View Full Version : HD 3000 series specs leaked
joesaiditstrue
11-05-07, 03:07 PM
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=16657&catid=2
just specs, no benchmarks
HD3870:
55nm
Core 775
Memory 512MB 2.4Ghz GDDR4 (256bit)
Dual Slot Cooler
HD3850:
55nm
Core 668
Memory 256MB 1.6Ghz GDDR3 (256bit)
Single Slot Cooler
twEEkerAreUs
11-05-07, 03:15 PM
Yeah I've heard about the same rumor/spec wise so far, I'd really like to see ATI come back (Along with AMD). Will see how the review goes on the HD3870, if I was going to get one it would have to be that.
Agallion
11-05-07, 03:18 PM
its what like...8 days? till the official release? I believe i heard nov 12 was the launch.
Dan0512
11-05-07, 03:22 PM
I wouldn't put a lot expectations performance wise on these cards, according to the Inq., they're not going to be faster than the new 8800GT.
The price is going to decide the fate of these new cards.
dan
Stanman16
11-05-07, 03:24 PM
I'll admit I haven't been following ATI's recent graphics cards architecture, but have the ATI cards always had triple the amount of stream processors? I guess I don't even really know what those do, but I thought the number of stream processors is what made the G92 so much better than the G80 line and that was only a jump from like 96 to 112.
Neural Net
11-05-07, 03:39 PM
I wouldn't put a lot expectations performance wise on these cards, according to the Inq., they're not going to be faster than the new 8800GT.
The price is going to decide the fate of these new cards.
dan
The Inq isn't the greatest source to rely on.
Anyway, all bets are off - people are being especially cautious about the performance potential of these cards as the X2900 was proclaimed as the 8800GTX killer, which it obviously didn't turn out to be (despite having superior paper specs).
Rumour has it, that the new ATi cards now do not suffer from the bugs currently killing 2900 performance, that the core would be reworked in conjunction with a die shrink... If this is true, at the very least it should mean that the 3000 series won't take a massive hit when AA is involved in the benchmarking as the 2900 suffers now.
It is best however to remain pessimistic. Naming it as a next generation GPU (aka 3000 series) instead of the 2950, (which I thought it was going to be named lol) suggests that there is a noticeable performance leap, or the prices are very low. Or it could just be a clever marketing ploy on AMD's part to disassociate itself from the lower than expected performance of the 2900.
/End rant.
They better come out with a winner. Not only for MY benefit but for AMD's benefit as well.
this may amd/atis last chance with me, seriosuly... if this is the second tiem around and nothing worht buy, they can kiss my ass and scratch me off their list.
deathman20
11-05-07, 04:34 PM
The reason why they are calling it the 3000 series is a marketing ploy. At least thats whats been said recently. Bigger numbers means more will buy type deal. Its a joke.
As for the core benifits from it, bug fixes from AA, has the UVD on it now that works, as well lower power consumption.
Downside, its going to be basically the same as the 2900 thats out there today sadly :( Maybe clock faster but if ATI isn't releasing higher clocks then oh 35Mhz on the core then the current cards theres some issues or they are hidding, or just getting poor yields on the 55nm process and will start selling these cards til they can profect it and release an even faster one down the road.
Neural Net
11-05-07, 04:37 PM
The reason why they are calling it the 3000 series is a marketing ploy. At least thats whats been said recently. Bigger numbers means more will buy type deal. Its a joke.
As for the core benifits from it, bug fixes from AA, has the UVD on it now that works, as well lower power consumption.
Downside, its going to be basically the same as the 2900 thats out there today sadly :( Maybe clock faster but if ATI isn't releasing higher clocks then oh 35Mhz on the core then the current cards theres some issues or they are hidding, or just getting poor yields on the 55nm process and will start selling these cards til they can profect it and release an even faster one down the road.
Interesting. They're supposed to be DX10.1 compliant as well aren't they?
deathman20
11-05-07, 04:57 PM
Interesting. They're supposed to be DX10.1 compliant as well aren't they?
Yes
Neural Net
11-05-07, 05:13 PM
Yes
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my understanding, Direct x10.1 not only adds some new features, but is also more efficient at the hardware level for rendering regular direct x10 as well, resulting in higher performance... So the 3000 series could have slightly better DX10 performance than the x2900 as a result?
I really hope they get this right. I want to believe. Give me an hd3870 oc'd to1300mhz while still using less power than an hd2900xt and make sure all the kinks are worked out. Then faith will be restored.
I really hope they get this right. I want to believe. Give me an hd3870 oc'd to1300mhz while still using less power than an hd2900xt and make sure all the kinks are worked out. Then faith will be restored.
From what I read around the net the 3800 should handily beat the 2900 & GTS series (currently in circulation). Is it true, who knows but this is the only tid bit of performance information I've found searching the net. What's interesting is that there are "indicators" suggesting that we wait for the R680. Something should surface by December (winter starts in Dec right?).
White_Pawn
11-05-07, 09:43 PM
From what I read around the net the 3800 should handily beat the 2900 & GTS series (currently in circulation). Is it true, who knows but this is the only tid bit of performance information I've found searching the net. What's interesting is that there are "indicators" suggesting that we wait for the R680. Something should surface by December (winter starts in Dec right?).
they said that about the R600 too. Apparently the 8800GTX killed it. Anyway winter starts December 20/21/22.
johnny*
11-05-07, 11:22 PM
At this point, I'm just hoping they'll be performance competitive at whatever price point they set to drive the prices down on the 8800GT..... *crosses fingers*
I just want a Direct X 10.1 card. I know for a fact if I get an 8800 I'm going t oget screwed because the first game that requires 10.1 or looks much better with 10.1 will be the only one I want.
I get back to the US in Feb. With any luck these will be out by then, my x1800 is getting very, very slow =(
From what I read around the net the 3800 should handily beat the 2900 & GTS series (currently in circulation). Is it true, who knows but this is the only tid bit of performance information I've found searching the net. What's interesting is that there are "indicators" suggesting that we wait for the R680. Something should surface by December (winter starts in Dec right?).
Well here is some more information about it.
Link (http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7026.html)
Reports regarding the so called R680 have been appearing here and there on the web. No one is completely certain what this "chip" is suppose to be, but the most frequently occurring guess is that R680 is not the name of an actual GPU, but a card sporting two RV670 circuits side by side on one PCB. The codename has appeared on a number of leaked slides by now, but we're still not certain when the chip is suppose to arrive. From what we've heard, the development of the two-chip card is coming along nicely, and an optimistic source says that the card could even be launched before the end of the year. Even though the source was optimistic about it, we're certainly not promising anything.
Oh god no......please, not MAXX...not again.
I cant have my heart broken twice by the same company
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