razor boom slang mouse worth it?

[ozzy0627]

Hey anyone think this mouse is worth it?
http://www.razerzone.com/

Thanks ron......

ps I might buy one not sure

[It_The_Cow]

It's an excellent mouse... Until it breaks. Lots of them are failing and the company has gone out of business. Therefore, no warranties. If you think the risk is justfiable, get one. I personally wouldn't since they have no warranty for such an expensive item

[Silversinksam]

Its by far the best gaming mouse on the planet, I had two of them....



















Would I get another? NO





:eek: Now I got 2 broken boomslangs :(

[Morba]

Sorry, but your being misinformed quiet a bit here.

For one, it is THE best gaming mouse out there.
its well ugly and a pain to get used to, but once uve been using it for a week, u will wish u never had to touch another mouse again !!!!!

Razer are now back in business, and are shipping again.
Yes they may start getting faults after about 6 months, but they have always been willing to take returns and send you a reconditioned mouse for your gaming pleasure :D


You will never ever ever go near another mouse, trust me :cool:

[Crash893]

why not just get a optical they are more acurate and they work on everything

[ozzy0627]

Have an optical usb mouse....thought hell might as well get the best :) what kinda dpi an optical mouse get you know?

[mEmENTOmORI]

Well, I've played q2 for 4 years now and I tried all kind of mice including optical ones and the boomslang.

I can tell what refresh rate is set on the moose port and if there is some dirt on the rollers by only touching the mouse.

I can't say that boomslang showed something extraordinary for me. It has nice characteristics, but honestly I expected much more out of it. I don't think that I actually noticed any advantage because of the higher resolution comparing to a regular mouse with a refresh set to > 150.

I only played with it for about a week or so and that's why might be wrong, but I didn't like the design either. IMHO the boomslang is too flat, which makes lifting of the mouse quite difficult. And this is important when u turn around or jump. So when after one week I tried my regular mouse again, I just packed boomslang and took it back to the store.

Another thing. All mice are different even if they are new and of the same brand. If u're choosing a mouse for gaming, the best way to do it is to try a couple of them and to find the one that moves smoother.

Mouse pad is also kinda important. I know some people use a piece of hard paper, some don't have a mouse pad at all. It's up to u. I tried it all and finally stuck to the one that went with the mouse.

I think, intellimouse is the best mouse that was ever made especially if u look at it from the ergonomical point of view. I have Microsoft Intellimouse made for Gateway2000 - it is smooth and the wheel is soft.

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Morba
Sorry, but your being misinformed quiet a bit here.



Razer are now back in business, and are shipping again.
Yes they may start getting faults after about 6 months, but they have always been willing to take returns and send you a reconditioned mouse for your gaming pleasure :D




I spoke to them 4 weeks ago and they refused to honor thier warranty.

Maybe im misinformed, but Ive got two dead boomslangs that they wont fix nor honor thier warranty.

And thats total rubbish about them ALWAYD willing to take returns and send a reconditioned mouse.

I spent several hours trying to reach a HUMAN that actually told me he was sorry but they WOULD NOT HONOR THIER WARRANTY.

How am I misinformed? I spoke directly to them.

[Silversinksam]

Misinformed continued...


Razer Support: We are working day and night to train your new Razer support group and get Razer Customer Service and Technical Support back on-line. We realize that support has been off-line since July 8th, and that there are a few outstanding issues and questions. We promise to have some form of support up and available very soon. We do apologize for your inconvenience and will make every effort to once again provide you our customers with the great Razer support you experienced in the past.


Razer is Back (and, we’re still mad as hell)!


LMAO They are back and mad as hell but im the one thats out a few hundred dollars!!


ps the company running the sales and support CyberFactory.Com
prompt you to a answering machine and I will be anxiously awaiting hearing more nonesense about how they wont honor Karna's Warranty.

Went through all this with the other MAJOR company that was supporting Karna.

Ill fill you in if they ever call me back but Im not holding my breath

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Morba
Sorry, but your being misinformed quiet a bit here.



Razer are now back in business, and are shipping again.
Yes they may start getting faults after about 6 months, but they have always been willing to take returns and send you a reconditioned mouse for your gaming pleasure :D


You will never ever ever go near another mouse, trust me :cool:


Lastly. Morba are you associated with Karna in any way>?

Your comments about them lasting 6 months is ridiculous botrh of mine broke within 2-6 weeks each. They are poorly contructed, HAVE NO WARRANTY, despite what you claim, and you are wrong regarding going near another mouse ever again.

Im using an Intel Explorer as I refuse to dish out another $100 as you can fool me once, fool me twice but there will be no third


PS I was not hard on either boomslang nor did it ever leave my desk nor dropped or abused in any way.

Im sorry for ranting and raving but I am so ****ed off regarding Boomslangs and thier NO warranty I cant begin to tell you.

[Shadow ÒÓ]

havn't used that mouse, but I don't understand how it can be any better than my Intellimouse Explorer. I have both, the corded and the cordless.

What specifically is better? I have 5 buttons and a wheel. Assigned keys for UT are:

Translocator
Fire
Alt Fire
Best weapon
Throw weapon/relic
Scroll up for next weapon
Scroll down for previous weapon

Now can someone who plays UT tell me their config or how their mouse is more practical? I'm asking because I would consider buying one if there were any chance of improving my game.

Gotta go with ergonomics as well...the new design of the Intellimouse cordless is very nice IMHO. Easy to lift and fits my hand like a glove.

[Silversinksam]

Shadow and ALL

Excuse my ranting and raving, Discussions regarding this mouse gets my blood boiling.

Anyway Shadow, it really is awesome when it isnt broken, the 2000dpi and the flatness and extra large buttons give the boomslang a serious advantage over normal and optical mice.


They were so good at fragging in games that for a time they were outlawed by gaming competitions due to them being so effecient.


The thing is the rollers and some other internal components in the boomslang are extremely poorly constructed and many people had aluminum rollers machined so they wouldnt break. You can do a google search on Boomslang mods to see what Im talkin about.

PS Shadow just a warning if you dish out the $100 for this mouse dont expect a warranty and dont expect it to last.

[Kingslayer]

I wouldn't call a mouse that dies in 6 months the "best gaming mouse ever made". That's border line garbage. Especially when it comes with almost a $100 price tag.

And why in god's name would I buy a $100 mouse, then when it does break in 6 months, would I be happy with a company that send's me back a "refurbished" model. That is total crap.

I wouldn't buy a Crapslang if it was the only mouse on the planet....

[Morba]

well u see, it goes like this.

This is a forum for discussion between ppl of different thoughts. The person has asked a question, we should all try and answer in a way that will help, not get "blood boiling" becoz of a conversation, if Razer wont honour there warrenty then take them to court, plain and simple that one.

Yours dont last 6 weeks ??? yes companies do now and then have a few faulty products when they are mass produced.

As for the comment about it being too flat so that its hard to pick up........... wtf u need to pick the mouse up for ?????
for a 2000, an 8 inch width area should be enuff for you to do a 360 in a first person shooter, therefore its optimal at higher speeds (after all, you wouldnt buy it for looks, only for speed), im sure u dont really have to pick mouse up just to make the cursor go right across the screen !!!!

as for optimals, yes, feel a lot better in the hand, but u need to give time to the boomslang, not 1 day and think its crap, try and get used to it first, plus the boomslang is 200mhz on ps2 connection, where as some1 mentioned opticals are only 150 above.

Yes, im my opinion (and im entitled to have an opinion, i bet most ppl who comment in this thread havent even tried one properly) it is the best mouse out there. It does take getting used to and some patience, but i think its worth it, others may not.

[Silversinksam]

Morba,


You see You were not asking for a discussion as you made two declarations, one being that we are misinformed and the second this exclamation based not on assumption but a misinformed conclusion." but they have always been willing to take returns and send you a reconditioned mouse for your gaming pleasure "


I entered the discussion showing how bogus the Karna situation is.

The first thing I said was "Its by far the best gaming mouse on the planet, I had two of them.... Would I get another? NO

Now I got 2 broken boomslangs

If you want to discuss how I can get my money back or these units replaced I am all ears.









PS My "blood boiling becoz of a conversation" , isnt the case As its not the discussion that irks me off, its that I spent $200 on Razor Boomslangs that are great paperweights. I spent many hours trying to get Karna to honor thier warranty to no avail.

I bet if I took $200 from you you would be ****ed as well.

[ozzy0627]

Thanks for the input...I decided to stick with what i got...thanks again

[Morba]

if u have a warrenty, and the company wont stand by it, then u can take them to court. Simple.

The misinformed bit was about Razer being bankrupt. As you should well know by now, they are back :D

[Shadow ÒÓ]

not at all sure it would even be worth the expense of taking a company (probably in another state) to court over a $100 mouse.

that's how I beileve a lot of companies make money....knowing what they sell is really junk, but no one is going to bother.

[Crash893]

well at very least call the better buiz people

[Kingslayer]

Yep I will sit here a trash the Boomslang and I have never owned or tried one?

Why? Because of the failure rate of this product. It's just not one person that has had this mouse break...it's quite a few. That is a trend. And a bad one at that.

This is a $100 mouse. $100. That is insane for a mouse that has a track record of breaking, made by a company that is half out of business and not holding up to their warranty, and if they do, sending you a refurbished replacement.

I don't care how accurate it is, how fast it is, I dont care how it feels in my hand. If I pay $100 for a mouse it had better work like it's supposed to. The Boomslang may perform but the quality is not there, nor is the company for support.

I can buy a $15 mouse and have it work for literally years. Yet the average lifespan for a $100 Boomslang is about 6 months.

That is a bad product. You don't need to use one to see that.

[SteenkyBastage]

try a logitech trackman marble (trackball). never have to lift it, fits your hand really comfortably. all you have to move is your thumb, and it's real accurate. i cant imagine playing CS with a mouse, trying to turn around just sucks w/o a trackball.

[Kingslayer]

That is exactly what I use.

And your mouse resolution has little effect in games. I have whooped people with cheap mice, I have whooped people with Crapslangs...

A 2000 dpi mouse isn't going to turn you into a gaming superman.
Practice and a very forgiving wife will.

[ozzy0627]

Thats not the point.... I never said it would make me a master gamer...it just doesn't hurt to have every advantage.......every little bit helps...why do people spend 375 on vid cards that just gives you fractions on second on quake, compared to a gf2 ultra...which can give almost the same results....Its becuase everyone wants a slight advantage.

[Sonny]

Originally posted by ozzy0627
Hey anyone think this mouse is worth it?With all the replys on how poor the product is it's still you that decides if you want to buy it. If you think the edge it will give you is worth the problem then go ahead:beer:Originally posted by ozzy0627
Thats not the point.... I never said it would make me a master gamer...it just doesn't hurt to have every advantage.......every little bit helps...why do people spend 375 on vid cards that just gives you fractions on second on quake, compared to a gf2 ultra...which can give almost the same results....Its becuase everyone wants a slight advantage.What makes it worth it for you? Fractions of a second are enough to win games or in my case a 1000th of a second per lap is enough for me to win a race. Master Gamers will always search for the "Unfair Advantage". You want the best equipment to match your capabilities right? Think about this when I use a part on my car to get that few extra gain in lap time I also need to make sure that it would last thru the whole race if not I would be watching from the pits instead of racing. To finish first, first you have to finish.

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Morba
if u have a warrenty, and the company wont stand by it, then u can take them to court. Simple.

The misinformed bit was about Razer being bankrupt. As you should well know by now, they are back :D



Morba have you ever taken anyone to court? It costs time and money. I have even written to Steve Rosen and Sandra Goldberg, Chairman and President of Karna and they just blew me off.

[ozzy0627]

sony: No I decided not to buy the mouse....but I woould if it wouldn't break in a month :). I think for me its just something I want to have...I like to have the latest and greatest :)

Ps Who cares about finishing as long as you get to race:) I play for fun :)

[Sonny]

Originally posted by ozzy0627
Who cares about finishing as long as you get to raceTo each his own:beer:

[Kingslayer]

Play for fun all you want. But if you travel 4 hours, pay $250, lug all your computer crap to be in an OGL tourney, and you get there, get setup and 5 minutes into your first game you $100 Crapslang breaks.......

That's not fun.

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Kingslayer
Play for fun all you want. But if you travel 4 hours, pay $250, lug all your computer crap to be in an OGL tourney, and you get there, get setup and 5 minutes into your first game you $100 Crapslang breaks.......

That's not fun.


Many Competitions dont allow the Boomslang to be used....Make sure you check first.

[CrystalMethod]

Originally posted by ozzy0627
sony: No I decided not to buy the mouse....but I woould if it wouldn't break in a month :). I think for me its just something I want to have...I like to have the latest and greatest :)

Ps Who cares about finishing as long as you get to race:) I play for fun :)

Well said Ozz. Having the latest and greatest is fine and all, but not what makes you a great player. A year ago I was playing CS with a Voodoo bashee, and a celly 400, and still handing peoples asses back to them.

[Morba]

Originally posted by Silversinksam




Morba have you ever taken anyone to court? It costs time and money. I have even written to Steve Rosen and Sandra Goldberg, Chairman and President of Karna and they just blew me off.


I have only ever tried to take one to court once, they backed out and gave me a new product and my money back.

99% of companies over here in the UK will do there utmost to make the customer happy. ie, Cadburys (major chocolate company) now and then a bar of chocolate goes out with a bit of plastic in it (its happend to a few ppl i know) , send it back and they send approx £50 worth of chocolate to you in recompense.

What you have to remember is mass produced products will always have a higher number of ppl complaining about it, but the percentage of its customer base complaining would be lower.

Yes, microsoft intellimouses sell more then 2000 boomslangs, but hom many of those sold are for gaming use, not just general web use ?? Prolly about the same. And ive heard dodgy stories about intellis.

One of those things really. Again, its all about your own opinion.
No it wont make u into a gaming master, but im sure that atleast 80% of boomslang owners prefer it perfomance wise even if it does start going wrong.

[killem1x1]

I use the Trackman wheel at home, and the cordles version at work. I also have an optical MS intelli, and a logitech mouseman wheel here at home, but the trackman is the best IMHO.
I must say that I've seen more discussions regarding the failure rate of the boomslang, than the "greatness" of it. I'll buy just about any mousing device and give it a shot, except for that one;)

[Silversinksam]

Originally posted by Morba



I have only ever tried to take one to court once, they backed out and gave me a new product and my money back.



Morba,

Here in the States things must be different in the legal system, you need to pay filing fees, possibly consult an attorney to represent you to deal with a Foreign company like Karna.

By the time your done the $200 loss turns into a $500 or more loss(Unless I get Flounder to represent me for free:) )

Im not argueing that boomslangs aren't awesome gaming mouses, what im saying is they break easily and they are not a company like Cadbury when it comes to customer satisfaction.