View Full Version : need to get data off two raid-0'ed drives... how?
shrinkydinx
03-25-08, 09:14 AM
they were one raided 500gig drive on my last comp (2x250) but when i plug them in to my new setup, they arent recognized...
it used to be my c: but now when i hook them up to this new setup (with the other drives disconnected) it wont boot off them... bios will see them, but windows install (to attempt xp install repair) claims there are no hard drives found...
any ideas? would it be easier to take it in to geek squad? would they have the resources to do this easily? id rather spend a hundred bucks than spend hours trying to get this to work on mine :o
bchur83
03-25-08, 09:41 AM
You pretty much need the same raid controller in order for it to see the array and to boot off the array. Does it see the array as working? If so, you just need to load the drivers for the new controller and do a repair install. If it doesnt see the array, you will either need to find the same controller you had on the old board, or lose all of the data. I doubt the Geek Squad would be able to do anything either unless they have the same raid controller you had before.
mrgreenjeans
03-25-08, 09:46 AM
Raid 0 writes on both drives as 1 drive. You will need a raid card or the identical raid controller you initially set up under. If you used an onboard controller and then switched motherboards to one with out, oops!. if you were to get a raid controller and install the drives there is a slight chance you could recover data, though doubtful. Most RAID cards will require you to 'format' the drive(s) upon installation to recognize as 1 drive.
There are add on PCI cards with proprietary firmware that will allow you to move RAID assemblies between machines with out losing data, but it sounds as if you're past this step.
The only solution is possibly rebuilding the old rig and retrieving the data or a service like you mentioned. But with the drives off the original controller and the fact you've tried to boot off them separately could've already screwed up the boot sectors. I don't think the prospects are good.
If you''re connected to a RAID controller, and I'm trying to remember, but I think you have to F6 in the RAID drivers during the set up process, at least under XP for windows, to see the drives as one, and that's only after you've connected them to a RAID controller and configured the drives in the RAID bios prior to installing windows.
Enablingwolf
03-25-08, 10:00 AM
Without the same controller to give each half. Your in for a tough time.
This is the primary reason I moved off of zero. It is great if you want speed and do not mind fail. If the data the is split between more than one drive and it goes.
You are stuck with in simple terms. Half a drive. Unless you have the same translator chip. Otherwise you have jibberish.
If I had a fix or help. I would gladly offer it. The only option is to get the machine it was built on, back up. Or the same controller chip translating the data on the drives. If your rich, data recovery companies. They will buy and do it for you.
If you were lucky, you did an image of the array. that is independent of the array. It is just an image of the data on the partition. That is portable.
mrgreenjeans
03-25-08, 11:07 AM
For speed they're nice, but there are limitations that some don't research before making the leap. I found a PNY RAID Card (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816110002) that has on board bios and transferable between machines. But even with this for back up I use Raid 1, so each drive could be independently installed for data recovery. Even using one these add in cards now will probably lose your data.
I do have 2 raptors in a RAID 0 for boot drive on my HTPC/gaming rig, and will jettison it during the next rebuild. with the speed of the new generation drives and the increased capacity (these are the original 36g raptors) i don't see the need anymore and with the probable failure coming up (these guys have some time on 'em!) i won't go RAID boot on the rebuild.
shrinkydinx
03-25-08, 02:28 PM
well damn :(
though iirc when i first tried to boot with this mobo and only the raid 0, windows would start to load but then it would reset, like it did on the last mobo
Agh… years of emails and aim logs down the drain, oh well
Moto7451
03-25-08, 04:37 PM
You may want to invest in a PCIe Raid 0 card, another drive for back ups, or switch to Raid 10 or Raid 5. My PC is currently running a Raid 0 but it doesn't ever do anything important ;). Saved games get backed up to the Mac.
If you haven't yet done anything with the drives, you might give R-Studio (http://www.data-recovery-software.net/) a shot. I've never used it for recovering data from a broken a RAID array myself, but it is supposed to be able to do it.
If, due to hardware failure, a hardware volume set or RAID cannot be accessed, or due to data loss your system does not recognize a software volume set or RAID, and you know what hard drives were in it, you may create a Virtual volume set or RAID and process it like a real software volume set or RAID or software volume set or RAID.
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thideras
03-26-08, 01:47 AM
well damn :(
though iirc when i first tried to boot with this mobo and only the raid 0, windows would start to load but then it would reset, like it did on the last mobo
Agh… years of emails and aim logs down the drain, oh wellIf it actually starts booting off of it and crashes, that means it is working...just missing drivers! :)
All you need to do is get another disc and install onto that (unplug your RAID first so that you don't accidentally overwrite them) drive and you will be able to access your drives :D
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