View Full Version : MSI GeForce 8800GT 512MB - $208 [DEAD DEAL]
Sederien
11-24-07, 03:23 PM
Deal is here (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1348853&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643).
I doubt this one will last.
(I'm waiting for the new GTS model and this one is seriously tempting me!)
toddm27
11-24-07, 03:25 PM
dang nice deal, too bad it shows a 1-2 week lead time :(
I would pick this up but I'm kind of scared of that MSI name.
this is exactly what would give me a reason to go SLI, which I never have... but... already got a GTX that i spent so much time getting an EK block on and putting into my loop nice and neat.
well I wouldnt buy an msi mobo but the gfx cards are all the same as far as 8800's go
if I hadnt grabbed these eVGA's for 460 I would hop on those for $416 in a heartbeat
toddm27
11-24-07, 03:36 PM
I'm tempted to grab one and sell my xfx, lol
I'm tempted to grab one and sell my xfx, lol
why doesnt this surprise me lol
well I wouldnt buy an msi mobo but the gfx cards are all the same as far as 8800's go
if I hadnt grabbed these eVGA's for 460 I would hop on those for $416 in a heartbeat
If that's the case. I'm gonna get one.
Since it says 1-2 weeks for shipping, would I be able to order it now, and if a better deal comes around within the next week, cancel this as long as it hasn't shipped yet?
UnrealAlex
11-24-07, 03:44 PM
Wow, I want to order 2 lol :( and sell my evga once it comes...that would give me 2x 8800 GTs for only like $200
toddm27
11-24-07, 03:46 PM
why doesnt this surprise me lol
lol, well I couldn't resist, another on the way :D
Msi is as good as any other brand IMO
But here lately I've liked evga alot's :D
plus this may give you an idea of what prices we may get across the board soon lol
I used MSI 8800 Ultra, good cards. Has a 2 year warantee also that can be transferred among users because they don't require an invoice (the week code is within the serial number and that's how they judge the warantee period).
If you don't mind waiting 2-6 weeks in getting one, this deal is pretty f'in good.
ordered one, if a better deal arises within the next 2 weeks, this will be cancelled
Mortis03
11-24-07, 04:18 PM
So wait, are these in stock and shipping in a day or two, or are they backordered?
EDIT: I'm an idiot... I see it now, 1-2 weeks still shipping, hehe.
toddm27
11-24-07, 04:19 PM
as it says ships in 1-2 weeks, but that isn't always right
MadMan007
11-24-07, 04:41 PM
How much did it come to with S&H and tax? I'd guess around $225 which is good compared to the jacked up 8800GT prices but still :shrug: as expected once prices settle down.
toddm27
11-24-07, 04:44 PM
How much did it come to with S&H and tax? I'd guess around $225 which is good compared to the jacked up 8800GT prices but still :shrug: as expected once prices settle down.
227, free shipping, high taxes in tennessee :(
Mortis03
11-24-07, 05:04 PM
as it says ships in 1-2 weeks, but that isn't always right
isn't right as in ships sooner, or ships later.
toddm27
11-24-07, 05:12 PM
isn't right as in ships sooner, or ships later.
I've seen them ship stuff listed like that next day, but you never know :shrug:
I'm not afraid of MSI in general, but I've got burned bad by them on a motherboard. The motherboard was relatively new (about a year), but I guess it had sat on a shelf somewhere, so they said the warranty was expired.
I also got burned bad on a Chaintech card which was defective, sent back, replaced, and then went defective again. It was past the 1 yr mark, so I was out a card.
So I pretty much have decided that I will only buy BFG and XFX cards, since they have a true lifetime warranty (PNY's lifetime warranty is bull****, it's legally described as the life of the product in the market... which could be 3 months at the rate video cards turn over).
I have an eVGA card (5900) that I bought probably 4-5 yrs ago. It still works perfectly. I have another eVGA card (mx4000) that also runs perfectly. I think eVGA has very good quality control, but they don't offer the lifetime warranty last I checked (it was a 1 yr + 1 yr if you registered deal).
I just don't want to get left holding the bag on an expensive purchase turned paperweight.
Anyone know exactly what the warranty is on this? Is it through MSI or through Dell?
leftheaded
11-24-07, 06:25 PM
this is tempting. my hesitation is the warranty...
I'm not afraid of MSI in general, but I've got burned bad by them on a motherboard. The motherboard was relatively new (about a year), but I guess it had sat on a shelf somewhere, so they said the warranty was expired.
I also got burned bad on a Chaintech card which was defective, sent back, replaced, and then went defective again. It was past the 1 yr mark, so I was out a card.
So I pretty much have decided that I will only buy BFG and XFX cards, since they have a true lifetime warranty (PNY's lifetime warranty is bull****, it's legally described as the life of the product in the market... which could be 3 months at the rate video cards turn over).
I have an eVGA card (5900) that I bought probably 4-5 yrs ago. It still works perfectly. I have another eVGA card (mx4000) that also runs perfectly. I think eVGA has very good quality control, but they don't offer the lifetime warranty last I checked (it was a 1 yr + 1 yr if you registered deal).
I just don't want to get left holding the bag on an expensive purchase turned paperweight.
Anyone know exactly what the warranty is on this? Is it through MSI or through Dell?
evga is lifetime or 3 years non registered
I actually decided to jump on it after 45 minutes of deliberating.
In for one MSI 8800GT for $221.51 (FL sales tax with free 3-5 shipping) shipped to my house.
Estimated Ship Date: 12/10/2007
Like others mentioned above, will cancel if better deal comes up before shipped.
Also, this may be of help to those concerned about PCI-E 2.0 (in case you didn't already know):
The transition to PCIe 2.0 won't be anything like the move from AGP to PCIe. The cards and motherboards are backwards and forwards compatible. PCIe 1.0 and 1.1 compliant cards can be plugged into a PCIe 2.0 motherboard, and PCIe 2.0 cards can be plugged into older motherboards.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=4
My only concern is I have a 600W Power Supply and am planning to put this 8800GT with the rig listed in my sig. If it over bears the system with its power draw, I may wind up having to build an entirely new rig for it. I know the processor is dated, maybe this is the first step towards subconsciously forcing myself to spend yet more money on computers :D
twEEkerAreUs
11-24-07, 07:46 PM
My only concern is I have a 600W Power Supply and am planning to put this 8800GT with the rig listed in my sig. If it over bears the system with its power draw, I may wind up having to build an entirely new rig for it. I know the processor is dated, maybe this is the first step towards subconsciously forcing myself to spend yet more money on computers :D
It won't unless you have a ton of HDD's like 10+ (Which isn't listed in your sig)
Eeh I already ordered that galaxy deal for a few bucks more hmmmm should I grab another lmao. Also what is the deal with the long waiting time, Mid Dec ouch...
Nathan0490
11-24-07, 08:04 PM
Sub-total $201.75
Shipping & Handling $4.99
Shipping & Handling Discount -$4.99
Tax $14.93
Total Price $216.68
Hmm tempting...
It won't unless you have a ton of HDD's like 10+ (Which isn't listed in your sig)
Thanks for the feedback...
I have 2x250 Seagates mirroring one another
1x160GB Seagate
and 1x120 GB Seagate
So a little less than half that...Although I can live without the 120 GB drive
Also - Yojo doing your holiday shopping for you :D
XFX8800GT is also offered at dell for $234:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1350995&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643#Overview
I just saw this on slickdeals and went ahead with the MSI for $227 to TN. I have been looking now for 2-3 weeks and haven't found a thing besides this. This is at least a decent price on this card, not the inflated prices everyone else is charging. I thought about getting the XFX instead (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1350995&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643), but it would be $30 more than the MSI to me due to the tax and I just don't think it is worth the price difference.
I also figure I can cancel if by chance a better deal comes up.
great deal, I decided to order one, going to keep my eyes out for better deals aswell.
once it gets here I will be able to unload my 7900GTO, what do you think I will get for it?
EternalX
11-24-07, 08:43 PM
I also ordered one as well! Looking foward to it! I have had good luck with MSI, I bought a X1800pro that was flashable to X1800XT, runs great!! Hopefully it wont take 2 weeks to get here though!
Elluzion
11-24-07, 09:01 PM
wow I gotta put these 2 in sli!!!! OMGGG
whats a good mobo that will support 45nm and SLI
toddm27
11-24-07, 09:02 PM
wow I gotta put these 2 in sli!!!! OMGGG
whats a good mobo that will support 45nm and SLI
unfortunatly there are none :( at least that will do 45nm quads and sli
stereo555
11-24-07, 09:04 PM
Damn these deals come at the worst time .... but I grabbed one too :p .
This one is selling at the Egg for $300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127311 :eek:
Btw , whats the warranty on these ? (2yrs)
toddm27
11-24-07, 09:10 PM
Btw , whats the warranty on these ? (2yrs)
3 years
Elluzion
11-24-07, 09:25 PM
well then what is a good board for SLI of 8800gt and a Q6600
WonderingSoul
11-24-07, 10:43 PM
Just bought mine. Bought it on a whim. Was wanting a 3870, but this price is rediculous.
ancalime
11-24-07, 10:55 PM
Anything for canada??
NCIX has an 8800GT for $249.
well then what is a good board for SLI of 8800gt and a Q6600
EVGA 680i A1 ;)
knight_of_knee
11-24-07, 11:02 PM
Hmm I think I'm gonna have to get this, and it will complete my upgrades until the new quads come out in January and then I'll have to be all set for computer parts for the next year or two. Until the next upgrade phase comes lol.
Hmm I think I'm gonna have to get this, and it will complete my upgrades until the new quads come out in January and then I'll have to be all set for computer parts for the next year or two. Until the next upgrade phase comes lol.
You mean in January, with x48's, the next gen higher end ATI cards, and supposed 9800 release? ;)
Thanks Sederien. Wicked sick deal--considering how everyone else is gouging us on this.
Overview
The NX8800GT-T2D512E-OC ultimate graphic card provides extreme performance ideal for gaming. The graphic card provides special gaming and overclocking features; 65nm technology with low temperature, easy overclocking, high bandwidth, PCI-E generation 2.0 support, raised number of stream processors, overclocked version, SLI support and a special game bundle with not one but two games! MSI offers all this for a surprisingly reasonable price tag. With all the new features, the MSI NX8800GT-T2D512E-OC can achieve even better benchmark results or real application performances than ever!
Anyone have any idea what games might come with this. I would have bought this without games, and I didn't take the time to see if I could find out what they were.
In for one.
Thanks Sederien. Wicked sick deal--considering how everyone else is gouging us on this.
Anyone have any idea what games might come with this. I would have bought this without games, and I didn't take the time to see if I could find out what they were.
In for one.
I'm not sure this is accurate, but I found this:
MSI Game Bundle
The MSI NX8800GT-T2D512E-OC is bundled with not one but two dynamic and popular games; “Dirt” and “The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar”. Experience the great looking tracks and cars in the spectacular game “DiRT”. This game was rated with a score of 8.4 by the well known gaming website www.ign.com. Or experience the magical world of ““The Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar” free online version for one month. This game was rated with a score of 8.3 by www.gamespot.com. “The game's greatest asset is that there's simply so much to do.”
Here's the Newegg GOUGE at $299.99 (and OOS):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127311
Romebaby
11-24-07, 11:56 PM
Dirt and LOTR MMORPG is what someone said over at SD.
What's a good non-H2O cooler for this thing?
This deal was posted on slick deals at around 2:10pm Saturday afternoon. The fact that it's 1:30am Sunday and Dell still has estimated ship date 1-2 weeks kind of scares me. I would have thought that this deal would have went dead before 8pm and considered myself lucky getting in at 7-ish...I just hope Dell can come remotely close to shipping near their estimated ship date. But I guess it's a win-win situation for us as time passes it only gives us a longer time span to get our hands on a better deal and cancel our orders with them...
The only reason I don't want to order one is because of the 1-2 weeks I might have to wait before it ships out. :-/
Just a jibe, but would you rather wait 1-2 weeks for it to become available somewhere else, for $50-$100 more, buy it and have it shipped to you the same time it takes to just order it now from Dell?
Just saying....
Well, looking at newegg the eVGA 8800GT with Crysis comes in on the 26th but at $299. I wanted Crysis anyway so that's pretty much like getting the card for ~$250. I don't mind paying a little more to have the card sooner. 2 weeks just seems like forever. Plus, my dad really wants my x1900.
You bring up a good point, though. I could get the MSI + Crysis for around $250 but it would take a little longer. I'll have to think about this.
edit - With a lot of thinking I ordered the MSI for $225 shipped after tax. :p
Well, looking at newegg the eVGA 8800GT with Crysis comes in on the 26th but at $299. I wanted Crysis anyway so that's pretty much like getting the card for ~$250. I don't mind paying a little more to have the card sooner. 2 weeks just seems like forever. Plus, my dad really wants my x1900.
You bring up a good point, though. I could get the MSI + Crysis for around $250 but it would take a little longer. I'll have to think about this.
edit - With a lot of thinking I ordered the MSI for $225 shipped after tax. :p
Good man! If you are thinking of purchasing this card, this is the deal to grab.
I was going to mention a few other tidbits about the deal:
1) It may ship sooner, all their items are mail order so it may take less time or more. Generally it takes less, so you could see the card sooner than 2 weeks.
2) Newegg's ETA is based on shipment dates. They are expecting to get some cards in that day, but who's to say the shipment day isn't late or... how many product they get in. Or better yet, that it won't be sold out by the time you read your notification email or try to order when you see it in stock.
:) I think you made the right decision, this is a very good price. Are you sure you didn't order 2? ;) ;)
edit: why do I feel like a salesman in this forum? Every decent deal I see I push, even though I haven't personally made any of the purchases...
I would order 2 but no board to do SLI. Once it gets here it will be time for some dry ice quad-core & watercooled 8800GT benching. :D
WonderingSoul
11-25-07, 08:57 AM
Deal's dead I think. I click on the link in the OP and dell pulled the product page and searched for MSI 8800GT and got nothing.
WildMonkey
11-25-07, 09:00 AM
DEAD DEAL
Funny story though. I was checking out this deal via the link in this article just now, and I was deciding whether to get it (being MSI and all).
I was searching for review and decided to go for it. But when I clicked on the link for the second time I got an error, and I couldn't find it in the catalog as well (I think they took it off).
But the first time I went there I had put the card in my cart, but not payed for it, and closed the tab. And low and behold, the card was still in my cart the second time I visited the site, and the transaction did go through!
stereo555
11-25-07, 09:12 AM
Yup definilty dead deal on the MSI .
But , the XFX 8800gt is still available @ $234.68 if anyone missed the MSI one (thx to Yojo ;) ) . Linky : http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1350995&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643#Overview
WonderingSoul
11-25-07, 09:27 AM
Turns out the MSI is one of the leading 8800GT 512MB cards too.
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/index.php
WildMonkey
11-25-07, 09:33 AM
Turns out the MSI is one of the leading 8800GT 512MB cards too.
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/index.php
Nice site. Never heard of Zotac cards! Anyone else?
stereo555
11-25-07, 09:39 AM
Turns out the MSI is one of the leading 8800GT 512MB cards too.
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews/8800GTs/index.php
Heres a few more reviews that include the MSI 8800GT :
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_GeForce_8800_GT_Review/5369-1.html#Scene_1
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?cat=grfx&id=548&pagenumber=1
Elluzion
11-25-07, 11:34 AM
omg its gone. well if it was here now, then it will be back again...
SteveLord
11-25-07, 12:50 PM
Dell processes and ships quick for me. Ground takes like 2-3 days. This includes accessories and full systems I've ordered from them for work.
leftheaded
11-25-07, 04:27 PM
Yup definilty dead deal on the MSI .
But , the XFX 8800gt is still available @ $234.68 if anyone missed the MSI one (thx to Yojo ;) ) . Linky : http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1350995&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643#Overview
hmm i just bought two of those xfx cards :beer: i read that it easily overclocks to 700Mhz... hope that wasn't a mistake! lol now i need to find a mobo for these and the Q6600 I just got a frys :D ... going to start a new thread somewhere. thanks for the link!
hmm i just bought two of those xfx cards :beer: i read that it easily overclocks to 700Mhz... hope that wasn't a mistake! lol now i need to find a mobo for these and the Q6600 I just got a frys :D ... going to start a new thread somewhere. thanks for the link!
dude, with your quick trigger finger, I would probably love to meet you if I'm a sale's person. I can probably get ya to buy couple of those new 1TB HDs, a nice X38 board, some expensive RAMs, maybe a nice 30" LCD ... and my XMas bonus would be set. :bday:
I got a chance to grab 2 myself so um...sorry to anyone who couldn't get one kekekekeke. :santa:
I got a chance to grab 2 myself so um...sorry to anyone who couldn't get one kekekekeke. :santa:
I'm kinda wondering if I should have gone ahead and snatched up a second one.
On second thought--I guess I'd like to stay married...
stereo555
11-27-07, 10:27 AM
*BUMP*
The MSI 8800GT deal is BACK !!! (11/27/07 8:27am PST)
Linky : http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1348853&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643
Grab'em QUICK !!!!
Can it be combined with the 20% off paypal deal?
stereo555
11-27-07, 11:08 AM
Can it be combined with the 20% off paypal deal?
No , the Paypal 20% thing for Dell is off (pulled/ended early) .
the paypal deal with dell is dead...same deal with newegg. but the price for the card still can't be beaten at this time...esp with it being factory oc'ed.
Red_Hot_Poker
11-27-07, 11:36 AM
*BUMP*
The MSI 8800GT deal is BACK !!! (11/27/07 8:27am PST)
Linky : http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1348853&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643
Grab'em QUICK !!!!
Thanks, was thinking about ordering this card the other day but decided to late and the deal was dead.
Def not missing out this time and ordered one. After looking at the prices of other sites, this one can not be overlooked :clap:
drshivas
11-27-07, 02:22 PM
In for one. Hope this doesn't turn out like the Radeon 8500 debacle.
Will my Antec TP 430w handle this beast?
SteveLord
11-27-07, 03:54 PM
The 8800GT is very power friendly. Hunt these forums and XS for similar setups.
In for one. Hope this doesn't turn out like the Radeon 8500 debacle.
Will my Antec TP 430w handle this beast?
I use 430W antec power supplies here at work to power Core2Duo systems with an 8800GTS. Your system should be fine with this.
woot. i'm tempted, but i'm controlling it... i need to find a good card to throw in my girl's new rig as i'm sure i'll be gaming on it when it's all complete. :)
woot. i'm tempted, but i'm controlling it... i need to find a good card to throw in my girl's new rig as i'm sure i'll be gaming on it when it's all complete. :)
Doode, you totally know that she's asking for a MSI GEFORCE 8800GT 512MB OC CARD for Christmas.
Jewelery? Pssh...trust me, she wants a new graphics card.
Win/win situation.
:D
drshivas
11-28-07, 08:46 AM
Just canceled my oder and went with an in-stock EVGA 8800GT/Crysis bundle at newegg. Don't have a good feeling about this Dell deal being open for so long.
tempting for sure...
this and the Radeon HD3870 on Dell i've seen for about the same price. no clue how to decide which I should take!!
Well, I ordered the MSI card last Friday before the deal died. Then Monday I saw the paypal deal and jumped on an XFX for $251 - $50 paypal cash back deal. I figure I can always cancel the MSI if I want, but I might just see if it goes through and ebay the thing. I am bound to make a profit given how hard these are to find.
Well, I ordered the MSI card last Friday before the deal died. Then Monday I saw the paypal deal and jumped on an XFX for $251 - $50 paypal cash back deal. I figure I can always cancel the MSI if I want, but I might just see if it goes through and ebay the thing. I am bound to make a profit given how hard these are to find.
you'd have to sell it for at least $280 to cover your paypal fees, ebay fees, and shipping fees... i wouldn't be so sure it's worth the time. plus, does Dell charge shipping and tax on the item when you buy it?
SteveLord
11-28-07, 09:54 AM
I think DELL hits everyone for tax.
KillrBuckeye
11-28-07, 10:01 AM
tempting for sure...
this and the Radeon HD3870 on Dell i've seen for about the same price. no clue how to decide which I should take!!From all the reviews I've read, the 8800GT performs better than the 3870. If the cards are priced the same, isn't it an easy decision? Don't get me wrong, I'm not partial to either company. I had made up my mind to get a 3870 when they were listed for $220 on Newegg and the cheapest 8800GT I could find was ~$270, but there were none in stock. As soon as I came across this deal, I sent the link to my wife and told her "This is the card I want for Xmas!". Hopefully she ordered, and hopefully the card will arrive before Christmas. :santa:
From all the reviews I've read, the 8800GT performs better than the 3870. If the cards are priced the same, isn't it an easy decision? Don't get me wrong, I'm not partial to either company. I had made up my mind to get a 3870 when they were listed for $220 on Newegg and the cheapest 8800GT I could find was ~$270, but there were none in stock. As soon as I came across this deal, I sent the link to my wife and told her "This is the card I want for Xmas!". Hopefully she ordered, and hopefully the card will arrive before Christmas. :santa:
exactly why i'm thinking of jumping on this... but i'll have to check with my gf and if she'll be willing to put it in her new build. she's going to tell me that she never games, but i want to get her into gaming!!!!!!!
KillrBuckeye
11-28-07, 10:59 AM
exactly why i'm thinking of jumping on this... but i'll have to check with my gf and if she'll be willing to put it in her new build. she's going to tell me that she never games, but i want to get her into gaming!!!!!!!LOL. Good luck with that. I've tried, unsuccessfully, for almost 8 years to get my wife into gaming. The only game she'll really play is Guitar Hero on PS2, and even then it only keeps her attention for 30 minutes at a time.
Brolloks
11-28-07, 12:53 PM
LOL. Good luck with that. I've tried, unsuccessfully, for almost 8 years to get my wife into gaming. The only game she'll really play is Guitar Hero on PS2, and even then it only keeps her attention for 30 minutes at a time.
Just tell her you need a hefty card for that 24" LCD you planning to buy, plus shopping at Macy's on 24" with a 8800 GT is a wonderfull experience :santa:
Coreyhm1
11-28-07, 04:17 PM
I ordered mine last night, i got a est. ship date of 12/12. I have heard horror stories about Dell and what they have in stock, such as saying it will ship in 2weeks which in reality its 2 months :shrug:
I'll call them tomarrow, and if it doesn't ship by the 13th. Im going cancel and hopefully newegg will have something in stock
LOL. Good luck with that. I've tried, unsuccessfully, for almost 8 years to get my wife into gaming. The only game she'll really play is Guitar Hero on PS2, and even then it only keeps her attention for 30 minutes at a time.
I'm afraid of engagement!! She needs to play FPS to qualify!!
Just tell her you need a hefty card for that 24" LCD you planning to buy, plus shopping at Macy's on 24" with a 8800 GT is a wonderfull experience :santa:
Brolloks is a genius!! :)
LOL. Good luck with that. I've tried, unsuccessfully, for almost 8 years to get my wife into gaming. The only game she'll really play is Guitar Hero on PS2, and even then it only keeps her attention for 30 minutes at a time.
The only game the wife will play on a regular basis is Dr. Mario on the Super Nintendo. On occasion I've seen her play Super Mario Brothers and Super Mario Brothers 3 but she can't beat either of them.
At least she doesn't tell me I can't game :beer:
You gotta start them early, in their teens or twenties. That builds the reflexes and want to play newer games. :P Of course, there's always roller coaster tycoon. :D
Jame Gumb
11-28-07, 05:16 PM
Would you guys post when you get your parcels delivered so we can get an idea how long Dell takes to ship out the cards?
I go to check the Dell page after I ordered it(at $207) and they raised the price on them to $259.99 now.
stereo555
11-28-07, 06:01 PM
Would you guys post when you get your parcels delivered so we can get an idea how long Dell takes to ship out the cards?
I go to check the Dell page after I ordered it(at $207) and they raised the price on them to $259.99 now.
Surprised the $208 price lasted this long . There is still the XFX 8800gt for $235 http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/games/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=29&sku=a1350995&dgc=CJ&cid=24471&lid=566643#Overview
Coreyhm1
11-28-07, 10:08 PM
Would you guys post when you get your parcels delivered so we can get an idea how long Dell takes to ship out the cards?
I go to check the Dell page after I ordered it(at $207) and they raised the price on them to $259.99 now.
I done one of those dell chat things, she said check my status on the 4th... so we will see. Maybe thats when they get a shipment in, my est date is 12/12.. ill post when i get it
knight_of_knee
11-28-07, 10:20 PM
Yeah mine says it should be shipped out by the 10th so only a couple weeks worth of waiting for that bad boy!
Brolloks
11-28-07, 11:18 PM
They must be working 24/7 to make the cards unless they plan to backorder into 1st quarter of next year...hope this does not go bust :bang head
Still unsure if my card has shipped or what it's doing. The only e-mail I have received is the confirmation of purchase. I'm biting my nails here.
Coreyhm1
11-29-07, 12:19 AM
I hope these get shipped fast, if they have to do some crazy back orders.. im might cancel. But that customer service lady told me to wait untill the 4th and check the status, so maybe they are getting a big shipment then. But atleast they dont charge your card untill it ships
I hope these get shipped fast, if they have to do some crazy back orders.. im might cancel. But that customer service lady told me to wait untill the 4th and check the status, so maybe they are getting a big shipment then. But atleast they dont charge your card untill it ships
True, the 5th is when almost every retailer around is getting a restock on this card.
Yeah, I'm pretty antsy right now. This is the first time I'm ordering from Dell with a non Dell product soooo...Dell don't fail me now! *rolls dice*
Coreyhm1
11-29-07, 02:29 AM
My first time ordering from them too. I hope this thing does get shipped before the 10th. I almost canelled my order and bought the 3870 from BestBuy, well it was in stock for a whole 10 minutes, 5 minutes ago. lol!
maybe it was a sign, telling me no! :beer:
Jame Gumb
11-29-07, 01:08 PM
My email said they expect it to ship 12-13-07. This was a good score!
The hard mods look pretty clean, the pots can lay close to the points and only one really small contact to solder.
I ordered a Dell DJ and an LCD a long time ago and I can't remember how long it took for them to ship.
I've never used the chat before, so I'm going to chat w/ them to get more info closer to the date. I've been on their forums complaining about some DJ firmware regarding vista which they never really replied to, nor bothered to release a vista patch.
Don't know if this news will do anybody any good, but I just spotted TWO EVGA 8800GT 512MB sitting on the shelf of the Fry's at Woodland Hills, CA.
They sell for $269 before tax.
If you REALLY want a 8800GT and live close to Woodland Hills, CA, you might have a chance to snatch one!
Coreyhm1
11-29-07, 07:32 PM
I called them today, i was about to cancel my order.. but ill keep it. The guy said they DO have them in stock right now and it should ship out fairly soon.. but it could be BS, if it ships ill post back
toddm27
11-29-07, 07:36 PM
Don't know if this news will do anybody any good, but I just spotted TWO EVGA 8800GT 512MB sitting on the shelf of the Fry's at Woodland Hills, CA.
They sell for $269 before tax.
If you REALLY want a 8800GT and live close to Woodland Hills, CA, you might have a chance to snatch one!
they're also in stock on outpost.com ;)
they're also in stock on outpost.com ;)
Well, good for you!
I seem to get the impression that 8800GT is well nigh impossible to find. That's why I posted.:)
$269 before tax is NOT cheap, though.
toddm27
11-29-07, 07:55 PM
I'm not buying one from them, I'm waiting on my msi :D
EternalX
11-30-07, 09:46 AM
I talked to Dell chat this morning and got my order upgraded to free next day delivery. How nice! they were sticking firm to 12/10/07 for a ship date, wouldnt give me any additional information. I am just happy I got in quick on the 24th of November, hopefully my card ships as soon as they get some. I have a feeling it will take them awhile to fill all the orders but you never know how much they are getting in.
knight_of_knee
11-30-07, 09:59 AM
I talked to Dell chat this morning and got my order upgraded to free next day delivery. How nice! they were sticking firm to 12/10/07 for a ship date, wouldnt give me any additional information. I am just happy I got in quick on the 24th of November, hopefully my card ships as soon as they get some. I have a feeling it will take them awhile to fill all the orders but you never know how much they are getting in.
Now how did you manage that? Because it sounds like I need to be calling Dell and get me some free next day shipping. I ordered mine on the 25th of November and it has the same shipping date of 12/10/07. But hmm Dell is going to be getting a call from me. lol :D
WonderingSoul
11-30-07, 05:47 PM
Deal is dead again.
I still have not received an e-mail from Dell. I know it said 1-2 weeks but I would at least expect a ship date from them.
I ordered 11/27 and shipped date is not till 12/17.
I called Dell today just for an explanation and was informed they are on backorder, so it will be a while before they ship out to everyone that ordered.
Coreyhm1
12-01-07, 03:20 PM
Im going to give mine untill the 7th, then i will probably cancel and order one around the 11th and hope the prices drop on the egg. Unless i can get one with a $50 game included lol.
I ordered 11/27 and shipped date is not till 12/17.
I called Dell today just for an explanation and was informed they are on backorder, so it will be a while before they ship out to everyone that ordered.
You ordered yours a whole 2 days after me and got a ship date. I placed my order on the 25th and Dell has said nothing to me. :confused:
how do you cancle a dell order online ? or do you have to call them?
Coreyhm1
12-01-07, 05:13 PM
online chat or call them
Brolloks
12-01-07, 09:04 PM
online chat or call them
I tried to cancel with online chat and the woman told me that i cannot cancel anymore as my order has gone into processing (ship date 12/13), only thing I can do is to wait for the card and send it back if I don't want it...that sucks !!:bang head
Coreyhm1
12-01-07, 09:37 PM
Yep same thing to me too, i was told i can't cancel because it had been sent to the "fullfillment" system. BUT she said for the trouble she knocked $50 off making it $190 after shipping. But that was because someone before her told me i could cancel it, and for him lieing to me i got a $50 treat!
so im not complaining, as long as it gets here before christmas :beer:
looks like I need to have a little chat with them as well since it seems to be so productibve!
UPDATE: I just used Dell chat it's back ordered to Jan 8, 2008!!
ANOTHER UPDATE: I got angry and asked for a supervisor, and just when I got connected and started typing, the chat session is dropped. So I restarted the browser to reconnect, can never do it again. Tried another browser, no use, I have a feel they are blocking my connections.
Okay, processing an order and shipping an order is two different things. They are fully capable of canceling your order if it hasn't shipped yet. When an order is processed it just gets sent out to the shipping department. With the backorder right now, your order is just sitting in the system, simple as that.
And now the 8800GT will be pushed back till next year?! WTF, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. I'm going to talk to them tomorrow and confirm this.
I WILL get my cards before Christmas. :mad:
I still think it's funny how this deal was posted across hundreds of websites and everyone ordered thinking it WOULDNT be backordered to hell. I always said, let us know when you get it and then we can consider it a good deal, until then it's just an advertisement without any proof.
looks like I need to have a little chat with them as well since it seems to be so productibve!
UPDATE: I just used Dell chat it's back ordered to Jan 8, 2008!!
ANOTHER UPDATE: I got angry and asked for a supervisor, and just when I got connected and started typing, the chat session is dropped. So I restarted the browser to reconnect, can never do it again. Tried another browser, no use, I have a feel they are blocking my connections.
nyker,
You should contact Dell again and double check the status. I just got off the phone with my buddy from Dell and he assured me that the absolute latest that this card can be delayed till is 12/12. So...whichever rep told you that it was gonna be back ordered is a complete moron.
vixro,
When an item is back ordered to a certain date, most companies do a good job of fulfilling that order on that date. The only problems that would cause an even longer delay would be through transit or production problems. And since I haven't read anywhere that there's a shortage on parts, I'm gonna listen to my friend and keep my order.
Hang in there guys, you'll be booting up these GTs in no time. We're gonna get through this! LOL
Coreyhm1
12-03-07, 12:25 PM
We need the support :beer:
Maybe it will get shipped out this week... maybe..
toddm27
12-03-07, 12:27 PM
I just called to check the status on my order and was assured it would ship no later than 12/10 which is what is on my order status page or possibly sooner, they also told me I could cancel as long as it hasn't shipped, but I think I'll wait it out for a week :beer:
KillrBuckeye
12-03-07, 12:51 PM
I know people are anxious to get these cards, but I'll gladly wait an extra week or two or three for the card if it saves $60-90! The prices some retailers are asking for this card are ridiculous, and I'll be very surprised if it's offered for less than $208 at a place like Newegg before the middle of January.
I know people are anxious to get these cards, but I'll gladly wait an extra week or two or three for the card if it saves $60-90! The prices some retailers are asking for this card are ridiculous, and I'll be very surprised if it's offered for less than $208 at a place like Newegg before the middle of January.
I agree with you. What I find so interesting is how quick people are to accept what other random people post as absolute truth. ie - "I just got off the phone with the Dell rep, who told me that he just finished raping my dead grandmother and sacrificing Indonesian children to his devil god. He also told me that Dell never really was going to ship anything and that they just wanted our credit card numbers so that all of their staff could get free midget porn." It's like a game of telephone gone bad or something :bang head
WildMonkey
12-03-07, 03:23 PM
Has anyone gotten a tracking number yet?
Red_Hot_Poker
12-03-07, 05:00 PM
I know people are anxious to get these cards, but I'll gladly wait an extra week or two or three for the card if it saves $60-90! The prices some retailers are asking for this card are ridiculous, and I'll be very surprised if it's offered for less than $208 at a place like Newegg before the middle of January.
I can wait for it at that price :)
WonderingSoul
12-03-07, 05:13 PM
Still "In Production" for me.
Shipping Method: 3-5 Business Days
Est. Ship Date: 12/10/2007
Est. Delivery Date: 12/13/2007-12/17/2007
stereo555
12-03-07, 05:24 PM
Ditto for me , and I ordered on the 24th . I can wait considering the price was pretty sweet. :santa:
Status :In Production
Shipping Method: 3-5 Business Days
Est. Ship Date: 12/10/2007
Est. Delivery Date: 12/13/2007-12/17/2007
WonderingSoul
12-03-07, 05:25 PM
Same here, ordered on the 24th at like 11:00 at night :p
I called Dell today and they said my ship date is also on the 10th.
Coreyhm1
12-03-07, 06:03 PM
Shipping Method: Next Business Day
Est. Ship Date: 12/12/2007
Est. Delivery Date: 12/13/2007
:beer:
Dell, we are waiting :bang head
Red_Hot_Poker
12-03-07, 10:18 PM
Shipping Method: 3-5 Business Days
Est. Ship Date: 12/12/2007
Est. Delivery Date: 12/17/2007-12/19/2007
Maybe I should watch The Simpsons Season 1-10 and by the time I'm finished, it will have shipped. :bday:
Super Nade
12-03-07, 11:28 PM
Watch desperate housewives instead... you will age a year by the time you get done with one episode (don't ask me why I watched or how many times I was woken up)...:beer:
WildMonkey
12-04-07, 08:02 AM
Thinking about it gets me more and more angry.
Why do these clowns sell so much stuff that they don't have and don't intend on having?
2 weeks just to see if they are going to ship an order, bah last time I order from dell, good deal or not.
Thinking about it gets me more and more angry.
Why do these clowns sell so much stuff that they don't have and don't intend on having?
2 weeks just to see if they are going to ship an order, bah last time I order from dell, good deal or not.
Dell can be awesome, and Dell can be jerks... I don't order from them and I order from them... in waves. I have mixed feelings about them and it's purely dependent on their representatives. Some of them give a crap, roughly 15%, and the rest don't... at least with my experience, and I've had EASILY over 20-25 calls with them.
KillrBuckeye
12-04-07, 03:29 PM
Well, so much for waiting around for the card to be delivered. A family member ordered this card for me on Nov 28 and just got notification from Dell that the order had been cancelled. Upon calling Dell and dealing with a bunch of idiots, she was finally told that they just won't have enough of the cards to fulfill the order.
Well, I'm happy for those of you who will actually be getting this card at a great price. Looks like someone will need to pay a lot more to get the card for me (assuming I can even find one), or get an ATI 3870 instead.
Coreyhm1
12-04-07, 04:42 PM
That sucks, i was going to cancel my order a few days ago but they said i couldn't because it has been sent to the "fullfillment" system. I ordered on the 27th, so maybe this means im in the "safe zone"? :(
they would not let you cancel the order?
Id put stop payment on my credit card immediately, and tell them to go to hell, if i wanted to cancle it.
Coreyhm1
12-04-07, 05:55 PM
The only reason im not, they knocked another $50 off for the "trouble", making it $180 after shipping. I talked to a few people and online chat to see if i was getting screwed, but all told me the same thing because it was sent to the "fullfillment" system. So i hope this means it should be shipped failry soon. IF or when it ships, ill post.
Coreyhm1
12-04-07, 10:44 PM
Well, if anyone is interested:
Time Details
12/04/2007 10:24:53PM Corey: "I have a question about the MSI 8800GT i placed on the 27th"
12/04/2007 10:25:06PM Agent : "Sure.,"
12/04/2007 10:26:21PM Corey: "I know my estimated ship date is the 12/12, a previous person i talked to last week suggested i check my status on the 4th, i know this is a high demanding product and may or may not be on backorder"
12/04/2007 10:26:39PM Agent : "I will personally review your records and will obtain the latest information for you."
12/04/2007 10:29:38PM Agent : "Corey, I have checked the details and I see that, your order is backordered."
12/04/2007 10:29:47PM Corey: "one of my concerns are, a few people i know that ordered this product on the same date has received emails stating their order has been canceled do to lack of quantity"
12/04/2007 10:29:55PM Agent : "The estimated ship date of your order is 12/12/2007."
12/04/2007 10:30:21PM Agent : "Corey, do not worry your order is not cancelled."
12/04/2007 10:30:51PM Corey: "Do you know when this should be back in stock?"
12/04/2007 10:31:19PM Agent : "Corey, I apologize, I do not have the information."
12/04/2007 10:32:14PM Corey: "Ok, if something happens and is doesn't ship by the 12th, can i cancel? i was told by two people that it cannot be cancel because it was sent to the "fullfillment" system. is this true?"
12/04/2007 10:33:20PM Agent: "Corey, if the order goes to the fulfillment center the order can not be cancelled, but if the order can not be cancelled you can return the order."
i edited it, well i suppose as long as i get it before christmas :bang head
Coreyhm1
12-06-07, 04:15 PM
I got a call from dell today, they said that the manufacture wont have them for a while. So i got the option to cancel my order and i did.
WonderingSoul
12-06-07, 05:40 PM
I got a call from dell today, they said that the manufacture wont have them for a while. So i got the option to cancel my order and i did.
How long did they estimate?
toddm27
12-06-07, 05:59 PM
I got out of a chat, they said they had a 10 day lead time and my order was delayed for an additional 2 days to the 12th
WildMonkey
12-06-07, 06:25 PM
I've chatted twice and I never got a straight answer for anything. They just said that my order would not be canceled. But nothing on when or status or anything.
Coreyhm1
12-06-07, 06:41 PM
I got out of a chat, they said they had a 10 day lead time and my order was delayed for an additional 2 days to the 12th
Thats what i was told, but i just canceled it. Who knows how long its really going to be.. i might just go with the 3870 and be done with it.
It's looking pretty bleak at this point, guys...
For anybody who has an active order should contact Dell right away and ask them how they can compensate you if the ship date is not honored on the 12th of December. The response I got from them was that if it is delayed even further I will automatically receive $25 off my order, *HINT*. And I've got the logged conversation also. This will definitely persuade me not go with another card, reseller, etc. Waiting this long for a backorder is pretty damn ridiculous so I made it clear to Dell that my time and patience should be valued. :thup:
toddm27
12-07-07, 07:56 AM
well I just came across a deal on ebay for an xfx, so I canceled my order, good luck guys :)
I phoned in and the system said 12/12 but the op I talked with said not until Jan 8, 2008. It's very back ordered, although she said she will expedite the shipment at no extra cost. Like that helps. Looks like we might not get it even this year.
knight_of_knee
12-07-07, 09:38 AM
Yeah, had an internet chat with one of their customer service reps and he said it wouldn't be shipped out until the 19th so I just canceled it and hopefully my best buy can get some in before that lol.
they confirmed mine to ship on the 10th of dec...
then i got scared and checked online chat...
they said the 12th....
so i qq'ed and they gave me free next day delivery... dunno about my other card from them yet
toddm27
12-07-07, 10:16 AM
Yeah, had an internet chat with one of their customer service reps and he said it wouldn't be shipped out until the 19th so I just canceled it and hopefully my best buy can get some in before that lol.
well for anybody looking, zipzoomfly's got a bunch of models in stock and ncix has some galaxy cards for 250 plus shipping:beer:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27328&vpn=88YFF6HUFEXX&manufacture=Galaxy%20Techology&promoid=1051
and if you buy it from the canada site it comes out to 245 dollars :D, but on the us site, it's 250 lol, so stick to the canada side;)
i checked on my xfx from dell, supposed to ship on the 11th... shipping on 19th ... got free next day shipping and a $25 credit...i qq'ed even more and got $15 credit on the msi.
you have to understand the way to barter a little and to be polite and its ez
I have to say I am satisfied, 50 bucks in free shipping and $40 off. not a bad compromise.
WonderingSoul
12-07-07, 10:41 AM
Looks like they are going to get a lot of QQ. I'll be sure to wear my QQ goggles and toggle toggle.
One thing I am trying to do is look on the bright side of this cause it sucks. LOL, the rest of the non dell world is getting thier cards on time, but they are paying more for it.
grrrr, im felling confused over this
I would rather wait a few weeks and get a card for 60-100 dollars less. Those dell cards were a steal.
I'd have one if I had a pci slot to put it in...
yeah i guess i feel alright about it, dells doing the best they can.
I am also getting the paypal 25% off the xfx because I called them and confirmed it before dell backed out of that deal...unless they screw me out of it some how.
Alot of people are paying over $300 for these and I am paying around 200 ea.
Red_Hot_Poker
12-07-07, 01:16 PM
I would rather wait a few weeks and get a card for 60-100 dollars less. Those dell cards were a steal.
I'd have one if I had a pci slot to put it in...
So true...
I'll stick with my good deal MSI 8800gt rather then this card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150264 thats the same price but 256 lol...
WildMonkey
12-07-07, 01:40 PM
I disagree with most of you.
If you have a few items for sale and you are able to sell them at a cheaper price than your competition then you will sell out and that's it. It doesn't matter if your next batch will be at a higher price because you for some reason can't offer the sales price again.
No big deal, nature of the business.
These people sold us an item at a price THEY set and we all thought it was a good deal so we agreed to it by purchasing it thus starting a contractual agreement (yes, any sale is a contractual agreement).
It is poor business to delay our purchase just because of their ineptitude. Yes, we have options but if a contract/agreement is established they should honor it.
Maybe you people are used to dealing with irresponsible teenagers that sell their stuff on forums but I find Dell's attitude in very poor taste, and I would expect more from them or from any other reputable dealer.
knight_of_knee
12-07-07, 01:56 PM
Well I just ordered an EVGA 8800gt superclocked off of ClubIT and it's 288.xx before shipping so, I'm paying 80 bucks to get it shipped today and have a life time warranty and step-up so I think I can live with that.
WonderingSoul
12-07-07, 07:46 PM
Just finished talking to chat.
Free upgraded shipping to next day, and $20 off my original order. So that's $202.XX and free shipping.
I can afford the wait now....
Just finished talking to chat.
Free upgraded shipping to next day, and $20 off my original order. So that's $202.XX and free shipping.
I can afford the wait now....
How come you got that $20 off and free overnight? :drool:
WonderingSoul
12-07-07, 07:53 PM
How come you got that $20 off and free overnight? :drool:
I can PM you the chat log if you like :)
The person I talked to was super nice. Saini Navneet was the agent's name.
I was just reasonable and said I felt I should be compensated if my ship date was not honored.
yes its annoying of dell to do this but they also compensate you so its hard not to be satisfied.
I disagree with most of you.
If you have a few items for sale and you are able to sell them at a cheaper price than your competition then you will sell out and that's it. It doesn't matter if your next batch will be at a higher price because you for some reason can't offer the sales price again.
No big deal, nature of the business.
These people sold us an item at a price THEY set and we all thought it was a good deal so we agreed to it by purchasing it thus starting a contractual agreement (yes, any sale is a contractual agreement).
It is poor business to delay our purchase just because of their ineptitude. Yes, we have options but if a contract/agreement is established they should honor it.
Maybe you people are used to dealing with irresponsible teenagers that sell their stuff on forums but I find Dell's attitude in very poor taste, and I would expect more from them or from any other reputable dealer.
It's not like Dell has them and is holding out on you. They don't have the cards, and can't get them until the manufacturers ship them. They are doing the best they can.
Coreyhm1
12-07-07, 10:22 PM
I hope you guys don't get screwed, Dell called me directly, said that the manufacture isn't going to have them and it would be an estimated lead time of 10 days. So who knows how long that really is, pretty much saying my order was going to be canceled unless i wanted to wait and just "hope" something happens. But if you all get yours, you got a good deal. I just bought the 3870 from newegg for $250..
Im disapointed, i was going to get a 8800GT for $200 :mad:
WonderingSoul
12-07-07, 10:39 PM
I'll wait it. The money saved is worth it. I don't forsee getting an 8800GT for sub ~220 within a year or so.
I'll wait it. The money saved is worth it. I don't forsee getting an 8800GT for sub ~220 within a year or so.
Within a year???!
Do you mean within THIS year?
The card is pretty sweet, but I think the 9000 series will be out within 6 months and the price of this card will plummet...
I'd wait it out... can always cancel if prices drop in the meantime, but I don't see that happening before they ship your GT.
WonderingSoul
12-08-07, 10:45 AM
Within a year???!
Do you mean within THIS year?
The card is pretty sweet, but I think the 9000 series will be out within 6 months and the price of this card will plummet...
Yeah, I do mean within a year. Look at the prices of the regular 8800GTS/X line they didn't drop practically at all and they have been out for over a year.
You can only charge people 500+ for a graphics card when they are in the category of "will pay anything for the fastest graphics out there". That's only true when it's the newest card. As soon as those 8800's are not the fastest, now all of a sudden you can't hope for the ultra-luxury market. At best you can get the mid range, price-conscious gamer market. Prices will drop a lot as soon as there is something faster.
WildMonkey
12-09-07, 04:23 PM
I was just told that my order was going to be delayed until the 19th!
There are equivalent threads like this one over at
Anandtech - http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2122444
Slick Deals - http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=668772
[H]ard forum - http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1244994&page=24
I think you're best bet at this point is to sit tight until at least tomorrow (if that is when your ship date is). So many people being told so many different things. Unless the Dell order page changes, I am reluctant to believe what everyone is being told by the Dell CSR people due to their lack of uniform responses...
Well not sure if it matters, but here is what i am getting from the online Dell chat
9:26:17 PM Agent Vishal Khanna
The estimated shipping date for this order is 01/10/2008.
I'd just hang in there so you don't lose that price unless you see a better price come along.
Well not sure if it matters, but here is what i am getting from the online Dell chat
9:26:17 PM Agent Vishal Khanna
The estimated shipping date for this order is 01/10/2008.
See..that's why I hate reading this thread. :temper:
LOL.
I'd just hang in there so you don't lose that price unless you see a better price come along.
I'm so with you on that man. I just have to keep telling myself that this is a hell of a value.
All in all guys, if you've waited this long for it...then it would be kinda stupid if you canceled your order now. Most of us are getting compensated for waiting anyways, right? And after that, you won't be getting the cards at 208 at all...more like 185 or some sh*t.
Today we should all contact them all at once, at the same time...like an angry mob. HAHAHA
jjdeltor
12-10-07, 12:51 PM
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
So I just got a Dell email saying that my order is delayed to 12/17/07. CRUD!
- J
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
So I just got a Dell email saying that my order is delayed to 12/17/07. CRUD!
- J
I also got this email. My original shipping date was the 10th. I ordered the card back on November 24 at around 7pm.
At least it's only delayed till the 17th and at least they bothered to email us updating us on the status of the card and the shipping date. It could be worse as some people were claiming being told the card won't ship till January by Dell CSR's.
Don't get me wrong, I think Dell took more orders then they were could really handle and that could be the result of this. Unless it's another super deal like this, I don't forsee myself ordering anything else from Dell in the immediate future.
leftheaded
12-10-07, 01:06 PM
i ordered the XFX on 11/25 and just got an email from dell saying my order is delayed.
orig ship date: 12/10
revised ship date: 12/19
WildMonkey
12-10-07, 01:08 PM
I got an email saying that mine has been delayed to the 19th but this is what appears on their site.
Shipping Method: Next Business Day
Est. Ship Date: 12/10/2007
Est. Delivery Date: 12/11/2007
Carrier: Not Shipped
Tracking Number: Not Shipped
I had been told my order would ship on the 12... a 2 day delay.
today I got an email
pushing it back to the 17th
but when I talked to the rep in the chat.. the ship date is the 12th...
he did inform me that they did not know if they would have a card for me or not.
SO it looks like they did fill more orders then cards are available.
SO it looks like they did fill more orders then cards are available.
I would say Dell's reputation will really plummet from this, but it already doesn't seem to be that great...
stereo555
12-10-07, 02:08 PM
MSI ordered on the 24th ....
email recieved ; delayed till the Dec17th .
XFX ordered on the 26th ...
no email/date change as of yet .
We'll see what happens . :eh?:
WildMonkey
12-10-07, 02:09 PM
I would say Dell's reputation will really plummet from this, but it already doesn't seem to be that great...
Call them. Make your voice heard. They are the ones that took the orders. One would think that a 2 week lead time was sufficient.
Would you have bought it if it said 1-2 months...I don't think so.
Demand action. A problem that is not voiced doesn't get resolved.
WonderingSoul
12-10-07, 03:01 PM
Hmph. Ordered on the 24th. Delayed until the 17th.
Who didn't see this coming :p
WildMonkey
12-10-07, 03:06 PM
Hmph. Ordered on the 24th. Delayed until the 17th.
Who didn't see this coming :p
I'm pretty sure they'll just keep delaying until enough cancel to fulfill some kind of manageable size.
Better off looking elsewhere.
This is the first time I'm ordering from Dell
And this will be the last time I order from Dell...
E-mail notification that it will be shipped on the 17th.
If they delay again, then I'm just going to cancel. Not worth it at that point.
Why cancel until you find a comparable or better deal that will ship faster?
because every person that cancels lets dell know they messed up, and they free up a card for the rest of us, too lol
toddm27
12-11-07, 06:14 AM
Why cancel until you find a comparable or better deal that will ship faster?
well the best buy deal is just about as good as this, if there's one in stock at your store, 237 plus 10% off, a few bucks more, but not much :beer:
Anybody lookin to get these as a Xmas present for someone? Cause...GOOD LUCK! LOL.
:santa: Here ya go Dad. A new graphics card for ya.
:) Thanks son..waitasec...there's nothing inside! :confused:
:santa: *runs away*
On the bright side, those who are backordered might get the new, larger fan that nvidia released for the GT's. :beer:
http://en.expreview.com/?p=78
well the best buy deal is just about as good as this, if there's one in stock at your store, 237 plus 10% off, a few bucks more, but not much
That's a big if.
because every person that cancels lets dell know they messed up, and they free up a card for the rest of us, too lol
Not so sure Dell messed up. They may have been promised a bunch of cards and the manufacturer backed out. Dell doesn't make them.
erasmus372
12-11-07, 12:40 PM
So you 8800GT people don't feel like you're being singled out, the Visiontek HD3870 cards also just got delayed from Dell. Somewhere between 12/13 and 12/20 they may see them ship.
Wonder if PayPal is going to give me my 20% off after all this crap. At $188 I am still willing to wait. At $234 I don't think so.
my xfx is on 20% paypal... it was delayed till the 19th also.
WonderingSoul
12-11-07, 03:18 PM
On the bright side, those who are backordered might get the new, larger fan that nvidia released for the GT's. :beer:
http://en.expreview.com/?p=78
Eh, with the money saved from waiting I have an AC Accellero S1 just waiting for my 8800GT :beer:
Eh, with the money saved from waiting I have an AC Accellero S1 just waiting for my 8800GT :beer:
Yeah, I got 2 Swiftech MCW60 Water Blocks just sitting here as well.
Anybody else thinking of alternate cooling for these cards?
Thermalright has a nice cooler for the GT,
http://www.svc.com/hr-03gt.html
Although, it would defeat the purpose of getting the card for its one slot cooling. =\
I said this would happen!!!!
If it's just a big deal cancel. Chances are they are backed up on thousands of orders, they WERE the cheapest price posted every which way across the internet. Best Buy sold out on their $249.99 deal online in a day, but Dell kept the $208 deal up for over 2 weeks. That means each shipment they get in is only another day of sales, you could be waiting until early next year before you get the cards.
WonderingSoul
12-11-07, 08:14 PM
I said this would happen!!!!
If it's just a big deal cancel. Chances are they are backed up on thousands of orders, they WERE the cheapest price posted every which way across the internet. Best Buy sold out on their $249.99 deal online in a day, but Dell kept the $208 deal up for over 2 weeks. That means each shipment they get in is only another day of sales, you could be waiting until early next year before you get the cards.
The thing is here is to get an 8800GT for ~200 is rediculous. Waiting for them is worth it in my opinion. It's not like they are going to dissapear people... They are just backordered...
I'm figuring around Feb when the Geforce 9's come out I'll pick up a GTS v2 for about 200.
I'm figuring around Feb when the Geforce 9's come out I'll pick up a GTS v2 for about 200.
Muh?
I thought you bought some GT cards from Dell, MRD?
Nope, I was going to, but I don't have a PCI-E system yet. I'm building one very soon though, and I figure that the cards will be even cheaper once the 9 series comes out.
Brolloks
12-13-07, 03:47 PM
I'm furious:mad::mad::mad:Just got of the chatline with Dell, they pushed back my ship date to 1/16/2008...needless to say I cancelled my order and will not be buying any other PC parts from them, hope more people do this so they get the message :bang head:bang head
I don't know why people are furious with Dell. I think they're doing the right thing. When I found a great deal at Fry's and they ran out of stock (it said when I ordered it that they were in stock), they just cancelled it on me and said they would not honor the price. Here Dell is offering to honor the price, even though they don't have more cards yet and don't know what they will cost, and you guys are dumping on them.
It's not like I'm a big Dell guy either. I don't own any Dell PC's (I build my own)... although I'm considering their Ubuntu laptop line if they can get some more options in there and better pricing.
Bottom line is that Dell cannot control when they get these cards. They are being shipped by MSI. MSI can't control it because they are probably waiting on chips from nVidia.
I don't see any reason to cancel the order with Dell until you find a better offer... I would hold onto it until such time as a better offer shows up, unless you need it for a Christmas gift, then I guess I could see paying 100 bucks more to get it fast.
KillrBuckeye
12-13-07, 04:05 PM
I don't know why people are furious with Dell. I think they're doing the right thing. When I found a great deal at Fry's and they ran out of stock (it said when I ordered it that they were in stock), they just cancelled it on me and said they would not honor the price. Here Dell is offering to honor the price, even though they don't have more cards yet and don't know what they will cost, and you guys are dumping on them.Dell did cancel my order (well, it is my mother-in-law's order, but it was intended for me), so I think it depends on when you ordered. :( It's too bad, because I would have been willing to wait. Still, I think it was wrong of Dell to accept so many orders for the card given that supply is so limited. Your average consumer is not going to be happy waiting 2 months to get a product, even if it saves a bit of money! I think it's naive to think that Dell had no idea supply would be so limited. They should have at least warned people that the estimated ship date would probably be 4-6 weeks from date of order.
Maybe MSI told them x number of cards were coming by some date, and backed out?
Still, it's ****ty if they did cancel your order.
Brolloks
12-13-07, 04:22 PM
I don't know why people are furious with Dell. I think they're doing the right thing. When I found a great deal at Fry's and they ran out of stock (it said when I ordered it that they were in stock), they just cancelled it on me and said they would not honor the price. Here Dell is offering to honor the price, even though they don't have more cards yet and don't know what they will cost, and you guys are dumping on them.
It's not like I'm a big Dell guy either. I don't own any Dell PC's (I build my own)... although I'm considering their Ubuntu laptop line if they can get some more options in there and better pricing.
Bottom line is that Dell cannot control when they get these cards. They are being shipped by MSI. MSI can't control it because they are probably waiting on chips from nVidia.
I don't see any reason to cancel the order with Dell until you find a better offer... I would hold onto it until such time as a better offer shows up, unless you need it for a Christmas gift, then I guess I could see paying 100 bucks more to get it fast.
You are kidding me, you obviously do not know much about supply and demand in the real world, Dell is a global company and should have processes in place to manage their demand planning for efficiently. They kept taking orders and keep filling their pockets with customers good earned money expecting to get their orders fulfilled in a reasonable timeframe. I only found out after I contacted them today at the day they are suppose to ship that they pushed back my ship date by over 30 days, 5, 10, 14 days maybe but over 30 days without any notice, I'm sorry that is not acceptable in a modern age with supply chain ERP systems and supposedly world class customer services.
Their demand planner should get the boot IMO and hopefully they learned some good lessons from this.
djrussell
12-13-07, 04:25 PM
i think what MRD is trying to say is that it's cool of dell to effectively give out "rain-checks" for this when most other companies would just say OOS or cancel your order. a little more communication on their end wouldn't hurt though especially for people who needed this quickly.
Exactly djrussel, they are going the extra mile.
Dell is not all knowing, they can't control it if somewhere upstream from them tells them that a shipment will be delayed. It seems they are communicating that to the customers as they learn it. That's the best customer service I can really imagine. I think it's damn cool of them to honor such a fantastic price when they could easily just cancel all the orders.
Makes me more likely to buy a Dell.
Brolloks
12-13-07, 04:37 PM
Exactly djrussel, they are going the extra mile.
Dell is not all knowing, they can't control it if somewhere upstream from them tells them that a shipment will be delayed. It seems they are communicating that to the customers as they learn it. That's the best customer service I can really imagine. I think it's damn cool of them to honor such a fantastic price when they could easily just cancel all the orders.
Makes me more likely to buy a Dell.
In a cut throat FMG segment that they operate in lack of efficient planning like this will cost them dearly, believe me, reputation is not something you can get back easily, once bitten twice shy as the saying goes...
It's not a lack of efficient planning, it's an upstream ****up that isn't their fault.
WildMonkey
12-13-07, 05:45 PM
Dell is to blame.
Very simple scenario, if you had a store and knew your capacity, let's say 1000 units (if you have a store and don't know what your capacity is you shouldn't be running a business) and you took pre-orders for this particular item and they started piling up.
Would you?
a) Stop talking orders at 1000
b) Take about 10-15% additional orders because some people do cancel
c) Just keep taking orders and see what happens
Guess what Dell did? You think they aren't to blame?
twEEkerAreUs
12-13-07, 05:48 PM
Haha well I decided to call up dell and wow what a joke, so far I've been transfered 5 TIMES NOW.......I'm waiting for the 5th to pick up now.
1. Helpful but said they had to transfer
2. Person could barely speak English and obviously didn't care at all transfer
3. Guy hacking up a lung transfer
4. Wrong transfer
5. Transfer
6. Hung up on guy, don't even want to deal with these ********.
I'm about this close to canceling the order just over phone service....I'm going to BB here and seeing if they have any BFG in stock with that 12% coupon. **** Dell
Dell is to blame.
Very simple scenario, if you had a store and knew your capacity, let's say 1000 units (if you have a store and don't know what your capacity is you shouldn't be running a business) and you took pre-orders for this particular item and they started piling up.
Would you?
a) Stop talking orders at 1000
b) Take about 10-15% additional orders because some people do cancel
c) Just keep taking orders and see what happens
Guess what Dell did? You think they aren't to blame?
What if your capacity is 1000 orders. You take orders but never hit 1000, say you get to 800. The next day, your supplier calls you up and tells you the 1000 units you had coming are now not coming because of a delay. Is that your fault? No.
Brolloks
12-13-07, 09:21 PM
Haha well I decided to call up dell and wow what a joke, so far I've been transfered 5 TIMES NOW.......I'm waiting for the 5th to pick up now.
1. Helpful but said they had to transfer
2. Person could barely speak English and obviously didn't care at all transfer
3. Guy hacking up a lung transfer
4. Wrong transfer
5. Transfer
6. Hung up on guy, don't even want to deal with these ********.
I'm about this close to canceling the order just over phone service....I'm going to BB here and seeing if they have any BFG in stock with that 12% coupon. **** Dell
Use the online chat function, much less frustrating, you won't get your card sooner but at least you can communicate without being transfered
WildMonkey
12-13-07, 10:25 PM
What if your capacity is 1000 orders. You take orders but never hit 1000, say you get to 800. The next day, your supplier calls you up and tells you the 1000 units you had coming are now not coming because of a delay. Is that your fault? No.
But that's not the case.
I spoke to a manager and he told me what they do is take the orders and THEN send the request to fill those orders.
Obviously they sent more than the supplier can handle.
twEEkerAreUs
12-13-07, 11:16 PM
Use the online chat function, much less frustrating, you won't get your card sooner but at least you can communicate without being transfered
Well I got through to chat faster then I thought, they are giving me over night shipping upgrade and I quote
12/17/07 3600 Units coming into stock. So hopefully that fills a bunch of ours.
Dell is on my serious black list. I ordered the MSI card back on 11/24. Three days ago I call to see what is going on with the order status since the site never updates. The Dell rep supposedly expedited my order. I get a phone call the next day from said rep to find out that the DELL REP SOMEHOW CANCELLED MY ORDER and changed it to another order number. In doing so, I dropped to the end of the pile and the order status shows a ship date of 2/20/2008, or basically never.
I would cancel it completely but I also have an XFX card eligible for the paypal 20% that is due to ship on the 19th and I managed to get them to offer me $25 compensation per order for the fiasco via a lengthy live chat Tuesday. The live chat rep just said sorry and that it won't happen again. I had to mention that I am half tempted to cancel both orders and bluntly suggest that Dell should compensate me in order to even get that. IF the XFX card ships, I'll push for the $25 back on it and then cancel the MSI. I wouldn't be surprised however, contrary to the live chat, if Dell refuses the $25 on the XFX card without waiting to receive the MSI card.
I have a BFG card due to arrive here tomorrow from Best Buy so I'll decide later what to do. I'll probably try a return/rebuy with the 10%/12% coupon Saturday. I can return the BFG until the end of Jan, so I figure I'll decide what to do if the XFX actually does show up.
I still can't believe that the Dell rep messed up and canceled my order. Some customer service. I'm just glad that if all else fails the one from Best Buy is on its way.
And if you guys find that "omg that's the one, mommy buy for me" graphics card at Best Buy, here is a coupon that voigts is referring to,
http://emailinfo.bestbuy.com/P/v3/HTMLCouponv3.asp?ci=50434&r=T1_CPN_50434&e=9318;926826;1219769859;1;02&a=1007
You guys are so impatient. For $100 off, I'd wait 3 months easy.
You guys are so impatient. For $100 off, I'd wait 3 months easy.
Then when you get your GPU 3 months later I'm sure new cards will be out and price will drop. Then you can be sad you wasted your time and $200.
Well I got through to chat faster then I thought, they are giving me over night shipping upgrade and I quote
12/17/07 3600 Units coming into stock. So hopefully that fills a bunch of ours.
I hope they are all the MSI brand as stated in the original deal. I already have a MSI 8800GT from New Egg (for my new PC - see sig). I then figured I would wait for Dell to come through so that I could put them in SLI. If they send an EVGA or XFX one, will I run into problems with a SLI setup with an MSI 8800GT?
You guys are so impatient. For $100 off, I'd wait 3 months easy.
I think you're alone on that one.
Then when you get your GPU 3 months later I'm sure new cards will be out and price will drop. Then you can be sad you wasted your time and $200.
If you wait 3 months and the price drops to 200 anyways, then you didn't lose anything... you had to wait 3 months, but you got your card way cheaper than everyone else. Now if I could find a deal where I could get the card at 200 today, I'd cancel my order with Dell, but I haven't seen anything else close. I've been watching Newegg, and the lowest I've seen for the 512mb versions is 280ish.
WonderingSoul
12-14-07, 08:43 PM
You guys are so impatient. For $100 off, I'd wait 3 months easy.
I second that...
I am still chugging away with my 7900GT not even volt modded. If I really wanted more juice I woulda vmodded or bought a new card.
Patience people!
twEEkerAreUs
12-14-07, 09:59 PM
I hope they are all the MSI brand as stated in the original deal. I already have a MSI 8800GT from New Egg (for my new PC - see sig). I then figured I would wait for Dell to come through so that I could put them in SLI. If they send an EVGA or XFX one, will I run into problems with a SLI setup with an MSI 8800GT?
No, all that matters is if it is the same GPU for SLI
See, I'm not the only one! Lol.
I'm still using a 6800GT. I'm planning a new build soon, but I'm waiting for the technology to get to where I want it pricewise. Stuff always goes down in price right after Christmas, and there is no particular reason I need it before.
If you wait 3 months and the price drops to 200 anyways, then you didn't lose anything... you had to wait 3 months, but you got your card way cheaper than everyone else. Now if I could find a deal where I could get the card at 200 today, I'd cancel my order with Dell, but I haven't seen anything else close. I've been watching Newegg, and the lowest I've seen for the 512mb versions is 280ish.
I went with the BFG card I ordered online to the store and they did the return/rebuy for me and even refunded the shipping cost. So $210 + tax. Not a bad deal as far as I'm concerned, and not worth waiting for some future date at which these go down more months from now. It is going to take a while before these are even in stock and readily available as they are staying sold out virtually everywhere.
210 is a good deal, plus it's a BFG, so you get a real double lifetime warranty, OC out of the box, and great customer service.
I'd jump on that too.
stereo555
12-15-07, 01:58 PM
210 is a good deal, plus it's a BFG, so you get a real double lifetime warranty, OC out of the box, and great customer service.
Oops (clarification) ... wrong company for "double lifetime warranty" ; thats XFX : http://www.xfxforce.com/web/support/showWarranty.jspa?regionId=1&productGenerationId=730964
BFG is lifetime for original purchaser : http://www.bfgtech.com/warranty.aspx
BFG is double lifetime now too I thought?
Early Monday morning OCF.
I'm SO crossing my fingers that this will be the day...
WonderingSoul
12-17-07, 05:26 AM
Early Monday morning OCF.
I'm SO crossing my fingers that this will be the day...
Same here man. I will be thinking about it all day at work :mad:
dealmaster
12-17-07, 06:50 AM
BFG is double lifetime now too I thought?
But they don't allow additional overclocking or the stock HSF to be replaced and the card to still be covered. EVGA is the way to go even if they're more expensive. I'll pay extra to have my card warranted if it gets damaged from excessive overclocking and have them still cover it if I slap a different heatsink on there. Oh, and step-up is great too.
Early Monday morning OCF.
I'm SO crossing my fingers that this will be the day...
I hope yours ships as well as the rest of you, good luck!
I unfortunately just received an email for Dell asking for consent to continue processing my order as it has now been delayed till December 26.
WildMonkey
12-17-07, 12:37 PM
Been reeding other forums, same deal all around. No shipments until end of month.
Just as I have posted before, they screwed up by taking too many orders and/or offering such a low price and thus are just going to delay orders until enough cancel to ship a relatively small batch.
stereo555
12-17-07, 01:02 PM
Well I just an email from Dell saying my card is delayed again , now till the 12/26th . (ordered early on 11/24)
Fiquires :mad: :bang head
Iam going to keep the order going , but looks like I'll be installing the BFG I grabbed from Bestbuy ( for $210) so I can sell my GTS/640mb . Maybe I'll use the MSI one to make a buck or two on ebay or something or do SLi ...god who knows at this point .
Just as I have posted before, they screwed up by taking too many orders and/or offering such a low price and thus are just going to delay orders until enough cancel to ship a relatively small batch.
At this point, with the shipping delayed till at least the day after x-mas, AND them now asking for "our consent to continue processing the order", it's kind of difficult to argue against this point.
WonderingSoul
12-17-07, 01:25 PM
Awesome.... More delays until the 26th.
Looks like I am going to work on getting something else from Dell now (already got $20 off and free overnight). This is still rediculous.
WildMonkey
12-17-07, 01:30 PM
Awesome.... More delays until the 26th.
Looks like I am going to work on getting something else from Dell now (already got $20 off and free overnight). This is still rediculous.
I've noticed that they keep offering discounts and free overnight shipping.
I complained 2 weeks back and they gave me overnight without much of a hassle.
That's when I got worried, hell they can offer you a free card that doesn't mean they'll actually do it.
Point is that I don't think they will ship anything until late Jan or sometime in Feb. Seems far fetched? Just watch them inch their way to those dates.
WonderingSoul
12-17-07, 01:33 PM
I've noticed that they keep offering discounts and free overnight shipping.
I complained 2 weeks back and they gave me overnight without much of a hassle.
That's when I got worried, hell they can offer you a free card that doesn't mean they'll actually do it.
Point is that I don't think they will ship anything until late Jan or sometime in Feb. Seems far fetched? Just watch them inch their way to those dates.
They can try all they like. I have the power of what every common buyer has, The Better Business Bureau. If they didn't want to sell that many cards at that price then they shoulda cancelled orders, not screw everyone by pushing dates back.
WildMonkey
12-17-07, 01:51 PM
They can try all they like. I have the power of what every common buyer has, The Better Business Bureau. If they didn't want to sell that many cards at that price then they shoulda cancelled orders, not screw everyone by pushing dates back.
Well you have already been delayed twice, doesn't that constitute a call to the BBB?
Tell us how it goes. I can't call yet since my ship date is the 19th, and I haven't received another notice, although I will definitely get one.
Im still looking for a better deal, and I havent found it. With no pressing need to upgrade I dont mind wating to see if dell comes through.
Its not like i will be charged for a card if i do not get one, so im going to wait it out.
WonderingSoul
12-17-07, 04:05 PM
Well you have already been delayed twice, doesn't that constitute a call to the BBB?
Tell us how it goes. I can't call yet since my ship date is the 19th, and I haven't received another notice, although I will definitely get one.
Personally I think it does. If they would have told me that my order was going to be delayed the FIRST time to the 26th I probably would have cancelled then, but to only delay TWICE? come on....
Dell needs to take care their buyers better.
Just got off the phone with MSI sales and the rep told me that the order is being processed right now and will be shipping out to Dell shortly. I urge you guys to enjoy your Christmas and not worry about these cards or canceling your order.
DO NOT LISTEN TO DELL ANYMORE, THEY TOLD ME THE CARD WAS DISCONTINUED. Call MSI if you have any questions instead!!
WonderingSoul
12-17-07, 06:51 PM
Thanks for the info hung. I talked to Dell earlier, the best they can offer me is $25.00 off... Which is squat compared to the $20.00 they already promised me.
Thanks for the info hung. I talked to Dell earlier, the best they can offer me is $25.00 off... Which is squat compared to the $20.00 they already promised me.
Yeah, same here. At least they're compensating us for it.
WildMonkey
12-17-07, 08:36 PM
Just got off the phone with MSI sales and the rep told me that the order is being processed right now and will be shipping out to Dell shortly. I urge you guys to enjoy your Christmas and not worry about these cards or canceling your order.
DO NOT LISTEN TO DELL ANYMORE, THEY TOLD ME THE CARD WAS DISCONTINUED. Call MSI if you have any questions instead!!
Sounds like more BS to me. What manufacturing plant doesn't know what or how many items they are producing and shipping to?
"We don't know what we have, how many, or when we are shipping them, but I have a feeling it's soon"
Are you serious?
I'm very sure that Dell already has a small batch on hand and is just waiting on enough canceled orders to send them, otherwise they have to send us ALL cards. Which I bet my bottom dollar they won't.
The main point was that there was a shortage on parts. Period. Then Dell decides to oversell on the card without consulting with sales. Then with inventory control not set in their system they get a ton of orders. They contact MSI at which point is out of stock. MSI is scrambling to produce more units, but again, there's a shortage on parts. I'm sure that the first shipment that Dell gets will not fulfill every single order they have on hold. That's why some people are getting ETA dates of next January and such. Depending on when you ordered, you will be served accordingly. They didn't indicate how many they were shipping to Dell, but like I said, It's not gonna be enough. Dell will keep making purchase orders to MSI until they ship out all the orders or enough people cancel em.
Just got off the phone with MSI sales and the rep told me that the order is being processed right now and will be shipping out to Dell shortly. I urge you guys to enjoy your Christmas and not worry about these cards or canceling your order.
DO NOT LISTEN TO DELL ANYMORE, THEY TOLD ME THE CARD WAS DISCONTINUED. Call MSI if you have any questions instead!!
I had a long conversation with several sales and CSRs at Dell today--along with lots of hold time in-between...
I called first to confirm that I wanted the order to continue. Then I was transferred to a CSR in order to see if I could get some compensation for the second delay (I haven't bothered to call before as Dell has been keeping me updated via automated e-mails notifying me of the delays.) The first CSR told me that this card was 'delisted' and that MSI was not producing this card any longer and that this card would not likely show up. He suggested that I cancel the order and he would transfer me to sales where I could order an equivalent card for the same price. I told him in no uncertain terms that he was NOT to cancel the order until AFTER such time that I could CONFIRM that I could order an equivalent card at the same price.
I finally got to speak with a sales person who said that the didn't have an equivalent card at the moment, but that (after another hold) when checking my order, explained that the original order WOULD be shipped, but later than 12/26, as stated in my e-mail. I would likely receive my card in the first couple of weeks of January, 2008. Furthermore, she also noted that Dell was getting a shipment of these cards TODAY (12/17), but evidently not enough to fill all the back orders. Again, I asked about compensation and I was once more transferred to customer service.
Well, the new CSR had a little different story to tell. The MSI card is indeed 'delisted' and has been discontinued by MSI, but MSI will still be shipping enough cards to fill all the backorders. Dell was, indeed, receiving a shipment of these cards today, but it wasn't enough to fill all the backorders. However, he did say that these would be shipped out to customers sooner than 12/16 and it was possible that my order might be among them depending upon where I was in the queue. He had no way to know where any particular order was on the priority list and would not even speculate (understandable). However, he said that MSI would be able to fill all the orders placed and that at this time, I should expect my card to be shipped on the date stated in the e-mail (12/26).
Finally, he was able to get authorization for a $25 coupon good for any future Dell purchase or next day shipping, but not both. I chose the coupon and let it go at that.
I'm guessing that MSI is discontinuing this PARTICULAR card in lieu of what would be essentially the same card with the updated cooler (with the bigger, quieter fan). I'll speculate that in the confusion of the cooler change, MSI has probably assigned a new model number to the cards with the new cooler and might have prematurely ended production of cards with the original cooler, or just ran out of the old cooler and had to wait until they could get the new version before resuming production. It will be interesting to see if Dell ends fulfilling all the orders with cards that have the original cooler or if they will receive some of the cards with the updated coolers in order to make good on all the orders.
I will say that all the people I spoke with were congenial if somewhat misinformed and/or confused and tentative in their explanations. Personally, I have no reason to cancel my order as I'm planning on putting this in a Penryn system when those chips become available--so I'm not exactly in a big hurry to get the card in my hands immediately.
I'm not sure if it makes sense to blame any one company in particular here. After all, MSI might have told Dell that they could get them as many cards as they could sell. Also, nVidia might have promised MSI more G92 chips than they could actually make. The manufacturer of the cooling solution (which may or may not be outsourced) might not have come through with the number of units they were supposed to produce, either. There just may be too many reasons a product could be backordered to pin it all on one company.
"Patience, my young Padawan!"
WildMonkey
12-17-07, 10:19 PM
It's been almost a month!
I wonder if they would be so courteous, patient and understanding if I were the one that owed them something?
I'm not sure if it makes sense to blame any one company in particular here. After all, MSI might have told Dell that they could get them as many cards as they could sell. Also, nVidia might have promised MSI more G92 chips than they could actually make. The manufacturer of the cooling solution (which may or may not be outsourced) might not have come through with the number of units they were supposed to produce, either. There just may be too many reasons a product could be backordered to pin it all on one company.That's exactly how I feel. We don't know where along the line the problem really was. Maybe Dell promised more than MSI promised them, but maybe not. There's just no way to really know.
The best on Newegg at the moment is 290... so I'd definitely hang onto a 210 if I had one until such time as I found something better... and I'd probably keep squeezing Dell for more discounts too each time they delay.
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