Cel 1.2 g Tual. info...

[OC2K]

I am using Tul. 1.2 g Cel. (just installed it yesterday)...with a Asus Tusl-c ....it went straight to 1.5 gig at default voltage right out of the box. Although I backed it down to 1.2 til I get a little burn in time. It actually posted at 1.6 but windows wouldn't go (of course I didnt boost voltage yet either).

My questions are this...what temps are you guys getting? I have a Pal 6035 w/ Papst 612 fan 30 cfm ...running at standard volts..39c (not overclocked)...seems high to me. My highest temp under Sandra burn in was 43c...so not really that much difference. Another thing is that these temps are logged by MBM 5.1 as 39-43c but Sandra is seeing them at 19-26c (whats up with that?)

Also, when at 1.5 g I started having problems with an older IBM Deskstar ATA 33 drive....at 41 on the pci bus it corrupted my System Volume Info files and I had to run CHKDSK /F to fix it...my other drives ATA100 and 2 10K SCSI drives did fine. Would be nice to have a better divider on the pci bus like the new GA-60XET board.

Any secrets to getting the pci bus stable at higher FSB's?

Anyway, please post your temps and FSB's so I/we can compare notes.

Thanks

OC2K

[MilkPowder-2]

Originally posted by OC2K


Also, when at 1.5 g I started having problems with an older IBM Deskstar ATA 33 drive....at 41 on the pci bus it corrupted my System Volume Info files and I had to run CHKDSK /F to fix it...my other drives ATA100 and 2 10K SCSI drives did fine. Would be nice to have a better divider on the pci bus like the new GA-60XET board.

Any secrets to getting the pci bus stable at higher FSB's?



Your HD getting system files corrupt is highly likely due to not enough Vcore voltage. Default voltage maybe enough to boot your system but may not be fully provided for your CPU/system to run at that speed. All you need is a **slight** lack of voltage or fluctuation line that causes it to corrupt your data in the HD. With having higher voltage(have a notch higher for example) would give you more room for the voltage fluctuation to be within range where it's safe enough to not corrupt data in the HD. The two main cause of HD get corrupt files are HD not being able to handle the overclocked bus speed Or, CPU not getting enough voltage to run it sufficiently can cause it too. But in your case, and with these days Hard drives are quite damn overclock-friendly. I don't think it is your HD. Try upping the Vcore One notch and repeatedly restart your system and run some heavy applications to test it. you'll likely see the change. let us know the result.

[ol' man]

Should have stayed clear of that tusl2. You will not see a higher OC than what you have right now unless you can run that chip at 134fsb. Yeah 134fsb it is not a typo. Personally that board stinks. I used a pal on my chip and from experience you will hit 1.6GHz if you can boot the bios screen at default vcore. I would though lap the IHS slightly(very lightly with 2000grit) otherwise you will probably not get the best contact. The pal6035 is sufficient.

You need the newer bios and all should be well. Then you will be able to hit 1.675v which should be enough for you. You do do not have the option of 1/4 dividers under 133fsb with the tusl2. If you do a search for my name I have went over why the tusl2 is not the OC'rs dream board. I had data corruption over around 40MHz pci too on the tusl2 but on my abit board I can hit 42+MHz with the exact same components. The problem is the tusl2 chipset configuration. The ABIT ST6 or GB boards would have been better choices as also the BD133u in most cases. Some BD133u's are duds though as funnyperson has shown.

Experience has shown me that the ST6 is the best at the moment but I plan on getting the GB board soon. It had better be all it is cracked up to be or I will be pi***** cause if it isn't I would rather stay with my ABIT ST6. I love this board and the price is very nice:)

[OC2K]

Yah...I have had 2 prior Abit boards, the bh6 and bf6, both were good oc'ers. Dont know why I switched, I guess it is because in the data base there are alot of Tusl2-c's in the running for high marks....anyway....i wish they would have come out with the 1/5 or 1/6 divider before now...I am surprised that Abit or Asus either one hasn't done it...that Gig. board out to be awesome for OC. If you get one ...let us know how it does....I am going to up my voltage a bit and see where it gets me... seems some are running 1.8v fairly safely. I will let you know.....

[ol' man]

Originally posted by OC2K
Yah...I have had 2 prior Abit boards, the bh6 and bf6, both were good oc'ers. Dont know why I switched, I guess it is because in the data base there are alot of Tusl2-c's in the running for high marks....anyway....i wish they would have come out with the 1/5 or 1/6 divider before now...I am surprised that Abit or Asus either one hasn't done it...that Gig. board out to be awesome for OC. If you get one ...let us know how it does....I am going to up my voltage a bit and see where it gets me... seems some are running 1.8v fairly safely. I will let you know.....

Yeah you can't really beat ABIT and I have a hunch that the ST6 casper edition had some other goodies these ST6's don;t like maybe a 1/5 divider or something. I do know the casper went to 1.825v without a hitch so the PCB layout was a little different.

In the future man stick with what you know is good persoanlly. For me that has been ABIT. I have had a BH6, BE6-II and now this ST6. All wonderful boards. Somethink it is a real problem if you have to make do with a wire trick to get to 1.8v on this ST6 but I say big deal. It works very well and takes but minutes. Likw I said to get to 1.825v on the tusl2 you will nbeed to do the wire trick too but I doubt you will need it. I also would maybe tone down the VIO to the lowest voltage you can which I think is 3.4v. That should help maybe stability and heat production. My ST6 is stuck at 3.3v but is a tank!

[Newbie_Doo]

Gee Stan,

I didn't think we'd be seeing you back so soon. Change of heart?

Anthony

[MilkPowder-2]

Hey Anthony how's it hangin :D

Btw, my name isn't Stan. That's just some random name I put in my email address account so as the any other type of accounts so no one really knows what my real name is hehehehe.. :D but nice try though. Oh yeah man I couldn't help myself so I had to come back here. It's so addicting and couldn't handle not coming to this board. So I come back and figured as long as I don't personally attack anyone here my fanny won't get kicked out again. I don't have problem with that. :D Btw, I have plenty other forum sites to go to for [H.]arder hardcore overclocking, But this site is where I been here for long long time. Actually I was here since mid 1999 with different username. It's like home. I can't just leave here hehe.. im sure u understand what I mean :D I hope you didn't take it bad what I replied to your email a while back. That was all fun man, not mean to offend you at all. Besides I like you. I like Shadow. You and Shadow rock man. :cool:

Edit: Oh I forgot.. Ol'man comes here often nowdays and I get bored if he aint with me over at other site so I had to jump in.. Cheers! :D

[Bonka]

Originally posted by OC2K
My questions are this...what temps are you guys getting? I have a Pal 6035 w/ Papst 612 fan 30 cfm ...running at standard volts..39c (not overclocked)...seems high to me. My highest temp under Sandra burn in was 43c...so not really that much difference. Another thing is that these temps are logged by MBM 5.1 as 39-43c but Sandra is seeing them at 19-26c (whats up with that?)


Your temps are quite high for idle and not OCed. You may want to check the temps in the bios (if they can be trusted) and see how they compare to your readings in Sandra and MBM. To give you an idea, I'm at 1.2 (not OCed), with idle temps reading at 28c/32c, and amazingly, NO CASE COOLING whatsoever. This is all done with a Volcano II beater crap. Your alpha should be kicking some cheeks.

[MilkPowder-2]

Originally posted by Bonka


Your temps are quite high for idle and not OCed. You may want to check the temps in the bios (if they can be trusted) and see how they compare to your readings in Sandra and MBM. To give you an idea, I'm at 1.2 (not OCed), with idle temps reading at 28c/32c, and amazingly, NO CASE COOLING whatsoever. This is all done with a Volcano II beater crap. Your alpha should be kicking some cheeks.

Bonka, read his quote again. He did not say "idle". He said "Sandra burn-in". That means Burn-in, CPU burn in. Those kind of test literately torture your CPU to death. They are the highest rating in raising the CPU temp higher than any other torturing tests. So, actually that temp he reported at default Vcore is good. Reasonable. No offense to you at all. Im just correcting you. :D

[ol' man]

Originally posted by OC2K
I am using Tul. 1.2 g Cel. (just installed it yesterday)...with a Asus Tusl-c ....it went straight to 1.5 gig at default voltage right out of the box. Although I backed it down to 1.2 til I get a little burn in time. It actually posted at 1.6 but windows wouldn't go (of course I didnt boost voltage yet either).

My questions are this...what temps are you guys getting? I have a Pal 6035 w/ Papst 612 fan 30 cfm ...running at standard volts..39c (not overclocked)...seems high to me. My highest temp under Sandra burn in was 43c...so not really that much difference. Another thing is that these temps are logged by MBM 5.1 as 39-43c but Sandra is seeing them at 19-26c (whats up with that?)

Also, when at 1.5 g I started having problems with an older IBM Deskstar ATA 33 drive....at 41 on the pci bus it corrupted my System Volume Info files and I had to run CHKDSK /F to fix it...my other drives ATA100 and 2 10K SCSI drives did fine. Would be nice to have a better divider on the pci bus like the new GA-60XET board.

Any secrets to getting the pci bus stable at higher FSB's?

Anyway, please post your temps and FSB's so I/we can compare notes.

Thanks

OC2K

You should always tell what your ambient temps are? Your temps seem way too high for being at stock vcore and hurtz.

I am at 1.7v/1500MHz and ambient is 70 deg. F/ 22deg. C and idle temps are around 34 deg. C I think load will be around 37 deg. C tops. I am also using a pal6035 with a modified duct with a 80mm on it besides the 60mm on the alpha but in the open air without the duct temps are same with the duct in tact or maybe even a little better. Make sure case flow is good! I always test my chip outside of the case before I put it into it so I know where temps should be at and other things!

[Bonka]

I assumed he was at idle since he mentioned MBM and I neglected to complete the sentence with Sandra in it. Anyways though, I've got a bad habit of always assuming idle temps first, probably b/c I've yet to do any benchmarking with my own system b/c of what I think is a crappy cooling system, which leaves me nothing but idle specs :(

[OC2K]

Actually....the idle temp is 39c but the reason (as I found out) is that my mid tower has the frigg'n power supply right in front of the cpu fan...I have pal6035 w/ Papst 60mm 30cfm fan and the fan is 1/4 inch away from a vent on the PS which is drawing hot air off the PS right into the fan which is pouring hot air right into my cpu. Therefore...I have order'd a full tower (should be here next week) and this should solve the problem.

I also have 2 120mm case fans and 1 80mm case fan in the case so this should not be this warm at all. I also have 2 SCSI 10k drives (which put out alot of heat) and 2 IDE drives, 1 cdrom and 1 CD writer... I will post the new temps after I move everything into the new case.