8800GTX= 3dmark06 3300 pts!?!?!?

[MofiatcH]

So i just get done setting up my new rig and i decide to give my 8800gtx a go before i do some overclocking and to my surprise my 3dmark06 runs like a commodore 64.
I dont really know what the problem is, im using the most updated driver 169.25 and in riva tuner it shows the correct clock speeds.
Is it possible that the card is damaged somehow, I dont think so considering I have a perfect picture with no artifacts anywhere.
Any suggestions are appreciated! *see signature for hardware*

[grunjee]

Maybe you have AA cranked up, or a super high resolution, or both? That score is way low.

Can't see your sig or specs btw.

[redrumy3]

specs would be great :D

[pinoy3000]

Ye, whats your system specs? Also, are you running the default settings on 3DMark? Cuz it could be that you have all settings on 3DMark at the highest settings.

[jivetrky]

Taken from the sig displayed in his profile page (must not have the option to tack it on to posts)

Antec 900
Intel Q6600
Abit IP35 Pro
Evga 8800GTX
4x 250gb Seagate Matrix Raid 0/5
Antec 850 Quatro
Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme
Thermalright HR-03



With a machine like that, i would bet he was running 3DMark06 with very high resolution or AA settings.

If you want a good measurement that you can use to compare to others, you have to leave the settings at DEFAULTS

If that is not the case, then you might try reinstalling all of your drivers (motherboard chipset drivers, video drivers, etc)

[reboot]

pci-e running in 1x i asume

[nd4spdbh2]

pci-e running in 1x i asume

that is probably the culprit...

OP download cpuz

http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php

and run it and go to the mainboard tab

look down at the Graphics interface section... what does it say for link width, and max supported?

[jason4207]

^that my 1st thought.

[MofiatcH]

well i checkd my pci-e bandwith and it shows 16x in cpu-z, is there another benchmark i can use to test my graphics?

*edit* i just checked my 3dmark06 settings and they are set to the defualt 1280x1024 no aa. So i have no clue now.

[sk1llz]

Could you download gpu-z v0.1.5 and check under "Bus interface" and tell what it's showing there too?

Click for gpu-z v0.1.5 download (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/896e/GPU-Z.0.1.5.exe)

[Maverick0984]

well i checkd my pci-e bandwith and it shows 16x in cpu-z, is there another benchmark i can use to test my graphics?

*edit* i just checked my 3dmark06 settings and they are set to the defualt 1280x1024 no aa. So i have no clue now.

There are 2 entires, one is the supported width and the other is the current running width. I forget the exact terminology used, but it should say x16 twice.

[MofiatcH]

well heres a screenshot of gpu-z for confirmation

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6734/gpuzqo3.jpg

[WonderingSoul]

Have you tried running 3dmark again?

[shard]

Reinstall drivers?

[MofiatcH]

just ran 5 minutes ago...however i have a sneaking suspision that it might be running at more then 1280x1024.
Im using a 40" lcd tv as monitor at 1920x1080p and when i do the benchmark it fills the whole screen with picture without stretching? so im not sure it is actually at the defualt res like it says, what do you think?
Is there another program i can use to determine that status of my graphics and or cpu?

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1426/servedtm4.jpg

[MofiatcH]

Well i took a look at other peoples results on ORB and i noticed that my CPU results are normal and it is just my SM 2.0 and 3.0 scores that are skewed.
Do you think i need to reinstall my drivers and exactly which drivers do i need to reinstall?

[sk1llz]

How about your powersupply? It might be failing, not giving you enough juice.


If you're running 3dm06 unregistered, there is no way to change the resolution, so it should be 1280x1024.
But if you do got it registered, try setting 1920x1080 manually and then benchmark to see if the score is the same!

[MofiatcH]

I just tested 3dmark06 at 1920x1080 and i got a score of like 2500. Im going to try to reinstall my drivers and see if that helps.
About the powersupply, how can i tell if its getting enough power or not?
I read some articles about how some old models of the Antec 850 & 1000 watt power supplys were not working with the 8800GTX, but in all those cases users were getting nvidia sentinal error messages.

[Fhaarkas]

Out of curiosity, have you tried running some games with the system?

Also, surely all the cables are intact? For example, the PCIe connectors are two instead of one? And not some multi-head single connector?

Just trying to be a checklist ;).

[Drinkyoghurt]

see if it's inserted in the slot correctly, I still think that his PCI-E bus is set to 1x

[MofiatcH]

So i reinstalled my nvidia drivers and im still getting the same weaksauce performance.
I then decided to load up a game to test the fps and when i load up any of my steam games (team fortress2, halflife2, portal) *only thing i got installed right now* the screen glitches out and gets all funky.
However before it glitched out i noticed the max it would allow me to set the video settings is 1600x1200.
So I went ahead and checked my monitor driver info and im running off a "Generic PnP Monitor" driver with a max res of 1600x1200 even though my desktop is at 1920x1080p right now.
So right now i dont even know what to do! I dont know if its my software, my 8800, or my monitor!?!?! Any more suggestions on what steps to take to track down the problem would be much appreciated!

-Here are some screenshots showing my drivers and my card at full clock speeds

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/936/driverly9.jpg
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9254/driver2oq5.jpg
http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/2575/driver3mq3.jpg
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/3126/driver4yz1.jpg

[g14novak]

For the steam game fixes, pull up the game menu. Right click on the game you want to play, go to settings, and click launch properties.

Type "-w 1920; -h 1080" without the " (of course).

That will fix your res problem.



And about the 3dmark score, have you tried hooking it up to a smaller monitor so it cant use the larger resolution and is stuck at something small like 1024x768?

[MofiatcH]

ok i loaded up half life2 at 1920x1080p and it looked good for 1 sec then the whole screen glitched out again.
Also as of now i only have my 1 monitor/tv as my other smaller 19" lcd broke.

-Heres the glitched out graphics
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/733/glitchuv1.jpg

[Fhaarkas]

In my newbie opinion, your problem is either insufficient voltage/juice, PCI-E set to 1x as suggested by reboot and Drinkyoghurt or you just have a plain bad card that has RMA stamped all over it.

My newbie suggestions:

1 -- Check your PCI-E speed in BIOS (is it possible??)
2 -- Double check all the connections. Though if I'm not mistaken, GTXes should cry some loud buzz if you happen to forget one PCI-E connector?
3 -- See #2
4 -- The card is probably bad. Just a newbie guess that should be taken with a bowl of salt.

Mind reporting your temps?

[MofiatcH]

Right now im running at 52c idle.

1. Well for the PCI-E speed its says 16x of a max 16x in cpu-z gpu-z and in nvidia settings. Im gonna dig around in the bios though to be super sure.

2. I guess i could try reseating the card. However rivatuner reports standard clock speeds and from what ive heard if the card dosent get enough power it will underclock itself to prevent damage. I will also try some different pci-e 6 pin connectors to see if thats the problem.

4. If for some reason the card is bad can i RMA it after i already installed the HR-03. I use AS5 on the GPU heatsink, but for the memchips i used Arctic thermal epoxy so i dunno if i can take off the memsinks!? Its an EVGA so i think im covered under warranty when u change out the cooling?

[karlthomas102]

hi saw that you core clockspeed it only 575mhz i have a 8800gts xxx from xfx whitch comes 600 stock iv got it to a stable 700mhz just wonderd why a 8800gtx is lower stock speed than a gts i have 51c load

[karlthomas102]

oh and just saw your pic og the game have you tryed changing the anit-analysing to diffrent settings that helped me

[shard]

Yeah, you can RMA it if is a defect such as that. Do a few more tests, but I think in the end you just have a bum GTX.

[MofiatcH]

If i RMA is there anyway to get the memsinks off after using thermal epoxy or am i SOL?

[pinoy3000]

What Vista Version are you using? 64 or 32 Bit?

Download these following Drivers...

Vista 64 Bit - ftp://ftp.evga.com/driver/169.25_VISTA64.exe

Vista 32 Bit - ftp://ftp.evga.com/driver/169.25_VISTA32.exe

Try doing that and see if it will solve the issue.

[winterone]

What would be a good score for a 8800 gtx...stock? Im at 7858....?

[pinoy3000]

What would be a good score for a 8800 gtx...stock? Im at 7858....?

My GTS 640MB Card had a stock score of 9280 running at all stock speeds with Q6600. When I had my E6600 I had a stock score of 8362

Here are the scores....


Stock E6600 and 8800GTS - http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=9588644

Stock Q6600 and 8800GTS - http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=10918718

[icantfindone]

I am at 14634 points with my GTX and the Q6600 overclocked. When I first overclocked my quad, I had the same problem with 3dMark06 running horribly slow, artifacting in games (not so much in CS:S, but more in Crysis and Hellgate London). I finally resolved the issue by changing my PCI-E bus speed to 105 from the default 100. Been running silky smooth ever since.

You might try overclocking your PCI-E bus by 5-10 mhz, and see if it fixes your problem. On the Asus mobo I have, when I raise the FSB above 350, it slows the PCI-e slot down to a single lane, but it still reports it running at 16x, and is remedied by overclocking the pci-e bus slightly.

[ChinStrap]

pinoy - both links dead.

and unless your a pro user, you can only post one compare link at a time. i would take a screen shot with the SM2, 3 and CPU scores :)

[pinoy3000]

pinoy - both links dead.

and unless your a pro user, you can only post one compare link at a time. i would take a screen shot with the SM2, 3 and CPU scores :)

I am a pro user. The link is not dead for me. I can see it :D Hm... Weird.

Oh, maybe you have to logout from the website. If you are logged in, it will think that you are trying to submit those scores as yours but its not yours so it acts as if it was a dead link.

[Darur]

Have you tried reinstalling DirectX? I've seen bad installs behave similar to this.

[joesaiditstrue]

sounds like a damaged GTX

if it were something as simple as a bios setting being off or a driver not installed properly, you'd see this problem a bit more frequently on a message board. as it stands this is the first time i've ever seen anyone w/ this severe of a problem w/ an 8800 GTX

it's either the card, or possibly a power supply issue, that's where i'd lay my money down ;)

[Fhaarkas]

It is not quite a first time actually. There have been a several reports of similar cases. But unfortunately, there's no definitive explanation that I can find. Either way, it does sound like a bad card or bad PSU.

Definitely not the Dark Seekers though.

[mikesierra]

I am having this same problem... just started today. I have never had this problem before, until I was playing Crysis today and reached the Ice level. As soon as it loaded, my PC took a dump and I was playing Crysis in slideshow mode. I have tried all sorts of stuff to fix it, but nothing has worked. I can still play games with decreased performance, but Crysis barely runs now. Before, it ran smooth as butter.

It should be noted that I have the exact same PSU and GPU as you.

[mikesierra]

WOW! I'm almost positive we are experiencing the exact same problem here.

My SM2.0 Score: 1203
My HDR/SM3.0 Score: 1175

That is barely a few points away from yours. My CPU differs score differs greatly, which makes me believe this is a GPU issue.

[mikesierra]

SOLVED on my system. I had to unplug the AUX PEX power connector on my 680i. It provides auxiliary power to video cards that require more, but the 8800 GTX has its own connectors, and thus does not need require it. I had this unplugged before I put in a new HSF and hard drive, and whenever the 8800's power connectors were loose, windows would tell me that the video card isn't receiving enough power. It stopped sending me this message because I had the other AUX power connector plugged in. Based on my experience, I would say that your video card isn't getting enough power, although I think that's been established. The only strange part is that Windows isn't sending you that message. You might want to check if your mobo also has AUX power for video cards.

[Fhaarkas]

That would make some sense. If the AUX controller somehow overrides the dedicated PCI-E connectors, I guess it makes some sense..

[Clockwork_Apple]

You might try overclocking your PCI-E bus by 5-10 mhz, and see if it fixes your problem. On the Asus mobo I have, when I raise the FSB above 350, it slows the PCI-e slot down to a single lane, but it still reports it running at 16x, and is remedied by overclocking the pci-e bus slightly.
You beat me to it, I read through this thread thinking the same thing.

Regardless of what CPU-Z and GPU-Z are showing, the behaviour of the card points to your PCI-E slot running at 1x.

Try overclocking the PCI-E bus speed from the stock value of 100 up to and including 105, ie. try 101, 102, 103... etc.

[MofiatcH]

Well first of all i would like to thank all of the people who took time to write feedback on this matter!

Secondly I have indeed solved the problem only to reveal another problem (more on that later).

It was in fact that the card was not recieving ample power as a few of you have suggested.
I tested this theroy by first making sure that the aux PCI-E 4 pin molex was pluged in to the mobo and it was indeed connected narrowing down the possibilities of power failure.
I then decided i would switch out the (2) 6/8 pin PCI-E power connectors that were hardwired to the powersupply to the (2) individular 6 pin PCI-E modular power cables and whamo full power and heres the 3dmark06 score to show it.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5498/victoryer3.jpg

I cant wait to OC this baby and put out some serious numbers. This takes a big relief off my shoulders of having to RMA the card post heatsink swap out.

Now for the other problem, when i booted up my pc after the cable switch i noticed that 1 of the hard drives in my raid array was "degraded".
At first i believed it to be insuffient power to 1 of the hard drives, however i am able to boot into windows on the raid 0 portion and it seems only the raid 5 portion is degraded.
Im confused though as i can access files normally from the raid 5
I went into intel matrix storage console to try to repair the error, however i dont see any options for doing this?

Any suggestions?

*edit* right clicked "mark as normal" in storage console and the raid 5 is now rebuilding it self, I must be paranoid after spending a good week messing with my graphics