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Metallica
10-16-07, 12:21 PM
What is that program i see people using to see what there HDD speeds are?

I would like to see mine, and compare it to the results of a RAID array.

Maybe I'll get another 7200.10 and try that matrix thingymabobber

Rattle
10-16-07, 12:41 PM
http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach

http://www.hdtune.com/

hdtach

hdtune

have fun

Metallica
10-16-07, 12:43 PM
http://www.simplisoftware.com/Public/index.php?request=HdTach

http://www.hdtune.com/

hdtach

hdtune

have fun

tyvm :beer:

bing
10-16-07, 12:46 PM
And also PCMark for high level benchmark, it's result shows closer to real life performance. ;)


Edit :

Geez... c'mon Rattle, its not fair, you're scaring him with his single drive with your score there ! :D

Metallica
10-16-07, 12:54 PM
And also PCMark for high level benchmark, it's result shows closer to real life performance. ;)


Edit :

Geez... c'mon Rattle, its not fair, you're scaring him with his single drive with your score there ! :D

Lol. What kind of HDD's were they?

I'll post my test in a sec.

EDIT: I looked in your sig .. wtf are perps? lol

bing
10-16-07, 12:59 PM
Its Seagate Perpendicular Technology starting at 7200.10 generation like yours, but he uses 2 in Matrix Raid.

Btw, could you try PCMark at your current configuration and submit your result at ORB and post the result here ?

Metallica
10-16-07, 12:59 PM
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9854/hddqu6.jpg

How's that? Any good?

If your speeds were with RAID 0 (with 7200.10's like mine .. omfg im getting another one lol)

Metallica
10-16-07, 12:59 PM
Its Seagate Perpendicular Technology starting at 7200.10 generation like yours, but he uses 2 in Matrix Raid.

Btw, could you try PCMark at your current configuration and submit your result at ORB and post the result here ?
Will do.

EDIT: I'm DLing it, about 10 mins.

jason4207
10-16-07, 01:20 PM
Did you enable write-back cache?

Also, make sure you removed the 3Gb jumper on the HDD.

Metallica
10-16-07, 01:36 PM
Did you enable write-back cache?

Also, make sure you removed the 3Gb jumper on the HDD.

What is write back cache? Well, how do i enable it? And there's only one jumper on the HDD, so .. remove it?

jason4207
10-16-07, 01:48 PM
Yes, remove the jumper.

I can't remember how to enable write-back cache...it's in the Matrix Storage Manager utility I think. You may be able to enable via the HD Tach software as well.

Once you do all this do a re-test.

bing
10-16-07, 01:54 PM
Jason, he is using single drive, that write back cache thingy is only for raid.

Just pull that jumper, it will unlock the full speed 3Gbps of that Seagate Sata interface insteadof 1.5Gbps.

Metallica
10-16-07, 02:11 PM
Jason, he is using single drive, that write back cache thingy is only for raid.

Just pull that jumper, it will unlock the full speed 3Gbps of that Seagate Sata interface insteadof 1.5Gbps.

Alright. I can not get PCMark05 to run. It says "Benchmark aborted" as soon as it starts the HDD test.

Rattle
10-16-07, 02:14 PM
My drives are the new single platter 250gb seagate perpendicular drives. I beleive they are using the platter from the new 7200.11 drives. Not very sure about that last part.

I have 40gb slices off them for a 80gb OS partition and this increases the speed over raiding the whole drive. The rest of the drive space in raid 0 gets me 160 mb/s and 13 random access which is still pretty untouchable for $140 and 500gb.

Bing and a few others help stear me in the right direction with these and I thank them again.

Metallica
10-16-07, 02:27 PM
My drives are the new single platter 250gb seagate perpendicular drives. I beleive they are using the platter from the new 7200.11 drives. Not very sure about that last part.

I have 40gb slices off them for a 80gb OS partition and this increases the speed over raiding the whole drive. The rest of the drive space in raid 0 gets me 160 mb/s and 13 random access which is still pretty untouchable for $140 and 500gb.

Bing and a few others help stear me in the right direction with these and I thank them again.

Yea, I'm defiantly gonna get another.

Metallica
10-16-07, 03:11 PM
Without jumper:

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5982/39241058yp1.jpg

jason4207
10-16-07, 03:15 PM
Your Burst speed is up, but everything else looks like crap. 27.8ms seek time?

Were any other programs running when you did this test?

Metallica
10-16-07, 03:18 PM
Your Burst speed is up, but everything else looks like crap. 27.8ms seek time?

Were any other programs running when you did this test?

No, but i was getting weird lagg ... I'll retest ..

Metallica
10-16-07, 03:24 PM
K:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/1853/35465004nn6.jpg

Speed went down .. but .. lower access time O.o

nd4spdbh2
10-16-07, 05:23 PM
My drives are the new single platter 250gb seagate perpendicular drives. I beleive they are using the platter from the new 7200.11 drives. Not very sure about that last part.

I have 40gb slices off them for a 80gb OS partition and this increases the speed over raiding the whole drive. The rest of the drive space in raid 0 gets me 160 mb/s and 13 random access which is still pretty untouchable for $140 and 500gb.

Bing and a few others help stear me in the right direction with these and I thank them again.

you are correct the lastest model of the 7200.10 seagate 250gb drive uses the same 250gb platter found on ALL of the 7200.11's

there are 2 models of the 250gb 7200.10 with the new 250gb platter the ST3250410AS and the ST3250310AS, only diff is the 410 has 16mb chache and the 310 has 8mb.

page 20 of this pdf tells all the diffs between them
http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/desktop/Barracuda%207200.10/100402371f.pdf


And seems as how we are posting pics up this is my matrix raid 0 array (50gb) with 2 7200.10 250gb perps (older model with 2 platters ST3250620AS.
http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/perpraid/matrix.JPG

and this is just a single one
http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/perpraid/single250.JPG

Metallica
10-16-07, 05:30 PM
you are correct the lastest model of the 7200.10 seagate 250gb drive uses the same 250gb platter found on ALL of the 7200.11's

there are 2 models of the 250gb 7200.10 with the new 250gb platter the ST3250410AS and the ST3250310AS, only diff is the 410 has 16mb chache and the 310 has 8mb.

page 20 of this pdf tells all the diffs between them
http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/support/disc/manuals/desktop/Barracuda%207200.10/100402371f.pdf


And seems as how we are posting pics up this is my matrix raid 0 array (50gb) with 2 7200.10 250gb perps (older model with 2 platters ST3250620AS.
http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/perpraid/matrix.JPG

and this is just a single one
http://teamlosi.andrevas.net/pics/comp/perpraid/single250.JPG

How am i getting higher than you on burst?

nd4spdbh2
10-16-07, 06:32 PM
with the single drive bencmark?

Cus i ran that benchmark on a board that only supported sata 150 not sata 300

as for burst speed on my matrix raid, its all bout the write back chache baby!

Metallica
10-16-07, 07:05 PM
In what areas does RAID 0 speed up? Like ... just moving files around?

bing
10-16-07, 10:30 PM
Alright. I can not get PCMark05 to run. It says "Benchmark aborted" as soon as it starts the HDD test.

Probably your rig was too unstable ? How bout lower down your OC and re-run again.

The reason I'm asking you to run that benchmark is to compare your rig with my utterly crap & inferior rig like mine to have a real comparison, but I'm on raid ! :D

In what areas does RAID 0 speed up? Like ... just moving files around?

Faster booting, big files activitiies like audio/video processing, program load times.

Just try until you're able to complete the PCMark and post the result ORB and share it here. We'll see ! :D