Why wont this work? Please help.

[Metoo]

I have Asus p3v4x with latest bios, 1.1 Ghz celeron 0.18 1.75V and asus s370-dl adapter. Problem is that PC doesnt boot, just black screen. I would like to know if this board supports 1.1 cel. cpu. Some people say yes, some are not sure. I also wonder if it has something to do with other hardware than mentioned above. Do i have to do anything in bios prior to upgrade(my current config below) If this comb isnt possible i would like to know which mobo is good/best for cel/tua/pIII

my current config

Asus P3V4X
PIII 500
TNT2 ultra
PC 133 256MB
SB 128
realtek NIC

[RainMaQer]

Is that a tualatin celly? The P3V4X doesn't support them. :(

[Metoo]

I dont think so. Tualatins are made with 0.13 technology, this is 0.18 but the guy who sold me this cpu sais that i need tualatin mobo for it or cpu will get burned. What would be a good tualatin mobo?

[KILLorBE]

This is what I do when it doesn't post, I pull the power cord, hit the power and reset button a few times, plug the cord back in and that's it.

[William]

you have the latest bios on the board? If not, it may not have the multiplier options enabled for the cpu.

[Yodums]

I'm with William.

You can not, repeat can not run the chip without a bios udpate.

Your current bios is old and I'm guessing it supports a maximum multiplier of up to 8.

Your multiplier there is 11.

The newer bios will give support to the Coppermine cores.

Try it.

[Metoo]

My bios is the latest 1006.003 beta. I just hope that i didn't damage cpu.:(

[Yodums]

Originally posted by Metoo
My bios is the latest 1006.003 beta. I just hope that i didn't damage cpu.:(

I wonder if you have some few bucks you can spare or get some parts.

TRy testing your chip in a Socket 370 mobo if it works then its your slotket or mobo.

[CrystalMethod]

I thought all the Celly's past 1 Ghz were tullies... If that is the case, then only Powerleap puts out a Slot1 adapter for them. I may be wrong though. Try clearing your CMOS. Sometimes not doing that will give you the symptoms you're describing.

[funnyperson1]

Originally posted by CrystalMethod
I thought all the Celly's past 1 Ghz were tullies... If that is the case, then only Powerleap puts out a Slot1 adapter for them. I may be wrong though. Try clearing your CMOS. Sometimes not doing that will give you the symptoms you're describing.

nope most 1.0 and 1.1 GHZ are128cache normal cellys.....the 1.0A and 1.1A are tualatins but 99% of the shops dont have em yet...

[Metoo]

On monday i'll have access to Abit VP6 and hopefully cpu is ok. To answer another question: I'm not sure if cleraing CMOS will help but i can try. Thing is that when i push power button everything is fine but computer doesn't post. Than i have to turn it off by pressing powerswitch at the back of the case.

[KILLorBE]

Originally posted by Yodums
I'm with William.

You can not, repeat can not run the chip without a bios udpate.

Your current bios is old and I'm guessing it supports a maximum multiplier of up to 8.

Your multiplier there is 11.

The newer bios will give support to the Coppermine cores.

Try it.

Even the older 1005 BIOS supports a multiplier of 8 and up (I tested a cely 700 (10.5x66) on my board with the 1005 BIOS), I also read there's no such thing as multiplier support (maybe when you have an ES CPU).
AFAIK all P3V4X's support coppermine CPU's, even with the 1003 BIOS.

1) Do you have the board in "JumperFree" mode? (Might help, that's what I read)
2) Change the "JP7" jumper back to default (I should have looked better:eh?: )
3) It should work, in the database there is one guy (or gal) with a cely 1GHz on a P3V4X, and I've seen another guy with the same setup.
4) Did you try what I mentioned before (pull the power cord, hit the switches....)?, works for me when it wont post after I changed the CPU and/or slocket.

[Yodums]

Well I think you might have to wait a little longer.

Try testing the thing on the Socket 370 motherboard if it works I think it maybe something in the bios misconfiged or the slotket.

[Celemine1Gig]

And of course make sure that the Asus S370-DL Slotket is seated correctly. I had one of these Asus slotkets a few month ago and when I put the Slotket in the first time, I didn't do it right.
It wasn't seated corectly and the PC didn't boot!!
I was nearly going mad, until I found out that I didn't push it hard enough. The Asus S370-DL Slotkets are very hard to install, becuase they fit the Slot perfectly thus they're not getting loose.

So just reinstall the Slotket with some force until it's perfectly seated in the Slot!!

[Metoo]

I tried everything you people mentioned but still nothing. That's it. On monday i'll check cpu with abit vp6 just to see if it works than i'm buying new motherboard. Thanks for your help.

P.S. How big is risk of burning your cpu when inserted in unsupported mobo?

[KILLorBE]

Very small if you ask me, as long as you didn't try to run it at outrageous voltages like 2.2V and up. (tho some CPU's don't mind to run @ 2.24V....Like mine:D )

[Yodums]

Hmmm the risks vary.

If you were to stick your Socket 370 in a P1 board you'll overvolt it or so.

IF you stick it in another Socket 370 motherboard than the risks are pretty small but can damage.

[Metoo]

Well, i never got it to work on Asus P3V4X but just today i tested my cely 1.1 on Abit VP6 and everything worked. Now i'm off to the store for a new board, probably ASus Tusc2-l.

thanks for all your help

[Yodums]

Just a tip the Asus TUSCL2 doesn't have 1/3 dividers so your going to be stuck when you can't hit 134 fsb in this case and if you do the PCI bus maybe out of spec.

It'll cause problems like HDD corruption or PCI cards acting funny.

Go for an Abit ST6, you'll be much safer and satisfied as well with the option of future Tualatin support.


Yodums

[murdoch]

Making some leaps of faith here from what you posted but i would have to agree its 1 of the 2 possible answers already given.Slot adapter or bios upgrade. Since you are coming from a 500 p3 I am not sure But I believe that the p3 coppermine started at 533 for .18 micron(not sure never had one). So I would beleive that maybe you are using an adapter supporting only ppga not fcpga. So try out an asus 370 great for your config and set it up to use coppermine. The bios upgrade will allow for higher multiplier. But I have seen problems way back where guys bought coppermines that didn't boot cause they had wrong adapter and since you say that its .18 micron or one way to tell is to post the sspec on the chip and we could tell you whether it is a tual or coppermine.Why would the guy say it could kill your chip he either is right and its a tualitan or he cofused the coppermine with ppga and it will boot at 2.0 volts that could kill a sub standard chip but not likely.Post the sspec and we can tell for sure