View Full Version : Is Crysis poorly coded?
tranceaddict
03-21-08, 02:04 PM
With the system in my sig., and the game running at 1280X960, 2AA/16AF, and all HIGH settings I average between 30-40FPS. In COD4 for example I run it all maxed out with 4AA/16AF @ 1280X960 and get between 70-90FPS. I can even run it at 1600X1200 but I do not like the frame rates dipping into the 50s for multiplayer. Sure the vegetation and water effects look nice in Crysis but some other textures are worse quality then the ones on COD4. What's up with that?
redrumy3
03-21-08, 02:08 PM
With the system in my sig., and the game running at 1280X960, 2AA/16AF, and all HIGH settings I average between 30-40FPS. In COD4 for example I run it all maxed out with 4AA/16AF @ 1280X960 and get between 70-90FPS. I can even run it at 1600X1200 but I do not like the frame rates dipping into the 50s for multiplayer. Sure the vegetation and water effects look nice in Crysis but some other textures are worse quality then the ones on COD4. What's up with that?
Just crysis graphics pretty much cripple any system except for maybe a 9800gx2 cod4 just runs great
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 02:22 PM
People all over have been saying that it's a combination of the two factors. Crysis looks better than any game to date, but it also doesn't have the best coding. Supposedly the Cryengine 2 was created to show off what next-gen cards will do, and they just aren't out yet (Ok, maybe the 9800GX2 counts). With that though comes the possibility that some of the code that the devs hoped would work wonders on the new cards just ended up not really being optimized. The first of everything is never the best.
People all over have been saying that it's a combination of the two factors. Crysis looks better than any game to date, but it also doesn't have the best coding. Supposedly the Cryengine 2 was created to show off what next-gen cards will do, and they just aren't out yet (Ok, maybe the 9800GX2 counts). With that though comes the possibility that some of the code that the devs hoped would work wonders on the new cards just ended up not really being optimized. The first of everything is never the best.
Pretty much nailed it. They made an incredibly photo-realistic game with a poorly optimized engine. At release, you'd be hard pressed to find a system that could max it smoothly. Coupled with the fact they built a CLI benchmark program into the engine, it's always been my opinion they made a tech demo instead of a game. :P
Otherwise it doesn't make sense, FPS gamers are a picky lot and performance is important. Crysis wasn't made for them, it was made for review sites.
Whine whine whine.
Get custom configs you lazy bums.
Whine whine whine.
Get custom configs you lazy bums.
I don't need custom configs because I think Crysis is a lousy game all around. :) But I don't think the OP was whining, just curious about the poor performance.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 04:07 PM
I've tried out the "DX10" configs, completely crushed my 8800GTS. Even without those though, it's hard for my card to maintain 30fps with all high and no AA.
What resolution?
1600x1200 / 1680x1050 should be no problem...
1920x1200 is should be possible on only high.
Check this: http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=552914
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 04:12 PM
1680x1050. For some reason I always get poor performance compared to others :(
Your rig is faster, it should be better...
Try the config set-ups I listed, I'm going to do a test of them.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 04:23 PM
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/2545/lolzy0.jpg
Errr... that's a little too much bloom for my taste. Ok, I lied, that's a LOT of bloom. I still got the same FPS that I had just two minutes before I tried your autoexec. :(
What kind of FPS do you usually get?
Just tried my E6600 at 3.6Ghz, saw no difference. Definitely GPU limited.
Errr... that's a little too much bloom for my taste
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/chicane-uk/thegoggles.gif
Have to love The Simpsons :bday:
Ack, too much bloom!
http://www.imageox.com/image/204276-jones_melt.jpeg
Out of curiousity, are there any graphical settings where you can maintain high FPS? Maybe config tweaks aren't the culprit.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 04:45 PM
My eyes! The goggles, they do nothing!
Have to love The Simpsons :bday:
Hahahaha! :beer:
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 04:51 PM
Ack, too much bloom!
http://www.imageox.com/image/204276-jones_melt.jpeg
Out of curiousity, are there any graphical settings where you can maintain high FPS? Maybe config tweaks aren't the culprit.
Low - 95fps
Medium - 48fps
High - 31fps
By the way, this is in the middle of a highly forested area. Right at the beginning of Relic.
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7537/lolgt3.jpg
I have tried about all of the configs and to tell yo the truth, I don't care for any of them. No matter which config it is, they all make what is very realistic looking out of the box, look cartooney and such. You have to get back the fps from somewhere. I am now back to running DX10 at very high with 3 settings backed down to high. I do use an autoexec.cfg but only to enable the console and to set the physics to core3 on my quad. I am going to try enabling EdgeAA tonight just to tidt things up a bit. With this I still get over 30fps avg and the game, unlike most others, plays perfectly smooth there. To me that is what counts, that plus looking like what it was supposed to.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 05:02 PM
Lowering shaders and shadow to medium, I get 48fps. Everything else is still high. I think I'm going to reinstall my drivers using drivercleaner. Usually I just uninstall and update.
Maybe that was the one I didn't correct the bloom on.
Whoops.
My config was to get delicious graphics and not fps. I'll see what I can do.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 05:27 PM
Maybe that was the one I didn't correct the bloom on.
Whoops.
I hope you can afford my corrective laser surgery. :)
Even if you set your config for graohics, I would think that I could pull off with at least the same fps.
Nvm that, I just noticed you said you get 24 fps.
I'll see what I can do ;)
p.s. lol
http://aycu14.webshots.com/image/48653/2001600394024552950_rs.jpg
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 05:36 PM
I'll see what I can do ;)
p.s. lol
(bloomy picture)
Wooo!
Thanks for the help man, you don't really need to. 30fps is like the lowest it goes, I just think it should be closer to like 40 minimum.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 05:41 PM
It looks... adequate :) 30 doesn't look horrible by any means, I guess I'm just spoiled and I'm expecting more from my card. I'm not sure, lol. I just reinstalled Simcity Societies today and I can't keep the game above like 30fps on all high so I just got upset and didn't play, haha. I'm waaaaay too spoiled by the GTS. :D
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 05:47 PM
Wow. Hazaro, don't bother with that config file :) I just reinstalled my drivers using DriverCleaner, and got a 5-7fps increase! I must have had something left over from early drivers that I just never got rid of. Thanks for the help, but I guess I just need to use DCP from now on :P
But was it my config, or new drivers?
Did you check your old one?
I didn't use driver cleaner last time, maybe I'll do it again and check...
*What did you change bloom/HDR to btw?
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 05:50 PM
I ended up just deleting that config. Sorry, lol. It was 31 before and after your config, now it's 37 without the config but after using DCP. I never really thought it made a difference!
I'm going to do a multiple comparison anyway so it's all good.
p.s. What directory does the config file go under? I have it placed in about 3 folders.
reclaimer122
03-21-08, 06:07 PM
Crytek\Crysis\Game :)
Good luck with the comparisons. :beer:
Crytek\Crysis\Game :)
Good luck with the comparisons. :beer:
Well... I have 2 HDD's... I'll just put in all 3 places again.
Well... I have 2 HDD's... I'll just put in all 3 places again.If it is an "autoexec.cfg." it belongs in the x:\Program Files\ea games\cryteck\Crysis directory. A "system.cfg" belongs in the Config directory.
***Click view original after the thumbnail link to view the 1600x1200 picture***
Preliminary results: (Contact [Island]http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/46920/2003045339953690222_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003045339953690222)/ Paradise lost [Ice]http://aycu27.webshots.com/image/49866/2003796325588340559_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003796325588340559))
1280x1204 NoAA
Hazaro: 31/26
CCC lvl4: 29/27
Pinto: 28/23
1600x1200 NoAA
Hazaro: 28/18
CCC lvl4: 22/20
Pinto: 21/15
1920x1440 NoAA (1920x1200 cut off fraps)
Hazaro: 15/14
CCC lvl4: 18/15
Pinto: 14/12
*1920x1440 caused video memory to not be happy and drop fps down to 6fps in some cases for an extended amount of time ONLY for Contact [Island] NOT for Paradise Lost [Ice].
For some reason AA wouldn't hold as a setting, it has before... 2x, 4x, and 8x all reverted back to none.
Hazaro: http://aycu01.webshots.com/image/46920/2003045339953690222_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003045339953690222)
Pinto: http://aycu18.webshots.com/image/46937/2003053349870454679_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003053349870454679)
CCC (Sunrise) [Same time as previous two]: http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/46441/2003080610861812130_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003080610861812130)
CCC (Later): http://aycu29.webshots.com/image/46268/2003095178072285941_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003095178072285941)
CCC (Afternoon): http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/47567/2003016590744612358_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003016590744612358)
**Note fps may be off in screens because fps takes a short dip / changes.
Bonus pic: http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/49774/2003745027275646497_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2003745027275646497)
SteveLord
03-21-08, 10:11 PM
I got burn-in squares on my monitor scrolling through some those bright assed screen shots.......
I got burn-in squares on my monitor scrolling through some those bright assed screen shots.......
All criticism and no love :shrug:
:cry:
So it looks like some work better at low res's and others at higher. Would you mind posting your frame rates at the default high on Dx9 for comparison?
So it looks like some work better at low res's and others at higher. Would you mind posting your frame rates at the default high on Dx9 for comparison?
Tomorrow, gotta change back the cvar settings.
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