cpu data base for xp 1800 and 1900?

[hunter1895]

I am buying a xp cpu soon and have been looking at the data base . The results for the xp1800 seem to be much better than xp1900. There are alot of people reaching 2 gigs or better with the xp1800 and not one xp1900 at 2gigs. The steppings for the better performers are the same in the data base for both cpu types. Anyone with a reason for this? I would be very interested . As it looks right now to me the 1800 is the top dog. Ill probably order that one .

[Placid]

You have to consider the cpu database is not secure in that anyone can post anything.

The best thing is to look at the average overclock and not at the top number.

XP 1800-73 entries, average oc 1769mhz.
XP 1900-19 entries, average oc 1791mhz.

[wildbilly2k]

ok when i get my athlon xp 1900+ unlocked ill blow away any 1800+ with it.

[RedDeathDrinker]

The whole point of overclocking used to be to get faster performance out of slower chips......

My XP1500 cost just over half as much as an XP1800 here in the UK, yet I can get the same performance (slightly more, if truth be told) for half the price.........and I haven't even unlocked it yet!

[RedDeathDrinker]

I will also add that I am very pleased at the low temps the XP's run at (in this case, 39C core temp!)

Yes, I could get an XP1800/1900 faster, but at what cost?

[wildbilly2k]

yeah well i have my 1900+ at about 1740 with out unlocking but i cant go anyhigher because of my heatsink sucks and i cant use my sk6 cause the clip broke!!!!!!!!

[wildbilly2k]

here are mine at my over clock cant wait to unlock and get a new clip for my sk6!!!!!!!

[bobt17]

i cant unlock my xp but here are my benches at 1.6ghz

[wildbilly2k]

hey where do you get that update version of sis soft

[bobt17]

i ran the update wizzard but i think u need to have the profesional version

[RedDeathDrinker]

Yeah - you need the professional version.....

I just hasd another tinker with my BIOS - Flashed the 8KHAL00 (30/11/01 version) and now have my baby at 1.6GHZ! (10*160)

[bobt17]

Congratz reddeathdrinker

[bobt17]

lol btw anyone have any ideas why wcpuid would restart my machine.... it does that every time i try to run it even if i am not overclocked

[wildbilly2k]

im not sure that sounds like a corrupting file but i could be worng and could you give the site from where you downloaded sis soft

[bobt17]

u need to buy the profesional version of sisoft

[wildbilly2k]

ooh really do you know of any other bench marking utilities i dont have to buy

[bobt17]

just stick with the standard sandra version it works fine

[wildbilly2k]

yeah i just wanted to be able to compare to the pentium 4 2.0 ghz

[mEKbOY]

Most of the claims in that section seem to be irrelavant. There is no proof and can be misleading. A few even say post at a certain speed but thats it. I think the section is useless unless more proof such as a screenie is presented.

[Placid]

Originally posted by reddeathdrinker
The whole point of overclocking used to be to get faster performance out of slower chips......

To me the point of overclocking has always been to get the most of what you have no matter what it is.

[RedDeathDrinker]

I agree with you wholeheartedly!

But for me to spend £100 on an XP1500, and get £200 worth of XP1900 performance is a major attraction to me, being on a tight budget.

[David]

I got a 1.1GHz Athlon Tbird and I might just get 1.2 or 1.3Ghz out of it. I might try using the pencil trick to muck about with the multiplier.

[wildbilly2k]

yeah well i am trying to get to the point where have one major big overclocking system im going to get a case that has water cooling put a 10gig hard drive in it A cd rom a nive geofrce2 pro 64mb ddr card and pc 2400 ddrram to over clock and see how high i can get the thing to go. That is my whole idea. Yeah i over clock my athlon xp but i dont ever leave it at that becuase i get bored and when i get bored i need to over clock.

[hunter1895]

being a honest sort myself i didnt think that somone would lie about somthing like that. i guess i can be blind somtimes. im just trying to build my first system and i want to get the most for the money and also not have it obselete in a year. im also going to build a second rig for serious overclocking and screwing with for a new hobby.

[wildbilly2k]

yeah i am workin on the same project all i need is a case hd and vid card and ram and i am ready to go ooh yeah maybe a cdrom drive too but that is it

[JetMech]

On the easier to overclock the lower chips thing remember what was found out about the chip manufacturing process. It is possible that AMDs FAB is so good that all their chips (or a good number of them) are in fact 1900+ being marked down. It is also possible that we are seeing the limits being reached on the XP chips. Tbird maxed out at 1.4 and Palamino is not a radical change in core. AMD is simply stretching the core till their next processor line comes out. If this is true then Reddeathdrinker is absolutely right. The smart move would be to buy the cheaper chips and easily overclock them to the higher settings. "Back to the 300A Celeron logic".

[wildbilly2k]

welli find that a really intresting threory but if amd tried to pull that with the athlon xp why would my 1900+ at stock run better then a 1700+ at stock but i just get e little different oc%

[RedDeathDrinker]

Small update for you all.....

One XP1500 running nicely at XP2000+ (1.67GHz)

And still more to go when I get round to unlocking it.......:)

[wildbilly2k]

wow your really gettin up there now i am thinkin i should buy an extra xp 1500+ those are some crazy a!! speeds for that cpu.