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Red_LightRanger
03-23-08, 02:14 PM
I just built my new system and its laggin a bit on crysis high settings. Ive upgraded to a quad core, 8800gt, and 4 gigs of ram. Nothing is oc'd yet and im running vista 32bit. I also have the latest video drivers installed. Im cooling my quad with a TRUE as well. My 3d mark score is around 11,000 (does this seem ok)

Any suggestions?

PhysX
03-23-08, 02:39 PM
get a 9800gx2 ?

you maybe have a bad ass computer, but crysis is hard even on the 8800gt, so over clock both and see how it goes.

ps2cho
03-23-08, 02:47 PM
Post full specs first of new computer.

DerekDRP
03-23-08, 03:04 PM
I just built my new system and its laggin a bit on crysis high settings. Ive upgraded to a quad core, 8800gt, and 4 gigs of ram. Nothing is oc'd yet and im running vista 32bit. I also have the latest video drivers installed. Im cooling my quad with a TRUE as well. My 3d mark score is around 11,000 (does this seem ok)

Any suggestions?It doesn't lag on my system and I went with ati :P

Hardin
03-23-08, 03:15 PM
It doesn't lag on my system and I went with ati :P

Yes well you'll notice that he has one card while you have two.
-1 for trying to make it an ati vs nvidia thread.

Hazaro
03-23-08, 03:16 PM
I just built my new system and its laggin a bit on crysis high settings. Ive upgraded to a quad core, 8800gt, and 4 gigs of ram. Nothing is oc'd yet and im running vista 32bit. I also have the latest video drivers installed. Im cooling my quad with a TRUE as well. My 3d mark score is around 11,000 (does this seem ok)

Any suggestions?

11k?

Should be 14k

Overclocked yet?

DerekDRP
03-23-08, 03:19 PM
Yes well you'll notice that he has one card while you have two.
-1 for trying to make it an ati vs nvidia thread.True true . and back to the regularly broad casted thread :P

redrumy3
03-23-08, 03:26 PM
i play crysis on very high with natural mod and get around 20 fps with my 8800GT plays smooth enough for me to enjoy the graphics :) dx10 as well x64 too

11k non overclock seems about right i pull 14,700 on vista x64 overclocked :)

Red_LightRanger
03-23-08, 03:52 PM
ya im not oc'd yet. I just wanted to get a base score.

Heres my specs:
6600 @ stock on TRUE
8800gt @stock
4gig mushkin mem
abit IP35-e
corsair 550w ps

Red_LightRanger
03-23-08, 06:44 PM
I also heard that vista 64bit runs crysis much smoother, but I had a lot of problems with the wireless card driver, so I installed 32bit. I also tried to run the virtual address hotfix from microsoft, but it said it didnt apply to my system.

mridha3
03-23-08, 10:43 PM
Get Windows xp 64 bit edition and read the guide to getting very high settings on XP. you will deffinatly increase in frames. Its sorta stupid how all these "new games" are like going to be locked parts on vista while they will perfrom better on xp. Vista is too bugged if u ask me

TempliNocturnus
03-24-08, 01:34 AM
Does crysis utilize all 4 cores?

Moto7451
03-24-08, 04:04 AM
No, it's only optimized for two cores.

SteveLord
03-24-08, 09:26 AM
Vista will drop your frames a bit more.

Red_LightRanger
03-24-08, 09:58 AM
Ya i hear that vista does drop your performance a little, but i like it to be honest. Maybe I will give 64bit another try. Last time i had it installed i didnt run crysis, but I will give it another go.
I thought crysis was optimized for quads:confused:

deathman20
03-24-08, 10:24 AM
You'll want 64-bit OS to use your memory properly.

If I could get 64-bit Crysis to work without crashing it would be nice haven't tried it since my reinstall, SP1 and new sound card so might have to try that. But overall Vista does run Crysis a bit slower.

My rig.. while yes its OC'ed it holds its own on Crysis but higher res's is basically out of the question if you want to run high/ultra high settings. I like my eye candy so I choose to downgrade my res.

Really you get 11k with your rig stock? I get 11.7k basically with my rig stock, and just over 14k OC'ed currently.

Crysis was suppose to be optimized for quads. But in beta at least it always was dual core optimized. It kept getting dragged out and I don't even think they released a "quad core optimized beta" before it went to retail. That sucked I know Crysis was a game I was going to get a quad for but after seeing no one getting any results from said game with quads, I said forget it.

Red_LightRanger
03-24-08, 01:49 PM
damn crysis....Do you guys think that crysis runs slow on most rigs because its not optimized well, or do you think its because the graphics are way ahead of its time?? Either way i can run most other games on max settings so im pleased with this build.

technoViking
03-24-08, 02:01 PM
quad cores seem like an epic fail for gaming.

Hardin
03-24-08, 02:03 PM
quad cores seem like an epic fail for gaming.

Give it some time. Alan Wake was supposed to utilize 4 cores, but I haven't heard anything about it in awhile.

Red_LightRanger
03-24-08, 02:03 PM
quad cores seem like an epic fail for gaming.

you are an epic fail for gaming:eek:...jk why do you say that? the only game i have ran that doesnt perform like I want is crysis.

redrumy3
03-24-08, 02:17 PM
Give it some time. Alan Wake was supposed to utilize 4 cores, but I haven't heard anything about it in awhile.
o yes it will 30% more performance over dual core :) cant wait for that game =]

my crysis on 64-bit never crashed once and i play it all the time x64 + dx10 + Natural Mod = Best ever!

deathman20
03-24-08, 02:20 PM
Natural Mod... hmmm might have to get that.

technoViking
03-24-08, 02:21 PM
Well the majority of games don't support quad cores, and in the future probably won't either, it will just be more support for dual cores. The game industry programs for the mass of the people, not just the people who have very high performing machines.

There will be more dual core than quad core in the coming years, so yah maybe a few games will utilize all 4 cores but in the mean time, if all you do is game with the quad, you just have a processor that runs hotter than the dual cores but getting the Same performance out of it while gaming.

If you bought the quad for other things than gaming then that makes perfect sense.

But in the end games are just going to get more optimized for dual cores while they put the quad cores on the back burner until they become more mainstream.
Sure a select few games will support all 4 cores but not the majority.

When the new processors come out in early 09 or late 08 I'll be buying one of those suckas until then, my single core is doing just fine ^_^;;

TheGreySpectre
03-24-08, 02:22 PM
Whats the Natural Mod?

redrumy3
03-24-08, 02:33 PM
Natural Mod... hmmm might have to get that.

http://crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=14195


Whats the Natural Mod?
great mod that i like using link posted above to it :)


crysis was suppose to utilize quad core but they lied...they said gaming on the quad was better than faster dual core lies! i bought a quad cause it was cheap n 3.6ghz was a breeze :) alan wake will be amazing physics on 1 core while other use something else in game....other games will soon ulitilze it :)

technoViking
03-24-08, 02:44 PM
A fail so epic
it might just be a win.

Red_LightRanger
03-24-08, 02:48 PM
lol

technoViking
03-24-08, 02:50 PM
haha, sorry i just needed a reason to post that.

Hardin
03-24-08, 03:01 PM
Do you have to have it on very high for the natural mod to work?

deathman20
03-24-08, 03:02 PM
Na question is... is there a performance hit or gain from running the mod.

redrumy3
03-24-08, 03:10 PM
Na question is... is there a performance hit or gain from running the mod.

performance hit nope its mostly tod tweaked a bit runs great on my system on very high @ 1680 x 1050

Red_LightRanger
03-24-08, 04:40 PM
post some screenies!

technoViking
03-24-08, 04:43 PM
RICK ROLL!!!!!!!!
neva gonna give you up, neva going let you down, never going to run around and dessert you.

Hardin
03-24-08, 05:44 PM
RICK ROLL!!!!!!!!
neva gonna give you up, neva going let you down, never going to run around and dessert you.

Yum I love dessert.

technoViking
03-24-08, 06:02 PM
yah i can't spell, i even googled it lol i was like f it. I'm leaving it

redrumy3
03-24-08, 06:09 PM
well i just installed new version so im on first level :)

TOD Settings are so great in this game, looks 100% better :P other levels look much better

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7093/crysis64200803241857289tx3.png

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8281/crysis64200803241903262uy3.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7606/crysis64200803241903304sx3.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/3873/crysis64200803241903392qq9.jpg

TempliNocturnus
03-24-08, 06:31 PM
Well the majority of games don't support quad cores, and in the future probably won't either, it will just be more support for dual cores. The game industry programs for the mass of the people, not just the people who have very high performing machines.


I disagree. The more developers gear their games to run on the latest hardware, then the more hype and popularity they get. It encourages people to buy the latest hardware, and therefore allows hardware developers, who sponsor game developers, do better. I predict that developers will start developing games to take advantage of the latest hardware, and be playable on the not-so-latest hardware, at the same time. This will mean that quad-core support will become popular in gaming in the near future.

technoViking
03-24-08, 06:36 PM
I hope your right, I wouldn't mind buying a quad core or an 8 core or 16, whatever they throw at us as long as the game developers support it.

Red_LightRanger
03-25-08, 12:29 AM
like the screens! I like how the shadows stretch a lot farther and how the light drowns out the object at the center.. It does look much better. What is that called HDR??

if that mod was any good though they would make even bigger alex boobs! jk I was reading the fakefactory lol

Pntgrd
03-25-08, 12:56 PM
You can tell Crysis what core to use for Physics, so it can utilize a Quad somewhat even though optimized for only Dual. the cvar is worth a couple fps or so. I would post it but i am at work and the Baracuda blocks most Gaming sites or I would post it here. I will post it when I get home if someone doesn't beat me to it.

KillrBuckeye
03-25-08, 01:42 PM
Red_LightRanger, I didn't see you mention your framerates. What one person considers "smooth" could be "choppy" to someone who isn't satisfied with anything less than 50 FPS. If you're not aware, you can monitor framerates in Crysis by opening the console (~ key) and typing in "r_displayinfo 1". I have very similar hardware to you, and running at 1680x1050 with high settings (no AA) I get about 35 FPS. To me, this is good enough to play the game comfortably.

Pntgrd
03-25-08, 08:35 PM
sys_physics_CPU = 3 ;CPU used for physics "0"=CORE1, "1"=CORE2, "2"=CORE3, "3"=CORE4 Either put this in a config or just type it in the console, your choice.

Red_LightRanger
03-25-08, 09:06 PM
my frame rates were pretty good (around 40) when theres not a lot of commotion going on. But if there are a lot of explosions or whatever it dips a bit. This is on high with no aa as well

Pntgrd what does that code do?

xgtdec
03-26-08, 06:02 AM
Crysis crysis crysis, what is it i love and detest about this game, well using the spec below and all the updated drivers i could manage i could play crysis for max 10 minutes before it either A: crashes and returns to vista with the usual"its an error but we dont know why" message or B: the sound Jams and its a restart. All other games run with no real probs although obliion is heavily modded so i cant complain bout a few glitches here and there. But amazingly i put on a dual boot win xp pro and installed crysis...and it runs like a dream, looks great runs great, i am almost...almost tempted to install all games onto XP and wait til vista 64 is a more stabe platform. Also i have not eben been tempted by quad core as of yet, i still reckon the dual core extreme is the best bang for buck around.....for now anyways. and god bless killrbuckeye for the framerate code....gonna see what im pulling out first thing when i get home

Dec

Pntgrd
03-26-08, 12:38 PM
my frame rates were pretty good (around 40) when theres not a lot of commotion going on. But if there are a lot of explosions or whatever it dips a bit. This is on high with no aa as well

Pntgrd what does that code do? It makes the core of your choice handle the physics. If you have a Quad then set the number to 2 or 3 and it will then use either Core 3 or 4 for physics and use 1 and 2 for the rest of the cpu stuff. Just might help the problem you are describing.

Diddyu
03-26-08, 01:13 PM
I dont remember where, but someone did a review with a skulltrail and tri sli ultra's. As the detail and resolution gets higher, it becomes more intensive towards CPU, due to more physics calculations.

mridha3
03-26-08, 09:15 PM
u guys talking about being patient for quad core gaming lol
how about ps3? it has 9 cores lol. I cant wait till ps3's games catch up with the system. It will be like crysis x3. But they prob will make an update to use all the cores

MooMasster716
03-27-08, 11:29 PM
Well I was never disappointed with Quad Core gaming because Its still to early to really even look at them for gaming. Besides is there even a game out there that goes from unplayable to playable with the addition of Quad Core Processor? All the gains I ever wanted were fulfilled when I fired up Nero Recode to encode a movie or encoded an entire season of Roswell in 45 minutes. If you are a gamer first then why would you even look at purchasing a Quad Core processor when you could grab a E4500 and OC to 4ghz and really help Crysis.

Neuromancer
03-27-08, 11:47 PM
quad cores seem like an epic fail for gaming.

Epic fail?
How do you figure?

I decided when I got my quad core that I wanted to try gaming while converting Highdefinition video (affinitied to only 2 cores)

Went like butter.

Even when not doing that (but still multitasking) I noticed when dropping from a quad to a dual that even non multithreaded games stuttered a little bit at times (rarely, and its been so long since I had a quad... that I do not notice it anymore but it was there initilaly)

Red_LightRanger
03-27-08, 11:49 PM
This build was mainly for video editing, but i can game with it as well. Dont get me wrong, crysis isnt unplayable, in fact its runs pretty smooth until theres a whole lot on screen. All in all i am pleased with the build, i guess i was just hoping the quad would be able to kick ass in crysis.

Do you guys think that there will be a patch released for crysis that will optimized for quads?

freeagent
03-28-08, 06:30 PM
crysis uses all 4 cores, so does just about every other game i play. they may not be pinned to max, but everything touches all 4.

Red_LightRanger
03-29-08, 11:04 AM
right, but i want it to max em out and fully utilize the whole processor. It kinda sucks having all that power left and only going half throttle.

freeagent
03-29-08, 02:43 PM
its not going half throttle for that game ;)

RangerXLT8
04-03-08, 05:38 PM
Crysis and COD4 use all 4 cores... Might not be pegged at 100% but like mentioned above it uses 4 cores.

SMTP
04-03-08, 10:09 PM
I'm using XP Pro x32 on my system. I can play Crysis on 'Very High' with no chop at all. Can't turn AA on past 1x without getting a noticeable drop in FPS.

However I game at my monitor's native resolution 1440x900. I imagine if my monitor were a couple inches bigger I'd be singing a different tune :P