penryn qx9650 4ghz no problem!

[Oc1Kenube]

Wow if this chip can do almost 4.2 ghz on an arctic freezer 7 pro, i can only dream of these chips potential performance on a u120e or under water.

http://www.custompc.co.uk/news/601506/intel-core-2-extreme-qx9650---first-look/page1.html

[thideras]

Ok, read through the entire article....and I found this:

By dropping the multiplier back down to nine, but increasing the FSB from 333MHz to 466MHz and the vcore to 1.65V, the QX9650 was happy to run at 4.19GHz, but no higher. At these settings the video encoding score jumped from 1,671 all the way up to 2,357 (a 41 per cent increase) while SuperPi was completed in 36 per cent less time and CineBench R10 ran 32 per cent faster.

So...they did a 25% overclock (3.33->4.26) and received a 41% boost????

Either something is choking at 3.33....or that bench fails.

[BobcatDan]

The FSB was jacked up 40%, could have been a bandwidth issue, thats odd though.
Dan

[Jhonas]

or maybe increasing the fsb speed makes a lot more of a differnce with the quad core. Why arent you happy that the new quads can do 4 ghz on air? if the extreme edition can do that, then the lower end ones should as well, but to a slightly lesser extent. Imagine a 45nm GO Q6600 equivilant. That would really be amazing.
Cant wait for these to come out and for me to be able to buy one....

[thideras]

or maybe increasing the fsb speed makes a lot more of a differnce with the quad core. Why arent you happy that the new quads can do 4 ghz on air? if the extreme edition can do that, then the lower end ones should as well, but to a slightly lesser extent. Imagine a 45nm GO Q6600 equivilant. That would really be amazing.
Cant wait for these to come out and for me to be able to buy one....I never said I wasn't happy. CPU benchmarks should scale linearly with core speed. The only time it doesn't is if something is bottlenecking.

[Oc1Kenube]

or maybe increasing the fsb speed makes a lot more of a differnce with the quad core. Why arent you happy that the new quads can do 4 ghz on air? if the extreme edition can do that, then the lower end ones should as well, but to a slightly lesser extent. Imagine a 45nm GO Q6600 equivilant. That would really be amazing.
Cant wait for these to come out and for me to be able to buy one....

Agreed 4ghz on air is awesome, im waiting for these too

[Karadhas]

It's called the Q9450.

[thideras]

It's called the Q9450.:confused:

[Oc1Kenube]

It's called the Q9450.

No really it's not

[jmorgan]

Q9450 has a 8x multi meaning 466x8=3728mhz not your 4ghz you think you can get easily and remember he was pushing 1.65v to run 466.

The Max FSB is not going to change, I have yet to see one of these qx9650 do 500fsb on air, have not seen it with LN2 either, they are running 13x multi and 475fsb

The Q9450 will be limited by the multi, I doubt any will run 4ghz, that would take 500fsb, I just dont see that happening.

Also quads demand more then dual cores, just because your dual core can run 500fsb does not mean your quad will on the same mb, the require more voltage.


I think the E8500 will be very cool though 9.5 multi dual core, if you can run 500fsb that would be 4750mhz. I could see a dual core hitting 500fsb no problem. 4.7ghz dual core > 3.8ghz quad core unless you do a ton of video stuff

[Oc1Kenube]

Q9450 has a 8x multi meaning 466x8=3728ghz not your 4ghz you think you can get easily and remember he was pushing 1.65v to run 466.

The Max FSB is not going to change, I have yet to see one of these qx9650 do 500fsb on air, have not seen it with LN2 either, they are running 13x multi and 475fsb

The Q9450 will be limited by the multi, I doubt any will run 4ghz, that would take 500fsb, I just dont see that happening.

Just as well im not talking about the q9450 then eh! the title clearly states qx9650

[jmorgan]

I know you are not but other people in this thread think they are going to get qx9650 results with a Q9450, that will not be the case.

Also you are alittle behind, the QX9650 has hit 4.7ghz on air 4ghz is not an issue

[Elluzion]

People forget that they have an unlocked multiplier...

[Oc1Kenube]

i realize that the multi is unlocked but just look at how fsb speeds have jumped, with peeps struggling to get 400fsb 12 months ago myself included, im still stuck at 380 btw, to the modern board pushing close to 500fsb on almost stock voltages, 690i boards and x48 boards are not far off so 4ghz in a couple of months may indeed be the norm.

[jason4207]

i realize that the multi is unlocked but just look at how fsb speeds have jumped, with peeps struggling to get 400fsb 12 months ago myself included, im still stuck at 380 btw, to the modern board pushing close to 500fsb on almost stock voltages, 690i boards and x48 boards are not far off so 4ghz in a couple of months may indeed be the norm.

I'd like to think new boards will be able to push the FSB higher on the quads, but I think there may be some kind of FSB limitation inherent in the CPU itself.

Time will tell, though, but I'm guessing most folks w/ Q9450's will be running at 3.6GHz 24/7 just like they are w/ Q6600/x32x0's. Temps will be the main difference.

[tranceaddict]

This whole issue with the cheaper cores coming in Jan. 08 needing high FSB because of low multipliers really got me thinking as well. These cores look really promising with an unlocked Multi., but how far will they OC in terms of the FSB? Are there any tests so far with the qx9650 and max FSB achieved?

[Hipcrostino]

1.65vcore is a LOT even for a 65nm. these are 45nm so they should be using LESS voltage. You couldn't maintain that voltage on air i don't think.

[Oc1Kenube]

Chips already bering clocked to 4.7ghz on air, use the search function, 45nm ftw

[satandole666]

All of these tests are borderline useless in my opinion.

If someone wants to show me a 24 hour Orthos run at 4.7ghz (or even 4.19ghz) or air we'll talk.

[Evilsizer]

All of these tests are borderline useless in my opinion.

If someone wants to show me a 24 hour Orthos run at 4.7ghz (or even 4.19ghz) or air we'll talk.

the 4.7ghz he talks about is from a dual core, E8500
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=534766
if you look he ran dual 32m's which imo still a system stresser and did pass at 4.4ghz. thats still really high compared to what we are seeing now on G0 steps. he run was on air just think if it was on water im sure the 4.7ghz would be 23m and your 24hr stable...

[satandole666]

I'm not saying it isn't a step forward. I'm sure these chips will run much better than the current line up. If not, why upgrade?

I just don't see 4.7ghz as a 24/7 setup on air. I'm not a bencher I am a gamer. For me to upgrade I'd like to see a system than can vastly improve on my current 24/7 (3600) and my max (around 3.8). I bet I could probably pull down 4-4.2ghz on a G0 (water, mind you) but that isn't worth the additional money to me.

That's all I'm saying. It is great that they are hitting 4.7ghz but it is of absolutely no use to me.

[Evilsizer]

I'm not saying it isn't a step forward. I'm sure these chips will run much better than the current line up. If not, why upgrade?

I just don't see 4.7ghz as a 24/7 setup on air. I'm not a bencher I am a gamer. For me to upgrade I'd like to see a system than can vastly improve on my current 24/7 (3600) and my max (around 3.8). I bet I could probably pull down 4-4.2ghz on a G0 (water, mind you) but that isn't worth the additional money to me.

That's all I'm saying. It is great that they are hitting 4.7ghz but it is of absolutely no use to me.

you have me a bit perplexed by what your sig shows, watercooling already. the only thing you would do is just change cpu's. how is that what you have now going to cost you any extra money? esp even if you low ball it and call 4.4ghz 24/7 stable on air and 4.6ghz low ball on water. compared to your current oc of 3.6ghz 24/7 thats a 1ghz increase going to a new 45nm cpu.

i understand the air cooling portion but your statement later and on sig dont match up. maybe you mean something different im not sure.....maybe your sig is out of date and you dropped your watercooling setup?

[satandole666]

you have me a bit perplexed by what your sig shows, watercooling already. the only thing you would do is just change cpu's. how is that what you have now going to cost you any extra money? esp even if you low ball it and call 4.4ghz 24/7 stable on air and 4.6ghz low ball on water. compared to your current oc of 3.6ghz 24/7 thats a 1ghz increase going to a new 45nm cpu.

i understand the air cooling portion but your statement later and on sig dont match up. maybe you mean something different im not sure.....maybe your sig is out of date and you dropped your watercooling setup?

If I can run 4.6ghz "low ball" on water with one of these I'll buy one in a heartbeat. I think that is being extremely optimistic though. A 1ghz increase plus some cache is a nice boost and "might" be worth the upgrade. I still don't think it will happen though.

[Evilsizer]

well his cpu is a ES being early sample.. the retails could wind up ocing better but yea its a wait and see thing. depending on my tax return i may buy a few to find the best out of that group..

[satandole666]

well his cpu is a ES being early sample.. the retails could wind up ocing better but yea its a wait and see thing. depending on my tax return i may buy a few to find the best out of that group..

Yeah, that's my exact mindset. I like reading this stuff but I don't expect to have it in my hands on the day of release.

I don't see myself getting rid of my E6600 until one of two things happens.

A vastly better architecture is released, yielding a much higher clock per clock efficiency and higher operating frequencies or...

Quad cores become "necessary" for games to be playable at 1600x1200 with some AA/AF and high quality.

[Surfrider77]

Well, depending on gouge prices tomorrow I may pick one up.

I will be running on my TR Ultra 120 Ex with 2 Scythe S-Flexes sandwiching the cooler in push pull.

I think my air cooling rivals mid-level water so hopefully I can get a good indicator of how this chip will perform. Still not 100% convinced though on the purchase, but I am seriously contemplating it.

I will certainly have a thread open with results if it happens.

[Evilsizer]

Well, depending on gouge prices tomorrow I may pick one up.

I will be running on my TR Ultra 120 Ex with 2 Scythe S-Flexes sandwiching the cooler in push pull.

I think my air cooling rivals mid-level water so hopefully I can get a good indicator of how this chip will perform. Still not 100% convinced though on the purchase, but I am seriously contemplating it.

I will certainly have a thread open with results if it happens.

huh tomorrow? you mean the QX9xxx's?

[Tyranos]

Most of thecrapvendors seem set on selling it for around 1100 even though they don't have any stock yet.

[Surfrider77]

huh tomorrow? you mean the QX9xxx's?

Yes, tomorrow for the QX9650.