View Full Version : Very HOT!!! (HELP!)
rycherous
12-24-01, 07:05 PM
Hey guys,
I have a trouble with heating on my AMD XP1600+!! I'm sitting at 61C idle and 72C full load!
But my system temperature is 39C. I don't think my XP is gonna last very long going like this
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
My setup:
ASUS A7V266-E Motherboard
AMD XP1600+ (Unoverclocked) + Thermoengine V60-4225 HSF (CPU Core: 1.75V)
Pioneer DVD ROM 6x
ACER CDRW 10x8x32
NVidia TNT2 Riva M64 AGP
Digi001 PCI Card
SBLive! PCI Card
AOpen 250W Power supply
Everyone says my cpu should sit around 45-50C... but mine is way too high!
Room Temp: 32C
System Temp: 39C
CPU Temp: 61-72C
I'd appreciate any help I can get!!!
Thanks people!
OK One of the definte problems is the air flow in your case. 32 Degrees room temp is sort of nuts!
How many case fans do you have in your case?
If you have a spare comp that can get into the internet than turn this thing off for now, before it burns or something.
pappypete
12-24-01, 07:26 PM
You might want to check the PSU Requirment for your CP.
THat is hot!!!!!
Originally posted by pappypete
You might want to check the PSU Requirment for your CP.
THat is hot!!!!!
The PSU shouldn't having anything to do with cooling in this case.
As its the cooling at the moment.
That is REALLY hot. I would turn it off and identify the problem right away. My first inclination is to clean, reapply thermal paste and remount the heat sink. Take the case off and place a small fan next to it and see what you are getting. Go from there. The case I would leave off until you have located the trouble.
Originally posted by Silver
That is REALLY hot. I would turn it off and identify the problem right away. My first inclination is to clean, reapply thermal paste and remount the heat sink. Take the case off and place a small fan next to it and see what you are getting. Go from there. The case I would leave off until you have located the trouble.
Its defintely the air being sucked in !
I mean that is kinda crazy your room temp is 32 Celius and air inside your case is 35 Celius... Your heatsink is just sucking in hot air.
Originally posted by Silver
That is REALLY hot. I would turn it off and identify the problem right away. My first inclination is to clean, reapply thermal paste and remount the heat sink. Take the case off and place a small fan next to it and see what you are getting. Go from there. The case I would leave off until you have located the trouble.
Definitely a problem! Is the ambient correct? Pretty warm to start with, so you have a fight on your hands!
I've got a couple of thermoengine hsfs- better than oem, but not great. However, with a good lap job and AS2 AND LOW AMBIENT TEMPS it'll do ya. My thermos are both in the basement, and the one on my XP has a 7000 rpm delta on it! That one runs cool!
I don't trust mobo sensors too much, but my cpu temp is 35c, case is also 35c(!) and ambient is around 19c.
Before the delta I had the stock fan on the sink and temp was around 45c or so........
wow....thats hot....i guess there isn't more you can do with your system temp, even if you add more fans, they will just sucking more hot air in....but your cpu temp is WAY too hot....try to wipe out those old thermal paste, and re-applied some AS2.....but first thing first, try to cool down your ambient temp....
DodgeViper
12-24-01, 11:42 PM
Make sure you have good air flow through the case. Also check to make sure the HS fan is blowing onto the HS. My case temps as I write are 26c and CPU 42c. I would have the sides off until you repair this problem. 26c is 78 degree's. Your case should be near the ambient temps within the area that your computer sits in. I would find it hard to believe that your ambient temps in your office or home is 39c.
selector
12-25-01, 12:18 AM
i thought my system was running hot asus a7v266-e with xp 1600 with 2x case fan 8mm,my system runs at 52 to 55 i pulled the side cover off and put a desk fan on full and drop it cpu down to 48 stable.but it is hot down here in austraila about 35 just boiling up.good luck trying to fix the rig up.
nil_esh
12-25-01, 12:45 AM
Damn man I thought my Florida temps were bad (I got my AC set to 80F/26.6C and my room gets up to 84F sometimes). Those are some rough ambient temps.. You should definitely hang around these forums for a while and get some ideas on what you can do.
As a temporary solution you can underclock to reduce temps a little. You should have good case cooling to start. Having just one fan blowing air out the back (other than PSU fan) will make a big difference (over having no case fans).
nil_esh
12-25-01, 12:48 AM
btw your system/case temp should be no more than 1 or 2 degrees higher than your room temp. So 39C is suggesting that your case cooling isn't doing it.
CrystalMethod
12-25-01, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by tsunami
The PSU shouldn't having anything to do with cooling in this case.
As its the cooling at the moment.
Sure it does, the Aopen 250W PSU's are closed off on the bottom (depending on the model), and won't exaust the air like a good quality twin fan PSU PSU's exaust more than most people think they do). I'd check to see if you have the latest bios for that board, I'm not 100% sure but I think that the older bios for that mobo had trouble reading the temps correctly. Also make sure you're using a quality thermal grease and not a thermal pad.
Usually the dual fan PSU like Enermax both fans are exhausting.
But if you look his room temperature is 32 Celius which is very hot for room temps.
like crystal said...make sure u remove the thermal pad....it acts more like a thermal insulator when compared to AS2
and make sure the heat sink is in contact with the core fully and firmly.
i placed my cooler master heat pipe HSF the other way because the northbridge fan is blocking the pipe and a small part of the core is not in full contact with the HSF due to the raised part of socket A..
lucky for me the AS2 still allow heat to flow between them..(but i got Prime95 errors once i hit 1.6g with 1600+) after i placed the HSF the other way (i have to shift my northbridge fan)..now i run at 1.7 (almost) stable...and 45/46 idle..52/53 full load
TranceBear
12-25-01, 01:58 PM
A good quality H/S/fan and 2 good case fans is all you need for good airflow. Putting a house fan on a open case is just a temporary fix for a much larger problem. In my new case I have just an enermaw dual fan P/S, 1-80mm intake, 1-80mm exhaust and look at my temps in my sig. Some of you guys are probaly not taking advantage of ACPI or APM. There is such a thing as putting too many fans in a system. I am attaching a pic of my summer temps and winter temps.
summer first
TranceBear
12-25-01, 01:59 PM
winter, current
32c in the room, get a water cooler for you. LOL Hope you get it solved with better air flow and a cold front.
LS
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Placing a house fan blowing on an open case is only to help identify a problem and to show maximum cooling potential. If in fact all is well and the ambient is to remain in the 30+ celcius range then I would take a serious look at water cooling. A good bong cooler may perform rather nicely in an environment this hot.
Greedy Guido
12-26-01, 04:40 AM
In sunny Brisbane, Australia it go to 39°C today. It was also very Humid.
My case temp hit (system temp) 41°C but my CPU peaked at 35°C. Love my JARON Deep Freeze water cooling block and cooling tower.
If you are in an area with very high ambient temps then go water cooling. Don't waste time with a radiator, make yourself a cooling tower. They are cheaper and will cool below ambient temp.
selector
12-26-01, 08:17 AM
yes it is very hot in brisvagas,is home made water coolers ok?,is it hard to make?and where can you get?
One good way to check the airflow in your case is to take the side off and see how much your temp drops. that should tell you if your case has enough airflow. if it drops alot then you need some more fans on it. if not then its probably a something to do with your HSF. Check the bottom of it to make sure it smooth, even if it is I would bet it could still use a bit of lapping.
Also what are you useing to get your temps, motherboards have been known to be a lil off "I've never heard of them being that far off though"
With your HSF if you have to much greese, AS2...or what ever you use, that could be the problem also, you just need a very thin layer over it to transfer the heat.
I hope this helps.
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