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jbell
12-22-01, 01:11 PM
This in my newspaper today..... I will post more info once I find it!


http://azcentral.com/news/articles/breaking/1222hackers22.html


Joe

kd7aze
12-22-01, 02:25 PM
Yeah, it's legit, and Microsloth has an official fix. Just run the windows update in XP, and it'll download it for you.

Kid

el
12-24-01, 11:08 AM
i did the dl cuz it was only 600kb! the update was 2.3mb????

kd7aze
12-24-01, 12:45 PM
To be perfectly honest, I'd be willing to sit through a 50MB download on a 14 K to fix this Microsloth hole.

Kid

:beer:

jbell
12-24-01, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by kd7aze
To be perfectly honest, I'd be willing to sit through a 50MB download on a 14 K to fix this Microsloth hole.

Kid

:beer:


just talked to a software tech - he tells me it effects the entire 9X family - so 95, 98, 98se, and ME are effected as well!

Do your updates kids!!! I did mine

Oni
12-25-01, 11:37 AM
Its times like this I love Windows 2000.

Yodums
12-25-01, 12:27 PM
It doesn't affect the other Windows just Windows XP unless your using the ICS Program from Windows XP.

I love Windows 2000 too.

jbell
12-25-01, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Oni
Its times like this I love Windows 2000.


Hey what about Linux! its even better becuase it isn't by Microshaft!

jw50
12-26-01, 11:43 AM
Actually it only affects people that have Universal PnP active but it still doesn't hurt to do the update, and the update is only 600K, el didn't realize that the 2.3M was two updates (the UPnP update and the IE update).

Wa11y
12-26-01, 01:23 PM
What I want to know is why no legal action is being taken on this? By providing a way into computers, couldn't M$ be considered an accomplice or at least an accessory to hacking, and be fined for punished for it somehow?

jbell
12-26-01, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by Wa11y
What I want to know is why no legal action is being taken on this? By providing a way into computers, couldn't M$ be considered an accomplice or at least an accessory to hacking, and be fined for punished for it somehow?


can't sue for stupidity!

Oni
12-27-01, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by jbell
can't sue for stupidity!

Unfortunate, that.

Luie
12-28-01, 03:02 AM
can't sue for stupidity!
Unfortunate, that.


lol


and, omg you only have to connect to the web and a hacker can take total control of you pc if you have xp(not updated).:eek:
I better d/l the patch now! hehe

Mac3
12-29-01, 03:00 PM
*runs around in circles* what do I do, what do I do!


That is scary, I guess I better get it too. Where can I find this?

jbell
12-29-01, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by luie


lol


and, omg you only have to connect to the web and a hacker can take total control of you pc if you have xp(not updated).:eek:
I better d/l the patch now! hehe

IMAC has the same issue - kinda - if you have web folders enabled - anyone online can ''see'' your hard drive and scan it as if it were a web page!

Billvill
12-29-01, 07:34 PM
Official win xp fix ,

delete win XP install win 98

just my 2 cents / Billy

Luie
12-29-01, 08:53 PM
I am making my pc dual booting with win 98 and xp.

Mac3
12-29-01, 09:54 PM
Bah, I am starting to hate XP. Two days of owning a new computer and XP crashed hardcore on me, I had to wipe it out and reinstall everything...Man that is weak.

PsycoPhreak
12-31-01, 03:16 AM
It really makes you wonder, with all of Microslops programmers and experts, you'd think they would find all the security holes and glitches and so forth, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these so called "bugs" aren't placed there on purpose by Microslop themselves as a way to possibly gather user data without being nailed by the federal government for privacy violations. The way i see it, microslop has done some seriously devious things in the past ranging from stealing employee's and coding from other OS manufacturer's to programming their browsers to read that damn serial number Intel so conveniently added to the P III's ( Another bright idea...:rolleyes: Yeah right! we all know the privacy and tracking issues with that, if not..here is a link...heh heh www.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumiii/psu.htm ) Anyway, I wouldn't put it past Microslop to "overlook" some minor "bugs" untill someone else finds them, so this way they can claim it was an error in programming, meanwhile, exploiting these "back doors" to their advantage the whole time and then getting away with it when someone finds one. It amazes me how many security flaws are found, but hardware support, and third party software support usually are taken care of before they release any "new" versions of their crap...go figure. I think they should start penalizing them, seeing that microslop is consistent with the security issues, but inconsistent with finding them on their own.

Its a point to ponder...:cool:

jbell
01-07-02, 02:37 AM
ok guys I found this ..... A MUST READ!!! (http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/downloadoftheday/story/0,2)

takiwa
01-07-02, 09:33 AM
well, if ya can't sue 'em, slander 'em to death...seems like that is the new government policy against MSFT...this "hole" has been present in any Windows OS with Plug n Play enabled...I don't remember hearing about it with 95, 98, and Me, though...I guess the DOJ thought they could win their monopoly suit, so they didn't have to send the working world into a panic over this back then. Have any of you ever been hacked? I don't think hackers find any sense of pride in hacking into a personal computer owned by someone dumb enough not to have the proper security in place to begin with...if they were that much in the dark, what could you possibly find on their computer worth hacking into in the first place? And as far as all the "I love 2000" comments, you are just as susceptable to this as anyone else on a Windows OS...unless you d/l 200+Mbs of service packs...jeez, that's a whole new OS! Everyone calm down...if you applied as much sense to this issue as you do to overclocking, you would fare much better...

JzAr
01-08-02, 04:10 AM
LOL...let em have it takiwa:D

takiwa
01-08-02, 06:51 AM
it just ticks me off sometimes how people can talk down about something, and scare everyone half to death over an issue that should be small to say the least...but not if the big, bad, FBI is involved...just to degrade a company. this whole security issue is more about screwing w/ MSFT than it is about a 5 year old security flaw.

CoryKer
01-08-02, 09:06 AM
Originally posted by jbell


IMAC has the same issue - kinda - if you have web folders enabled - anyone online can ''see'' your hard drive and scan it as if it were a web page!

Not just the iMac model - keep in the mind the Mac OS has been around since 84, 14 years before the introduction of the iMac. Web sharing is a useful function of the Mac OS. You can specify a web folder that contains files others can access by using a password and login specified by the user. This is neither turned on by default, or does it allow a remote user to scan the entire hard drive unless the computer owner decides they want to do this - and even then it requires a L/P.

[[ because I acccidently wrote 12 instead of 14]]

Mi6
01-08-02, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by takiwa
well, if ya can't sue 'em, slander 'em to death...seems like that is the new government policy against MSFT...this "hole" has been present in any Windows OS with Plug n Play enabled...I don't remember hearing about it with 95, 98, and Me, though...I guess the DOJ thought they could win their monopoly suit, so they didn't have to send the working world into a panic over this back then. Have any of you ever been hacked? I don't think hackers find any sense of pride in hacking into a personal computer owned by someone dumb enough not to have the proper security in place to begin with...if they were that much in the dark, what could you possibly find on their computer worth hacking into in the first place? And as far as all the "I love 2000" comments, you are just as susceptable to this as anyone else on a Windows OS...unless you d/l 200+Mbs of service packs...jeez, that's a whole new OS! Everyone calm down...if you applied as much sense to this issue as you do to overclocking, you would fare much better...


hmm...so i should not dl the 200+mb of service packz? lol
and if i did :rolleyes: is that soooo bad ?

takiwa
01-08-02, 02:35 PM
hmm...so i should not dl the 200+mb of service packz? lol and if i did is that soooo bad ?

Mi6, i made that statement because the thread discussion was that WinXP users had to download a patch for the system..."service packs" are patches for various problems, security faults, and incompatibilty problems that Win2K had...but no one seems to have a problem downloading them, even as big as they are (almost half the size of the OS, all in total). This seems funny to me, that when they want to down an OS, people seem to "forget" the faults of the system they are running...so I pointed that out to even the arguement...:D

takiwa
01-08-02, 02:48 PM
I almost forgot...my point is this. Windows XP is a better, more stable OS than Win2K, and was designed to take it's place. To compare the two, you must compare them fairly, and the only way to do that is to compare XP to Win2K when it was FIRST released, W/O the service packs (none have been released for XP yet...if it will even need them...). Without the service packs installed, straight off the disc, XP is better, hands down. There isn't a 2K user on this forum that would run it w/o the packs... Both OS's have the perpetual MSFT security flaws..if you use Windows, you should be used to this by now. All I'm saying is to take what the media (when it's concerning MSFT) tells you with a grain of salt...common sense, really :p

Mi6
01-08-02, 09:15 PM
oh i see...but in my case it was just a cheap joke i tried to pull becoes i was not sure how to respond to it all :p

wel im off with my cheap jokes :burn:

LOL

Dumb
M|6

takiwa
01-08-02, 11:25 PM
my response was not against you personally, m|6...just stating my thoughts about what has been written as a whole through out this thread and others. I don't bash or flame...to do so retards the process of learning, and that's what we're all here for...to learn :)

Mi6
01-09-02, 09:18 AM
ooh no i did not think you were flaming me... it was just a dumb joke that im not even sure i got =) dont worry i not saying you flamed me im allways a HAPPY CAMPER! :p

Caffinehog
02-01-02, 08:09 PM
Can't sue for stupidity? True, but you can pour a cup of coffee on your crotch and sue McDonalds because they didn't warn you it was hot!

Kingslayer
02-01-02, 10:44 PM
It's quite simple. The only secure computer is an unplugged computer. I dont care what OS you run, there are security holes. Nobody seems to put up the Linux security holes....Check out www.littlewhitedog.com they are pretty good at putting up security fixes for Linux. And the neat thing is is that there are more holes per month for Linux than there is for anything MSFT makes.

Caffinehog
02-02-02, 12:25 AM
Maybe cuz the millions of people out there who know how to use linux also know how it works and how to find problems with it, and the windows user don't know and microsoft posts nothing?

jbell
02-02-02, 02:50 AM
Originally posted by Kingslayer
It's quite simple. The only secure computer is an unplugged computer.


you mean how NORAD operates???


I totally agree - EVERYTHING is hackable!!!!