It's time to return the favor

[eaglescouter]

Gentlemen,

As you know there were more than a few from the Folding team that joined into our International SETI Gauntlet in an effort to help us take first place. While we may not have succeeded in taking first place it was fun anyway and we got a lot of science units crunched in the process.

The Folders are having a contest and this is our opportunity to return the favor. Instructions are here: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=550142

Create your own folding account and join it to the correct team, for each unit crunched (sorry for the SETI terminology) you earn one entry into a drawing for a Q6600 GO stepping.

Please make sure to identify yourself as "a member of the SETI team returning the favor" when you sign up in the contest thread, and above all have some fun :)

[henzo]

Wow nice, im gonna check that out.

[El<(')>Maxi]

I'm on it. I'll ask the benching team to join in although the timing isn't great...we are starting FW right now.

[rdrash]

Hi all...

If I had my wife's rig folding would she notice any drop in performance?

I have two options:

1. wifes rig; ASUS M2N32-SLi, 6400+ black, 4GB ram, 2x 250GB HD, vista Ultimate

2. Spare parts; eVGA 680i, E6850, 2GB ram, 1x 320GB or 1x 74GB HD, either XP or vista Ultimate

Plus I need time to setup and learn how to install/use your software..

please let me know and I'll do my best to support you guys.

Matt :beer:

[JamesXP]

no difference, FAH will back down as soon as another process asks for CPU powuh.

[donuts]

I'll crunch a few wu's, I just have to run my cache out.

[muddocktor]

I let them know already that if I have internet access on this land job I'm going on that I would fold some wu's for their contest, returning the favor. I'm not ouching my farm at the house though as F@H has gotten too bandwidth intensive for my poor metered bandwidth sat broadband to stand.

[Hamm3r]

Ill be in as soon as I clear up my cache, don't want to miss Seti deadlines.

[Careface]

I let them know already that if I have internet access on this land job I'm going on that I would fold some wu's for their contest, returning the favor. I'm not ouching my farm at the house though as F@H has gotten too bandwidth intensive for my poor metered bandwidth sat broadband to stand.

Id like to know more about this Mud. What sorta size are we talking about here? Im on metered bandwidth as well.

[QuietIce]

I'm in! The Q6600 rig is ready for assembly and OC experiments this weekend.

Just need a few hints here and there to know what to do - the F@H stickies have good information in them but I'm still not sure of the most efficient way to set up a quad core. Lots of reading to do this week ...

['Cuda340]

Hello Seti Team :)

Thought i should pop in and say Hi.

Just so there's no confusion, the "Folding Contest" is for a chance to win a quad core. We are doing this to create interest in folding as well as a chance to give back to those that already do.

We are not in a specific competition with another team at this time.

Thanks to those that have already signed up and we hope that more of the Seti team will join us for this event.


Just need a few hints here and there to know what to do - the F@H stickies have good information in them but I'm still not sure of the most efficient way to set up a quad core.

Assuming your running Windows XP, the most efficient way would be this guide.

http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=494925

Note the latest VMware version is now 1.04

Any questions, pop over and ask. :beer:

[El<(')>Maxi]

I can help with that Matt, although it might just be easier to setup the folding client and forget vmware.

['Cuda340]

It may be easier, i've only setup as per guide, so i can't comment. (And only a couple at that, run mostly diskless)

In reference to
not sure of the most efficient way to set up a quad core.

Per ChasR from another thread.

You can expect to produce about 1330 ppd/GHz in two VMs. My worst system clocks to 3.0 GHz, my best to 3.42 GHz, with the majority running @ 3.3 GHz. While Linux/VMware/2xLinux is free, I've found XP/VM/2xLinux to produce slightly better, with affinity set in taskmanager, 1360ppd/GHz.

Only trying to help, i don't track stats as much as most.

[El<(')>Maxi]

Moving a quad over tomorrow, gotta repay T32 for their efforts during the gaulntlet.

[muddocktor]

My laptop will be folding in the next few days. I have to finish clearing out the cached Seti wu's still. And the cache is getting small on it now. As for setup, if you aren't in it for the points, you can also set up to run the regular folding client instead of the smp ones. For a dual (or quad) croe machine, just make the appropriate number of separate folders and set up each client with a different machine id number. That's what I plan to do; after all there is still plenty of science left to do with the good old folding clients that are fairly well debugged.

[QuietIce]

My laptop will be folding in the next few days. I have to finish clearing out the cached Seti wu's still. And the cache is getting small on it now. As for setup, if you aren't in it for the points, you can also set up to run the regular folding client instead of the smp ones. For a dual (or quad) croe machine, just make the appropriate number of separate folders and set up each client with a different machine id number. That's what I plan to do; after all there is still plenty of science left to do with the good old folding clients that are fairly well debugged. There are bugs with the SMP clients? That may be a good reason to run four separate clients rather than using the SMP.

Hmmm, can you mix and match? Maybe one SMP client and a pair of "normal" clients ...?

[nikhsub1]

There are bugs with the SMP clients?
Don't get me started :mad: One of the reasons I left the project, their clients absolutely suck. OK, I'm done now :D

[El<(')>Maxi]

Running SMP has been painful, maybe I could be doing it differently...

[QuietIce]

Hey guys! I've got the Q6600 running but I can't figure out how to get more than one core folding! :-/ I've tried using the -local switch and I've changed the machineID in the config file but even though it will run the second program seperate (it dl'ed new WUs when I ran it) it still won't let me run clients A & B at the same time. :(


What the heck am I missing here ...???

[muddocktor]

QuietIce, are you trying to run the regular console cpu client? If so, make a shortcut to each folder's exe file and rename the shortcuts to something like Folding1, Folding2, etc. If you are trying to run the graphical interface, you can only run 1 client that way, so you will need to go download the console client for the other instances and run the other 3 with the console client.

[QuietIce]

Aha! *light-bulb* A couple of key words from you and three hours sleep makes a world of difference! That's exactly what I was trying to do - run the graphics client, which was not my intension at all. :bang head The console is what I expected to run when I downloaded the programs but I started this late last night and, obviously, things were a little foggier than I thought. I kept seeing the console version and thinking it was a control panel/viewer of some type but once I read your post my head snapped back to command-line mode - "console" means text only! *Doh*

Thanks, man ...! :beer: :soda: :beer:


Edit: Everything is running fine now! But I guess the folding team is only getting half my machine for the next month. I couldn't stand the thought of a quad sitting here all night doing almost nothing so I started crunching with it before I went to bed. Still, 0.5x 3300 MHz C2Q should crank out more than a few proteins for them ... :)

[muddocktor]

Glad to hear it worked out, QuietIce. You do know that you can run 4 console clients with F@H though, right? Just make 4 folders and give them all different client id numbers; you aren't just restricted to only 2 of the regular cpu clients. Of course if you still want to crunch with a couple of cores with that quad, that's cool too.

[QuietIce]

I was sure once I got 2 clients running that I could run however many I wanted. Just getting TWO to run was the big stumbling block. :)


I thought about taking SETI down to just one core. I've already downloaded 10 days of work, which I quickly changed to 5 days, but it started pulling WUs as soon as it was running (even before I optimized!). :eek: I couldn't stop it and I'd hate to turn those WUs back in as unfinished (I don't like waiting for MY verifications!). But a single core should be able to make all the deadlines - I'll switch over to 1 SETI/3 F@H ...

[El<(')>Maxi]

and give them all different client id numbers

How do you do that? I've been a little busy and have not had time to move my quad to VMware just yet, this sounds quicker.

[donuts]

With each folding instance, in the advanced options you can choose the machine id (?).

I think that's what it is called, it's been a while.

Do you still have to run the -local flag for multiple clients?

[QuietIce]

I ran the -local switch because it was suggested and I was having enough trouble w/out making more for myself. I don't know if it's required but it doesn't hurt anything! ;) But thinking back on it I probably could have left it out.


How do you do that? I've been a little busy and have not had time to move my quad to VMware just yet, this sounds quicker. Once muddocktor put me on the right track (Thank You) it was a snap to set up! :) I put the Console504 client in three different folders then created two shortcuts in each folder, one with the -local switch added and one with -local -configonly switches added. Run the config shortcut and go through username, etc., then select "yes" to change/configure advanced options. The machineID is the last step in the advanced options. You can also use the -config switch (instead of -configonly) if you want to start folding when you exit the configuration routine ...

[muddocktor]

Very good explanation, QuietIce! :thup:

[QuietIce]

Thanks! I had just gone through all that when the question popped up here so it was easy to recount my adventures! :)


Turns out there's an easier way! Start with one of the folders and go through the -configonly switch selecting the default options you want for all clients. When you're done with the configuration there will be a client.cfg file in the folder. Copy that file to the other folders then edit the client.cfg file in the other folders with notepad to change the machine ID number - it's right near the top. Other options can be changed as well (they're all in plain English) but the idea is to cut down on the config time a little so I just changed the machineID keeping all other options the same ...