non conductive liquid?

[Elluzion]

is the non conductive liquid additive worth it? or is it just a waste?? Will it really protect your computer components if their is a leak. How does this work..

Thanks for the info..

[BobcatDan]

Well, ALL liquids become conductive once electrolytes are introduced, like dust, what are most of your comp components covered in... Actually, some people have claimed their comps have been saved by non-conductive fluid. Then again, quality distilled water is non-conductive.
Dan

[yellowhello]

I vote for distilled water. Other commercial fluids not really worth it ($30?! Jesus Christ...)

IMO.

[Moto7451]

Hehe, yes you have the correct idea BobcatDan but dust is not considered an electrolyte :D.

In our cases, any aqueous concoction (Re: anything with water i.e. MCT5, Fluid XP, etc all of them...) will pick up ions from the metals in our loop and become conductive.

Stick with distilled water + additives.

[Elluzion]

what kind of additives are reccomended? My tubing is black uv blocking tygon....

[yellowhello]

what kind of additives are reccomended? My tubing is black uv blocking tygon....
PT-Nuke, Swiftech Hydrx, Pentosin, they're all great...:beer:

[BobcatDan]

Hehe, yes you have the correct idea BobcatDan but dust is not considered an electrolyte :D.

In our cases, any aqueous concoction (Re: anything with water i.e. MCT5, Fluid XP, etc all of them...) will pick up ions from the metals in our loop and become conductive.

Stick with distilled water + additives.

What he said, but to start an internet argument (since I've had a bit to drink:beer: ). Like you said the idea is that ions are collected in the fluid, acting as charge carriers decreasing the resistivity of the fluid to the point where components get shorted. Dust has a lot of different things in it, a fair amount of which may be or become ionized, though the metal in the loop certainly helps a lot given enough time in the loop.
Dan

[aja]

Is there any merit to adding additives?

Could you just use distilled water? (okay of course putting something in for algae. But is the other stuff really needed?)

[BobcatDan]

Yeah, there are things like water wetter that reduce the surface tension (allowing more water to touch the block) and have lubricants and anti-oxidizing agents. Those are worth while along with anti-bio agents.
Dan

[Elluzion]

Is there any merit to adding additives?

Could you just use distilled water? (okay of course putting something in for algae. But is the other stuff really needed?)

well I don't need an algae additive because light can't penetrate my tubing.... so nothing will grow.

[yellowhello]

well I don't need an algae additive because light can't penetrate my tubing.... so nothing will grow.
Do you have a reservoir? Light could get in there... additives are just an added safety precaution, and I would use some if I were you.

[Elluzion]

^yeah thats true, I will have a reservoir, but I might just go with a t-line because its cheaper.

[Elluzion]

Hows this stuff?

http://jab-tech.com/MCT-5-Non-Conductive-Fluid-pr-3016.html

http://jab-tech.com/Pentosin-G12-Long-life-Coolant-Red-Pink-pr-3759.html

http://www.petrastechshop.com/pepcobi1.html

http://www.petrastechshop.com/swhyexduco.html

which out of the 4 would be best (color and all that crap doesn't matter)

[yellowhello]

Hydrx FTW! The G12 is actually pink, not red. The PT-Nuke stuff is great if you don't need coler in your loop. And the MCT-5 is a waste of money in my book.

[ancalime]

Yuck no Hydrx please! Last time I used Hydrx it left gunk all over my pump. Ever since than, I used Pentosin over Hydrx. You can mix Pentosin with distilled water in a 1:9 ratio and put in a drop or two of PT-Nuke. Works great. :beer:

[yellowhello]

Yuck no Hydrx please! Last time I used Hydrx it left gunk all over my pump. Ever since than, I used Pentosin over Hydrx. You can mix Pentosin with distilled water in a 1:9 ratio and put in a drop or two of PT-Nuke. Works great. :beer:
I've used Hydrx for the last build that I did, and no gunk here...:shrug:

[Elluzion]

could I just use PT Nuke?? or should I use Hydrx or pentosin with it?

[Springbok]

I've used PC Ice after my CPU block had a leak or two, it's saved my graphics card from getting toasted on more than one occasion. I figured out the problem so my system doesn't leak any more...I was using an aftermarket holding bracket to secure it to the CPU, and since it wasn't the same height as the original it was causing the block to leak around the middle. It's not a bad investment if you're having trouble like I was, but for all my previous builds I just used distilled water and anti-algae additives.

[SolidxSnake]

I'd just use some biocide (PT Nuke, algaecide from a pet shop, etc) and plain distilled water if you have an all copper/brass/delrin loop.

Ideally, you'd ONLY use distilled water. I don't know about Water Wetter, but generally all additives are not ideal as they lower the thermal capacity or conductivity (I forget exactly which at the moment) of plain distilled water. Essentially, the more you put in the water, the less effective the coolant is. Again, I know Water Wetter reduces surface tension, but I don't know of any other effects it may have on the cooler.

Personally, I use 5% Pentosin (it hardly colors the water pink, it's barely noticeable). I haven't had any algae or growth problems without any biocide, but I still will use some in my next loop.

And skip out on any UV additives unless you really want them. I loved the look of my UV tubes, but the dye I used completely stained the tubing within hours. Which I guess helps to block out light, but doesn't let you look at anything that may or may not be in your loop.

[Elluzion]

^Yeah I think i'll just use some distilled water and PT Nuke. My tubes are black so I wont be able to see any color inside anyways. ... Thanks guys

[Tekko]

Algae might not be too much of a problem with black tubing but you can still get other kind of seamonkeys in there. And since you will not be able to see any growth before it affects it has some affects on your loop better be safe then sorry.

[Elluzion]

yeah your right. I will use Pt Nuke