View Full Version : Gigabyte P35-DS3R....I love it
Hey all!
EDIT: this seems to have turned into the P35(C)-DS3(R/L/P *and any others*) thread so please go ahead and talk about all of em.:D
I got my Gigabyte P35-DS3R in the post earlier today. Got it out this eve. Hooked it up and after about 25mins of tinkering i got this to boot into windows :D.
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=274209
http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/274209.png
I highly doubt that its stable and there is a very long way to go with the RAM timings (left on auto) but im very happy with the board seeing as iv come from an NF4 board that tops out at 330FSB lol.
Im too scared to stress test as its using a POS psu cos the one in my sig is being RMAed. I will stress test when it comes back. Wont rele be turning it on again til PSU comes back just in case.
w2richwood
11-27-07, 03:22 PM
good luck and happy clocking
Rich
good luck and happy clocking
Rich
thank you
JamesXP
11-27-07, 04:07 PM
Guess all that chip needed was a little P35 loving? get it new?
hypertek
11-27-07, 04:13 PM
i just got one too!! swapped my 965 S3 for it.. so far soo good.. but i dont have my watercooling on this yet since im testing a new setup to go on soon... but im at 400fsb - E6400 running at 3.2 on stock intel heatsink
Guess all that chip needed was a little P35 loving? get it new?
it certainly did :D
i got the board brand new off ebay....this guy bought it but didnt need it.
the chip was again off ebay but not new.....was never OCed tho.
i just got one too!! swapped my 965 S3 for it.. so far soo good.. but i dont have my watercooling on this yet since im testing a new setup to go on soon... but im at 400fsb - E6400 running at 3.2 on stock intel heatsink
niiiiice.....im in the process of building a WCing setup...hopefully should have all the parts by xmas. lets see if that 500FSB wall will come tumbling down.
This review certainly bodes well for when i WC it. :D:D:D:D:D
http://sg.vr-zone.com/articles/Gigabyte_P35-DS3R_Intel_Bearlake_Review/4966-8.html
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/gigap35ds3/20.jpg
NedClocker
11-27-07, 04:55 PM
I just got the Gigabyte DS3L. I hope it's as good as the DS3R.
I just got the Gigabyte DS3L. I hope it's as good as the DS3R.
whats the diff? the R stands for raid methinks...what does the L stand for?
The only part of the board I wasnt happy with was the way the northbridge cooler was connected, kinda loose and flimsy spring pins for such a large sink.
I like that board becasue of the 3pin cpu fan control. Also it works well.
NedClocker
11-27-07, 08:39 PM
whats the diff? the R stands for raid methinks...what does the L stand for?
L would be for Lack of raid, then. lol :) I'll have to check on that!
The only part of the board I wasnt happy with was the way the northbridge cooler was connected, kinda loose and flimsy spring pins for such a large sink.
yeah i was slightly concerned bout tht but it seems to be working ok. if all goes well ill be WCing it soon anyway.
L would be for Lack of raid, then. lol :) I'll have to check on that!
aha....love it if that was actually it
tdotcbc84
12-02-07, 07:50 PM
was wondering what was the BEST BIOS for the DS3R ?
was wondering what was the BEST BIOS for the DS3R ?
im not sure yet as i have only tested the one that comes with the board....when i get my PSU back from RMA i will test out the latest and see if i can get any getter OC's
was wondering what was the BEST BIOS for the DS3R ?
I heard that the F5 was best for the vdroop and HEAVY FSB OC'ing, options and general stabilities improve as you go higher... nothing has knocked me off my chair in 6, 7 or 8.
I have gone with the newer bios and not the high OC route.
I heard that the F5 was best for the vdroop and HEAVY FSB OC'ing, options and general stabilities improve as you go higher... nothing has knocked me off my chair in 6, 7 or 8.
I have gone with the newer bios and not the high OC route.
Interesting...ill be sure to try that one out.
Whats the highest fsb you can get? not necessarily stable.
thisisapen
12-03-07, 06:47 PM
Uh..
What is with the insane Rated FSB in this thread? anything past 1600Mhz/410Mhz FSB for me just craps my system out completey.
My northbridge is hot, very, and I've disabled everything I am not using through the BIOS. I am tempted to increase the MCM/FSB voltage to hit a higher FSB but since it's already running very hot right now, I really, really doubt the extra voltage is going to help any.
Also can anyone familiar with the BIOS explain this issue (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=537714) to me? It's annoying.
Uh..
What is with the insane Rated FSB in this thread? anything past 1600Mhz/410Mhz FSB for me just craps my system out completey.
My northbridge is hot, very, and I've disabled everything I am not using through the BIOS. I am tempted to increase the MCM/FSB voltage to hit a higher FSB but since it's already running very hot right now, I really, really doubt the extra voltage is going to help any.
Also can anyone familiar with the BIOS explain this issue (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=537714) to me? It's annoying.
for a start your running a quad which puts a lot of strain on the NB so that will decrease the OC.
what multi are you running atm and can you lower the multi to get higher FSB? maybe try 7 cos thats what im using.
thisisapen
12-04-07, 10:49 AM
for a start your running a quad which puts a lot of strain on the NB so that will decrease the OC.
what multi are you running atm and can you lower the multi to get higher FSB? maybe try 7 cos thats what im using.
I've been able to hit about 430FSB before it completey screws up, at about 420 it's somewhat stable. Did you increase your MCH/FSB voltage at all? I've tried at stock. I suppose I'll give 7* another try and try increasing the voltage +0.1
oh and I decided to rip apart my old ABIT NF7 for it's northbridge fan.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8717/sweeeeeeeet5bh2.jpg
It's a 2 pin fan connected to a 3 pin fan socket, works fine though. that isn't going to cause me issues is it?
I've been able to hit about 430FSB before it completey screws up, at about 420 it's somewhat stable. Did you increase your MCH/FSB voltage at all? I've tried at stock. I suppose I'll give 7* another try and try increasing the voltage +0.1
oh and I decided to rip apart my old ABIT NF7 for it's northbridge fan.
I set the fsb and nb to +0.3 but i was only running it for a few mins to get the screeny so temps werent rele an issue.
Hopefully ill get it stable somewhere near 490 with water.
So annoyed atm that i cant do anything with it...blooming PSU RMA
eye of the hawk
12-04-07, 10:57 AM
Uh..
What is with the insane Rated FSB in this thread? anything past 1600Mhz/410Mhz FSB for me just craps my system out completey.
My northbridge is hot, very, and I've disabled everything I am not using through the BIOS. I am tempted to increase the MCM/FSB voltage to hit a higher FSB but since it's already running very hot right now, I really, really doubt the extra voltage is going to help any.
Also can anyone familiar with the BIOS explain this issue (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=537714) to me? It's annoying.
You're ram is only rated for 400mhz...so, that may be a place to start ;-)
eye of the hawk
12-04-07, 10:58 AM
It's a 2 pin fan connected to a 3 pin fan socket, works fine though. that isn't going to cause me issues is it?
As far as i know, that third pin is just to monitor RPM.
You're ram is only rated for 400mhz...so, that may be a place to start ;-)
gd point...as his sig it says its running at 1066....maybe set the ratio to 2.
As far as i know, that third pin is just to monitor RPM.
very true...it should be fine
thisisapen
12-04-07, 11:22 AM
As far as i know, that third pin is just to monitor RPM.
Awesome :)
gd point...as his sig it says its running at 1066....maybe set the ratio to 2.
That's the thing..
I can run the ram at 3.0/2:3 ratio at 1068Mhz, 5-5-5-18, but I see no increase in performance in memory benchmarks, which I've tried to explain here (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=537714), I'm not 100% it's configured correctly but surely the memory IS at that speed to have it displayed in the BIOS & CPU-Z, and to even boot up.
However if I stay at 2.0/1:1 and take my CPU to 400*8 (3.2Ghz), 800Mhz DDR at 4-4-4-15 I get stability issues, which become apprant within an hour of usage (crashing, locking up, BSOD shutting down etc), My is at vDIMM at 2.2v (coverd by warranty) and increasing the CPU voltage doesn't seem to help any as it boots at 1.3v at 2.8ghz, yet crashes eventually at 3.2Ghz at 1.425v. Even at 1.425v (about 1.380v according to CPU-Z) it still isn't 100% stable. Would increasing the northbridge and/or FSB voltage by +0.1v help me with stability? then I may be able to lower my CPU voltage a tad. I'm certain I've tried this with no success but I'll just ask.
I've tried lowering the multi (7*) and increasing the FSB too, but after about 420 Bus Speed it gets extremely unstable. The only way I could hit 1068Mhz memory was by setting the Bus Speed to something like 356Mhz and using a 3.0/2:3 ratio. It was a bit pointless but surely that shows the memory IS capable of hitting that speed, right?
Hm, here are some BIOS screenshots, as my computer is now. Which seems unstable by way Windows Vista booted up (it shows the password box before anything else, which is only does when it's unstable, atleast from what I've witnessed after a week of ****ing around)
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8468/supbioshw8.jpg
Disabled all the stuff I don't need/use
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8672/supbios2th4.jpg
Memory settings
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1596/supbios3wd8.jpg
Voltages
Any ideas? I am sure it's set up correctly. I get the feeling I am missing something quite obvious and that I should know.
I think you should try upping the nb voltage to +0.3 and putting a fatoff fan near it just to see temporarily if that is the issue....if it is then you can buy a new hs for the nb and then up the voltages permanent.
If not then try upping some of the other voltages.try n up the mch and fsb voltages
thisisapen
12-04-07, 12:14 PM
I think you should try upping the nb voltage to +0.3 and putting a fatoff fan near it just to see temporarily if that is the issue....if it is then you can buy a new hs for the nb and then up the voltages permanent.
If not then try upping some of the other voltages.try n up the mch and fsb voltages
Tried it..
450*7 at +0.2 NORTHBRIDGE/0.2 FSB/0.4 DIMM.. this was at 1:1, so 900Mhz memory, 5-5-5-18 timings.
it booted up, crashed very shortly after. Took it to +0.3.. got just into windows and crashed, tried again to the same result. Then tried to fix it and it crashed while in the BIOS, which worried me, though I guess it's fine since I was able to get back into it, change it to 400*6, 2.8Ghz, 1.325v, which it seems more than happy at.
The only voltage I haven't touched is the PCI-E, and I've kept the PCI-E Mhz at 100/101, not AUTO.
Tried it..
450*7 at +0.2 NORTHBRIDGE/0.2 FSB/0.4 DIMM.. this was at 1:1, so 900Mhz memory, 5-5-5-18 timings.
it booted up, crashed very shortly after. Took it to +0.3.. got just into windows and crashed, tried again to the same result. Then tried to fix it and it crashed while in the BIOS, which worried me, though I guess it's fine since I was able to get back into it, change it to 400*6, 2.8Ghz, 1.325v, which it seems more than happy at.
The only voltage I haven't touched is the PCI-E, and I've kept the PCI-E Mhz at 100/101, not AUTO.
hmmm...I cant see any reason to up the PCI-e volts but its worth a little try just to see what happens.
Also try more volts on the cpu...maybe go up to 1.55 if ur feeling brave....obviosly if temps get to high then down them...but if its just temporary to see what you can get it should be ok.
thisisapen
12-04-07, 01:02 PM
hmmm...I cant see any reason to up the PCI-e volts but its worth a little try just to see what happens.
Also try more volts on the cpu...maybe go up to 1.55 if ur feeling brave....obviosly if temps get to high then down them...but if its just temporary to see what you can get it should be ok.
I'll touch on 1.5v, considering 2.8Ghz runs fine at 1.325v, increasing by a whole 0.2 seems huge for 400 more Mhz. Sorry to hijack this thread with "MY PROBLEM!" also, but I guess this is the DS3R thread and I wanted fellow users to grace me as I wept with dismay :(
I'll touch on 1.5v, considering 2.8Ghz runs fine at 1.325v, increasing by a whole 0.2 seems huge for 400 more Mhz. Sorry to hijack this thread with "MY PROBLEM!" also, but I guess this is the DS3R thread and I wanted fellow users to grace me as I wept with dismay :(
It is a lot for 400Mhz but i was just trying to find out if any of the voltages were holding you back. Doesnt look like they really are. :( looks like its cos your running a quad...still its a pretty nice speed for a quad.
This is the P35(C)-DS3(R/L/P *and any others*) thread so its good that you put your problem in here...makes it easier for people to find for reference.
I will be doing a lot of testing with mine when i get my PSU back which should be some time next week so watch out! lol
thisisapen
12-04-07, 01:53 PM
It is a lot for 400Mhz but i was just trying to find out if any of the voltages were holding you back. Doesnt look like they really are. :( looks like its cos your running a quad...still its a pretty nice speed for a quad.
This is the P35(C)-DS3(R/L/P *and any others*) thread so its good that you put your problem in here...makes it easier for people to find for reference.
I will be doing a lot of testing with mine when i get my PSU back which should be some time next week so watch out! lol
Fustrasting. My PSU is more than enough for the task, Corsair HX620W..
I'll edit this post to give my findings. I just hope it is because it's a quad/I'm doing somethnig wrong, and not that I have a slightly bad motherboard :/ Really can't be doing with RMAing it.
I atleast want to get to 3.2Ghz at 1:1 and have it 100% stable. I've been messing around with this system for a week. I orderd an Accelero S1 with TurboModule for my 8800GT, plan to volt mod that and get it to about 740Mhz core without issue, and have it much quieter to boot. Once I get my core voltage and memory stable I'll be happy as fook with my system.
Fustrasting. My PSU is more than enough for the task, Corsair HX620W..
I'll edit this post to give my findings. I just hope it is because it's a quad/I'm doing somethnig wrong, and not that I have a slightly bad motherboard :/ Really can't be doing with RMAing it.
I atleast want to get to 3.2Ghz at 1:1 and have it 100% stable. I've been messing around with this system for a week. I orderd an Accelero S1 with TurboModule for my 8800GT, plan to volt mod that and get it to about 740Mhz core without issue, and have it much quieter to boot. Once I get my core voltage and memory stable I'll be happy as fook with my system.
yeah...i feel ur pain.
I doubt uv got a bad board. Just try changing every setting you can find lol. burrr RMAing is such a pain.
3.2 Should be gettable easily with this mobo. although i dont know how it handles quads so....
Sounds like ur gunna have fun with your 8800GT...im thinking of getting one of them after xmas...not sure if ill get a 512 or 256....the 256 price is looking pretty nice from where i am looking lol.
thisisapen
12-04-07, 03:09 PM
3.2 Should be gettable easily with this mobo. although i dont know how it handles quads so....
Sounds like ur gunna have fun with your 8800GT...im thinking of getting one of them after xmas...not sure if ill get a 512 or 256....the 256 price is looking pretty nice from where i am looking lol.
Depends if you're upgrading to one of the new 9*** come March, or Feb if you're rich. I'd personally recommend the 512MB, apparently DELL were selling them for $235 or something. I paid £187 for my card, with my cooling kit I'd have paid just over $400 for my entire card.
Anyway.. thanks to 3oh6 in my thread regarding memory (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5370651) I've got my system RAM running at a stupidly fast speed to what it was running at before. Plus the CPU voltage is down to 1.3750, I could do lower but I wanted to make sure I could atleast get into Windows Vista.
I'd recommend giving his lengthy replies a read since he talks about our board, sort of.
Edit; reread what I wrote and it came across as a tweaking guide, sorry. He just explains "Performance Levels" which helped me go from 6400mb/sec READ on my RAM to 8000mb/sec READ.
Depends if you're upgrading to one of the new 9*** come March, or Feb if you're rich. I'd personally recommend the 512MB, apparently DELL were selling them for $235 or something. I paid £187 for my card, with my cooling kit I'd have paid just over $400 for my entire card.
Anyway.. thanks to 3oh6 in my thread regarding memory (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?p=5370651) I've got my system running at a stupidly fast speed to what it was running at before. Plus the CPU voltage is down to 1.3750, I could do lower but I wanted to make sure I could atleast get into Windows Vista.
I'd recommend giving his lengthy replies a read since he talks about our board, sort of.
Sadly im not rich enough to get a 9xxx series...god i wish i was. I really want to get the 512 but its just the money thats the issue...maybe ill just have to keep it a bit longer than i would the 256 and make it last its worth.
Will have a read of tht thread now thnks.
hypertek
12-05-07, 06:10 PM
hey maybe you guys can help me out? i replaced the board in my sig with with this.. I know my e6400 is capable of 3.6 since it ran perfectly on my s3.. I recently lapped my cpu too in hopes to hit 3.8.
but more often now, my system will not boot when i go to turn it on, sometimes it does that double boot and restarts at defualt.. Id rock the cpu fsb around 450, ive tried the pci fsb to 102-105 tried those, tried upping the voltage on the vmem, pci, and the northbridge and tried the cpu at 1.55v and sometimes it would boot great after setting that, but if i turn teh computer off, and come back later and try to boot it, it will have the problem and have to reset to default. So i know the board is capable of handling this but for some reason it is not...
I got this board at frys, it was a open box item, should i get another one? RMA? or throw my p965 S3 back in ?
hey maybe you guys can help me out? i replaced the board in my sig with with this.. I know my e6400 is capable of 3.6 since it ran perfectly on my s3.. I recently lapped my cpu too in hopes to hit 3.8.
but more often now, my system will not boot when i go to turn it on, sometimes it does that double boot and restarts at defualt.. Id rock the cpu fsb around 450, ive tried the pci fsb to 102-105 tried those, tried upping the voltage on the vmem, pci, and the northbridge and tried the cpu at 1.55v and sometimes it would boot great after setting that, but if i turn teh computer off, and come back later and try to boot it, it will have the problem and have to reset to default. So i know the board is capable of handling this but for some reason it is not...
I got this board at frys, it was a open box item, should i get another one? RMA? or throw my p965 S3 back in ?
Hmm...that really doesnt sound good....is it completely stable when it works? (like 8 hours orthos)
Which BIOS are you running?
hypertek
12-05-07, 07:41 PM
ive tried f4, f5,f8,f9...
im too lazy to run orthos for 8hours but it runs for a good few minutes and even gamed on it..
my ram sinks came in today too so i wanna setup my 8800gt on watercool.. debating if i should swap back to my s3 and try to get this ds3r RMA or see if i can swap it at frys since it should be withn exchange limit
it seems like RMA is the best idea cos i cant think of anything that would give random crashes. :(
thisisapen
12-06-07, 03:37 AM
Meh..
just hit 8 hours of PRIME95.. almost exact, give or take a few minute (though one went on for another 2 hours) and I got an error, one core went down, and another followed.
not sure if this is 99% stable because that's an awful long time.. or are we looking for 100% running time with PRIME95? As in 24hour+
I'm gonna bump my vcore by a notch regardless and cross my fingers.
Meh..
just hit 8 hours of PRIME95.. almost exact, give or take a few minute (though one went on for another 2 hours) and I got an error, one core went down, and another followed.
not sure if this is 99% stable because that's an awful long time.. or are we looking for 100% running time with PRIME95? As in 24hour+
I'm gonna bump my vcore by a notch regardless and cross my fingers.
It depends on how long ur gunna run it for in one go.....if its gunna be on 24/7 then it needs to be 100%.
I personally dont run 24/7 as my comp is right next to my bed and there is no way im getting to sleep with a few 100+cfm fans on,lol. I tend to run it when im awake so maybe 10hours a day on ave. I like mine to be 8 hours stable...i have no need for it being 24+ hours stable.
JamesXP
12-06-07, 09:44 AM
Memtest86+
thisisapen
12-06-07, 03:57 PM
Memtest86+
Doesn't seem to work and I have no idea why. I burnt it using two drives, one in a laptop, one on this computer. It'll say "loading...." the drive will spin up then nothing.
I've disabled legacy support and stuff in the BIOS, any idea what could cause this?
Edit; also for you overclockers using this board, is it normal to increase your northbridge and FSB voltage by +0.2 or even +0.3? I havent read any guide that even hints towards needing to increase these, yet going up to 1.5v doesn't help my CPU stay stable, and my RAM isn't overclocked at all.
Sweet, glad you're having nice results with it. I'm going to pick up the P35-DS3L within the next couple weeks, by xmas and hope I have as good results as you do :D
Man, I max out at 420 fsb. Maybe its my chip, since the stock vcore is 1.35:(
hypertek
12-06-07, 08:14 PM
hey guys i swapped my p965 s3 back in and it just seems to be more stable, rocking 463x8 right now, jus a hair under 3.7 and rock solid stable.... Im thinkin the ds3r was a dud.. ill see about an RMA.. otherwise my S3 is more then satisfying..
thisisapen
12-06-07, 08:14 PM
Man, I max out at 420 fsb. Maybe its my chip, since the stock vcore is 1.35:(
I've got the exact same problem.
Also this board/CPU/RAM is ****ing me off no end. At the moment I'm at 1.4v CPU in the BIOS, which apparently is being read at 1.29/1.3v (fluxuates) by CPU-Z, yet it doesn't change when I increase the voltage by small amounts (0.25ish) yet the tempatures do.
So I whack my RAM to 2.1, since it isn't overclocked and is running complete stock (PC2-6400/800Mhz), my FSB and Northbridge to +0.2 and yeah, my CPU to 1.4v for 3.2Ghz (8*400), yet PRIME85 STILL won't run stable.
I've booted up into windows and ran memory tests with this RAM running at 1050+Mhz, 5-5-5-18, so I am certain it isn't the RAM, and I can't believe I'd need more FSB/Northbridge as I'm only at 400FSB.
Only idea is that it's the CPU but that seems to be fine at 2.8Ghz at about 1.3v in the BIOS
:bang head
I suppose I need to re-go over each part again to find out which is weak.. after I pump the CPU voltage to 1.45v.
edit; According to CPU-Z I'm at 1.325v, looking around online they're people hitting 3.6Ghz stable using 1.35v :/ I don't really want to push it past this as I'm hitting 65C full load pretty easily. Lord help me if I try to hit 3.6Ghz ever.
edit again; Same things happening at 2.8Ghz too. With about 1.3v which is more than enough, same +0.4v DDR, +0.2v Northbridge/FSB
I need to try to burn MEMTEST for the fourth time I guess.
Blazing fire
12-07-07, 01:13 AM
This review certainly bodes well for when i WC it. :D:D:D:D:D
http://sg.vr-zone.com/articles/Gigabyte_P35-DS3R_Intel_Bearlake_Review/4966-8.html
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/gigap35ds3/20.jpg
Wow, 1.2v at 4ghz. Seams like quads clock better than duo. I thought it was the other way around.
Blazing fire
12-07-07, 01:15 AM
Meh..
just hit 8 hours of PRIME95.. almost exact, give or take a few minute (though one went on for another 2 hours) and I got an error, one core went down, and another followed.
not sure if this is 99% stable because that's an awful long time.. or are we looking for 100% running time with PRIME95? As in 24hour+
I'm gonna bump my vcore by a notch regardless and cross my fingers.
You better! I got errors at 9th hour, drop fsb by 2, 11th hour error. Running 24 hours now.
Blazing fire
12-07-07, 01:18 AM
I've got the exact same problem.
Also this board/CPU/RAM is ****ing me off no end. At the moment I'm at 1.4v CPU in the BIOS, which apparently is being read at 1.29/1.3v (fluxuates) by CPU-Z, yet it doesn't change when I increase the voltage by small amounts (0.25ish) yet the tempatures do.
So I whack my RAM to 2.1, since it isn't overclocked and is running complete stock (PC2-6400/800Mhz), my FSB and Northbridge to +0.2 and yeah, my CPU to 1.4v for 3.2Ghz (8*400), yet PRIME85 STILL won't run stable.
I've booted up into windows and ran memory tests with this RAM running at 1050+Mhz, 5-5-5-18, so I am certain it isn't the RAM, and I can't believe I'd need more FSB/Northbridge as I'm only at 400FSB.
Only idea is that it's the CPU but that seems to be fine at 2.8Ghz at about 1.3v in the BIOS
:bang head
I suppose I need to re-go over each part again to find out which is weak.. after I pump the CPU voltage to 1.45v.
edit; According to CPU-Z I'm at 1.325v, looking around online they're people hitting 3.6Ghz stable using 1.35v :/ I don't really want to push it past this as I'm hitting 65C full load pretty easily. Lord help me if I try to hit 3.6Ghz ever.
edit again; Same things happening at 2.8Ghz too. With about 1.3v which is more than enough, same +0.4v DDR, +0.2v Northbridge/FSB
I need to try to burn MEMTEST for the fourth time I guess.
Isn't vcore not linear to the speed of the CPU?
Isn't vcore not linear to the speed of the CPU?
very true....usually you can get the best out of the chip upto 1.5v and anything above that doesnt really warrant the heat unless you can cool it very well. (water or extreme)
Wow, 1.2v at 4ghz. Seams like quads clock better than duo. I thought it was the other way around.
Its a dual...look at the cores. I dont see how it shows 1.2v in cpuz....it must be wrong...i swear i read it was using 1.6.
Man, I max out at 420 fsb. Maybe its my chip, since the stock vcore is 1.35:(
Interesting to see that some of you are hitting FSB walls at only 420....have you tried +0.3v? thats what i set mine to to get 490.btw the 490 that i got i did not stress test at all so its probably unstable making it an unrealistic figure...i just got into windows and cpuz'd it then restarted.
After long talks with my PSU vendor i should be getting a new one mid next week so i will be testing my rig thoroughly and bringing back any results i find.
I've got the exact same problem.
Also this board/CPU/RAM is ****ing me off no end. At the moment I'm at 1.4v CPU in the BIOS, which apparently is being read at 1.29/1.3v (fluxuates) by CPU-Z, yet it doesn't change when I increase the voltage by small amounts (0.25ish) yet the tempatures do.
Don't use CPU-Z to check voltage, it is way off. Though you are right this board has some vdroop issues, hence why this board isn't too good for quads. IIRC, my board droops around 0.07 volts or so under load at stock speed and vcore. We need a vdroop mod, but I haven't seen one that works.
Interesting to see that some of you are hitting FSB walls at only 420....have you tried +0.3v? thats what i set mine to to get 490.btw the 490 that i got i did not stress test at all so its probably unstable making it an unrealistic figure...i just got into windows and cpuz'd it then restarted.
I've got FSB and NB voltage set to 0.3. One of the problems I noticed is a 19-bot practice server in CS:Source runs perfectly fine at 430 fsb, but when I play online it locks up within 5 minutes. I dunno how to remedy this, and I've been a bit busy with the Orange Box and school winding down.
Don't use CPU-Z to check voltage, it is way off. Though you are right this board has some vdroop issues, hence why this board isn't too good for quads. IIRC, my board droops around 0.07 volts or so under load at stock speed and vcore. We need a vdroop mod, but I haven't seen one that works.
Iv seen some volt mods around for this board. ill see if i can find em again n post some linkies
Found one:
Now, there are 2 mods you can do. If you're loading up the CPU heavy with voltage and high speeds, and if you notice that the voltage swings between idle and load is quite big, then you may consider the VDroop mod. Pencil the SMD capacitor seen below to reduce the droop. Alternatively, you can solder on a 500K ohms Variable resistor across the 2 points shown. Set at Max 500K ohms, Decrease resistance until you find very little droop in VCore. .
http://resources.vr-zone.com.sg/Shamino/gigap35ds3/28.jpg
I may try the pencil mod if i find that mine as a large vdroop
Another thing to consider is the PCI-e speed....apparently overclocks are better if its set to auto, and the pci-e voltage...maybe try upping that if your one of the ones stuck at 420-430.
thisisapen
12-07-07, 12:39 PM
So apparently all my overclocking stability issues have came from one place..
a dodgy stick of 2GB RAM. I got the same error twice while testing in dual channel, so I took out a stick and let it run, and got an error with exactly HALF the MB value of the error while in dual channel.
I'm running with only one stick of 2GB at the moment which is painful but atleast it works, I hope.
I also reaised I had to set my drive to IDE because it was set as AHCI as it's a SATA DVD burner, otherwise MEMTEST refused to run.
So apparently all my overclocking stability issues have came from one place..
a dodgy stick of 2GB RAM. I got the same error twice while testing in dual channel, so I took out a stick and let it run, and got an error with exactly HALF the MB value of the error while in dual channel.
I'm running with only one stick of 2GB at the moment which is painful but atleast it works, I hope.
I also reaised I had to set my drive to IDE because it was set as AHCI as it's a SATA DVD burner, otherwise MEMTEST refused to run.
methinks you should RMA the RAM then. I didnt realize you were running 2x2gb...would that put more stress on the nb and thus decrease max OC?just a thought.
Interesting bout the DVD drive.
Found one:
I may try the pencil mod if i find that mine as a large vdroop
On XS they say it doesn't work, any a lot of people said it increased the vdroop.
Seems to be a new suggestion here: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=190342&page=2
thisisapen
12-07-07, 12:57 PM
methinks you should RMA the RAM then. I didnt realize you were running 2x2gb...would that put more stress on the nb and thus decrease max OC?just a thought.
Interesting bout the DVD drive.
Yeah I'm definately RMA this RAM, it goes to the manufactuer right? My first faulty piece of hardware in 7 years, not so bad of a record I guess.
And I have no idea if it'd put more stress on the NB, but I am guessing so.
Running in single channel is painful :(
I knew it had got serious when Crysis stopped working, so I closed it down and rebooted. Turns out it corrupted EVERY SINGLE PROFILE in Crysis, and I guess the game. Now I've lost all my progress :/
I'm grateful it isn't my motherboard though, or is that still a possibility?
On XS they say it doesn't work, any a lot of people said it increased the vdroop.
Seems to be a new suggestion here: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=190342&page=2
Updated volt mod:
Hi, I found the Vdroop mod recently it works perfectly
1.5V Bios
1.488V CPUZ IDLE
1.504V CPUZ FULL
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4567/2007111802h00vcoreer4.png
Just connect the 2 pins of the resistor using solder or silver conductor
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7236/yeepahk1.jpg
Ive done the mod only with that
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6562/dsc00863ss2.jpg
Now have fun with this excellent motherboard, P35 DS3R FTWWWWW
Yeah I'm definately RMA this RAM, it goes to the manufactuer right?
And I have no idea if it'd put more stress on the NB, but I am guessing so.
Running in single channel is painful :(
I knew it had got serious when Crysis stopped working, so I closed it down and rebooted. Turns out it corrupted EVERY SINGLE PROFILE in Crysis, and I guess the game. Now I've lost all my progress :/
I RMA with the shop i buy from. Just send em an e-mail and im sure theyll sort sumthin out.
I havnt run single channel for ages but i can imagine it lol. :(
Unlucky dude! I bet ur gutted...wonder how it corrupted every file lol.
thisisapen
12-07-07, 02:42 PM
I havnt run single channel for ages but i can imagine it lol. :(
Unlucky dude! I bet ur gutted...wonder how it corrupted every file lol.
Yeah its horrible, expecially on Vista. I can feel and actually see the performance loss. I had to drop Crysis to Medium just to get a playable frame rate online. Least it isn't crashing once a section of memory is addressed though.
This board has blended in with my hardware as well. I installed an Accelero S1 with Turbo Modules on my 8800GT today, took awhile and the bloody RAM sinks kept falling off which fustrasted the hell out of me, but the cable for the fan is now connected to my spare SYS_FAN2 near the northbridge which is really sweet as theres next to NO cables popping out anywhere, it's all tucked around the back.
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3127/awesome1na5.jpg
The Accelero S1 is really nice though, I idle at 35C in a warm room and hit about 45C playing a game, that's with the settings in my signature, without a volt mod, plus it's 100% quieter.
I think I'll try to figure out how to volt mod this with a CD..
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4849/dsc02533nj5.jpg
Lovely naked 8800 GT
Yeah its horrible, expecially on Vista. I can feel and actually see the performance loss. I had to drop Crysis to Medium just to get a playable frame rate online. Least it isn't crashing once a section of memory is addressed though.
The Accelero S1 is really nice though, I idle at 35C in a warm room and hit about 45C playing a game, that's with the settings in my signature, without a volt mod, plus it's 100% quieter.
I think I'll try to figure out how to volt mod this with a CD..
wow those are some pretty tidy temps.....cant wait 'til i get my 8800GT after xmas
iv seen a few volt mods around the place..im sure a quick google would fine some .
thisisapen
12-08-07, 06:04 AM
wow those are some pretty tidy temps.....cant wait 'til i get my 8800GT after xmas
iv seen a few volt mods around the place..im sure a quick google would fine some .
Well if you went to a bit more trouble with applying AC thermal paste to the RAM sinks, with glue, you'd lose an additional 3~5c from that, so 30C idle. May as well be water cooled haha.
I am using a P182 though, so it's got a 120mm (low RPM because my case is pretty quiet) blowing through/over the graphics card, plus it's got two 80mm attached to it.
Well if you went to a bit more trouble with applying AC thermal paste to the RAM sinks, with glue, you'd lose an additional 3~5c from that, so 30C idle. May as well be water cooled haha.
I am using a P182 though, so it's got a 120mm (low RPM because my case is pretty quiet) blowing through/over the graphics card, plus it's got two 80mm attached to it.
i may water cool mine...havnt decided yet. Im caseless so i can put fans wherever i want lol :D...very usefull when benching
thisisapen
12-09-07, 11:33 AM
Why does my board have to have so much vdrop :bang head
I can't even get PRIME95 to run with one 2GB stick for longer than an hour at 2.8Ghz, 1.35vcore (In BIOS) +0.2 NB/FSB and non-overclocked memory.
Guess it's vcore bumping time (and 65c :mad:)
Why does my board have to have so much vdrop :bang head
I can't even get PRIME95 to run with one 2GB stick for longer than an hour at 2.8Ghz, 1.35vcore (In BIOS) +0.2 NB/FSB and non-overclocked memory.
Guess it's vcore bumping time (and 65c :mad:)
you could try the mod i posted above if you feel brave.
can you get any more fans near it to col it down? u tried upping PCI-e volts?
thisisapen
12-09-07, 03:08 PM
you could try the mod i posted above if you feel brave.
can you get any more fans near it to col it down? u tried upping PCI-e volts?
That is the one thing I never touched. I've upped the CPU voltage and put the PCI-E voltage to +0.1. I'm not too keen on the idea and I don't entirely understand how doing so helps but I had read that doing it helped keep it stable. Meh.
I've got two 120MM fan (P182 case, so PSU is at the bottom in a seperate part) extracting about 2 inch away from the CPU HS+F, on their highet RPM while running PRIME95. God does it generate some heat (67C I noticed with my back fans on medium!) that is only cured by generating a ton of noise. Ah well, it's the end product we're aiming for here right? A perfectly set up, optimized system that's as steady as a rock.
I'm REALLY hoping that it isn't the motherboard that's faulty.
Must say, overclocking definately is a tad more complicated than it was on single core, that or I'm just trying to tweak more and more things. I never considerd lowing the sub-timings of RAM either.
It's a shame we don't have 'PerformanceLevel' controls on this board, but since theres software to do it and the board was £70/$140 less than the versions with it I really don't care.
I'm pleased I found such a perfect board. I really see SLI/Crossfire boards as a waste of money because I'd be paying $30+ just for the privilage to MAYBE add a second card later on down the line.
And anyway.. if I bought an SLI/Crossfire configuration I'd need to replace my RAM with SLI/Crossfire RAM! :rolleyes:
That is the one thing I never touched. I've upped the CPU voltage and put the PCI-E voltage to +0.1. I'm not too keen on the idea and I don't entirely understand how doing so helps but I had read that doing it helped keep it stable. Meh.
I'm REALLY hoping that it isn't the motherboard that's faulty.
I'm pleased I found such a perfect board. I really see SLI/Crossfire boards as a waste of money because I'd be paying $30+ just for the privilage to MAYBE add a second card later on down the line.
And anyway.. if I bought an SLI/Crossfire configuration I'd need to replace my RAM with SLI/Crossfire RAM! :rolleyes:
Any results with +0.1 on PCI-e?
i wouldnt have thought the mobo was faulty...well i hope not anyway.
I hope your not serious about the SLI/crossfire RAM...its just a marketing gimmick. :D
thisisapen
12-09-07, 07:45 PM
Any results with +0.1 on PCI-e?
i wouldnt have thought the mobo was faulty...well i hope not anyway.
I hope your not serious about the SLI/crossfire RAM...its just a marketing gimmick. :D
10 hours stable in PRIME95.. :) It's still going.
And yeah I know, hense the rollseyes
There was a thread about it in the memory sub-forum, I know a few people outside of the 'net that buy into the marketing crap too "oh so I should get SLI RAM, right?"
10 hours stable in PRIME95.. :) It's still going.
And yeah I know, hense the rollseyes
There was a thread about it in the memory sub-forum, I know a few people outside of the 'net that buy into the marketing crap too "oh so I should get SLI RAM, right?"
good going on the stability!
I love people who try n sound like they know it all when they talk bout SLI RAM. :D...so fun saying "well actually..."
thisisapen
12-10-07, 12:55 PM
good going on the stability!
I love people who try n sound like they know it all when they talk bout SLI RAM. :D...so fun saying "well actually..."
I hit 14Hr in a second test, then two cores went down. Was really hoping for 24 hour but ah well.
I hit 14Hr in a second test, then two cores went down. Was really hoping for 24 hour but ah well.
14hrs should be fine if ur not running 24/7....id use it.
u gunna push for any higher clocks?
surfasb
12-10-07, 01:51 PM
This is the motherboard I'm hoping to get for christmas. I'm glad to see great results from it always
This is the motherboard I'm hoping to get for christmas. I'm glad to see great results from it always
you certainly will have a lot of fun with it! what cpu u gettin with it?
chrispycrunch
12-10-07, 02:22 PM
Will it work with the Penryns? I plan to get this board for the e8400.
surfasb
12-10-07, 02:33 PM
you certainly will have a lot of fun with it! what cpu u gettin with it? I've got a Q6600 from Fry's on black friday. I haven't been keeping up with overclocking threads since my AMD 3700. I've got alot of threads to dig through.
Will it work with the Penryns? I plan to get this board for the e8400.
It does work with penryns....the P35 chipset was made for the 45nm chips.
I've got a Q6600 from Fry's on black friday. I haven't been keeping up with overclocking threads since my AMD 3700. I've got alot of threads to dig through.
good luck with the OCing...you should be able to get it to around 3.2 without much hassle and reasonable cooling.....what cooling dyu intent on using with it?
surfasb
12-10-07, 04:42 PM
good luck with the OCing...you should be able to get it to around 3.2 without much hassle and reasonable cooling.....what cooling dyu intent on using with it?
That's a good question. I haven't really decided on a CPU cooler yet. I'm gonna use air of course ($ reasons). I hate to hijack the thread though. I'm gonna pound the search function here and look at some reviews also. I was interested in the Scythe Infinity as I remember it getting a good review from Firingsquad.com.
That's a good question. I haven't really decided on a CPU cooler yet. I'm gonna use air of course ($ reasons). I hate to hijack the thread though. I'm gonna pound the search function here and look at some reviews also. I was interested in the Scythe Infinity as I remember it getting a good review from Firingsquad.com.
thread jack all u like :D
The scythe is a very good cooler. Another to suggest would have to be the TRU120 (thermalright ultra 120)....supposedly the best air cooler available to man....personally i use a Titan Amanda TEC air cooler with two high CFM fans on cos i got it cheap.:D
thisisapen
12-10-07, 05:48 PM
That's a good question. I haven't really decided on a CPU cooler yet. I'm gonna use air of course ($ reasons). I hate to hijack the thread though. I'm gonna pound the search function here and look at some reviews also. I was interested in the Scythe Infinity as I remember it getting a good review from Firingsquad.com.
Get that Thermaletake eXetreme thing, I can't rememvber it's name but it's performance is closest to water cooling and it's awesome. I myself am using a Zalman 9700, which is okay and I'm not reaching over 65C running PRIME95 at 3.2Ghz with dodgy voltages, but I wish I had bought something a little more suited to the quads.
edit; Thermaltake Ultra-120 Extreme is the one I was thinking of.
Get that Thermaletake eXetreme thing, I can't rememvber it's name but it's performance is closest to water cooling and it's awesome. I myself am using a Zalman 9700, which is okay and I'm not reaching over 65C running PRIME95 at 3.2Ghz with dodgy voltages, but I wish I had bought something a little more suited to the quads.
edit; Thermaltake Ultra-120 Extreme is the one I was thinking of.
I hope for your sakes that you meant thermalright!!!! ... just thought id jump in there before the raging torrent of fire from the air cooling dudes comes down on you lol.
thisisapen
12-10-07, 06:31 PM
I hope for your sakes that you meant thermalright!!!! ... just thought id jump in there before the raging torrent of fire from the air cooling dudes comes down on you lol.
thermalright? but thermaltake make such awesome coolers :rolleyes:
I had one of their HS+F and it ran at like 7000RPM or something ****ing insane NONSTOP and you could hear the system on the next floor. This was because the HS+F sucked it's own speed adjustment cable into itself and cut it, so I had to connect it to a molex. My own fault but still.
Anyway..
I am certain my vcore is too high. I'm at 1.36V reported by CPU-Z, about 1.425 set in BIOS and I keep hearing of peopel hitting 3.2Ghz on like 1.3v in BIOS.. which would be awesome as my full load temp wouldn't ever pass 60c.. but I just can't seem to get my system stable. As for hitting 3.6Ghz, I can do that, but the automatic fan spins up too loud and I really am not interested in a system that fast, 3.2Ghz is more than enough.
I am ****ed that PRIME95 didn't run for 24hours, I am definately aiming to achieve that. I suppose the only thing I can do really is wait till the RMA'd RAM is replaced, but I have no idea if single channel is going to cause issues in PRIME95, surely if it can't access the memory it'll just take longer to do whatever it needs to do, it wouldn't flat out fail, especially not on a core?
I am unsure whether to make a thread about this as it seems like a typical "MY Q6600!!" thread but eh, saves me degrading this one, I guess.
So the general idea is to keep increasing vcore till PRIME95 runs constantly without hiccup, right? 13Hrs is pretty long, but I hate hate HATE the voltage I'm at. 36C idle in a mild room is fustrasting as I should be <35C idle and 55 full load :(
My other cores idle at 30C though. argh.
Maybe I will just make that thread, once one of you reply :)
Sorry for the thread ****ting, I just figure that since we all use the board that we'll understand the vdrop and other issues, and settings.
I think the only option you have is to up the vcore til its stable for 24 if thats what you want. personaly id be fine with 13hours but its completely down to personal preference.
you could make a thread but this one would have dies ages ago if it werent for you :D lol
I dont really worry about voltages...im more worried about temps cos thats whats gunna kill the chip first....if ur running - 1.4v and 70C load the itl die first compared to sumthin running 1.5v and at 55C load.
id be happy with 35 idle...i only get 38-40 :(
tried different BIOSes with these new settings?
I tried up to 1.5 vcore and I couldn't even get through a 1024M run of wprime. It offical, my chip kinds sucks. I shouldn't complain too hard about a 1.1ghz OC (1.86->2.94) but all these people with 3.6ghz e6300s make me jealous.
I tried up to 1.5 vcore and I couldn't even get through a 1024M run of wprime. It offical, my chip kinds sucks. I shouldn't complain too hard about a 1.1ghz OC (1.86->2.94) but all these people with 3.6ghz e6300s make me jealous.
feel sorry for ya man....what settings u using?
if ur using higher voltages it always helps to cool stuff like MOSFETs n that.
1:1 memory, 5-5-5-15, everything else auto.
I tried +0.2 on FSB and MCH/NB/whatever its called and +0.3 to no avail.
1.5 vcore caused the system to not even load Windows, everything from there to the 1.45 I guess is my current 24/7 setting would pass short stability tests, ie 1M superpi and the 32M wprime, but fail everything else, usually causing a reboot. Temps seemed to max out at 54C which isn't too bad I think.
u tried +0.1 on the pci-e?? might just work.. it worked for "thisisapen"
Im gonna be getting one shortly (love xmas) along with e6700, hx520, 2gb ddr2-800 GSkill, hopefully 8800gt 512mb.
what do you think of thAZT
Im gonna be getting one shortly (love xmas) along with e6700, hx520, 2gb ddr2-800 GSkill, hopefully 8800gt 512mb.
what do you think of thAZT
it should be a pretty impressive setup...should also be able to OC the crap out of that 6700 :D....what cooling u getting?
chrispycrunch
12-14-07, 03:27 PM
thermalright? but thermaltake make such awesome coolers :rolleyes:
I had one of their HS+F and it ran at like 7000RPM or something ****ing insane NONSTOP and you could hear the system on the next floor. This was because the HS+F sucked it's own speed adjustment cable into itself and cut it, so I had to connect it to a molex. My own fault but still.
Anyway..
I am certain my vcore is too high. I'm at 1.36V reported by CPU-Z, about 1.425 set in BIOS and I keep hearing of peopel hitting 3.2Ghz on like 1.3v in BIOS.. which would be awesome as my full load temp wouldn't ever pass 60c.. but I just can't seem to get my system stable. As for hitting 3.6Ghz, I can do that, but the automatic fan spins up too loud and I really am not interested in a system that fast, 3.2Ghz is more than enough.
I am ****ed that PRIME95 didn't run for 24hours, I am definately aiming to achieve that. I suppose the only thing I can do really is wait till the RMA'd RAM is replaced, but I have no idea if single channel is going to cause issues in PRIME95, surely if it can't access the memory it'll just take longer to do whatever it needs to do, it wouldn't flat out fail, especially not on a core?
I am unsure whether to make a thread about this as it seems like a typical "MY Q6600!!" thread but eh, saves me degrading this one, I guess.
So the general idea is to keep increasing vcore till PRIME95 runs constantly without hiccup, right? 13Hrs is pretty long, but I hate hate HATE the voltage I'm at. 36C idle in a mild room is fustrasting as I should be <35C idle and 55 full load :(
My other cores idle at 30C though. argh.
Maybe I will just make that thread, once one of you reply :)
Sorry for the thread ****ting, I just figure that since we all use the board that we'll understand the vdrop and other issues, and settings.
My Athlon 1.4 originally had a 7000rpm TT. it was awfully loud. No sane person should use such a cooler.
WiglyWorm
12-14-07, 04:27 PM
I've got a Thermalright 120 ultra extreme, and it's fantastic. My CPU runs quite cool (I'll get some screenies of my temps when I get home if you like).
I have a question though also, relating my Q6600 and a P35C-DS3R. I hear about all these people getting 3.6 GHz from them. I can only seem to eke out 3.2, though. I'm currently running at 400*8, and I can't get any higher either by raising the FSB or lowering the FSB while raising the multi... I dont' want to go all the way up to 1.5 on the CPU, and I don't want to risk too much heat either, but I'd like to see if I can get hgiher than 3.2
Have you tried adjusting any of the other voltage settings? For me the PCI-E voltage seems to help.
WiglyWorm
12-14-07, 05:17 PM
I have my CPU at 1.38, my NB and FSB are at +0.1. I would never imagine PCI-e would help, but I'll give it a shot (i've seen it recomended here also, but no details on the results of doing so). Thanks you reckon I should bump it up to +0.1? I'll give it a shot...
Have you tried adjusting any of the other voltage settings? For me the PCI-E voltage seems to help.
yeah the PCI-e voltage strangely seems to help....especially with people using Quads on this mobo.
@WiglyWorm
maybe also try +0.2 on thenb and fsb
Meh it didn't help me in the long run. I did survive a 1024M run of wprime but Orthos rebooted on me:(
I'm gonna work on lowering the vcore, tweak the memory, and then OC the video card. Maybe when I get a job I'll try some active cooling on the chipset and sinking the mosfets. But considering I spent $800 on the cpu, cooler, mobo, ram, psu, video card, and case I'm pretty happy.
WiglyWorm
12-15-07, 10:18 PM
btw, is it at possible to install raid after installing the OS? I tried and the computer doesn't want to boot. I don't have a floppy drive, so I can't install the drivers during the OS install.
btw, is it at possible to install raid after installing the OS? I tried and the computer doesn't want to boot. I don't have a floppy drive, so I can't install the drivers during the OS install.
simple answer,no.
you can integrate the drivers into the windows install using a prog of which i cant remember the name. Ill try n get it for ya.
What i did tho was install windows temporarily into a single drive and then create the raid partition on the other drives and optimize the stripe size. then install windows.
thisisapen
12-16-07, 03:46 PM
btw, is it at possible to install raid after installing the OS? I tried and the computer doesn't want to boot. I don't have a floppy drive, so I can't install the drivers during the OS install.
I doubt RAID0 is possible because of how it works. I haven't used RAID at all but as far as I know the data is split over the two(+) drivers, at the moment you've got it all on one drive and I really doubt you can force the OS to seperate all the data, that'll be in use, over the drives.
I was able to install AHCI (SATA) as I had installed Vista with the drives set to IDE mode. People say to switch to AHCI you have to format which isn't the case if you google for a guide.
Changing it to AHCI in BIOS caused bluescreens while loading the OS, so I had to change a setting within the Windows registry which basically enabled AHCI, restart, configur the BIOS then install the drivers once Vista had booted and logged in.
But yeah, I'm guessnig RAID would need a fresh installation. Also Vista lets you load the drivers from a CD if you're able to make one.
I've got a Thermalright 120 ultra extreme, and it's fantastic. My CPU runs quite cool (I'll get some screenies of my temps when I get home if you like).
I have a question though also, relating my Q6600 and a P35C-DS3R. I hear about all these people getting 3.6 GHz from them. I can only seem to eke out 3.2, though. I'm currently running at 400*8, and I can't get any higher either by raising the FSB or lowering the FSB while raising the multi... I dont' want to go all the way up to 1.5 on the CPU, and I don't want to risk too much heat either, but I'd like to see if I can get hgiher than 3.2
I've booted up into Windows at 3.6Ghz, any benchmark failed within a few seconds though because my system was unstable at that point, I had corrupted RAM and I hadn't optimized the voltages. I had to set the voltage to something like 1.45, or even 1.5v though, and the automatically controlled CPU fan span at full speed which was too much noise for me.
I was at something like +0.2 NB/FSB, 1.475v core, 4-4-4-15 400Mhz 2.1v RAM
DrunkenCat
12-18-07, 12:58 AM
I've been able to hit about 430FSB before it completey screws up, at about 420 it's somewhat stable. Did you increase your MCH/FSB voltage at all? I've tried at stock. I suppose I'll give 7* another try and try increasing the voltage +0.1
oh and I decided to rip apart my old ABIT NF7 for it's northbridge fan.
http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/8717/sweeeeeeeet5bh2.jpg
It's a 2 pin fan connected to a 3 pin fan socket, works fine though. that isn't going to cause me issues is it?
lol omg nf7 lol thoes where the good days lol extrem cooling to get thoes bad boys just to hit 2.4 or 2.6 lol thoes days rocked lol
After 3 weeks of not being able to use this mobo i SHOULD get my new PSU 2day and be able to do some preliminary testing this eve. :D
GUESS WHAT.....they went to the wrong friggin address....better start the phone calls.
I GOT MY PSU!! at friggin last....will do testing asap
got my ds3r rev 2.0 running this 24/7
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=285318
got my ds3r rev 2.0 running this 24/7
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=285318
lookin good dude.
what voltages n temps?
load via CPUZ ater vdroop is 1.440 and load temp via coretemp 0.95.4 max of 60C with a Tuniq Tower 120 running prime95 torture small FTT Test
prime95 runs about 5c hotten than orthos - seems to be more intensive
18 hours stable
normal game load via coretemp 0.95.4 is 50-52C max
ballastix 4-4-4-12 450 Mhz 2.1V
18 hours memtest86 stable
load via CPUZ ater vdroop is 1.440 and load temp via coretemp 0.95.4 max of 60C with a Tuniq Tower 120 running prime95 torture small FTT Test
prime95 runs about 5c hotten than orthos - seems to be more intensive
18 hours stable
normal game load via coretemp 0.95.4 is 50-52C max
ballastix 4-4-4-12 450 Mhz 2.1V
18 hours memtest86 stable
Very nice....what you running on MCH and FSB voltage wise?
I just got mine hooked up just now on a 400FSB @ 1.2v in bios (cpuz gives 1.14 load)....and no extra voltages on FSB or MCH :D
If this is stable ill try for 450.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8462/smallfttbp6.jpg
quick test just +0.1 MCH thats it
^^^ very nice BTK.
Iv got mine stable at 450FSB too with +0.1 on fsb and mch but only 1.28vcore :D
testing at 460 now as temps seem to be getting high...67 on small ffts :(....cant wait to get watercooled tho.
chrispycrunch
01-08-08, 10:44 AM
Very nice....what you running on MCH and FSB voltage wise?
I just got mine hooked up just now on a 400FSB @ 1.2v in bios (cpuz gives 1.14 load)....and no extra voltages on FSB or MCH :D
If this is stable ill try for 450.
Nice work! :) :beer: It takes a lot of work and persistence...but the sport of doing it is rewarding if one is able to achieve a good overclock.
What CPU cooler? What are your temps? I have an intel stock fan, but don't plan to upgrade it until can get somewhere with stock voltage/fan overclocking.
Here are some of my results trial and error. Fan speed set to AUTO:
-AUTO, 375x8 - LAN Onboard failed (probably due to other components requiring more juice)
With 4-4-4-15 @ 2.0V:
-Cpu voltage 1.35V, 343x8 - BSOD after 12 hrs; 40 idle/60 load
-Cpu voltage 1.35V, FSB Voltage+0.1V, 350x8 - Orthos stable 30 min, MemTest pass 1.5 hrs - BSOD in Crysis - 42 idle/60 load
Does my memory want more voltage? Does my PCIE? Does my MCH? It's such a small overclock!
my cooler isnt too god...im getting ~62 load with 1.3625v set in bois and 450fsb with no change to mch or fsb
ram is running 450mhz 1:1 with fsb with 4-4-4-6 timings @2.1v
maybe try more mch voltage or more on the cpu
BillGallagher
01-09-08, 06:08 PM
my cooler isnt too god...im getting ~62 load with 1.3625v set in bois and 450fsb with no change to mch or fsb
ram is running 450mhz 1:1 with fsb with 4-4-4-6 timings @2.1v
maybe try more mch voltage or more on the cpu
I am using Cooler Master GeminII. It cools the cpu along with mother board. Has two 120mm fans to do the job, extra $. I purchased two high speed 95 CFM fans IIR, kinda noisy, but at full load, floor temp, which means temperature measured in front of the case which is located on the floor is 20C, system temp motherboard is 31C, and CPU temp is 46C. Right now floor temp is 24C, system is 34C, and CPU is 51C....rendering picture at full load
oc a e2160 to 3.1Mhz .....Intel stated on their tech spec, system temp should not be highter than 40C and CPU no highter than 70C.....So, I am very happen with this coller
http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&tbcate=152&id=289
Another issue: My sound does not work. tried everything to fix it but no luck. Do others have the same problem??
TIA
Bill
what have u tried to get the sound working?
I just loaded the drivers off the disk and its worked fine throughout.
Did you do any RAID with this mobo? I'm currently on a DS3L and would probably get this DS3R so I could start doing RAID0 for my HDD's.
I'm just curious if high overclocking would give problems to the RAID array.
it should be a pretty impressive setup...should also be able to OC the crap out of that 6700 :D....what cooling u getting?
well didn't get it even though it was the only things on my list... but im working my way to getting it myself but i meant the e6750 and i ended up getting a gamexstream 600W and OCZ Platinum rev. 2 ddr2 800 2x1 gb
Did you do any RAID with this mobo? I'm currently on a DS3L and would probably get this DS3R so I could start doing RAID0 for my HDD's.
I'm just curious if high overclocking would give problems to the RAID array.
Yups...I do raid 0 on 4 cheapo 80gb hdds and it works perfectly under OC.
Benchmark!
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z25/sam__07/4D-R0-128k-G_Smatrix.png
That was at stock clocks...I get 2.2gb/s burst with OC lol.
Smurfboy
01-10-08, 01:32 PM
Hi, i just noticed this thread, i have this board, p35c-ds3r F2 bios. Please can someone tell me what setting to put the dram on for a ratio of 1:1, at the moment it is on 2.50, which in cpu-z says its a ratio of 4:5.
Also, theres a bit where you can have either Option 1 or Option 2 for the ram, any ideas what the difference is? Its on Option 2 at the moment.
Hi, i just noticed this thread, i have this board, p35c-ds3r F2 bios. Please can someone tell me what setting to put the dram on for a ratio of 1:1, at the moment it is on 2.50, which in cpu-z says its a ratio of 4:5.
Also, theres a bit where you can have either Option 1 or Option 2 for the ram, any ideas what the difference is? Its on Option 2 at the moment.
2.00 makes it 1:1
I have no idea what the options are...I have noticed no difference using either but i am running opt2 atm and its fine.
Thanks Sam__ !
Holy cow and I guess I'm going for this instead of the IP35 Pro. Saves me some cash for the new wolfdales :D
Thanks Sam__ !
Holy cow and I guess I'm going for this instead of the IP35 Pro. Saves me some cash for the new wolfdales :D
oooo...id like to see a wolfdale on this :D:D:D
Smurfboy
01-10-08, 01:58 PM
mmmm what bios you running, cos i can only get to 2.50 the lowest grrrr
mmmm what bios you running, cos i can only get to 2.50 the lowest grrrr
erm....F7 i think...yeah it is.
you should be able to get 2.00 on any bios.
Edit: get in!! 5 pages!! wooot.
Smurfboy
01-10-08, 02:11 PM
Ok, time for the dreaded bios flash then ......Gulp............i hate them.
will go straight to F9, thats the latest lol.
Ok, time for the dreaded bios flash then ......Gulp............i hate them.
will go straight to F9, thats the latest lol.
lol...make sure you do it with a floppy..not in windows. Well I prefere to do it that way, eliminates any possible windows problems.
I use F7 cos i heard its the best for OCing but I havnt really noticed any difference from F2 which I think the board came with...or maybe F1.
Smurfboy
01-10-08, 03:01 PM
Phew, updated to F9 bios, now i got 2.0 woohooo
check this:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard.butler40/www/7.JPG
:beer::beer::beer:
Phew, updated to F9 bios, now i got 2.0 woohooo
:beer::beer::beer:
gdgd...now time to tighten those timings!!
Smurfboy
01-10-08, 03:23 PM
mmmm the memory is rated at 4-4-4-12, so will give them a go tomorrow, getting too late to do it now, but will keep you posted Sam, and tx for your help m8.
:beer::beer:
chrispycrunch
01-10-08, 10:29 PM
F11 came out last week but was only posted today (for rev 1). It fixed my memory corruption errors and i seem to be ok in mem test for 365x8 (3.92Ghz)
F11 came out last week but was only posted today (for rev 1). It fixed my memory corruption errors and i seem to be ok in mem test for 365x8 (3.92Ghz)
I may have to test that one out then
Smurfboy
01-11-08, 10:35 AM
FFS i have never known so many bios updates for one board, heck its not that old lol
chrispycrunch
01-11-08, 01:24 PM
FFS i have never known so many bios updates for one board, heck its not that old lol
Where's QA on this one? The one line description on the BIOS update is of no help either. Other boards are no better. With my ASUS they released betas and didn't describe much about what was fixed.
Needless to say F11 looks like a solid winner. If I can squeeze more juice @ stock, I'll be happy. I'm already happy with my clocks and temps.
Elluzion
01-11-08, 02:25 PM
question: i just bought this board. for the bios update,, do i download the latest?
My version: f6
current: f10
do i download f7, f8, f9, f10
or just f10
i know this question might sound stupid.
You just have to download the latest which in this case F10.
yeah....but you dont really have to unless your having any problems with it...well i try not to anyway.
unless i really just want to try out if its better for OCs n stuff
Elluzion
01-11-08, 05:56 PM
^yeah i just like being up to date and would like to avoid problems at all costs.
chrispycrunch
01-12-08, 09:34 AM
F11 is on the site now.
Smurfboy
01-12-08, 03:47 PM
Ok, i couldnt see F11 today, but hey ho, anyway i updated to F10 and all is well. While i was poking around in the bios, some things have changed or in the case of dram where you had option 1 or 2, has gone :confused:.
Seems a bit more user friendly too now.
GotNoRice
01-13-08, 11:12 AM
I’m running my B3 Q6600 at 3.3Ghz on my DS3R. Initial overclocking was done until I hit the apparent CPU limit at 3.3Ghz via 9x366Mhz. I bumped it up to 8x412 and everything was stable, so I bumped it up again to 7x471. It appeared to be prime stable (though I’m a pretty impatient person and don’t usually run the test for more than ~15 minutes). When I would run a game though, it would crash after about ~10 minutes of playing.
The thing that really confuses me though, is that when I would have it at 7x471, and it would lock-up, upon reboot, it would lock-up again during the bios sequence of my Adaptec 39160 PCI SCSI Controller. I’m really not sure what is going on that would allow near-stability at one point then at another not even allow me to boot using the same settings.
I’m just using the “auto” voltage settings for now, when it wouldn’t get past my SCSI bios sequence that scared me enough to put it back to 412x8 and I’ve had it there for months now without issue. Also updated from old bios (F4 I think it was) to F10, but haven't gone back and tried 7x471 again yet.
Smurfboy
01-13-08, 11:51 AM
Grr got 3.6ghz on my Q6600, but ran fine during day, downloading etc, played about an hour and half of BF2 and got the BSOD, bummer. What voltage do you recommend, Its at 1.4 in the bios at mo, think coretemp reads it as 1.366 or sommit.
Cant be the memory cos its running at only 800mhz mmmmmm.
Any ideas??
Grr got 3.6ghz on my Q6600, but ran fine during day, downloading etc, played about an hour and half of BF2 and got the BSOD, bummer. What voltage do you recommend, Its at 1.4 in the bios at mo, think coretemp reads it as 1.366 or sommit.
Cant be the memory cos its running at only 800mhz mmmmmm.
Any ideas??
methinks you need more vcore...dont Q6600s need like 1.5 to get 3.6?
hi all! first post here and first time overclocker.
specs first:
p35-ds3L mobo: MCH +0.1v
e6300 @ 445fsb x 7 ( 3.1Ghz ) 1.3687v cooled by zalman cnp9700
kingston ddr750 @ 5-5-5-15 & +0.2v (2.0v i assume)
ati hd3870
ive hit a wall and im trying to get passed it obviously. i tried to find the max for my ram dropped the multi to 6 and set the fsb to 450 on a 1:1 ratio. memtest failed. tried upping the fsb voltage for kicks and it still failed so its now back to "normal".
is my mem holding me back? are there any suggestions to push it farther with looser timings or higher voltage (if thats safe)?
hi all! first post here and first time overclocker.
specs first:
p35-ds3L mobo: MCH +0.1v
e6300 @ 445fsb x 7 ( 3.1Ghz ) 1.3687v cooled by zalman cnp9700
kingston ddr750 @ 5-5-5-15 & +0.2v (2.0v i assume)
ati hd3870
ive hit a wall and im trying to get passed it obviously. i tried to find the max for my ram dropped the multi to 6 and set the fsb to 450 on a 1:1 ratio. memtest failed. tried upping the fsb voltage for kicks and it still failed so its now back to "normal".
is my mem holding me back? are there any suggestions to push it farther with looser timings or higher voltage (if thats safe)?
id try upping the ram voltage and dropping the timings. what is the RAM rated for? maybe this is as far as it can go. If so then you might wanna get some new stuff.....its stupidly cheap on the egg after MIRs.
id try upping the ram voltage and dropping the timings. what is the RAM rated for? maybe this is as far as it can go. If so then you might wanna get some new stuff.....its stupidly cheap on the egg after MIRs.
thanks for the reply.
just got this ram for xmas and my cousin who got it for me didnt realize id suddenly start overclocking. is there any way to tell if its safe or dangerous to up the ram voltage +0.1v? my ram is rated at 750 and kingston suggests 1.9v.
loving this motherboard for my first overclocking experience btw. never thought this chip could go up to 3Ghz until i searched around and tried it myself. :)
thanks for the reply.
just got this ram for xmas and my cousin who got it for me didnt realize id suddenly start overclocking. is there any way to tell if its safe or dangerous to up the ram voltage +0.1v? my ram is rated at 750 and kingston suggests 1.9v.
loving this motherboard for my first overclocking experience btw. never thought this chip could go up to 3Ghz until i searched around and tried it myself. :)
It should be fine up to 2.2 so try it out.
I'm wondering if there is something wrong with my board, 430 fsb seems really low all things considered.
Does anyone else's system power down after you save the BIOS settings while overclocking?
I'm wondering if there is something wrong with my board, 430 fsb seems really low all things considered.
Does anyone else's system power down after you save the BIOS settings while overclocking?
mine powers down then start again.
what other hardware and voltages are you running?
chrispycrunch
01-30-08, 07:19 AM
mine powers down then start again.
what other hardware and voltages are you running?
if it powers down and starts again / losing the settings it means the overclock is unstable.
Have y'all +0.1 for everything? FSB, PCIe, MCH? Set pcie to 100-103Mhz, not auto. use the max rated voltage for memory.
swoyekr.
01-30-08, 08:19 AM
My DS3L will be here today. I can't wait to get everything together and then start to mess around.
if it powers down and starts again / losing the settings it means the overclock is unstable.
Have y'all +0.1 for everything? FSB, PCIe, MCH? Set pcie to 100-103Mhz, not auto. use the max rated voltage for memory.
Mine does that too but when I reconfigure with the same settings and restart, it works fine. I shut down and start from cold and it resets to default settings. Kinda annoying but not worth sending the board back. I haven't tried anything else yet. I wish they had actual voltages rather than "+0.1" in the settings.
if it powers down and starts again / losing the settings it means the overclock is unstable.
Have y'all +0.1 for everything? FSB, PCIe, MCH? Set pcie to 100-103Mhz, not auto. use the max rated voltage for memory.
mine is perfectly fine after it powers down n starts again :D...keeps setting n all that.
I wish they had actual voltages rather than "+0.1" in the settings.
Would be nice but theyr easily read with a multi meter if you really want them.
mine powers down then start again.
what other hardware and voltages are you running?
Specs in the sig.
At 430 fsb I had 1.45 vcore and +0.1 for everything else. I tried everything I could and 440 wouldn't even POST. A few times I tried using 1.525 vcore and still no success.
Specs in the sig.
At 430 fsb I had 1.45 vcore and +0.1 for everything else. I tried everything I could and 440 wouldn't even POST. A few times I tried using 1.525 vcore and still no success.
hmmm....very strange. u tried +0.2 on the mch and fsb?
Just checked, no go:(
I've also tried +0.3 on both of those.
I may need to mod the NB heatsink, it idles around 35C. Add some IC7 and see if I have a fan to stick on it.
Just checked, no go:(
I've also tried +0.3 on both of those.
I may need to mod the NB heatsink, it idles around 35C. Add some IC7 and see if I have a fan to stick on it.
I doubt its the nb.....mines idling at 42C and its fine.
Maybe I'll give F11 bios a shot later.
But I have to admit I'm tempted to get a P5K-E.
F11 didn't help. I'm flat out of ideas:(
wingman99
02-01-08, 09:24 PM
will this board work with installing E8400 and can you start the board with the E8400
im waiting for a video card to come in and ill have my p35-ds3r up and running with a pentium 4
Blazing fire
02-01-08, 09:52 PM
load via CPUZ ater vdroop is 1.440 and load temp via coretemp 0.95.4 max of 60C with a Tuniq Tower 120 running prime95 torture small FTT Test
prime95 runs about 5c hotten than orthos - seems to be more intensive
18 hours stable
normal game load via coretemp 0.95.4 is 50-52C max
ballastix 4-4-4-12 450 Mhz 2.1V
18 hours memtest86 stable
What room temps?
If it is about 25 degrees, I have nothing to complain about my TRUE. :) Mine's at 1.480 @ 63 degrees on a hot day (30degrees)
will this board work with installing E8400 and can you start the board with the E8400
It depends what BIOS it comes with. I think it will probs need the latest. If it doesnt work you could just get a cheap 775 celery and put it in to update the BIOS and then return it or sell it on.
Finally, a working vdroop mod!
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7236/yeepahk1.jpg
You can use a pencil (I used a 2 HB, maybe others would work better), solder, or probably any conductive substance.
Finally, a working vdroop mod!
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7236/yeepahk1.jpg
You can use a pencil (I used a 2 HB, maybe others would work better), solder, or probably any conductive substance.
i might have to try this one out. where about is this chip on the board?
Oops. Here it is with mspaint goodness:D
Oops. Here it is with mspaint goodness:D
cheers...I'll try it 2moz n see how it works.
D_arkTrooper
02-02-08, 05:48 PM
Hi guys.
Swapped my motherboard for one of these GAP35CDS3R models from an Asus P5W DH Deluxe.
Never done any overclocking before so would like some real "idiot proof" advice about how I can get my 2.4ghz E6600 cpu running stable at around the 3ghz mark (if possible).
I've had a browse on various sites but can't seem to get my head around why my cpu shows as running at approx 1600ghz during boot and in CPU-Z.
GAP35CDS3R,2.4ghz E6600 C2D,Arctic Cooler 7,2xgigCorsair Dominator 6400 RAM,Corsair 750w PSU,GeForce 8800GTS.
Hi guys.
Swapped my motherboard for one of these GAP35CDS3R models from an Asus P5W DH Deluxe.
Never done any overclocking before so would like some real "idiot proof" advice about how I can get my 2.4ghz E6600 cpu running stable at around the 3ghz mark (if possible).
I've had a browse on various sites but can't seem to get my head around why my cpu shows as running at approx 1600ghz during boot and in CPU-Z.
GAP35CDS3R,2.4ghz E6600 C2D,Arctic Cooler 7,2xgigCorsair Dominator 6400 RAM.
take a read through some of the stickies and they should help. also uv probs got one of the cpu power saver things on...thinks its EIST? or sumthin like tht. Turn it off in the BIS and the cpu will stay at 2.4ghz.
About the voltmod above...I just tried it and im not getting any different reading in cpu-z. 1.375 set in bios, 1.328 idle in cpuz and 1.312 load. I guess people are more likely to see results at higher volts?
I have a question regarding the e-sata...
Which connectors on the MB should be used for the e-sata?
I have a question regarding the e-sata...
Which connectors on the MB should be used for the e-sata?
dyu mean the e-sata pci bracket? I think that just plugs into the sata sockets. Im not aware of any special e-sata headers on the mobo but im sure a quick look through the manual should sort that out.
lemme go grab my manual and take a peek as i plan to modify my p180 to have e-sata in the front of the case
chrispycrunch
02-03-08, 04:59 PM
If you install AHCI (there's a way to do this post-XP install) your eSATA will be plug n' play.
mine is perfectly fine after it powers down n starts again :D...keeps setting n all that.
Welp, my board doesn't default to stock settings now. I got SATA converters for my optical drives and removed all IDE drives and cables. Booted up and started right up.
My 2 IDE drives are 160gb and 80gb so not a big deal since I just got a 500gb drive to go along with the 2x160gb Raid-0 (298gb formatted). I threw the 160gb in an external case and will use it for archiving files.
I'm solid at 3.2ghz (400x8, 4-4-4-12). Nice and speedy :beer:
Welp, my board doesn't default to stock settings now. I got SATA converters for my optical drives and removed all IDE drives and cables. Booted up and started right up.
My 2 IDE drives are 160gb and 80gb so not a big deal since I just got a 500gb drive to go along with the 2x160gb Raid-0 (298gb formatted). I threw the 160gb in an external case and will use it for archiving files.
I'm solid at 3.2ghz (400x8, 4-4-4-12). Nice and speedy :beer:
interesting that you had to unplug the ID devises but its good to know its all ok now.:D
D_arkTrooper
02-05-08, 06:31 AM
During a run of Prime95,my brand new Arctic Freezer 7 Pro STOPPED after 2 and a half hours.Temps were hitting 73 degrees before I had to shut down :(
chrispycrunch
02-05-08, 07:19 AM
During a run of Prime95,my brand new Arctic Freezer 7 Pro STOPPED after 2 and a half hours.Temps were hitting 73 degrees before I had to shut down :(
Wouldn't the C2D shut itself down if temps went higher?
Elluzion
02-05-08, 08:35 AM
i have this board. Is the vdrop mod worth it?
i have this board. Is the vdrop mod worth it?
I tried it and I had exactly the same vdroop as before so im not sure if it works. Although i only did it with a pencil...you could do it with a conductive pen or sumthin like tht and it might work.
Video Card came in yesterday so ill be builing this system up once i get all my data backed up
Video Card came in yesterday so ill be builing this system up once i get all my data backed up
cool...cant wait to see the results.
well if you wanna see how my data back up is going...
from a sata 1.5 drive to ata100
attached
ive seen it jump all the way up to 130,xxx days
well if you wanna see how my data back up is going...
from a sata 1.5 drive to ata100
attached
ive seen it jump all the way up to 130,xxx days
good lord thats crazy-slow. Wonder why. U sure the HDDs are working fine?
yea the hdd's are fine... it just because the transfer stopped due to a messagebox asking for me to replace something... I shot that afterwards while it was catching up... but 3.4mb is all the faster it will go which makes me :(
yea the hdd's are fine... it just because the transfer stopped due to a messagebox asking for me to replace something... I shot that afterwards while it was catching up... but 3.4mb is all the faster it will go which makes me :(
major bummer dude. u checked all the cables n stuff? just to make sure.
major bummer dude. u checked all the cables n stuff? just to make sure.
yea i have checked it all even smart and it all is fine... his drive is a segate model st3120022a but i know my drive would go faster if his wasn't so sloooowww
here is his drive
http://computers.pricegrabber.com/hard-drives/m/683291/details/
Check Device manager and look at the controllers. Make sure they're set to DMA and not PIO.
If it's a bunch of small files, that's about normal.
yea its a lot of small files... its all transefered over so im starting teardown of current system in about 5 mins!
ill let you know how it went when i am up and running!
chrispycrunch
02-06-08, 03:59 PM
yea its a lot of small files... its all transefered over so im starting teardown of current system in about 5 mins!
ill let you know how it went when i am up and running!
Would it be faster to WINRAR it first and then copy it over?
I've got the problem of slow file transfer from DVDR to HD when there are many files.
it may but it doesn't matter anymore since i have it all backed up...
little update i cut some holes in the case for wiring purposes
Im installing vista now and i was gettin mad cause it kept throwing me errors until i remembered i have to overvolt the ram because it is 1.8v default and my memory takes 2.1 so i had to +.3v on the memory
vista installing now and everything else is great!
I am currently running at 191x21=4011.7mhz
30C idle
not running loads yet
processor P4 511J Prescott 2.8ghz Stock locked multiplier of 21
I am currently running at 191x21=4011.7mhz
30C idle
not running loads yet
processor P4 511J Prescott 2.8ghz Stock locked multiplier of 21
niiiiiiice...whats the ambient?
niiiiiiice...whats the ambient?
ambient is 68F but that was definately not stable! as it will bsod if i try to use the bios for that but im using a program and trying suicide shots!
here is a validation at 4010 mhz
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=309520
I think i am near the fsb wall of this chip as after 185 or so mhz fsb the chip fails p95 on the first test no matter how much voltage goes where
right now running 181*21 = 3800mhz
Element-Xero
02-07-08, 07:14 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, but I just installed a new system (check sig) featuring this mobo as it's core last night, and I cannot for the life of me find anywhere in the BIOS to tweak memory timings.............
Am I insane? All I see is voltage multi and fsb.
You need to hit Ctrl+F1 in the main screen to show those options. Not sure why Gigabyte still does this.
Element-Xero
02-07-08, 07:50 PM
that's so random. Nice though thank you so much.
joesaiditstrue
02-08-08, 12:43 AM
F10 bios on Rev 1.1 (i think it's rev 1.1) doesn't require the cntrl+f1 anymore, though the screen does still flicker when you press it lol
im not sure which bios i have but would it work better if i would update it?
chrispycrunch
02-09-08, 07:28 PM
im not sure which bios i have but would it work better if i would update it?
F10 gave me memory problems. F11 fixed it.
I got F9 and im having no problems
I would only really update the BIOS if ur having problems or if its got some special feature u want.
Iv run F2 F7 and F11 on my board and they have all been fine.
Edit: yey 200th post :D
I updated to F11 and the memory timings showed up. Didn't know about the Ctrl-F1. Runs pretty good.
D_arkTrooper
03-01-08, 02:41 PM
I'm having problems updating the BIOS to F11.
Q-Flash says there's an ID check error and @BIOS reports "BIOS Partnumber(AWARD) is not correct"
When using @BIOS to try and download a BIOS file from the internet,the only version it finds is F10...and I already have that.
I've tried downloading the F11 file from different servers but with the same result.
Any ideas whats happened?
krishcanag
03-12-08, 08:36 AM
Can someone give a few specific memory modules that work with EP35-DS3R mobo. From gigabyte website I picked up a document with supported memory. Most on there is not directly in stock, like;
corsair CM2X1024-6400C4PRO
If some could give full details of working modules that would be great.
thanks
krishan
chrispycrunch
03-12-08, 10:21 AM
Can someone give a few specific memory modules that work with EP35-DS3R mobo. From gigabyte website I picked up a document with supported memory. Most on there is not directly in stock, like;
corsair CM2X1024-6400C4PRO
If some could give full details of working modules that would be great.
thanks
krishan
Go to ocz technology forum and you can ask the mod there if whatever memory module works with that mobo.
See sig. My memory works fine @ 2.1V. I have a buddy using the ocz ddr1066 1x4gb and it's fine too.
My ballistix and patriots work fine one mine.
krishcanag
03-13-08, 05:31 PM
Does anyone use this mobo with a E8400, if so can you tell me what BIOS version will work, from what version up?
krishan
Does anyone use this mobo with a E8400, if so can you tell me what BIOS version will work, from what version up?
krishan
I've got a revision 2.1 ds3r and run an e8400, it worked out of the box, but I now run bios F11
for older revisions you would have to look on gigabytes website as I don't remember off the top of my head.
Jeff
I think your best bet is just to look on the website. It'll have a list of all the bioses and why they have been made.
krishcanag
03-14-08, 01:41 PM
I asked gigabyte directly and they also said to run E8400 you need to BIOS F11, now what would happen if I get a new mobo that does not have this version but a older vewrsion, should I not bother putting the E8400 in and put for example a E6400 from my present PC? Ideally I don't want to do this but if no choice then so be it, what's say you?
krishan
I asked gigabyte directly and they also said to run E8400 you need to BIOS F11, now what would happen if I get a new mobo that does not have this version but a older vewrsion, should I not bother putting the E8400 in and put for example a E6400 from my present PC? Ideally I don't want to do this but if no choice then so be it, what's say you?
krishan
Just put the E6400 in to update the bios then chuck the E8400 in and ur good to go.
Quigsby
03-14-08, 06:42 PM
Just put the E6400 in to update the bios then chuck the E8400 in and ur good to go.
I had quite an old version on my ds3l, something like version 4. Was no problem to boot off of. I'd try to boot off of your E8400 first.
I had quite an old version on my ds3l, something like version 4. Was no problem to boot off of. I'd try to boot off of your E8400 first.
always worth a try.
2therock
03-17-08, 09:06 AM
Gents,
I'm a noob but learn fast. Currently Ceegar is working with me on another thread and we are not doing so well. It's likely to be all me. Seen this thread and thought I would run it by more sets of eyes.
GA-EP35 DS3R & Q6600 G0 F2 BIOS on Vista x64. She assembled and posted the virst time. See hardware in my signature.
We are trying to take a small step to 2.66. It will not take any clocking, it powers off, comes up showing 2.66 for a few seconds and powers back to 2.4.
The only thing that will keep is volting the RAM +3. If I touch anything else it will not stick.
I'm missing something somewhere.
Gents,
I'm a noob but learn fast. Currently Ceegar is working with me on another thread and we are not doing so well. It's likely to be all me. Seen this thread and thought I would run it by more sets of eyes.
GA-EP35 DS3R & Q6600 G0 F2 BIOS on Vista x64. She assembled and posted the virst time. See hardware in my signature.
We are trying to take a small step to 2.66. It will not take any clocking, it powers off, comes up showing 2.66 for a few seconds and powers back to 2.4.
The only thing that will keep is volting the RAM +3. If I touch anything else it will not stick.
I'm missing something somewhere.
have you tried stock clocks but changing the voltages just to see if it can handle it? mess around with the voltages like that for a bit n see if it gets you anywhere.
If all else fails then you could update the BIOS seeing as you are running quite an old one. Im using the F11 and its doing me fine. I have run the F7 and F3 and they both worked perfectly for me.
also thats quite a lot of RAM ur running there....just make sure ur not running some stupidly high multi on it or even underclock it to eliminate any possible issue. Maybe try upping the MCH voltage with that much ram...could help.
Griff65
03-17-08, 11:44 AM
Have the DS3L in the post at the mo, going to slap my Q6600 in and set it off folding 24/7, hopfully ill have not too shabby clock going in the aid of science soon :)
2therock
03-17-08, 03:23 PM
@ SAM__ I have the EP35. I believe the BIOS versions you speak of are for the P35 boards. Gigabyte only has a F1, F2 and a beta on their support page. But if you know something I don't toss it to me.
What voltage would you try first?
@ SAM__ I have the EP35. I believe the BIOS versions you speak of are for the P35 boards. Gigabyte only has a F1, F2 and a beta on their support page. But if you know something I don't toss it to me.
What voltage would you try first?
oh sorry i didnt notice the E on the front.
Just try a few notches up on the cpu.. maybe 0.04/5. on the MCH just +0.1 should do.
Griff65
03-19-08, 03:41 PM
I love it too, 40 seconds in the bios stock votages and its been foolding Two instances of smp at 100% cpu load for 8 hours now. DS3L rev 2
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/264/quadeo9.jpg
I love it too, 40 seconds in the bios stock votages and its been foolding Two instances of smp at 100% cpu load for 8 hours now. DS3L rev 2
nice job.
Griff65
03-20-08, 05:06 AM
More steam :)
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/4465/morebj9.jpg
chrispycrunch
03-20-08, 07:35 AM
Gents,
I'm a noob but learn fast. Currently Ceegar is working with me on another thread and we are not doing so well. It's likely to be all me. Seen this thread and thought I would run it by more sets of eyes.
GA-EP35 DS3R & Q6600 G0 F2 BIOS on Vista x64. She assembled and posted the virst time. See hardware in my signature.
We are trying to take a small step to 2.66. It will not take any clocking, it powers off, comes up showing 2.66 for a few seconds and powers back to 2.4.
The only thing that will keep is volting the RAM +3. If I touch anything else it will not stick.
I'm missing something somewhere.
You've got 8GB. That means you need the max volts for your memory. I believe your board is like mine: default volts are 1.8 so you have to add whatever your memory needs (see memory company web site).
Also add +0.1 or +0.2 to MCH again because of that memory usage. Set +0.1 for everything else. Plus is your memory setting/timings set correctly?
2therock
03-20-08, 11:42 AM
Thanks All,
I went stumbled into this TweakTown Thread (http://forums.tweaktown.com/showthread.php?t=26112) and did the basic setup and took note of one thing that proved to be my original undoing. Devices attached to the PC will sometimes cause BIOS tweak re-boots to fail and reboot to default settings. Mine was a MyBook 500GB USB. I took it out and all is fine. I held a nice 2.66 from 2.40. shut down and connected the MyBook and she booted fine holding my clock mods.
http://alcphoto.net/q6600_clock1.jpg
Captain Hilts
04-07-08, 09:49 AM
Nice thread, a lot of useful information for overclocking with the Gigabyte P35 boards.
I just picked up a P35 DS3L along with an e2160 over the weekend. So far I haven't had much luck with the FSB overclock. This cpu has a lower default FSB so I seem to be stable at 3GHz using 333x9. Not a bad OC but I was hoping for a higher FSB and lower multi as a lot of people seem to be getting 500+ out of these boards.
Right now I'm at about 10 hours of Orthos at that speed. Ram multi is 2.4 so running at 800 (it's OCZ PC6400). Before this I've tried lowering the cpu multi to 6 and trying higher FSBs like 400 or even 375 (and changing the ram multi to 2.0 so it was underclocked) and it'll either reboot right away (if over 400 or so) or Orthos will fail after a while (when at 375). I have only now tried setting the PCI-E to 102MHz though (I have no idea why that would help but some have suggested it so I'm trying it out). When OCing the FSB I've also tried bumping the MCH and FSB volts by 0.3. Currently they're bumped by 0.1.
Cooling on the CPU is almost stock - I'm using the cooler that came with my e4300 rather than the one that came with the e2160. The e4300 cooler is actually about twice the size and has a copper base, unlike the e2160 cooler.
I've also placed a fan over the northbridge heatsink. It's not a very clean solution but I think it's definately helping.
At current settings CPU is pretty toasty full load, around low 60s when running Orthos. I've got the CPU at 1.45v right now, I'm hoping it needs a bit less than that but it definately needs more than stock as it would crash fairly quickly when using stock volts at 3GHz (like the others those actual vcore is generally lower than what it's set at).
CIA 2 is disabled and performance enchance is at standard. Anything else I'm missing or did I just get a bum board? I was hoping to eventually drop a better CPU in here down the road but it doesn't look like it'll be worth it if I can't get much more than 333 on the FSB.
hmm intresting, ur probs missing sumthin in the BIOS. u tried upping the PCI-e voltage?
although from what iv heard those chips dont really go much beyond 3. but i may be wrong.
2therock
04-07-08, 10:09 AM
Sounds like you are more experienced clocking than I. This was my first build and clock.
Mine being the EP35-DS3R and having a Q6600 it may be different, my the manual (p.52) says =
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)
Allows you to manually set the CPU host frequency. This item is configurable only if the CPU Host Clock Control option is enabled.
The adjustable range is from 100 MHz to 700 MHz.
For an 800 MHz FSB CPU, set this item to 200 MHz.
For a 1066 MHz FSB CPU, set this item to 266 MHz.
For a 1333 MHz FSB CPU, set this item to 333 MHz.
Important It is highly recommended that the CPU frequency be set in accordance with the CPU specifications.
I could get mine to anywhere I wanted to be.
Sounds like you are more experienced clocking than I. This was my first build and clock.
Mine being the EP35-DS3R and having a Q6600 it may be different, my the manual (p.52) says =
CPU Host Frequency (Mhz)
Allows you to manually set the CPU host frequency. This item is configurable only if the CPU Host Clock Control option is enabled.
The adjustable range is from 100 MHz to 700 MHz.
For an 800 MHz FSB CPU, set this item to 200 MHz.
For a 1066 MHz FSB CPU, set this item to 266 MHz.
For a 1333 MHz FSB CPU, set this item to 333 MHz.
Important It is highly recommended that the CPU frequency be set in accordance with the CPU specifications.
I could get mine to anywhere I wanted to be.
thats just telling you what the mobo can be set to do. Its no guarantee that it will do it. Im extremely confident that it cant do 700 as the world record is somewhere around 650 i think.
Captain Hilts
04-07-08, 12:46 PM
Yeah I've just tried a slight bump to the PCI-e voltage, just 0.1v. Like you I'm not sure why this would help at all but I just tried it out because I've seen some suggesting it.
I should mention too that I'm using the latest bios, F8 I believe
Captain Hilts
04-07-08, 02:36 PM
Perhaps it's necessary to cool the mosfets? I haven't checked to see how hot they are.
You shouldnt need to if your running less than 1.5 - 1.6. you could put a fan on them to see if it helps.
Captain Hilts
04-08-08, 08:48 AM
Looks like it's the ram. Even though it can run at 800 when the FSB is at 333 (using the 2.4 multiplier), it won't run at 800 when synced with the FSB. I tested it out on another board (that I know is capable of a 400 FSB) and got the same result. I also popped in my Corsair XMS on the P35 board and have been able to hit an FSB of 425 stable (I don't think the memory can handle much more than that). So I'm going to see if I can exchange the memory and then retest with that.
By the way, another strange result. I can boot (with the Corsair) at 400x6 and 400x8. But when I try 400x7, it won't post. I've had boards in the past that didn't like certain multis so it looks like this one doesn't like the 7x multi (or at least this bios doesn't).
Looks like it's the ram. Even though it can run at 800 when the FSB is at 333 (using the 2.4 multiplier), it won't run at 800 when synced with the FSB. I tested it out on another board (that I know is capable of a 400 FSB) and got the same result. I also popped in my Corsair XMS on the P35 board and have been able to hit an FSB of 425 stable (I don't think the memory can handle much more than that). So I'm going to see if I can exchange the memory and then retest with that.
By the way, another strange result. I can boot (with the Corsair) at 400x6 and 400x8. But when I try 400x7, it won't post. I've had boards in the past that didn't like certain multis so it looks like this one doesn't like the 7x multi (or at least this bios doesn't).
good to know you found the problem... what voltage were you running the RAM at?
i havnt heard of a board not liking a multi before. maybe try updating the BIOS?
Captain Hilts
04-08-08, 11:08 AM
I tried upping the ram voltage to 2.3v and it still wouldn't boot. Default voltage on the ram is supposed to be 1.9-2.1v.
This is the latest BIOS, but it's possible that a previous version wouldn't have the same problem with the multi. I'll worry about that later though after I swap the ram, I'm not too worried about that anyway.
I tried upping the ram voltage to 2.3v and it still wouldn't boot. Default voltage on the ram is supposed to be 1.9-2.1v.
This is the latest BIOS, but it's possible that a previous version wouldn't have the same problem with the multi. I'll worry about that later though after I swap the ram, I'm not too worried about that anyway.
shame bout the RAM. im guessing u loosened the timeings?...
you could try an older BIOS but IMHO its not worth it.
Captain Hilts
04-08-08, 03:01 PM
Yeah I even tried something like 6-6-6-18. Even if it did work with those timings I'd return them though, because they're rated for 4-4-4-15 at 800
Yeah I even tried something like 6-6-6-18. Even if it did work with those timings I'd return them though, because they're rated for 4-4-4-15 at 800
oh.. yeah.. looks like they didnt want to go any further
Captain Hilts
04-09-08, 04:56 PM
Well I swapped the ram for a new pair and I'm having the same problem, won't boot when synced at a 400 FSB. I might see if I can just ditch the ram and go with another brand.
Well I swapped the ram for a new pair and I'm having the same problem, won't boot when synced at a 400 FSB. I might see if I can just ditch the ram and go with another brand.
thats very strange. i would definately try a diff BIOS just to make sure.
Captain Hilts
04-09-08, 06:16 PM
actually I'm trying on my 965P board (the one in my sig) and I know that this one does 400 FSB easily. Maybe the OCZ just isn't very good memory, it's pretty cheap afterall
actually I'm trying on my 965P board (the one in my sig) and I know that this one does 400 FSB easily. Maybe the OCZ just isn't very good memory, it's pretty cheap afterall
hmm.. not good.
yeah, just get some diff ram.. I love my crucial balistix 6400s,theyr awesome. been into windows with them at 590Mhz 5-5-5-12 :D
Just got myself a DS3L, my older intel 945 based mobo has better dividers, you could take the memory below 1:1 on the Gigabyte P35 mobo its 1:1 or higher so if you have a chip with a low multiplier you have to have very good memory, isnt there a way to get a divider to go below 1:1?
thanks
Captain Hilts
04-13-08, 02:04 AM
Just got myself a DS3L, my older intel 945 based mobo has better dividers, you could take the memory below 1:1 on the Gigabyte P35 mobo its 1:1 or higher so if you have a chip with a low multiplier you have to have very good memory, isnt there a way to get a divider to go below 1:1?
thanks
Unfortunately not, I don't think any of the P35 boards support lower dividers but I could be wrong
Unfortunately not, I don't think any of the P35 boards support lower dividers but I could be wrong
sad but true... thats why i use the old double sided ballistix stock is 400Mhz and iv had em at 600 5-5-5-12 2.2v :D
Captain Hilts
04-14-08, 01:22 PM
So I swapped the memory and it seems to be working better now. At first the new ram would not do 400 sync with the bus on my other board (Gigabyte 965p) but now it's doing 400 sync on the P35 board. I'll probably end up settling on a lower FSB anyway though since the 7x multi still isn't working and 8x will be too high for a 400 FSB with this chip.
Captain Hilts
04-14-08, 01:23 PM
btw I was running this memory at around 470 when running it async with the FSB, but it wouldn't do 450 sync with the bus (though who knows it could be the board crapping out at that point).
btw I was running this memory at around 470 when running it async with the FSB, but it wouldn't do 450 sync with the bus (though who knows it could be the board crapping out at that point).
strange... could be the board but i wouldnt have thought so. they can do higher FSBs than that.
I just got the ga-ep35c-ds3r from the egg and am waiting on my q6600 from fry's... I am excited to build it! Hopefully I can figure out the bios to get to 2.6-3Ghz on stock hsf...
2therock
04-18-08, 04:10 PM
I just got the ga-ep35c-ds3r from the egg and am waiting on my q6600 from fry's... I am excited to build it! Hopefully I can figure out the bios to get to 2.6-3Ghz on stock hsf...
Should be no problem. My GA-EP35-DS3R does well.
yeah... if u got good cooling then 3Ghz should be a doddle.
devvingiorgio
04-24-08, 10:47 AM
anyone running the beta F12f bios on the P35-DS3r ? any issues afterwards, benefits ?
Didnt know it was out.... i may try it if i get time. im running F11 atm with no problems.
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