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I have had bioshock for over a month now and I just chose to install it today. Anyway, once I got into the game and I was having a somewhat decent time I ran into a huge mouse problem. I had to set the sensativity all the way down to 1 (which still feels like 5 or 6 in a Half life or Half life 2 based engine game, too fast) and it feels like I have really bad mouse acceleration/smoothing. I can move the mouse slow and it barely goes anywhere or flick my wrist for a quick kill and end up spinning a few times.
I would consider myself an advid PC gamer (over 15,000 hours in FPS games alone over my life time) and this bothers me a LOT. I tried to get used to it but when I was hacking a sentry gun I couldn't hardly move the mouse at all to do a damn thing, it was sluggish and retarded. How can I remove the mosue acceleration in this game and have normal mouse movement like every other FPS?
Thanks.
Wolverine690
11-14-07, 06:34 AM
What kind of mouse you got? I didn't have any issues with mine & Bioshock, I'm using a MS Laser Mouse 6000.
Have you turned down the settings in windows/mouse software as well as the game?
I can't recall off hand but was there a mouse option for hardware/software in the game menu maybe try that out? Also might try another mouse to see if you have same issue?
Alien1099
11-14-07, 09:46 AM
The mouse speed seems unusually fast to me too. I fired it up again the other day and had to set the mouse speed to 3 to get it to be tolerable to me. I think I play with the mouse set to 8 in half-life 2 so that's my comparison.
I have a razer copperhead mouse (2000dpi), the mouse acceleration is disabled within windows and every game feels normal EXCEPT bioshock. The mouse literally moves at a snails pace when I am trying to hack or when I'm on the menu, then when I'm in game it moves between too fast and too slow. Vsync is disabled and I'm on Vista in DX10.
grunjee
11-14-07, 07:20 PM
Hit up the 2k forums. There is a huge thread of people complaining about this issue. I read through several pages of it a few weeks back. There are some config file hacks that have worked for some. I'd dig it up and link to the thread but I'm feeling lazy right now.
Grande Juan
11-14-07, 08:27 PM
/\ exactly /\ I actually quit playing bioshock in hopes that a soon to be released patch would fix it. Has it happened yet?
Wayward_Son
11-14-07, 08:49 PM
You've played 15,000 hours of FPS games in your lifetime? That's excluding all other games of any variety and any type of non-FPS computer use?
If you break that down into 5-hour chunks of gameplay per day, that's 3000 days with each day consisting of five straight hours of FPS play. That's just over eight years with five hours each day of just FPS play.
I don't mean to threadjack, but either you're REALLY exaggerating or you're REALLY lonely. :beer:
FWIW: I play HL2 with my mouse sensitivity set on 16.5. I like a fast mouse. My gripes with Bioshock come not with the mouse but just the movement control of the 3d engine in general. I like games like the Quake series, the HL series (and Counterstrike), and the UT series because the keyboard inputs for movement (forward/backward/left/right/crouch/jump [although I use my right mouse button for jump... I'm an oddball]) are very crisp and clean. The Bioshock engine lacks this crispness. You feel very clumsy in the world because it seems like such a rubbery delay exists between the time you push a key until the time when your character in the 3D realm actually moves accordingly. It's as if you're controlling your character through a series of 20-foot long pieces of firm rubber or something. I have the same exact complaints about the original Deus Ex and System Shock 2, both which could have been completely badass games if only the 3d controls were as crisp as a dedicated FPS.
The jumping in Bioshock is particularly bad.
There's a registry patch for xp that disables mouse acceleration, almost everyone in cs uses it, it's called the "cpl mouse fix" http://www.fpsbanana.com/tools/717
I tried finding a similar patch for vista and came up with this http://razerblueprints.net/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=99&topic=5882.0
I haven't tried it though, as I'm back on xp at the moment.
You've played 15,000 hours of FPS games in your lifetime? That's excluding all other games of any variety and any type of non-FPS computer use?
If you break that down into 5-hour chunks of gameplay per day, that's 3000 days with each day consisting of five straight hours of FPS play. That's just over eight years with five hours each day of just FPS play.
I don't mean to threadjack, but either you're REALLY exaggerating or you're REALLY lonely. :beer:
This is about right, though it's over about 9 years ranging anywhere from a couple hours to 15+ per day depending on if I'm working or have plans. ;) It excludes all other genres that I also play (I have about 4,000 in Guild Wars. ;))
(quake1,2,3,4,rtcw,hl,hlbs,hlof,hldm,cs,css,hl2,hl 2e1,hl2e2,hl2 mods,dod,dods,timeshift,coj,bf1942,bf2,sof2,doom1, 2,3,dnukem,cod1,2,4,moh,mohaa,ut,ut2k3,ut2k4,ut3,u nreal2,unreal3,heretic,portal,tfc,tf2,tff) I can't name every game I've been addicted to over the years, but those are some that I can remember. More than 50% of the hours came from competitive counter-strike.
It was just to show that I play a LOT of FPS games and this is the ONLY game that I have problems in. I have tried the .ini tweak mentioned on the 2kgames forums but it didn't do anything for me.
Karbon, thanks but I do already have all Windows based acceleration disabled. ;)
rainless
11-14-07, 10:56 PM
Dunno. Never had any trouble with my mouse and Bioshock. Worked just fine. Walked straight through the game. Gunned down a bunch of splicers. Just another day at the office.
...then again I don't have 15,000 total hours in the 15 years I've been playing FPSes. :)
Alien1099
11-15-07, 09:43 AM
Dunno. Never had any trouble with my mouse and Bioshock. Worked just fine. Walked straight through the game. Gunned down a bunch of splicers. Just another day at the office.
...then again I don't have 15,000 total hours in the 15 years I've been playing FPSes. :)
NEWB!:rolleyes:
I laugh at your inexperience!
Me... I'm pushin probably 300,000 logged hours, but hey! People need killin'. Somebody's gotta do it! Somebody's gotta save those hostages, capture those flags, and gun down those screaming on their mic 12 year olds.
Such lies, that's 34 YEARS of playtime without a break or sleep. Video games haven't even been around that long. Say you played 12 hours a day instead, that claim puts you at playing them for 68 years. ;)
Alien1099
11-16-07, 01:35 AM
Such lies, that's 34 YEARS of playtime without a break or sleep. Video games haven't even been around that long. Say you played 12 hours a day instead, that claim puts you at playing them for 68 years. ;)
Dude my first FPS game was played on a UNIVAC man. I was playing breakout back in the day on a very complex abacus. You doubt me?!:eek:
rainless
11-16-07, 08:23 AM
Dude my first FPS game was played on a UNIVAC man. I was playing breakout back in the day on a very complex abacus. You doubt me?!:eek:
I like this guy... :beer:
Metallica
11-16-07, 11:14 PM
NEWB!:rolleyes:
I laugh at your inexperience!
Me... I'm pushin probably 300,000 logged hours, but hey! People need killin'. Somebody's gotta do it! Somebody's gotta save those hostages, capture those flags, and gun down those screaming on their mic 12 year olds.
Such lies, that's 34 YEARS of playtime without a break or sleep. Video games haven't even been around that long. Say you played 12 hours a day instead, that claim puts you at playing them for 68 years. ;)
You do see the sarcasm in his post don't you =/
Greetings!
PC patch is out:
http://www.2kgames.com/bioshock/support/
Conflicting reports about the mouse fix:
http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?p=246012#post246012
(forum is opening slow)
Yes, a patch!
Fixed mouse acceleration issues
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