View Full Version : HTTP server was working- now not- comcast blocking?
h0mersimps0n
01-01-08, 02:10 PM
OK, for the past 7 months I've been running my own IIS web server no problem at all using COMCAST at home and my DLINK DIR-655.
Sometime last week my web server stopped being accessible from outside IP address.
I can access all other servers I have, FTP, HTTPS, router admin, etc.
...but now the only way I can open my web server is using local IP address 192.168.etc.etc...
SO what I've tried is: (while fixing port-forwarding settings appropriately)
1.) turning off HTTP server and setting my FTP server to port 80 = FAILS
2.) turning HTTP server to port 21 or 8000 or 800 or 8080 = FAILS
3.) Turning on DMZ for my local server IP = FAILS
#1 makes me think COMCAST has blocked 80 but #2 confuses me because I should be able to get my web server to work externally on other ports.
There's no way COMCAST could block http server requests regardless of port right?
Anyone?
Thanks
EDIT: my wife needs the network today so I haven't tried moving my comp to directly plug into the cable box + circumvent the router. I'll try that tomorrow but I doubt it will work either.
Neuromancer
01-01-08, 02:13 PM
If comcast is blocking port 80 you can change IIS to port 81 IIRC.
you just have to add :81 to the end of your URL from outside the network.
h0mersimps0n
01-01-08, 02:46 PM
tried both, didn't work...
RangerXLT8
01-01-08, 03:06 PM
tried both, didn't work...
I run my server on 1080, just needs to be added to the end of the hostname. I forward 1080(external) to 80(internal).
If you are getting alot of hits that might **** them off and they might have tried to stop it.
gangaskan
01-08-08, 12:30 PM
also, try turning off windows firewall, i had this issue for a long time. it would go in and out and i would have to reboot my router. turned off the firewall, all was good.
=ACID RAIN=
01-08-08, 03:28 PM
Ports don't matter for blocking traffic, if the admin is passing it through a sniffer or intelligent router. Rules matter, such as (not proper lingo) if HTTP_WEB_REPLY is OUTGOING and PORT=* then DENY. It's that easy to block any traffic for a given service that way. Make it port 80, make it port 666, make it port whatever, doesn't matter. It's the packets that matter in this case.
Read your TOS. You're most likely violating it. If you want to host a website then you should get a business package. I have charter business and I run my mail off a static IP. Works fine for me.
phantasm
01-09-08, 07:56 AM
Read your TOS. You're most likely violating it. If you want to host a website then you should get a business package. I have charter business and I run my mail off a static IP. Works fine for me.
Comcast TOS for residential customers does not allow the use of web servers. You need a business level account in order to have web server.
Comcast TOS states:
xiv. run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp
madman22
01-09-08, 11:25 AM
Comcast TOS for residential customers does not allow the use of web servers. You need a business level account in order to have web server.
Comcast TOS states:
xiv. run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;
would that mean, for example, playing Halo3 on xbox live is against the TOS? Someone has to host the game and the other people connect to that xbox, making it a server.
So does that mean i have to pay for a business account if i want to play xbox live or host any other online games?
And im pretty sure that statement can refer to P2P filesharing, which might give them the right to limit that traffic as well.
All that being said, i run my webserver off comcast, i had a little trouble for about a month, then the problem went away for some reason.
phantasm
01-09-08, 12:31 PM
would that mean, for example, playing Halo3 on xbox live is against the TOS? Someone has to host the game and the other people connect to that xbox, making it a server.
So does that mean i have to pay for a business account if i want to play xbox live or host any other online games?
And im pretty sure that statement can refer to P2P filesharing, which might give them the right to limit that traffic as well.
All that being said, i run my webserver off comcast, i had a little trouble for about a month, then the problem went away for some reason.
According to the TOS, hosting of any sort is against their policy. Whether it be an xbox as a server or a genuine web server, it's a no go and could land you in the pot.
I know awhile ago, they had a good deal upgrading to a business class account. Not sure what tehy have now though.
nd4spdbh2
01-09-08, 12:43 PM
Comcast TOS for residential customers does not allow the use of web servers. You need a business level account in order to have web server.
Comcast TOS states:
xiv. run programs, equipment, or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to anyone outside of your Premises LAN (Local Area Network), also commonly referred to as public services or servers. Examples of prohibited services and servers include, but are not limited to, e-mail, Web hosting, file sharing, and proxy services and servers;
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp
pff every residential ISP has a tos that reads like that... i have had adelphia cable net, then timewarner and now verizon fios... all say the same thing NO SERVERS, yet i have ran a Counterstrike 1.6 server for 5 years netting over 60,000 first time visitors and over 312,000 connections running the server 24/7 with people almost always playing... and they have yet to call me up... believe me i run through so much bandwidth its not even funny.
heck yesterday i had 860 connections alone...
what im trying to say its very unlikely that they have blocked just a web server... change the port to something like 8080 and your good (i also run a web and ftp server for just my personal use for files and what not), but ISP's do block port 80 and possibly 8080 so u just gotta find out whats not blocked.
RJARRRPCGP
01-09-08, 07:11 PM
Get DSL! Cable ISPs usually ban servers in the TOS!
Cable ISPs usually suck donkey balls when it comes to servers!
The ISP I'm with, VTel don't have a clause about servers being prohibited.
But, I wished that I could try SpeakEasy for an ISP!
Because unlike any other ISPs, they are guaranteed to OK servers!
h0mersimps0n
01-09-08, 07:17 PM
yeah right like I'm going to pay a single extra penny for an already overpriced service to post pictures of little Jimmy for my family to see in South Bumble.
It was my IIS server. I uninstalled the IIS and installed a 3rd party web server and it worked right away.
eaglescouter
01-09-08, 08:45 PM
Congratulations on figuring out the blockage. IIS is a great tool, but can be less than easy to configure sometimes.
nd4spdbh2
01-09-08, 09:05 PM
yeah right like I'm going to pay a single extra penny to those overcharging F-ers to post pictures of little Jimmy for my family to see in South Bumble.
Only if I was serving to make money would I even think about paying an extra dime for a service that is already horrendously overpriced.
It was my IIS server. I uninstalled the IIS and installed a 3rd party web server and it worked right away. Fing MS and Fing IIS. My own damn fault.
Discussions about your software problem are appropriate here. Your 'F'bombs only serve to reduce our opinion of you. Please consider cleaning the crud out of your message, this is a G rated forum and your intentions are clearly coming through.
Ya serious dude chill out.
and IIS isnt bad... 6.0 at least never had expierence with 5.0 found on XP
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