The 100 MB/s ISP [Archive] - Overclockers Forums

WillysNut

01-01-02, 08:50 AM

Originally posted by klosters64a
Doubt seriously that anyone has a 100 Mb/s connection to the Web.

Oh ye of little faith!! :D j/k

I think you may be referring to SwitchPoint (http://www.airswitch.com/default.htm) Networks? Looks pretty cool. About $100 per month. Called..DSDN Digital Switched Data Network.

rivercom9

01-01-02, 03:22 PM

Thanks for the info willys!

Gandalf

01-01-02, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by rivercom9
I have heard of a company around the Colorado area that offers up to 100 MB/s internet service. Does anyone know the name of this company? Whats their web site?

WHOA!!!

Warlord2

01-01-02, 05:48 PM

omg

ME WANTS!!!

rivercom9

01-01-02, 11:34 PM

Me wants too warlord!

xCarne_Asada

01-02-02, 03:46 AM

holy crap, i watched the video for the dsdn. 100mb/100mb up and down, and they can upgrade the switch in the nieghbor hood to give gigabit speeds. ie. 1000/1000

KaHNZa

01-03-02, 10:26 PM

Dude, thats just so WRONG!!! Why can't they give that to me? I want it too!!! :D:P

Fightingpiper

01-04-02, 01:30 PM

heres another company (http://www.opticalsolutions.com/main.shtml) that wants to run fiberoptics to your house. If the price is right ill be in on that for sure. I think its going to be a long time though before providers start to do this. Hell even @home misjudged the countrys appetite for broadband and went out of business. On the other hand this technology would be great because you would only have 1 line going to your house for everything-digital cable, phone, internet at hopfully much cheaper prices than all of them combined today. The companies from MN and I first saw them on Tech TV debating it on a show. Hope somone in St. Paul wants to build this network to my house!!!!!

no affiliation to the Co. just want to be a happy customer.

Yodums

01-04-02, 02:33 PM

If anyone would like to grab some cash out of their wallets every month say 100USD for this internet their more than welcome!

supraway

01-04-02, 03:07 PM

w00t!!!!!!!!!!!!! It has been deployed in two areas in Utah... I hope it gets close to my home soon... I don't mind paying $100 a month for 100Mb/sec... My only question is, is that the actual speeds you are going to get to the internet? Because they only are talking about inter-network 100Mb/sec...

Warlord2

01-04-02, 06:05 PM

even if its not a full 100meg connection it would still be faster thin T3 atleast

I could run ATLEAST 20 CS servers on that thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but I too dont think it will show up in many places before 2004+

supraway

01-04-02, 08:56 PM

I forgot though, here at school, I have a good 100 Mb/sec connection... there are only 2 people in the dorms with this kind of connection. I was downloading a video earlier today at 9 MB/sec. 550 megs in approximately 1 minute... my hard drive was working the whole time. I couldn't imagine that at home. I brag upon you :).

Fightingpiper

01-04-02, 10:42 PM

how did you get that kind of connection in your dorm? my god life isn't fair!!!!

i2fast4u

01-07-02, 06:26 AM

What school do you go to, I wish mine had such an awesome connection, the school's so cheap the only have 1 T1 line for all the class rooms and computers. Figure that out, I was moving faster on dialup than in class, now I have roardunner, I get up to 9MB/s download 6MB/s upload thats the most I have ever seen that 100MB/s and 1GB/s man, I'll keep dreaming on that one. Mabe when I get my business up and running I'll be getting a direct fiber. for now I'll settle for the cable.

Warlord2

01-07-02, 04:03 PM

WTF

I thought cable could only do at MAX 1.5mb d/l and 384kb u/l?

how on earth did you reach 9mb and 6mb?

how did you get those figures?

flounder43

01-07-02, 04:07 PM

ERRRR, I can't even get that kind of speed over my lan...MB or Mb? Big difference.

flounder43

01-07-02, 04:20 PM

Here are some definitions to bring this discussion down to reality:

Bit - The smallest unit used to measure stored data. It takes 8 bits to make a byte.

Byte - The basic unit of storage on computers, both in RAM and on Hard disks. A single byte, composed of 8 bits, stores a single letter or number.

Megabit - A measurement of the speed of a network connection equal to a million bits of information a second.

Megabyte - A unit of memory consisting of one million bytes, or a thousand kilobytes. Often abbreviated MB, Meg, or, less often, M.

T1 Line - A high speed Internet connection. Many Internet service providers have a T1. A T1 can transfer 1.544 Megabits per second.

T3 Line - A high-speed Internet connection that typically connects directly to an Internet backbone. A T3 operates at 45 Megabits per second.

Maddman

01-07-02, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by flounder43
ERRRR, I can't even get that kind of speed over my lan...MB or Mb? Big difference.

He could be getting up to 9Mbps down, I have seen those speeds on my cable connection when I first got it. I was also getting 512Kbps up then as well but now it only gives me 128Kbps up and 2-3Mbps down. Cable companies only use modems capable of 10Mbps as do DSL companies. If you want any more then that you have to find something like a t-3 or fiber connection.

Warlord2

01-07-02, 06:30 PM

when cable first came to my town I could barelly hit 700kb/sec d/l and 52kb/sec u/l

I didnt even come CLOSE to 9mb/sec=|

hell if I had 9mb/sec d/l and 6mb/sec u/l I would host atleast 5 servers and still have bandwidth leftover

xCarne_Asada

01-07-02, 06:39 PM

The first person I knew to got cable modem got so great speeds, he got like 5 megs per sec, then they capped him off cause of the more users in the neighborhood so now he is at 2.0 megs

Maddman

01-07-02, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by Warlord2
WTF

I thought cable could only do at MAX 1.5mb d/l and 384kb u/l?

how on earth did you reach 9mb and 6mb?

how did you get those figures?

A cable or dsl conection that is used for a whole neighborhood is capable of 45Mbs. Theroretialy each house if it were on all by it self would be able to get this but the modems used are only capable of 10Mbps and then this is further reduced by the modem's programing because it has to check in as it connects and is progamed by the server acording to the inf in your account.

flounder43

01-07-02, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Maddman

He could be getting up to 9Mbps down, I have seen those speeds on my cable connection when I first got it. I was also getting 512Kbps up then as well but now it only gives me 128Kbps up and 2-3Mbps down. Cable companies only use modems capable of 10Mbps as do DSL companies. If you want any more then that you have to find something like a t-3 or fiber connection.

Yes I can see 9Mbps, but not MB...

I agree.

supraway

01-07-02, 07:06 PM

A couple of people were wondering what school I go to. University of Utah. I have a 100 megabit connection to the switch in the dorms, then that has as 100 megabit connection to the Eccles Broadcast Center, which has a 150 megabit connection to the U's Service provider.

Can anyone tell me what a 150 megabit connection is classified as?

Oh yeah, and I am the ONLY person with a 100 megabit connection now, as the older dorms we are staying in (although having CAT-5 cable) can't support 100 megabit even though it is switched -- something about how old the wiring is... I sweet talked the network admin person into giving me 100 megabit.

The connection in the Olympic Village (our new dorms) is the same, but is restricted to 10 megabit.

flounder43

01-07-02, 07:09 PM

Originally posted by supraway
A couple of people were wondering what school I go to. University of Utah. I have a 100 megabit connection to the switch in the dorms, then that has as 100 megabit connection to the Eccles Broadcast Center, which has a 150 megabit connection to the U's Service provider.

Can anyone tell me what a 150 megabit connection is classified as?

Oh yeah, and I am the ONLY person with a 100 megabit connection now, as the older dorms we are staying in (although having CAT-5 cable) can't support 100 megabit even though it is switched -- something about how old the wiring is... I sweet talked the network admin person into giving me 100 megabit.

The connection in the Olympic Village (our new dorms) is the same, but is restricted to 10 megabit.

That is off the chart as far as I know...T3=45Mbps... I just don't know.

Fightingpiper

01-07-02, 09:38 PM

DS0
64kbps
Building Block for Fractional T1

T1, DS-1
1.544Mbps
North America

E1, DS-1
2.048Mbps
Europe, Asia

T2, DS-2
6.312Mbps
North America

E2
8.448Mbps
Europe

E3
34.368Mbps
Europe and Japan

T3 or DS3
44.736Mbps
672 DS0s

OC-1, STS1
51.840Mbps
Optical Fiber

Fast Ethernet
100.00 Mbps
LAN/WAN

OC-3, STS3
155.520Mbps
Optical Fiber; 3 x 51.840Mbps

OC-3c
155.520Mbps
Optical Fiber; "c"= concatenated

OC-12, STS12
622.080Mbps
Optical Fiber

OC-48
OC-96
OC-192
OC-255
2.488Gbps
4.976Gbps
10Gbps
13.21Gbps

I WANT FIBER!!!!!!

Warlord2

01-08-02, 12:17 AM

who would have a OC-255?

PolyPill

01-08-02, 01:10 PM

I don't think some people realize the kind of speed 100mbps is. Every college, government building, and school in minnesota uses 600mbps, split up between two 300mbps lines, one to chicago, one to denver. 100mbps is insane at this point of the internet. Unless you find someone else with that connection you're never going to be able to utilize it, even with multiple connections. I also can't see how these companies can afford to supply a connection like that. it maybe 100mbps to your house, but I would assume that gets thrown into a large pool and I can't see how it can supply enough bandwidth for that at $100 a month.

Also I know people that still pay $20 a montth for aol dial up and $20 for a 2nd phone line a month, when they can have cable to dsl. Most people still don't understand what broadband is and because of this I think it will take longer than 2004 to get last-mile fiber.

rivercom9

01-09-02, 02:00 AM

Whoa! 100Mbps, that kind of speed is godlike. I have a few friends at the University of Davis whos internet is much slower than dial-up. Makes me wonder why people really dont switch to broadband. I personally dislike AOL. I dont know why, I just do.:D

foxforcefive

01-10-02, 12:23 AM

Qwest's internet backbone is OC-192...

docm

01-10-02, 09:44 AM

Crazy question is that a Sat ISP? If so did they solve the problems with the 800 ms delay up and downfeed to the Sat in orbit? If not that kind of hardware is useful for downloads and browsing but gaming and other applications it wont be too useful...

supraway

01-10-02, 06:52 PM

I dont know who your question is aimed at, docm, but I can answer both. No, it is not sattelite, it is the connection OC3 -- which is 3x fiber. If you are talking about Qwest's connection, it is just fiber connections going all over hell and routed into their own network, which is in turn seperated out into everyone else's connections.

This brings up a question though. If you were truly getting 100 megabits per second connection, even if the company had an OC-255, at 13 gb/sec, that would only allow 130 users at full bandwidth? Or do they just use switching among many people? -- Like I said before, I'm not much of a network guy :) --

Warlord2

01-10-02, 07:24 PM

thats saying all 130 users are using the full 100mb d/l

I think they are also saying in there own way that its only 100mb if you are transferring a file to a person on that same connection or a neighbor

its like a huge lan and the whole block is invited:D

Athlonman

01-12-02, 12:52 PM

Sure does make dial up look bad

PolyPill

01-14-02, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by supraway
I dont know who your question is aimed at, docm, but I can answer both. No, it is not sattelite, it is the connection OC3 -- which is 3x fiber. If you are talking about Qwest's connection, it is just fiber connections going all over hell and routed into their own network, which is in turn seperated out into everyone else's connections.

This brings up a question though. If you were truly getting 100 megabits per second connection, even if the company had an OC-255, at 13 gb/sec, that would only allow 130 users at full bandwidth? Or do they just use switching among many people? -- Like I said before, I'm not much of a network guy :) --

This is what i was getting at. 130 people paying $100 a month, $13,000 does NOT buy an OC-255, I don't care what company you are. It just seams too unreal for me to believe. I can see giving everyone in a city 100mb between each other, but keeping that connection speed to the internet is highly unlikely. Your network is only as fast as it's slowest link.

Also the fact that everyone isn't going to be using 100mb was brought up, which would be more realistic, but I think the only people that would buy this are either rich, fools, or plan on using as much bandwidth as possible.