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Just out of curiosity, I was wondering how many of you have cracked the cores of your chips while putting the fans on?
My first tbird 1gig suffered that fate and since then I still get nervous as hell putting the fans on.
Heavy
Thermal
01-02-02, 05:19 PM
Always be easy when installing the Heatsink, never put pressure on top of the unit, pressure is only applied to the clips.
-& don't forget the thermal paste!-dis the tape if it's there.:)
WillysNut
01-02-02, 05:37 PM
...if I had a nickle for every "OMG I think I killed my T-Bird!" post, I would be a rich man today! You are not alone my friend. Many a member here has lost cores to bad heat sink designs, bad luck or what I like to refer to as "other stuff". Which usually means "I'm gonna get this heatsink on if it kills me!" :D
Thermal's suggestions are correct. I'd add that if you're trying to install or remove an HSF inside a case and you don't have enough room...STOP.
Take the time to undo those easy IDE connectors, PCI cards, etc, remove your Mobo, and install outside the case where you have plenty of room around the socket.
WyrmMaster
01-02-02, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by WillysNut
...if I had a nickle for every "OMG I think I killed my T-Bird!" post, I would be a rich man today! You are not alone my friend. Many a member here has lost cores to bad heat sink designs, bad luck or what I like to refer to as "other stuff". Which usually means "I'm gonna get this heatsink on if it kills me!" :D
Thermal's suggestions are correct. I'd add that if you're trying to install or remove an HSF inside a case and you don't have enough room...STOP.
Take the time to undo those easy IDE connectors, PCI cards, etc, remove your Mobo, and install outside the case where you have plenty of room around the socket.
Yes, definetly remove the mobo from the case. Or atleast remove the PSU. I usually have to do that with mine it only has a half inch between the PSU and Heatsink.
chipped the corner of the die on my 1000 when I tried putting my FOP38 back on after lapping. Still runs at 1200 (its throttled back due to RAM instability).
how do u ppl tell your chip is cracked/crushed or whatever? is the damage obvious to see?
if you know what to look for it should be pretty obvious - i didnt even realize i broke mine til i took it in and the guy at the comp store pointed it out to me. take a look at mine here (http://24.22.209.39/midwest/bench/chippedtbirb.jpg). notice the top corners. it was a sad day :(
Heavy
Never damaged a core in my life. haven't played with any XPs yet, but I've swapped many Durons and T-birds. I can swap a processor in about 5 minutes, which includes cleaning the ASII off the old processor.
One thing that is REALLY useful: motherboard trays. My case has one, and it makes swapping processor very simple. Just undo the cables to the expansion cards and mobo, undo six screws, and slide the tray out. So simple. I love it.
Originally posted by Xach
how do u ppl tell your chip is cracked/crushed or whatever? is the damage obvious to see?
A "lump" in the thermal paste is usually a good indication.
I've chipped the corner on my 1.2 T-BIRD, fortunately it still runs at 1.4+.
Good Luck!
oh yeah, crushed the corners of a Duron 800 then it's backup 750 on my first try at mounting a Thermaltake Mini Super Orb. Nice little lesson in motherboard physics at the bargain price of two CPUs. Nearly shot the system a couple times, just to work off the rush...
(note to self: move gun to BOTTOM of tool case)
Blue Jester_2112
01-04-02, 05:21 PM
I chipped my 1.2 also, still runs fine at 1.4. Had it at 1.45 for a while but moved it back since my HS is only OK. It looks prety bad, chipped all along the top but it's a trooper. I don't understand how some chip slightly and die while others can take a major whallop and keep going like nothing happened.
Maximus Nickus
01-04-02, 05:58 PM
My 1000 has chips all along the top of it and ridges as well!!!
But it runs at 1300 with Defauolt Voltage, my mate knackered his chip when he had the tiniest crack!
Its all down to the chip.
got an old axia 1.2 with chips in 3 corners running tight currently back at 1.2 in a friends office system.Even with 3 chips this baby ran stable at 1.53
When I saw the first chip I was scared to death the second chip i saw i figured oh well if she is dead i deserve it.
at the third chip i said to myself no big deal this axia loves the smaller die !~!!!.
hey Gersen what part of indiana do you live in?
slick306
01-05-02, 03:33 PM
I would recommend the Alpha 8045 because it screws in, and is hard to wreck the cpu because of this. I hadn't installed a heatsink on a socket A chip, and hte 8045 was first one and I had no problems with it at all, and it's sels for about $40.
Slick.
Originally posted by Wa11y
One thing that is REALLY useful: motherboard trays. My case has one, and it makes swapping processor very simple. Just undo the cables to the expansion cards and mobo, undo six screws, and slide the tray out. So simple. I love it.
Trays are really useful. I have to take out three ribbon cables, two screws and the ATX power connector and the fan cable. Nice 'n' easy.
Bristolian
01-07-02, 05:37 AM
would chips or cracks not raise the cpu temp?
Originally posted by Bristolian
would chips or cracks not raise the cpu temp?
chips or cracks would make the cpu not work at all....unless your are one of the lucky few and it still works after you chip it but thats rare
pogue1000
01-07-02, 04:53 PM
i chipped my 1.2 tbird, i think i am gonna make a key chain out of it :)
i also have a duron 900 that is chipped now, but still running :)
i just purchased a couple shims, cause i wanna save my duron while i can, and when i get my rma for my xp i dont want to mess it up..
heck i remember going at my heatsink one day, i was determined to get it off, i had my leatherman opened up iwth the pliers ready to go and screwdriver.. boy did i get it off.. :)
but that is the one that eventually got chipped :)
now i am careful. to lazy to remove from case though :)
hey drdingo21 i am from Warsaw, i work up in Goshen!
Originally posted by pogue1000
i chipped my 1.2 tbird, i think i am gonna make a key chain out of it :)
i also have a duron 900 that is chipped now, but still running :)
i just purchased a couple shims, cause i wanna save my duron while i can, and when i get my rma for my xp i dont want to mess it up..
heck i remember going at my heatsink one day, i was determined to get it off, i had my leatherman opened up iwth the pliers ready to go and screwdriver.. boy did i get it off.. :)
but that is the one that eventually got chipped :)
now i am careful. to lazy to remove from case though :)
hey drdingo21 i am from Warsaw, i work up in Goshen!
really? where at?
reidroach
01-08-02, 10:51 AM
Just the other day for me to lol... for avbout a week it would post and boot into win 2000 but every day the temp would increse 2 or three degrees and after awhile it would not go into win, then just the other day it would not even post so if you have a broken put it aside for a rainy day if you must have a cpu if the one you are currently using fries or breaks worse... just what i would do!;)
reidroach
01-08-02, 10:53 AM
just a question, do you use a drill to put the hole in it to make the keychain? and also, you go through the corner? or core?
Originally posted by reidroach
just a question, do you use a drill to put the hole in it to make the keychain? and also, you go through the corner? or core?
Good luck trying to drill through them! also don't go through the core otherwise it will just break into pices in your hand....
pogue1000
01-08-02, 05:22 PM
well i was gonna try the corner..
guess we will see :)
i work in the offices at Homecrest drdingo
its good to know that im not the only person that visits these forums from around here :D
reidroach
01-09-02, 10:15 AM
hey drdingo, what happend to your shuttle?
wildone
01-09-02, 10:47 AM
I chipped my 900 TB when it was a 200.00+ cpu ,about a year and a half ago ,it still works ,would only do 1000 but it was a crappy code anyway.
wildone
Originally posted by reidroach
hey drdingo, what happend to your shuttle?
well i was trying to install my waterblock and the 4 houls around the socket were just slightly to small...so i drilled the just a little bigger but on one hole i uprooted one of those little gold wires that run all over the place and she never worked again:( when i called for the RMA i told them that i don't know what happend it just stopped working but its been like 3 months now and i still haven't goten it back. So when the new ak 35 comes out im gonna get one of them.
pogue1000
01-11-02, 04:33 PM
"when i called for the RMA i told them that i don't know what happend it just stopped working "
jeez i better no one in here has ever used that line :)
heh, i told them it just stopped! so i hope it works...
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