:

The GTX has a 384bit memory bus...

[JenBell]

8900GTX 1Gb and 8900GTS. I think another £450-ish for the top of the range. Now here is the thing, is they can deliver the same performance as 2x 8800ultras SLi via one single 9800GTX and then some, I will totally have to upgrade my GPU (or two). More performance is great but please give us a single-slot GPU...pretty please...I really do need my PCI/e slots.

[Rattle]

They do?! How many SPs do they have? And how did you find this out! I demand answers! :beer:

The GTX has a 384bit memory bus...

i know what the gtx has I had 2 of them :)

the new cards coming, the 8800gt, supposedly a 600/1800 with 96,112,sps, but its 512mb and 256bit. so they can go 512bit easily enuff on this core revision I would think that would be logical.....

[Neural Net]

Interesting, btw how many SPs does the 8800GTX have? Why have some been disabled?

[Rattle]

I dont remember exactly but there was quite a bit of speculation that 2 sets of 16 SP's were disabled, kinda like the old school pipeline, this is basically like a 1 pipe (16 sp's each) or 2 being disabled. I dunno if its true though but it makes sense.

Anyway my point was or reasoning anyway was I dont see 144 or 160 stream processors as HUGE surprise if they pop out a NEW high end card here soon.

[Rattle]

speaking of speculation
taken from here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161904

http://news.expreview.com/2007-10-11/1192099246d3907.html
this doesnt work with FF seems kinda wierd

[benbaked]

I tried emailing evga with a question about stepping up my card to the 112sp gts coming out soon, have yet to get a reply. :(

[PhysX]

9800gtx ? or

[Immortal_Hero]

I still say it is too quiet for a GTX/Ultra killer to be coming out in a month. There hasn't been a pic or anything. It is total speculation. At least there is a pic of the 8800 GT.

[johnnysd]

Interesting conversation you had there, hopefully he wasn't yanking your chain or something. Here's to hoping it's true.

I think he was sincere.

[VinnyTAMU]

speaking of speculation
taken from here
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161904

http://news.expreview.com/2007-10-11/1192099246d3907.html
this doesnt work with FF seems kinda wierd

FF = ?

[atm743]

here you guys go


"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

[UglyChild]

here you guys go


"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels


Where did you get this info??

[atm743]

Where did you get this info??

http://www.xbitlabs.com/discussion/3953.html




the new pci express 2.0 card :)

:santa:

[Colton H]

pci-e 2.0 means i have to buy a new mobo?


and im totaly buying the gtx after it comes out :D

[UglyChild]

- built in Audio Chip.

Ill pass.

[Hardin]

here you guys go


"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels

I'm pretty sure this isn't accurate.

[atm743]

pci-e 2.0 means i have to buy a new mobo?


and im totaly buying the gtx after it comes out :D



well yeah

intel is making a new chipset its really good

forgot the name for it starts with a P though

[jason4207]

You don't "need" a PCI-E 2.0 MoBo to run a 2.0 card.

2.0 card will work in 1.1 slot, and 1.1 card will work in 2.0 slot

[Immortal_Hero]

here you guys go


"G92" GeForce 9800 GTX specs.

- 65nm process technology at TSMC.
- Over one billion transistors.
- Second Generation Unified Shader Architecture.
- Double precsion support (FP64).
- GPGPU native.
- Over one TeraFLOPS of shader processing power.
- MADD+ADD configuration for the shader untis (2+1 FLOPS=3 FLOPS per ALU)
- Fully Scalar design.
- 512-bit memory interface.
- 1024MB GDDR4 graphics memory.
- DirectX 10.1 support.
- OpenGL 3.0 Support.
- eDRAM die for "FREE 4xAA".
- built in Audio Chip.
- built in tesselation unit (in the graphics core"
- Improved AA and AF quality levels


That is from 06/03/07. So that is totally wrong.

[atm743]

That is from 06/03/07. So that is totally wrong.

thats not true.

just because the article is from June dosen't mean that information is false

[Immortal_Hero]

Yea it does. The G92 was renamed into the 8800 GT core.

[Hardin]

thats not true.

just because the article is from June dosen't mean that information is false

Yeah your a little behind the times.

[Neuromancer]

well yeah

intel is making a new chipset its really good

forgot the name for it starts with a P though p53 i think?


x38 carries pci-e 2.0 now, and im sure there will be p35 with that capability too im sure.

[aja]

Ill pass.

Audio chip is to send audio through HDMI cable to high def TV silly billy...

[ChinStrap]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/discussion/3953.html




the new pci express 2.0 card :)

:santa:


very very outdated. 6/03/07?? it's 10/12! :P

[atm743]

very very outdated. 6/03/07?? it's 10/12! :P

taken from artical

"Nvidia Plans to Start Transition to PCI Express 2.0 This Fall."

[Hardin]

It's been confirmed that these cards are 2.0 but nothing else you posted is accurate.

[UglyChild]

taken from artical

"Nvidia Plans to Start Transition to PCI Express 2.0 This Fall."

But that can be with ANY card.
Regardless, its old news and G92 is the 8800GT.

Audio chip is to send audio through HDMI cable to high def TV silly billy...

I have no use for HDMI, so you can have it. :beer:

[atm743]

well i still think they will be a card with somewhat the same specs as what that artical said in the next month or so and i could care less what name of the core is.

[aja]

I have no use for HDMI, so you can have it. :beer:

Okay, i'll have your 9800GTX if you get one :beer:

[Scott9027]

FF = ?

Firefox.

I doubt this is anything other than putting a spin on the 8800GT we already know about. It's too soon for something we've heard nothing about.

[aja]

Firefox.

I doubt this is anything other than putting a spin on the 8800GT we already know about. It's too soon for something we've heard nothing about.

Maybe this time they managed to keep their pants on and actually keep the wraps on a soon-to-be-released product?

[ViperJohn]

That's what I thought at first but the line "Vivoli didn’t elaborate, but the rumor mill has been predicting that Nvidia would ship a new top-end GPU right before the holiday shopping season, just as they did with the GeForce 8800 last year." leads me to believe that they might have something more planned because an 8800 GT certainly wont be top end.

It isn't going to happen. NV won't be releasing the next gen top end card until around the end of the
2nd quarter in 2008 as they simply do not need to. The 8800GTX and Ultra are untouchable by any
competitors as it is and will remain so until ATI get the R700 out of the door (2nd Q 08and knowing
ATI probably the 3rd Q in '08). Sales on the GTX and Ultra cards are so strong that NV is having
issue keeping up with demand and is running into GPU shortages all the while making a ton of
money on them.

NV is anything but stupid and releasing a new top end card with the way things are going NV now
certainly would be. It would be akin to shooting the goose while she is still laying golden eggs by
the bucket full lol.

You may possibly see another X2 type card popping up using existing GPU's if ATI pops a "dualie"
out of the oven around the end of the year.

Viper

[aja]

Maybe they will smarten up and give us SLI drivers for intel :)

*for christmas*

[Hazaro]

55nm 8800GT October 29th, and then the ATi card 3 weeks after that. Then Crysis comes out :D

[jivetrky]

Is the 8800GT the card that is just like the GTS only with some more pipes opened up? Or is that something else?

[JH258]

The 8800 GT comes in right below the 8800 GTS. The GT has either 256 MB or 512 MB of ram, while the GTS has 320MB or 640MB. Also the GT will have 96 stream processors like the current GTS and the GTS is going to be bumped up to 112 Stream processors.

[ViperJohn]

The 8800 GT comes in right below the 8800 GTS. The GT has either 256 MB or 512 MB of ram, while the GTS has 320MB or 640MB. Also the GT will have 96 stream processors like the current GTS and the GTS is going to be bumped up to 112 Stream processors.

Close. The 96 SP GT replaces the problem child 96 SP 320mb GTS is now out of production. The improved
640mb GTS gets bumped up to 112 SP's to open the speed spread up between it and the new GT.

Viper

[JH258]

Well, I learned something new, so the 320 MB GTS is going out of production?

[ViperJohn]

Well, I learned something new, so the 320 MB GTS is going out of production?


It is already out of production.

Viper

[atm743]

ahh cool cool

i was going to wait for something to come out in november.

im about to replace my 7900 gt ko superclocked but im afraid that if i get a 8800gtx in a month or two a new card will be put out by nvidia.

Viper have you played the crysis beta on your gtx or ultra yet??

[ViperJohn]

ahh cool cool

i was going to wait for something to come out in november.

im about to replace my 7900 gt ko superclocked but im afraid that if i get a 8800gtx in a month or two a new card will be put out by nvidia.

Viper have you played the Crysis beta on your gtx or ultra yet??

Negative on the Crysis Demo. CoJ DX10 and BioShock DX10 are great with an 8800GTX even at stock
clocks. That is at 1600x1200 with all the eye candy cranked up. You just need some system horsepower
behind the card (any card for that matter).

Viper

[VinnyTAMU]

Close. The 96 SP GT replaces the problem child 96 SP 320mb GTS is now out of production. The improved
640mb GTS gets bumped up to 112 SP's to open the speed spread up between it and the new GT.

Viper

Any word on when the 112 SP 8800GTS 620mb cards will be hitting the market, and how we (the consumer) will be able to tell them apart from the older model (before purchasing)?

[atm743]

Negative on the Crysis Demo. CoJ DX10 and BioShock DX10 are great with an 8800GTX even at stock
clocks. That is at 1600x1200 with all the eye candy cranked up. You just need some system horsepower
behind the card (any card for that matter).

Viper

o man thats perfect. i run at 1680X1050. man cant wait to get a 8800gtx :) i have been IN LOVE with the crysis beta but my card BARLY runs it. if i had more video ram i bet it would not stutter but even more ram it still wont get to playable fps's

thanks :)

one more question

how much more performance did you get over the gtx with the ultra?

not sure if i should save up for the ultra or just get the gtx

[ViperJohn]

Any word on when the 112 SP 8800GTS 620mb cards will be hitting the market, and how we (the consumer) will be able to tell them apart from the older model (before purchasing)?

Same time as the GT or sooner I think. It is kinda a silent change on the GTS and have absolutely know idea how you would tell them apart except by looking at the specs on the box.

Viper

[ViperJohn]

o man thats perfect. i run at 1680X1050. man cant wait to get a 8800gtx :) i have been IN LOVE with the crysis beta but my card BARLY runs it. if i had more video ram i bet it would not stutter but even more ram it still wont get to playable fps's

thanks :)

one more question

how much more performance did you get over the gtx with the ultra?

not sure if i should save up for the ultra or just get the gtx

A typical Ultra will OC a lot higher than a typical GTX right out of the box. The average GTX will OC
to around 621-648 ROP x 1458 Shader / 972 memory good and stable. Some will do a little more of course.
I haven't seen an Ultra yet that wouldn't do 675 ROP x 1620-1674 shader and 1152 memory right out of the
box. Many will run a shader clock in the 1700's stone stock.

Your sig shows an AMD X2 and that will definitely kill you in the benchmarks. It may very well hurt you Crysis
and DX10 too as they are fairly CPU intensive. All of these top end cards need a fast system behind them.

Viper

[atm743]

A typical Ultra will OC a lot higher than a typical GTX right out of the box. The average GTX will OC
to around 621-648 ROP x 1458 Shader / 972 memory good and stable. Some will do a little more of course.
I haven't seen an Ultra yet that wouldn't do 675 ROP x 1620-1674 shader and 1152 memory right out of the
box. Many will run a shader clock in the 1700's stone stock.

Your sig shows an AMD X2 and that will definitely kill you in the benchmarks. It may very well hurt you Crysis
and DX10 too as they are fairly CPU intensive. All of these top end cards need a fast system behind them.

Viper

i plan on getting rid of the amd want to wait for phenom to come out but i doubt that wont be anything near a c2d and besides intel will have their 45nm chips out in January i hear so i guess i can just get the card now then wait to upgrade the cpu and mobo till the 45nm chips and the 2.0 pci express mobo's come out

[Jetster220]

i plan on getting rid of the amd want to wait for phenom to come out but i doubt that wont be anything near a c2d and besides intel will have their 45nm chips out in January i hear so i guess i can just get the card now then wait to upgrade the cpu and mobo till the 45nm chips and the 2.0 pci express mobo's come out

In the mean time, you should be able to get some more steam outta that 4200+. Check my sig, I have mine running at 2.76GHz

[atm743]

In the mean time, you should be able to get some more steam outta that 4200+. Check my sig, I have mine running at 2.76GHz

mines newer to :) being how yours is 939 and mine is AM2

i the cpu will hold up for now. its not that bad. it would help in games like crysis (once its out) and other games that i will probably want to play (UTIII) but yeah

for now it will do

[Jotosuds]

All of these top end cards need a fast system behind them.

Viper

i'm going to end up getting a Q6700 + 2GB RAM + 8800GT setup. would the Q6700 @ stock clocks be fast enough, in your opinion, to push the 8800GT?

building for Crysis and Bioshock.. Crysis mainly. think it could do Crysis @ 1280 w/4xAA with playable framerates?

[atm743]

i'm going to end up getting a Q6700 + 2GB RAM + 8800GT setup. would the Q6700 @ stock clocks be fast enough, in your opinion, to push the 8800GT?

building for Crysis and Bioshock.. Crysis mainly. think it could do Crysis @ 1280 w/4xAA with playable framerates?

i would get the E6850 3.0 ghz stock dual core. and its allows ddr3 ram and 1333fsb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

the q6700 dosen't

plus not allot of programs and games support quad core. now if you were mainly a video editor or do allot of things like that then the quad core is the way to go.

if you are going to play crysis be sure that the video ram is at least 640mb being how thats the Recommended amount of video ram Crytek said that you would need. plus if you want to play with anti aliasing at 4x you will be using all the video ram that you have.

i would get that 8800gts with the 112 stream processors and 640mb of ram

[ViperJohn]

i'm going to end up getting a Q6700 + 2GB RAM + 8800GT setup. would the Q6700 @ stock clocks be fast enough, in your opinion, to push the 8800GT?

building for Crysis and Bioshock.. Crysis mainly. think it could do Crysis @ 1280 w/4xAA with playable framerates?

Probably not at stock clocks. No stock CPU will really cause frame rates are more than just the GFX
card. The FPU's in the CPU(s) are crunching massive amounts of numbers in these new games.

If I remember right the Q6700 is a G0 stepping. Slap a good cooler on it and you will probably get
3.3 to 3.4Ghz out of it at stock CPU Vcore. 3.5-3.6 with a slight bump up in the Vcore. There is a world
of difference between a 2.6Ghz CPU and a 3.4Ghz CPU lol.

Honestly can't say what kind of GPU power Crysis will ultimately take since it isn't out yet lol. It has to
be at least playable on mid range hardware since that is by far what most people have and CryTek
knows it.

Viper

[Hazaro]

Probably not at stock clocks. No stock CPU will really cause frame rates are more than just the GFX
card. The FPU's in the CPU(s) are crunching massive amounts of numbers in these new games.

If I remember right the Q6700 is a G0 stepping. Slap a good cooler on it and you will probably get
3.3 to 3.4Ghz out of it at stock CPU Vcore. 3.5-3.6 with a slight bump up in the Vcore. There is a world
of difference between a 2.6Ghz CPU and a 3.4Ghz CPU lol.

Honestly can't say what kind of GPU power Crysis will ultimately take since it isn't out yet lol. It has to
be at least playable on mid range hardware since that is by far what most people have and CryTek
knows it.

Viper

Agreed

[ViperJohn]

i would get the E6850 3.0 ghz stock dual core. and its allows ddr3 ram and 1333fsb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

the q6700 dosen't

plus not allot of programs and games support quad core. now if you were mainly a video editor or do allot of things like that then the quad core is the way to go.

if you are going to play crysis be sure that the video ram is at least 640mb being how thats the Recommended amount of video ram Crytek said that you would need. plus if you want to play with anti aliasing at 4x you will be using all the video ram that you have.

i would get that 8800gts with the 112 stream processors and 640mb of ram

Crysis will use Q-Cores.

The higher default FSB speed of the new CPU's is a double edged sword as the CPU that have it also have
a lower multiplier (unless you pay more money for a higher speed CPU with a higher multiplier). It is fine for
Joe SixPack that can barely find the "on" button let alone OC his rig but for us OC nut cases that lower multi
may mean your motherboard's chipset runs out of FSB OC headroom well before you ever get up to the CPU's
max OC ability. That can be particularly true if you are on water or more exotic CPU cooling solutions.

Viper

[MadMan007]

i know what the gtx has I had 2 of them :)

the new cards coming, the 8800gt, supposedly a 600/1800 with 96,112,sps, but its 512mb and 256bit. so they can go 512bit easily enuff on this core revision I would think that would be logical.....

512MB is the exact same proportion of Ram:SPs as all the other 8800s. 320MB model simply uses half-density memory chips.

Crysis will use Q-Cores.

The higher default FSB speed of the new CPU's is a double edged sword as the CPU that have it also have
a lower multiplier (unless you pay more money for a higher speed CPU with a higher multiplier). It is fine for
Joe SixPack that can barely find the "on" button let alone OC his rig but for us OC nut cases that lower multi
may mean your motherboard's chipset runs out of FSB OC headroom well before you ever get up to the CPU's
max OC ability. That can be particularly true if you are on water or more exotic CPU cooling solutions.

Viper

Sort of true but the equivalent MSRP-priced chips all have the sam multi just higher stock speeds. e6850=e6600=9x, e6750=e64x0=8x and so on, the higher FSB chips just have higher stock speeds but the same multi so you'd hit hte same chipset and mobo FSB wall at the same exact speed either way. The only catch there is street price isn't always the same for two equivalent-MSRP chips.

[jason4207]

i would get the E6850 3.0 ghz stock dual core. and its allows ddr3 ram and 1333fsb

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115028

the q6700 dosen't

plus not allot of programs and games support quad core. now if you were mainly a video editor or do allot of things like that then the quad core is the way to go.

if you are going to play crysis be sure that the video ram is at least 640mb being how thats the Recommended amount of video ram Crytek said that you would need. plus if you want to play with anti aliasing at 4x you will be using all the video ram that you have.

i would get that 8800gts with the 112 stream processors and 640mb of ram

Any of the C2D/C2Q's can use DDR3. It depends on the Mobo, not the CPU. You can easily OC any of the Quads to a 333FSB, so your argument is mute. Crysis is supposed to make use of more cores, so I would say going quad is your best bet. You can get 3.6GHz out of a Q6600, so no reason to spend extra on the Q6700.

[aja]

If I remember right the Q6700 is a G0 stepping.

Although, knowing Intel, I have a gut feeling that they would take the last few QX6700's they might have floating around and rebrand them as Q6700's.

That would mean there are some B3 Q6700's in the world.

Just speculation on my part...

(yes I am waking sleeping dogs here :beer: )

[atm743]

Any of the C2D/C2Q's can use DDR3. It depends on the Mobo, not the CPU. You can easily OC any of the Quads to a 333FSB, so your argument is mute. Crysis is supposed to make use of more cores, so I would say going quad is your best bet. You can get 3.6GHz out of a Q6600, so no reason to spend extra on the Q6700.

no

from what i know the old c2d's dont have ddr3 memory controllers in them only ddr2 memory controllers.

[Neural Net]

no

from what i know the old c2d's dont have ddr3 memory controllers in them only ddr2 memory controllers.

Erm, if my memory serves me correctly: Intel chips do not have memory controllers in their core like the AMD chips do, instead it is up to the motherboard/NB to manage the memory. As long as the motherboard supports it, the C2Ds can use it.

[jason4207]

no

from what i know the old c2d's dont have ddr3 memory controllers in them only ddr2 memory controllers.

No Intel chip has a memory controller on it. Not till Nehelem anyway. You are thinking of AMD.

[thideras]

Erm, if my memory serves me correctly: Intel chips do not have memory controllers in their core like the AMD chips do, instead it is up to the motherboard/NB to manage the memory. As long as the motherboard supports it, the C2Ds can use it.Your memory does server you correctly. You win! :D :D

[ViperJohn]

no

from what i know the old c2d's dont have ddr3 memory controllers in them only ddr2 memory controllers.

Intel C2D and C2Q do not have internal memory controllers. They are in the NorthBridge of the MB chipset.

It is AMD that likes to stuff the memory controllers in the CPU itself.

Viper

[Neural Net]

Your memory does server you correctly. You win! :D :D

Woot! :D

[Rattle]

http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/GraphicCards/detail_spec.aspx?ID=en-us0000048

[jason4207]

Looks like they took that link down. Maybe they need to revise those specs!