View Full Version : 4.1GHZ ON AIR AHHHH
Metallica
10-16-07, 04:31 AM
Well, i booted @ 4GHz .. so i figured i could get a little more ...
So i tried 514 FSB @ 1.6v.
I got into windows, and tried to load up CPU - Z .. comp froze :(
Once i get my temp thing worked out .. ill see what i can do :D
benscoobert
10-16-07, 04:57 AM
1.7 seems ok on others, what temp are you getting at 1.6?
SeasonalEclipse
10-16-07, 05:00 AM
1.7 seems ok on others, what temp are you getting at 1.6?
And thats what the Russians said about Chernobyl.
Each board can act different, but I had large stability issues with my IP35pro around that fsb untill I maxed out the mch, then it hit 575 easy.
Though, you will all so be close to hitting the max that chip will do on air.
Metallica
10-16-07, 11:25 AM
1.7 seems ok on others, what temp are you getting at 1.6?
Umm .. about 36c idle .. i cant load it for more than a few secs .. so its hard to get load temps lol
If you look in the mobo section, you will see my temp problem :(
And thats what the Russians said about Chernobyl.
Haha! I'd be scared to go above 1.55 personally. It's cool to see dudes live dangerously, but man, 1.6+ on air. Make me clench my teeth.
deathman20
10-16-07, 12:30 PM
Haha! I'd be scared to go above 1.55 personally. It's cool to see dudes live dangerously, but man, 1.6+ on air. Make me clench my teeth.
I've done 1.6V in bios on my current chip and it bearly warmed past 60C on a Ultra-120 @ 3.76Ghz. Its not really the voltage that ups the temp its the clock that you have to worry about. If its there for a short period of time ti should have little to no effect on the CPU without going totally overkill on the voltage like with a v-mod to up it more.
Metallica
10-16-07, 12:33 PM
I've done 1.6V in bios on my current chip and it bearly warmed past 60C on a Ultra-120 @ 3.76Ghz. Its not really the voltage that ups the temp its the clock that you have to worry about. If its there for a short period of time ti should have little to no effect on the CPU without going totally overkill on the voltage like with a v-mod to up it more.
Well, not that i don't think i can go higher, i just would like to wait until i can get my temps right. All my temps are estimated ..
From what i estimate they are, i could go higher ... but to be on the safe side, I'm waiting :P
Well, not that i don't think i can go higher, i just would like to wait until i can get my temps right. All my temps are estimated ..
From what i estimate they are, i could go higher ... but to be on the safe side, I'm waiting :P
why are you estimating your temps?
follow this: http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php?p=5242167&postcount=9
hUMANbEATbOX
10-16-07, 01:21 PM
Well, not that i don't think i can go higher, i just would like to wait until i can get my temps right. All my temps are estimated ..
From what i estimate they are, i could go higher ... but to be on the safe side, I'm waiting :P
Temps don't even matter anyways. Temps will not kill your cpu. High temps can cause instability, so if you are experiencing instability, do what you can to lower the temps!
The bottom line is that ALL temp readings you will ever find are all based off of software. There isn't a single temp program that will give you the true temps (at least not on purpose). So unless you are boring out the IHS and placing a industrial grade thermometer in there, I would give up on the "true" temps. The more important factor is the delta between the idle temps and the load temps that you see in CoreTemp or TAT (most "accurate" progs going).
I have run Orthos on my e6300 for 16 hours at 3.5ghz, running 70c. Nothing to be concerned about. :)
Metallica
10-16-07, 01:33 PM
Temps don't even matter anyways. Temps will not kill your cpu. High temps can cause instability, so if you are experiencing instability, do what you can to lower the temps!
The bottom line is that ALL temp readings you will ever find are all based off of software. There isn't a single temp program that will give you the true temps (at least not on purpose). So unless you are boring out the IHS and placing a industrial grade thermometer in there, I would give up on the "true" temps. The more important factor is the delta between the idle temps and the load temps that you see in CoreTemp or TAT (most "accurate" progs going).
I have run Orthos on my e6300 for 16 hours at 3.5ghz, running 70c. Nothing to be concerned about. :)
Well, I'm convinced that i need at least 1.62v to get 4GHz stable .. So i have no clue if im like .. at 100c lol
jason4207
10-16-07, 01:40 PM
You could use a throttle watch program to see if you were at 100C. At that temp your CPU would begin throttling, and the program would alert you.
Edit: Why is it that you can't get CoreTemp or TAT to work? They should give you "good enough" temp readings.
Maverick0984
10-16-07, 03:19 PM
Just so you know, you can give it too much voltage and damage the CPU even if the temps seem okay...
Metallica
10-16-07, 03:31 PM
Just so you know, you can give it too much voltage and damage the CPU even if the temps seem okay...
I was reading somewhere that someone went to 1.78v on ln2 ...
Some of the capacitors popped off or something lol
So .. i think it should be able to handle more O.o
Maverick0984
10-16-07, 03:34 PM
I was reading somewhere that someone went to 1.78v on ln2 ...
Some of the capacitors popped off or something lol
So .. i think it should be able to handle more O.o
You must really not care about frying that CPU. There is a reason even those on water don't venture to the voltage you are giving that CPU.
deathman20
10-16-07, 03:38 PM
You must really not care about frying that CPU. There is a reason even those on water don't venture to the voltage you are giving that CPU.
Well not for 24/7 clocks.... Those voltages are good for testing or 3D benches and that.
As well 1 reason why the caps popped off a CPU using LN2 is that its fricken cold... The solder might not hold that well at those type of tempatures.
Cheator
10-16-07, 03:50 PM
You must really not care about frying that CPU. There is a reason even those on water don't venture to the voltage you are giving that CPU.
No! Shhh... don't worry man ;)
Yeah go ahead Metallica, pump up the voltage. Its all good man *snicker*
jason4207
10-16-07, 07:38 PM
It would be nice to have at least one report of someone frying one of these CPUs just so we know the limits. I'm just glad it isn't me!
1.67v Tuniq Tower
http://www.ocforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=54673&stc=1&d=1166974453
1.9v LN2
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gautamb/5400-1M.png
This CPU spent almost its entire time while I owned it being beaten hard and it never skipped a beat. You'd have to do something really stupid to kill a CPU with voltage.
The cap popping off is a design flaw with Asus 965 and P35 mobos. You usually don't need to worry about it unless you're above 1.8v. It doesn't harm the CPU, and in fact it doesn't harm the mobo either given that the cap gets replaced.
deathman20
10-16-07, 09:22 PM
My CPU lived... the one I'm on right now through a fire from an old mobo around the CPU socket since it was being actively charge with voltage on the heatsink for some reason.
Metallica
10-16-07, 10:09 PM
1.67v Tuniq Tower
http://www.ocforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=54673&stc=1&d=1166974453
1.9v LN2
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gautamb/5400-1M.png
This CPU spent almost its entire time while I owned it being beaten hard and it never skipped a beat. You'd have to do something really stupid to kill a CPU with voltage.
The cap popping off is a design flaw with Asus 965 and P35 mobos. You usually don't need to worry about it unless you're above 1.8v. It doesn't harm the CPU, and in fact it doesn't harm the mobo either given that the cap gets replaced.
Woah. O_O
Any clue why my programs are reporting bad temps? Could it be a bad O/S install? Only thing i can link it to is the mobo ...
Brolloks
10-16-07, 10:17 PM
Woah. O_O
Any clue why my programs are reporting bad temps? Could it be a bad O/S install? Only thing i can link it to is the mobo ...
Are you on Vista or XP?
Metallica
10-16-07, 10:22 PM
Are you on Vista or XP?
XPXPXPXP!
lol
Brolloks
10-16-07, 10:25 PM
XPXPXPXP!
lol
Do you have the latest beta coretemp, have you tried TAT ?
I'm sure you have been asked all these before...just does not make sense why your coretemp reads such wrong temps?
Metallica
10-16-07, 10:29 PM
Do you have the latest beta coretemp, have you tried TAT ?
I'm sure you have been asked all these before...just does not make sense why your coretemp reads such wrong temps?
TAT wont load, get some odd error, ill post it in a sec, and yea, i have the latest coretemp.
Metallica
10-16-07, 10:31 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1473/81343811uq7.jpg
Brolloks
10-16-07, 10:34 PM
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1473/81343811uq7.jpg
You must have a cranky copy of XP LOL
Metallica
10-16-07, 10:54 PM
You must have a cranky copy of XP LOL
Do you really think so? lol
Brolloks
10-16-07, 10:59 PM
You know what I just installed TAT on my IP35-E and got the same message...first I thought it was 'cause I'm running Vista, but then it rang a bell that when i tried to do the same to my Abit Ab9 some time back i got the same problem...on all my other boards (Asus, Gigabyte etc) TAT works fine, I think it is an Abit conflict...that is what I suspect anyway
Metallica
10-16-07, 11:04 PM
You know what I just installed TAT on my IP35-E and got the same message...first I thought it was 'cause I'm running Vista, but then it rang a bell that when i tried to do the same to my Abit Ab9 some time back i got the same problem...on all my other boards (Asus, Gigabyte etc) TAT works fine, I think it is an Abit conflict...that is what I suspect anyway
/cry
When you increase the voltage to the CPU, do you also need to increase voltage in other places? MCH/VTT/ICH
Brolloks
10-16-07, 11:07 PM
/cry
When you increase the voltage to the CPU, do you also need to increase voltage in other places? MCH/VTT/ICH
Yeah, you have to play with it though, every board and CPU combo is different....MCH (NB) is the one that needs more juice as your FSB increases
Metallica
10-16-07, 11:18 PM
Yeah, you have to play with it though, every board and CPU combo is different....MCH (NB) is the one that needs more juice as your FSB increases
I still think I'm using to much for what I'm at ...
Get on msn!
jason4207
10-17-07, 07:25 AM
What I do is drop the multi, so that I know it's just the FSB that I'm trying to get stable. Then I play w/ the Reference Voltages and the NB, FSB, and other various voltages besides vCore and vDimm as I raise the FSB to find out what's stable at higher and higher FSB speeds. Once I have maxed out the FSB, I know the limit I can take my CPU to.
maxFSB x maxMULTI = maxCPU_FREQUENCY.
hUMANbEATbOX
10-17-07, 09:28 AM
Any clue why my programs are reporting bad temps?
What temp is Coretemp reporting? What makes you think these temps are 'bad', keeping in mind what I said about ALL software based temp reporting being 'bad'?
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