ATT Arkaime23

[AMD900*]

hey dude was ur update on ur video card im getting 2893 @ 270/441 on 3dmark01 i once got 2952 @ 270/451 just one time
stupid **** didnt happen again

[Arkaine23]

Sorry man, holidaze... plus I moved my computer desk and haven't hooked everything back up... <typing from work on a 150MHz P2 piece of *@^*>

6034 in 3dmark2k1 at default 1024x768 16bit, 5100-something at the regular 1024x768 32 bit.

My FSB is at 145 from 133. I think your's is at 100 or 133? Card at 250/455. I can't raise the GPU or I get lock-ups. At 460 for the memory I get lock-ups, so that's about as high as I can go. Probably because my computer is OC'd. I can raise my FSB a little still, but it gets unstable around 148. My highest score was 6091, but I only got that once and my computer crashed in Sandra's burn-in after about 45 minutes (FSB was at 150). I was able to get 255/470 in 3dmark 2000 for a score of like 10000-something, but that also only happened once.

Tell me about your bios... can you do anything with the memory settings? There are some tweaks you could do to your memory that might improve your score a little. Any luck unlocking your processor or changing your FSB?

[Arkaine23]

5246 in 3dmark2k1 @147 FSB, with det 23.11's, card at 255/459... default test 1024x768, 32bit.

This is my best score so far at the default test. I'm going to try some other drivers and see if I can get it any higher, but I think this is about the limit for me. I'll try lapping my Blue Orb to a mirror finish too, but I don't think it'll help. My GPU just doesn't like to be OC'd.

How about you? Have you broken 3000 yet?

[AMD900*]

what's up dude i did i got 3076-3080 i just reinstall the 23.11 driver. what scores did u get when u got the card. also how u adjust the fsb.one more thing i downloaded CPUFSB b/c i heard that u can o/c the pc chips m810 mobo like this but how do i use it do i have to unlock my processor or u think is best if i do it manual if so at what voltage should i set it and so high should i go on th MHz?and is that all i have to do to o/c it many help would great dude
thanx
ben

[Arkaine23]

I think upping the FSB is the best way to go. You should be able to do it in your bios, but if your board doesn't offer the option of changing the clock frequency, you can do it with CPUFSB... I think you need to know some info about the parts on your mobo to use that program, but I'm not sure. Open it up and try it. See what sort of stuff you need to tell that program, and if you can't find it in your mobo manual, try to get the info from your mobo's manufacturer, or on the mobo itself. (I'm trying to OC my roommate's HP, but HP hasn't helped me to figure out that specific mobo info I need for SoftFSB, which is a prog similar to CPUFSB). My advice is to ask around, cuz I've got that kind of prog, but haven't used it yet.

Unlocking your processor is the other way to go, and it'll help your score too. What you'll have to do is remove the HSF and processor. Place the processor on some packing foam, or something soft and not made of fabric. I recommend using a grounding strap to be sure you don't fry the CPU with static electricty, or just get naked and keep a bare foot on the floor (not carpet!) at all times. Then get out a magnifying glass and look at the L1 bridges. You need to get some auto window defogger repair paint (available at any auto parts store for about $6) and a metal pin. What you do is dip the pin in the paint and use it to connect each L1 bridge. Takes some guts cuz that stuff is really small. Don't cross-connect any of the bridges. If you mess up you can use an exacto knife to carefully remove any excess paint or wash using nail polish remover and a Q-tip. Check your work with the magnifying glass, and if all looks well, put the CPU back in and put the heatsink back on. While you have the heatsink off, you might want to lap it with wet sandpaper of rough , to finer, finer, finer, very fine grits to get the base really smooth and make it work better, or purchase a better one if your funds allow. And don't forget to clean off the old paste from that CPU and use some fresh thermal paste (not too much)! Then when everything is back in place, go into your bios (press delete at startup) and change the cpu clock multiplyer. For your 900 Duron, you're either at 6 x 133, or 9 x 100. Either way, you only want to go up by .5 at first (6.5 or 9.5 I'm not sure what your current FSB is). Then run Sandra's CPU & CPU multimedia burn-in for 20-50+ loops, and monitor your temps with Motherboard monitor 5 (if your motherboard has the sensors for it). Don't go anywhere while running this, cuz you'll have to reset it if it locks up.

Changing the muliplyer by .5 will up your CPU's MHZ by 50 if your FSB is 100, and 66 if your FSB is 133! It'll also run a little hotter. To add stability you might also want to nudge the VCore up just a notch. If you can get through the tests, then you can try going up another .5 on your multiplyer, and another notch on your Vcore. But try to keep your temps in the low 40's Celsius. If you get crashes or Sandra quits on you, your settings are too aggressive. Let it cool down awhile then turn it back on and either up the Vcore another notch, or set the multiplyer back down a bit. If for any reason your computer doesn't POST, you can use a jumper to reset your CMOS data (bios settings) back to default (if your mobo supports that), or just remove the CMOS battery for a few minutes to reset.

I recommend browsing through the overclocking guides, getting a hold of a manual for your mobo, and studying it a bit, and opening up your case and getting familiar with some of the stuff that's in there.

And I think FSB is the way to go, although unlocking a Duron is really not that hard. I unlocked my girlfriend's T-bird and it only took a minute of actual work on the CPU, same technique too. Highest MHz gains for OC'ing are through unlocking, but best overall system performance boost is by FSB.

Check your bios for memory settings... bank interleave set to 4 way will boost your memory performance by up to 30% if your memory can take it. 1st run Sandra's memory bemnchmark and write down the score. Then try changing the timings for your memory in Bios. Bank interleave is the big one, Cas latency is also another one (see if it runs at a lower number setting), upping memory voltage can help a bit, and lowering all the other timimgs may also improve the score. Try doing just one setting and then running Sandra's memory benchmark to see if you get any improvement, and to see if your memory can handle those settings. Wirte down the defaults, so you can change them back easily if you need to. Play around and see how high you can get on the memory benchmark. That should also improve your 3dmark2k1 score. When you've got the memory tweaked pretty good, run Sandra's burn-in with just the memory benchmark looped about 20 times to be sure the setting will work ok.

Hope you can hit at least 3500 in 3dmark, and that you can get that CPU OC'd too.

I'm gonna have to mess around with my Blorb to try to get my GPU higher. Hoping to hit 5500 in 3dmark. It's interesting that reinstalling the drivers boosted your score so much. I think I'll try that!

[Arkaine23]

Increasing the FSB makes all your hardware run faster.

Changing the CPU multiplyer, makes the CPU work harder and faster.

Good cooling is essential for both OC methods.

10-15% increase in MHZ is a good goal to set if you have decent cooling (case fans, quality HSF). from 900 to 1050 should be the range your aiming for.

Go in small increments of 1-2 MHz for FSB and then benchmark to test stability. Or +.5 increment for multiplyer.

Increasing Vcore slightly helps stabilize an overclocked CPU, but also raises the temperature.

Start a thread about CPUFSB and see if any1 knows how to use it.

Memory, CPU MHz, Operating System, Chipset, FSB, video drivers, & directX version all will impact your 3dmark score. Hopefully OC'ing your CPU a tad and tweaking your memory timings will boost your 3dmark score.

[Arkaine23]

b4 I OC'd anything my 3d mark score was 4900-something, and that was in the 16bit color test, which means it was prolly around 4200-4300 in 32 bit. Dunno. Guess I'll clock it back down to default a retest it at 32 bit to be sure. I changed FSB in my bios, and haven't unlocked this XP yet.

You could try to get a newer bios to see if that has FSB settings, or maybe your mobo has jumpers for FSB. IF not, CPUFSB should do the trick.

A quality HSF and some good case airflow will go a long way in helping you overclock.

[Arkaine23]

hey dude,

just re-installed det 23.11's and got 5373 from 5246. @ 255/460

[AMD900*]

Originally posted by Arkaime23
hey dude,

just re-installed det 23.11's and got 5373 from 5246. @ 255/460
give me a hell yeah hey why dont u go over the AMD CPU'S board and help me out (help w/ CPUFSB download)