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Flu!d
01-02-02, 11:35 PM
Has anybody noticed an increase in people 'jumping ship' back to Intel with the advent of the low cost, great peforming and very overclockable Celeron Tualatin 1.2's? 'Cause I sure have....

ol' man
01-02-02, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Flu!d
Has anybody noticed an increase in people 'jumping ship' back to Intel with the advent of the low cost, great peforming and very overclockable Celeron Tualatin 1.2's? 'Cause I sure have....

Yep:D

Burning Phoenix
01-03-02, 12:56 AM
If you noticed the gap in prices are closing fast. AMD vs Intel and DDR vs RDRAM.

Flu!d
01-03-02, 01:36 AM
Oh yeah!:D

funnyperson1
01-03-02, 07:11 PM
well theres a lot of people that prefer stable, quiet, cheap systems that overclock to the bone and now that has been made available by intel for a very affordable price (much better than the PIII/P4)......i think intel should admit that the P4 was a mistake and sell 512cache PIII tualatins at 1.8gh as their high end cpus:D

Sempei
01-03-02, 08:55 PM
Who's jumpin' ship? Some of us never left!:cool:

funnyperson1
01-03-02, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by Sempei
Who's jumpin' ship? Some of us never left!:cool:

those of use who cant afford to upgrade every time sonething new comes out :)

Rooster
01-03-02, 09:07 PM
been here and never left

flounder43
01-03-02, 09:08 PM
Yeah it seems that Intel has "seen the light" and embraced DDR. However, what's a Celeron???

J/K:D

Very truly yours,

Still using AMD

Flu!d
01-03-02, 10:05 PM
Still using AMD

Just follow the crowd....:)

CrystalMethod
01-03-02, 11:12 PM
If I went AMD right now, I'd have to get both MB and CPU. Not really cost effective. I have nothing against AMD's, they just require a lot more attention in the cooling department than the Intel's do. I have two more intel systems to put together this year before I use up all my Intel parts and then go for an AMD rig.

Yodums
01-03-02, 11:14 PM
I've always been in the Intel ship.

Although I'm still having minds to jump AMD for just performance reasons heat doesn't bother me I plan to go water cooling anytime soon.

funnyperson1
01-03-02, 11:27 PM
i been in the intel chip ever since my dad bout that Intel486DX.....i had Pentium 1s Pentium 2s Pentium3 and a Celeron.....nothing against amd but but for my dads purposes (hes made most of the purchases) intel was better....also back when we got the PIII for me AMD was still in the K6 (yuck) stage.....if i had money right now and i didnt have a Socket370mobo sitting around collecting dust an AMD DDR system would look really nice

Flu!d
01-04-02, 12:28 AM
Personally i'm not gonna change to AMD just for the 'sake' of changing to AMD when the peformance gains over my current system are negligable....Especially when Intel are releasing their best processors ever....On the socket 370 platform!

Yodums
01-04-02, 08:33 AM
I still find AMD really good performance for their price.

The AMD 1 gig morgan core in Ottawa is only 100 dollars and the Celeron 1gig is 130-145 dollars.

From that difference you can add to other equipment and more performance can be added or so.

Although I like any chip as long as I have a computer I'm good :D

Yodums
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theflyingrat
01-04-02, 06:42 PM
Jumping ship? Who was on one in the first place?

I, like many others, have been considering a Celeratin setup, especially now that they are availabe in 1.0 and 1.1 flavors. And I'll be the first to admit that out of the last ten computers in my household, eight have been AMD. And, for the most part, we've been very happy with them. But it's not like there's any "brand loyalty" or anything going on here; it happens to be what we can afford, and it works well enough. Intel doesn't suck and AMD doesn't rule, and it goes the same the other way around.

With the advent of the Tualatin Celerons with high-yield overclocks and prices that are half ways sane (which is more than what I can say for the P4), people are interested in them. It's a good product, and people know it. But it's not like the release of this CPU is going to make me run into the street and yell "AMD sucks!"

SP
01-04-02, 08:17 PM
Right now and for the immediate future all the interesting stuff is going to be on the Intel side. With Northwood and Prestonia becoming available really soon ( in fact Prestonias are already being shipped), things are gonna get interesting. Northwood is promising because of it's potential to reach much higher clock speeds and it is going to be the overclockers chip of choice this year. Imagine being able to buy a 2.0Ghz chip and overclock it to nearly 3.0Ghz. That is an overclockers dream come true. Really the P4 is the perfect processor for overclockers. Most of them just haven't realized it yet, but they will. Prestonia is the Xeon equivalent of Northwood. It is interesting not just because like Northwood it will also clock higher but perhaps more importantly because with it will be the introduction of Intels Hyperthreading or SMT (also Known as Jackson technology). Hyperthreading will make use of unused resources inside the processor to simultaneously execute multiple threads thus increase the efficency of the processor. Read about it here. (http://developer.intel.com/technology/hyperthread/) This could be a big deal in servers and high end workstations or other areas where multiprocessor systems are used. With Hyperthreading a single processor system will behave like a dual and a dual processor system will behave like a quad. Applications that are threaded and run faster on multiprocessor systems will see the most benefit in terms of raw performance by themselves from Hyperthreading. However, hyperthreading should also make a system much more responsive and make multi-tasking much better even with applications that aren't threaded well and get no benefit from hyperthreading by themselves. Here (http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20011228/etc_prestoniademo.html) are a couple of Prestonias running in a Supermicro P4DCE. Notice how task manager shows 4 CPU graphs and the bios reports 4 CPUs as being installed when infact there are only 2 physical CPUs installed.