Dman's 8800GT Thread

[deathman20]

Alright reserved for my EVGA 8800GT coming in tomorrow or Tuesday. Which ever the case is depending if UPS will deliver it when I'm home or not.

Soo I will be running... Well OCed clocks :) Going to 700/1750/1000 first then work from there.

Test Programs planning on running, surely not all in the same night since I'll want to play games :)
3DMark06:
Crysis Ingame Results:
Crysis GPU Bench:
Supreme Commander Benches:

And really what ever else comes up. Sorry won't be running 05.

System will be at 3.2Ghz, 400Mhz clock, running Vista Ultimate 64-bit.

[Neural Net]

Nice, I will be keeping an eye on this one. :)

[Rattle]

I should have some nice sli GT results here mid week, my 680i and cards are coming tuesday.

why no 05 ?

[Hazaro]

I thought it said "Damn 8800GT Threads" when I glanced at it,

but it's another one :P

Why are you buying one when you have a 2900XT?

[Neural Net]

I thought it said "Damn 8800GT Threads" when I glanced at it,

but it's another one :P

Why are you buying one when you have a 2900XT?

Why, to inform us potential buyers of its performance! :D

[deathman20]

I thought it said "Damn 8800GT Threads" when I glanced at it,

but it's another one :P

Why are you buying one when you have a 2900XT?

Hey its performing near a 8800GTX, figured why not give it a try. :)

Besides the fact its less power, smaller, and potentially quieter im all for it.

As for why no 05... eh its like 3 years old :p Time to move on hehe.

[Rattle]

yeah but its still a highly valid benchmark and performance tool, 06 alone doesnt cover the full spectrum of video performance IMO.

[ChinStrap]

yeah but its still a highly valid benchmark and performance tool, 06 alone doesnt cover the full spectrum of video performance IMO.

i think they all have their 'nitch'

i like to loop 01' forest when i feel like heating things up! :)

[deathman20]

Well got the card, nearly missed the UPS gal, whew glad I left work just that little bit early.

Anyways I ordered the 8800GT standard from EVGA on Thursday, shipped out and gots it now. Well I didn't get the 8800GT, well thats what the box says anyways and what I actually ordered, but I got the 8800GT SC edition card with clocks of 648/1620/950 :) Niiice, like it really matters anyways its going to be OCed hehe.

[deathman20]

First results of 06.. will update with OCed ones in a few min. All 8800GT scores are vista with normal boot up programs running, ZERO TWEAKS.

8800GT 650/1620/950 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3656805 11609 Points
8800GT 702/1782/999 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3656899 12034 Points
CPU @ 3.6Ghz 8800GT 702/1728/999 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3658032 12580 Points

To give reference heres some 2900XT scores I have and this is on the same install of Vista mind you, as well shut down every program I could to get these scores.

CPU @ 3.76Ghz HD 2900XT 890/1050 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2007630 12558 Points
CPU @ 3.6Ghz HD 2900XT 743/828 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2007520 11001 Points

So this card has much potential. For my temps reached 62C in testing, GPU Fan is set at 64% idles around 44C. The stepping on the shader clocks is huge, jumps for me from 1728 to my 1782, huge jump. Anyways dinner time I'll play around with it a bit more later. But overall looks like my CPU is the one thats limiting my score in 3DMark 06.

[Phrenetical]

again all i can say is how does it compare with your 2900xt scores?

If yours proves to be better im def getting rid of my 2900xt i can't stand the noise anymore and i feel icky running at default clocks on it.

[Caust1c]

Are you going to mount an aftermarket cooler on it?

[deathman20]

again all i can say is how does it compare with your 2900xt scores?

If yours proves to be better im def getting rid of my 2900xt i can't stand the noise anymore and i feel icky running at default clocks on it.

Currently like it I have to check actual game tests to see if theres actual improvement so please stand by. Noise at 65% fan speed i can't hear it, at 70-75% I can slightly hear the humm and 100% yeah its loud higher pitched than the 2900XT but I've never cranked that to 100%.

Are you going to mount an aftermarket cooler on it?

Not sure have to see how this cools when gaming, so far while its just bench marks I don't see why I would.

[deathman20]

Crysis so far not bad gaining roughly 5-9FPS ingame on the low end and definatly higher on the upper end of the spectrum, but the low end is what counts for sure.

[deathman20]

Supreme Commander Bench.. Scored 16183. Think I might of gotten high 14's or low 15k's before. Plus side is the frames are much better, I was lucky if I hit 30FPS before at least with this card I might dip into the 20's but typically in the upper 30's and more yay.

Crysis benchmark.. 1280x720 set Very High detail 32-bit mode, getting ~37 FPS using the GPU Benchmark. It crashed on exiting the last loop not sure why but thats what the average was reading right before it finished. Low was ~28FPS and high was ~48FPS. Not bad at all.

Now I'll have to work on cranking the GPU up even mroe and finding its sweet spot.

[deathman20]

Well I've been playing around alot recently with clocks and that. Mind you each of these tests where basically back to back no reboots or anything, minor programs running in the background only 3.2Ghz on the CPU.

12034 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3656899
12002 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3719740
11934 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3719942
11821 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3719597

New benchmark program I used. This seemed to be a good tester of stability on the locks and heated my card up well beyond what Crysis even has.
http://dee.cz/lightsmark/

Got 223.3 FPS @ 1920x1200 Full Screen w/ 720/1782/950.4

With those clocks, temp hit 69C (65% fan speed)... in crysis same settings for an hour I'd be lucky to see 63-64C for more than a few seconds. So with that said, if somethings unstable it seems to kick out pretty quickly into the test which is very nice for stability testing.

[Hazaro]

Well I've been playing around alot recently with clocks and that. Mind you each of these tests where basically back to back no reboots or anything, minor programs running in the background only 3.2Ghz on the CPU.

12034 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3656899
12002 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3719740
11934 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3719942
11821 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3719597

New benchmark program I used. This seemed to be a good tester of stability on the locks and heated my card up well beyond what Crysis even has.
http://dee.cz/lightsmark/

Got 223.3 FPS @ 1920x1200 Full Screen w/ 720/1782/950.4

With those clocks, temp hit 69C (65% fan speed)... in crysis same settings for an hour I'd be lucky to see 63-64C for more than a few seconds. So with that said, if somethings unstable it seems to kick out pretty quickly into the test which is very nice for stability testing.

Have you tried benching higher than 720/1782/950 on 06?

[deathman20]

Well was running 999 on memory before but really haven't tried higher. My memory was causing crashes at that speed when I tried to up my core or even shader clock. I was able to drop the memory down and much better. :)

Whats the highest you've tried in 06?

[deathman20]

Actually re-ran 06...

12247 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3730044 @ 738/1836/999

Definatly the fastest I can get. Might beable to up the core another notch but 756/1890/999 was no go, 756/1836/999 was a no go, and 738/1890/999 was no go.

Not sure if better cooling would help out or not at this point, it hit 61C during benching but that was it otherwise truely it was 57-58C through most of the testing.

[Hazaro]

Actually re-ran 06...

12247 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3730044 @ 738/1836/999

Definatly the fastest I can get. Might beable to up the core another notch but 756/1890/999 was no go, 756/1836/999 was a no go, and 738/1890/999 was no go.

Not sure if better cooling would help out or not at this point, it hit 61C during benching but that was it otherwise truely it was 57-58C through most of the testing.

Highest that I've tested is 740/1890/1018. I don't remember if I've tried higher. I just want to play some Gears and CoD4 atm... When more info on the BIOS voltmod comes out I'll look into it.

Grabbed a 13250 when I pushed my CPU from 3.2 to 3.33

[mysterfix]

Nice going Dman, I got my card Friday and did some benches and such and what I've found so far is that 3dMark 03 seems to be the best thing for finding max stable clocks. I could run Hellgate, COD 4, 3dMark 06, and a few others without issue but 03 would lock up the computer everytime.

So far with the card volt modded and 1.33v vGPU I'm able to run 880/2214/1900 no problem. Even with 1.46v (Load) I'm not able to obtain 900mhz stable on the core, it's benchable in 06 but not stable for games.

[deathman20]

Highest that I've tested is 740/1890/1018. I don't remember if I've tried higher. I just want to play some Gears and CoD4 atm... When more info on the BIOS voltmod comes out I'll look into it.

Grabbed a 13250 when I pushed my CPU from 3.2 to 3.33

Yeah vista wreaks my scores :( Surely I need a fresh install as well since I've had my ATI card and 3 mobo's on this install among other things.

Nice going Dman, I got my card Friday and did some benches and such and what I've found so far is that 3dMark 03 seems to be the best thing for finding max stable clocks. I could run Hellgate, COD 4, 3dMark 06, and a few others without issue but 03 would lock up the computer everytime.

So far with the card volt modded and 1.33v vGPU I'm able to run 880/2214/1900 no problem. Even with 1.46v (Load) I'm not able to obtain 900mhz stable on the core, it's benchable in 06 but not stable for games.


Damn nice, whats the stock vGPU? Whats the temps you getting with that much voltage?

Definatly would love a bios vGPU bump, since well I wouldn't trust myself with an actual mod.

[mysterfix]

Stock is 1.1v under load temps top out at 40ºc

[deathman20]

Stock is 1.1v under load temps top out at 40ºc

Nice.. Me wanty vGPU boost ;)

[Hazaro]

Nice going Dman, I got my card Friday and did some benches and such and what I've found so far is that 3dMark 03 seems to be the best thing for finding max stable clocks. I could run Hellgate, COD 4, 3dMark 06, and a few others without issue but 03 would lock up the computer everytime.

So far with the card volt modded and 1.33v vGPU I'm able to run 880/2214/1900 no problem. Even with 1.46v (Load) I'm not able to obtain 900mhz stable on the core, it's benchable in 06 but not stable for games.

Isn't the next step for core like 920 or something?

Grats on the clock man, now get a vmod thread about your card up :)

[deathman20]

12742 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3732686

E6400 @ 3.4Ghz
4Gigs G.Skill PC-6400 @ 425Mhz
8800GT 738/1836/999
169.04 Drivers

Think thats it for my OCing for today, time to enjoy a game :)

[mysterfix]

Isn't the next step for core like 920 or something?

Grats on the clock man, now get a vmod thread about your card up :)

Nahh, core clock stepping is dependant on shader clocks, higher shader clocks give you finer core stepping. At default shader clocks the core steps are huge but set shaders above 1800mhz and the jumps are much smaller, it's about 3mhz at my current settings.

[Hazaro]

Nahh, core clock stepping is dependant on shader clocks, higher shader clocks give you finer core stepping. At default shader clocks the core steps are huge but set shaders above 1800mhz and the jumps are much smaller, it's about 3mhz at my current settings.

I didn't know they were that fine tuned at those settings...

I need to many things for me to do my volt mod, and the tiny tiny piece scares me :(

[mysterfix]

I did the mod with conductive ink and super glue instead of solder. I couldn't get any pics though as my camera won't get a close enough picture to see what was actually done. It works though and is a lot safer than soldering to those tiny spots.

[Hazaro]

I did the mod with conductive ink and super glue instead of solder. I couldn't get any pics though as my camera won't get a close enough picture to see what was actually done. It works though and is a lot safer than soldering to those tiny spots.

Another success huh, where did you get the ink pen?

[mysterfix]

You can get the cunductive pen and VR from radioshack.

[deathman20]

Lets nudge this back up..

Did a full reinstall of the OS since I needed it. Tried a 06 run this morning really quick and got 250points less then my stop score at the same settings :( Only difference is im running the 169.09 drivers instead of the 169.04 drivers.

[jason4207]

Have you de-fragged?

[deathman20]

Have you de-fragged?

De-fragged brand new OS install? My old system hadn't been defragged in months since I hate the MS defragger and haven't found a new one that I like.

I did notice my CPU score was lower, thats what the difference was. Didn't have alot of time this morning to check it out just ran it quick and ran to work. Surely I have indexing and some other programs I didn't have running before in the background but I also have less items running overall so gotta figure out what it was.

Overall difference in score was ~140 points not the 250 I stated previously. So really overall score didn't change really anything from a new OS install, which I find quiet interesting considering everyone has to reinstall to get that great score all the time it seems and I was running on a 10+ month old install of Vista that use to have an ATI card in it.

[jordon]

i went back to 163's... 169's would make 3dmark not even start , and black screens on a few other games.

[jason4207]

De-fragged brand new OS install?

I've read a good XP tweak guide that recommends doing just that. Not sure if it helps VISTA.

Its become part of my routine when doing a re-install, so I figured I'd suggest it.

I was using an older version of Diskeeper, and I'm using PerfectDisk now. Both are good programs, though.

I tried to run the FEAR benchmark the other night, and kept getting lock-ups w/ red crap all over the screen...even when I put my card back to stock speeds. I'm guessing it's a driver issue, but didn't have time to investigate further.

[inkfx]

Another success huh, where did you get the ink pen?
You can find them at Radio Shack for a few bucks.

Has anyone slapped a waterblock on one of these? I'll probably be ordering one as soon as it comes in stock with Crysis and need to know if mounting has changed. Does the 8800 hardware that comes with the MCW60 work for this? And how many ram sinks do I need.

[Colton H]

Did you do any mods to the card yet cus I haven't seen these cards do great when you reach near the 1000 memory clock oh well. Subscribed :) cant wait for more.

[mysterfix]

You can find them at Radio Shack for a few bucks.

Has anyone slapped a waterblock on one of these? I'll probably be ordering one as soon as it comes in stock with Crysis and need to know if mounting has changed. Does the 8800 hardware that comes with the MCW60 work for this? And how many ram sinks do I need.

They use the same mounts as your X1900 and same amount of ramsinks too.

@ Colton H, My card is volt modded but the ram on these things is junk so no I wouldn't mess with it unless you don't mind going through an RMA.

[Hipcrostino]

uhh, I use a MCW60 on my 8800GT. havn't seen over 40c loaded since i put it there. Also there is a bios volt mod that ups the vcore by all of 0.05. believe it or not, it works. upped my core from 730 max to 780. there is a thread already about it.

[deathman20]

Whew resurrecting this thread of mine. Finally... FINALLY!!! figured out how to do a bootable USB Flash drive to get the flash utilitiy working.

So after all that just running quick tests on her right now so I'll bring up to speed of the tests over the past few months. All run under Vista 64-bit Ulitmate Edition background services/programs are running what I had upon typical bootups.

Run on stock BIOS at 738/1836/999
12581 with my E6400 @ 3.4Ghz http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3778987
13652 with my E8400 @ 4.05Ghz http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4893331

Run on modified BIOS with 1.1V my E8400 @ 4.05Ghz
13731 756/1890/999 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5460780
13922 771.43/1944/999 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5460940
14037 783/1998/999 http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=5461086

Yes my memory on the card can go higher. I know I've had it near 1020 on mem if not mistaken, but 999 seems to be a nice number for running anything. This is with the 169.25 drivers as my past tests have had as well.

And with a nice boost in CPU speed surely I could even see much nicer numbers. Tempatures for card under 3D Mark just under 40C as typical when I've been using the card still with my lovely cooler setup.

[Shiggity]

Welcome to the 14000 3d06 club with a single 8800GT and C2D! :)

You could probably push 15k on windows XP.

[deathman20]

Thx well with some tweaks and shutting off some background stuff surely I could probably get another 200points.

But installing XP back on the system would be a no go due to the nature of my setup and no floppy drive/me messing around with driver integration.

Side note im sure the CPU helped some but running Crysis benchmark that I typically play at I got a nice increase in FPS, up from 37FPS to either 43FPS, min went up from 15 to 24, and max went up 45 to 50. Much needed increase IMO, expecially on the low side. All is well not sure if 783/1998/950 is stable daily but at least I broke 14k finally, and my original goal was 13k so all is good.