AK v8 is out!!

[Brightmorn]

AK V8 (http://lunatics.kwsn.net/discussion-forum/releases-all-released-versions-are-announced-here.msg7491.html;topicseen#msg7491) over at Lunatics!

[Sephis]

I just installed them. I can't wait to see how well they work out. The seti forum over at the project site has been talking about these for a while. They are supposed to be significantly faster than the earlier KWSN apps.

[evomac]

Just wondering if I should be alright using this app. I deleted the old optimized app that I had running on my Q6600 and install the version listed above.

Here is the messages I got after restart.

4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Starting BOINC client version 5.10.45 for windows_intelx86
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||log flags: task, file_xfer, sched_ops
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Libraries: libcurl/7.18.0 OpenSSL/0.9.8e zlib/1.2.3
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Data directory: C:\Program Files\BOINC
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM|SETI@home|Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Processor: 4 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz [x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 11]
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Processor features: fpu tsc pae nx sse sse2 mmx
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||OS: Microsoft Windows XP: Professional Edition, Service Pack 2, (05.01.2600.00)
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Memory: 2.75 GB physical, 4.59 GB virtual
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Disk: 232.88 GB total, 99.74 GB free
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Local time is UTC -4 hours
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM|SETI@home|URL: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID: 4321391; location: (none); project prefs: default
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||General prefs: from SETI@home (last modified 28-Apr-2008 20:58:53)
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Host location: none
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||General prefs: using your defaults
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Reading preferences override file
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when active to 1407.23MB
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Preferences limit memory usage when idle to 2533.02MB
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||Preferences limit disk usage to 9.31GB
4/30/2008 5:00:07 PM||file projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu/KWSN_2.4_SSE3-Core2_MB.exe not found


Note the last line. It referenced the old optimized exe. Can I assume this is alright and the new optimized app is running alright?

[Brightmorn]

make sure you closed out Boinc/ stopped the service and restarted after you installed the new app. If you do not it will not reload the new settings in applocal.

[evomac]

Yeah I had all the processes killed. Including BOINC tray. My cpu went down to idle temps.

[Sir Ulli]

this is nice, my Quad

Asus P5B, Intel® Core 2 Quad Q6600, Thermalright SI-128 und nem Papst Silent - 120 ,mit 2 x 1Gig GSkill PC800 DDR2 Speicher, Graka Nforce 7.600GS, TV-Karte Technotrend TT-DVB-Pci, 750 Gig Sata Samsung, und 400 Gig Samsung Sata, DVD NEC 5800, Brenner LG GSA-4167B, rennt zurzeit at 8 x 405 =3.240...

is about 65 Miutes fon An Wu...

Greetings from Germany
Sir Ulli

[Sir-Epix]

can anyone access the page? Or better yet have the core 2 client version already downloaded...I want!!!!

[Sir Ulli]

can anyone access the page? Or better yet have the core 2 client version already downloaded...I want!!!!

if you have Probs, send me a Mesasage, and i will send you the right Version

if you tell me the right Version

overloaded at this Time i think...

have you tried this

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=9

Greetings from Germany
Sir Ulli

[evomac]

can anyone access the page? Or better yet have the core 2 client version already downloaded...I want!!!!

SSE3 or SSSE3 version? I have both downloaded. PM me with your email address and I will send it over to you.

[Sir Ulli]

i have this on my Web

SSE3 Version Amd and Intel

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSSE3x.zip

Imhell only


http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE3.zip

SSE4.2 Version only 45 CPUs

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE4.1.zip

Greetings from Germany NRW
Sir Ulli

[Sir Ulli]

i have this on my Web

SSE3 Version Amd and Intel

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSSE3x.zip

Imhell only

AMD amd Athloms CPus at SSE3
http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE3.zip

SSE4.2 Version only 45 CPUs

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE4.1.zip

Greetings from Germany NRW
Sir Ulli

[Brightmorn]

Try going to the main SETI boards to get the app, use the mirror links on this page:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=31810

[Sir-Epix]

Thx. All I am smokin NOW!

[Sir Ulli]

i have this on my Web

SSE3 Version Amd and Intel

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSSE3x.zip

Imhell only

AMD amd Athloms CPus at SSE3
http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE3.zip

SSE4.2 Version only 45 CPUs

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE4.1.zip

Greetings from Germany NRW
Sir Ulli

this Page is, also still working :)

Greetings from Germany
Sir Ulli

[evomac]

Jeez... my Q6600 undervolted at stock clocks had a hard time keeping at 100% with the previously used optimizer (at 71° or under) with the stock cooler. 1 hour of using this pushed its temps to 75°. So back down to 85% I go :(

Yes my retail heatsink is not in the best of shape. When I first removed it to install the TRUE I broke one of the push pins. So it doesn't mount as well as it could. I'm not pulling it off because I went through enough trouble to even get it to safely cover the chip. Watercooling should be coming in this weekend.

To summarize, this app must be doing something good to raise my temps 5° in 1 hour. :)

[donuts]

I've been keeping an eye on one unit I just started, (24mraa.6297.4162.15.8.....) The time it's taking is like WOW! This unit was 1h39m when it started, with the new app, @ 50% complete 28 min cpu time.

I'll keep an eyeball on these, but in the past 1/2 hr I've been running it...
There could be some BIG gains out of this app.

Unit finished-55m 45sec., down from 1hr 39m. the only thing that changed is the app. (I've got the SSSE on my old quad)

evomac- my temps didn't change much at all, if anything they dropped. ymmv.

[Sir-Epix]

I've been keeping an eye on one unit I just started, (24mraa......) The time it's taking is like WOW! This unit was 1h39m when it started, with the new app, @ 50% complete 28 min cpu time.

I'll keep an eyeball on these, but in the past 1/2 hr I've been running it...
There could be some BIG gains out of this app.

I am getting about a 1 hour drop in times on my T7300! I am loving this!

[evomac]

evomac- my temps didn't change much at all, if anything they dropped. ymmv.

I thought that for about the first 30 minutes or so, then they just skyrocketed. I am on EST so if anything it got cooler in the hour ambient wise. Even at 85% cpu usage my average work time seems to have went down.

I know its the cooler holding me back, heck its pitiful that I can't even run stock clocks @ undervolted. Just have to keep saying, only a week at most longer!

Then again I also justified it by adding another C2 Intel and a AMDx2 laptop for 24x7 :). 11 total running 24x7 now :)

[donuts]

Yep, the ambients dropped in the past hour (I'm in New England), but so far my temps are holding.

11 rigs! I NEED some upgrades... fast!

[muddocktor]

Coolness here. They even got an SSE4.1 app for my QX too. I am really curious how much this will help my QX out too. :D

[ScottinIndy]

A heads up as for those on single cores that support SSE-3. The appropriate app for your CPU is well worth it as well. 24mr08af used to take 3:27 on my A-64 4000 San Diego at stock 2.4, With the new app it is well on it's way to knocking it out in 2:21, So you will see some worthwhile gains as well.

Edit, Ok, It picked up steam, Before new enhancement 3:27:43, After new enhancement 1:58:06

[Brightmorn]

Coolness here. They even got an SSE4.1 app for my QX too. I am really curious how much this will help my QX out too. :D

Some have reported a 40% drop!

[muddocktor]

I don't have anything to compare it to (just got in from the rig today) but from what I'm seeing, it is flying through the wu's like a hot knife through butter. :D

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9342/qxnewoptimizedappmb6.jpg

The top 4 results were running when I upgraded to the new optimized apps.

[svirfnebli]

Is that you QX9650 ? WOW!

I couldnt really justify spending a grand on a CPU, but after seeing 25mins per WU ... well I just might now

[Roisen]

this Page is, also still working :)

Greetings from Germany
Sir Ulli

Thank you for mirroring these!

[evomac]

Jeez that is ridiculous those speeds with the QX. I'm incredibly jealous. That is essentially 4x faster than my Q6600@ 2.4.

... I need more rigs :)

[Rickdstik]

First WU that would have normally taken ~2200 seconds to finish, completed in 1500. This I like.

[muddocktor]

Is that you QX9650 ? WOW!

I couldnt really justify spending a grand on a CPU, but after seeing 25mins per WU ... well I just might now

You don't have to spend nearly that kind of money now. You can buy the Q9450 and get around 3600 MHz with it and get close to that performance. I'm only running at 3800 MHz on my QX. It does look like the SSE4.1 instructions bring some more performance to the table though, and all the 45nm Intels have that instruction set. But it doesn't look like my Q6600 isn't doing badly with the new optimizations either and who knows, it might just make it to 5000 RAC too.

[evomac]

But it doesn't look like my Q6600 isn't doing badly with the new optimizations either and who knows, it might just make it to 5000 RAC too.

Out of curiosity for comparison sake, how long are your WU taking with your Q6600 @ 3.5? Of course this is assuming you have installed the new optimizer on it.

Thanks in advance :)

[El<(')>Maxi]

Looks good, and the conversion went smoothly ;)

[stratcatprowlin]

I thought finishing Seti work units faster didn't give any more credit?Did they change that or am I wrong altogether?

[Sir Ulli]

so looks good

http://home.teleos-web.de/ubrinkschmidt/SAH/ak8-1.kpg.jpg

with my Quad, at 8 x 405 =3.240...

Greetings from Germany
Sir Ulli

[Hamm3r]

hmm installed the SSE3 version on my old Prescott at home and it seems roughly 20% faster than with old SSE3 client. :)

[Hamm3r]

I thought finishing Seti work units faster didn't give any more credit?Did they change that or am I wrong altogether?

AFAIK they only count the number of FLOPs executed. Better optimized client allows CPU to do more FLOPs in a given amount of time, so you get more credit.

[QuietIce]

I thought finishing Seti work units faster didn't give any more credit?Did they change that or am I wrong altogether? No, you're right. WU credit is WU credit regardless of how long it takes.

BUT if you can do 30 WUs/day on one core instead of 20 WUs/day on the same core. ;)



Edit: Got the SSSE3 and SSE3 apps running on the Q and BE but can't get my hands on the SSE2 apps for my s939 rigs! :eek: Lunatics is still down and Crunch3r hasn't updated his apps yet ... :cry:

[muddocktor]

No, you're right. WU credit is WU credit regardless of how long it takes.

BUT if you can do 30 WUs/day on one core instead of 20 WUs/day on the same core. ;)



Edit: Got the SSSE3 and SSE3 apps running on the Q and BE but can't get my hands on the SSE2 apps for my s939 rigs! :eek: Lunatics is still down and Crunch3r hasn't updated his apps yet ... :cry:

Why do you need the SSE2 version for your socket 939 rigs? Unless they are old Winchester single core machines, they support SSE3 and the AMD/Intel SSE3 app works fine on them. I installed that on my X2-4400 system last night and it's running fabulously.

[muddocktor]

Out of curiosity for comparison sake, how long are your WU taking with your Q6600 @ 3.5? Of course this is assuming you have installed the new optimizer on it.

Thanks in advance :)

I'll need to let it get a small accumulation of results built up and take a screenshot for you later. I accidentally made the wrong machine report in manually this morning and it cleared all the results.

[donuts]

Why do you need the SSE2 version for your socket 939 rigs? Unless they are old Winchester single core machines, they support SSE3 and the AMD/Intel SSE3 app works fine on them. I installed that on my X2-4400 system last night and it's running fabulously.

My single core, socket 940 rig, has sse-3. I think I read that there won't be an "AK app" for sse-2 and lower.

[QuietIce]

Why do you need the SSE2 version for your socket 939 rigs? Unless they are old Winchester single core machines, they support SSE3 and the AMD/Intel SSE3 app works fine on them. I installed that on my X2-4400 system last night and it's running fabulously. I remember reading about the last set of apps and AMD SSE3 - it didn't do any better than the SSE2 version so it wasn't even published. But if the new version covers both AMD and Intel it makes since for them not to release an SSE2 app.

My single core, socket 940 rig, has sse-3. I think I read that there won't be an "AK app" for sse-2 and lower. I hadn't seen that ...

[ScottinIndy]

My single core, socket 940 rig, has sse-3. I think I read that there won't be an "AK app" for sse-2 and lower.

They may have something for SSE2 and lower eventually, Quoted from the article

"
This release offers significantly improved performance for SSE3 capable (or Higher) PC's Running either 32 or 64 Bit versions of Windows. (Sorry, no SSE2 or less at this stage, we are investigating this possibility for the near future)"

[muddocktor]

BTW, here's a screenshot of what my Q6600@3510 is doing with the new optimized apps:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7645/q6600newoptimizedappmr0.jpg

[donuts]

They may have something for SSE2 and lower eventually, Quoted from the article

"
This release offers significantly improved performance for SSE3 capable (or Higher) PC's Running either 32 or 64 Bit versions of Windows. (Sorry, no SSE2 or less at this stage, we are investigating this possibility for the near future)"

I stand corrected- (thank-you:thup:)

See what I get trying to rely on my memory.:)

[El<(')>Maxi]

BTW, here's a screenshot of what my Q6600@3510 is doing with the new optimized apps

Thats interesting, I have a 6600 runnning 3280 doing basically the same...most under 1 min. Before AK V8 these same WU would run around 1:22 - 1:25

[evomac]

Thanks for the screenshot of the Q6600. Makes me feel better that my Q is crunching properly. My WU's are taking around 1 hour 15 minutes. Once I increase the clocks it should put me right around where yours are.

[stratcatprowlin]

AFAIK they only count the number of FLOPs executed. Better optimized client allows CPU to do more FLOPs in a given amount of time, so you get more credit.

Ok yeah that makes sense.Thanks.

[stratcatprowlin]

Is there an optimized app for 64bit Ubuntu 8 for a AMD Opteron 180?

[freakdiablo]

Just put the new ones on my main desktop, will put them on my laptop and mini server later.

[QuietIce]

Is there an optimized app for 64bit Ubuntu 8 for a AMD Opteron 180? You might want to bookmark Crunch3r's page :) http://calbe.dw70.de/seti.html

He usually has the latest and greatest but he's a little behind getting the AK app posted ...

[Brightmorn]

Is there an optimized app for 64bit Ubuntu 8 for a AMD Opteron 180?
Looks like Crunch3r is building one
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46810

[ScottinIndy]

I noticed after installing the new app that even though the app was working it was still showing enhanced version 527, When checking messages today it is now showing version 528, So I guess everything is getting updated.

[QuietIce]

That's odd - mine are showing AK V8? It's showing as AK in Task Manager, right ...?

[ScottinIndy]

Here is what I was talking about.

5/2/2008 8:36:47 AM|SETI@home|Starting task 25mr08ad.17698.25021.3.8.65_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 527

5/2/2008 10:42:02 AM|SETI@home|Starting task 26mr08ac.11609.3753.4.8.211_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 528

[donuts]

Scott, check the task manager. Mine show AK-V8 there, version 527 in the Boinc manager.

[ScottinIndy]

Scott, check the task manager. Mine show AK-V8 there, version 527 in the Boinc manager.

Yeah, Mine is showing Ak-v8 in the task manager, It just started showing version 528 in the boinc manager this morning.

[El<(')>Maxi]

Everyone should be runnning this, it makes a difference ;)

[QuietIce]

Still having problems getting on Lunatics!

Can somebody that CAN got there post the address so I can put it in my list - something must be wrong with the local look-up server ... :-/

[QuietIce]

A very special OC*SETI THANK YOU to Alex Kan
and all the other contributor's to the new apps!
:attn: :clap: :clap: :soda: :beer: :beer: :clap: :clap:


Was going to do this in the Milestones thread then decided it was more appropriate over here ...

[muddocktor]

Yeah, you got that right, Q_I. My RAC has been steadily climbing since I installed the new optimized v8 apps across the board. Both my AMD machines and my Intel machines are seeing sizable gains in both RAC and processing of wu's. :thup:

[Sir Ulli]

Still having problems getting on Lunatics!

Can somebody that CAN got there post the address so I can put it in my list - something must be wrong with the local look-up server ... :-/

this is also running

http://www.haveland.com/seti/

and

http://web.telia.com/~u11309929/

Greetings from Germany
Sir Ulli

[freakdiablo]

Working well for me, was averaging around 2000 before and now getting 2100 and still climbing.

[El<(')>Maxi]

I don't know, smtn strikes me as strange when performance can increase as drastically as it has running this optimization. I can see 3-5% but I'm well over 20% more production and still climbing.

[TC]

I'm running a harpertown quad xeon server under linux x64 at the moment. Even with the optimized linux x64 client it averages about 2.5 hours per wu. I was reading about this AK v8 client and wondering if I would fare better running it under windows 2003 on the same machine. I have win2003 installed as a vm under xen. Just don't know if a vm would take a performance hit that would wipe out the advantages offered by this client. Might be interesting to allocate 2 of my cpu's to windows and keep 2 under linux at the same time and see what happens.

[Sir-Epix]

I'm running a harpertown quad xeon server under linux x64 at the moment. Even with the optimized linux x64 client it averages about 2.5 hours per wu. I was reading about this AK v8 client and wondering if I would fare better running it under windows 2003 on the same machine. I have win2003 installed as a vm under xen. Just don't know if a vm would take a performance hit that would wipe out the advantages offered by this client. Might be interesting to allocate 2 of my cpu's to windows and keep 2 under linux at the same time and see what happens.

I would be very interested to see the results of that Tim...keep us updated if you do decide to do a head to head test.

[Brightmorn]

Supposedly there is a Linux version in the works (as well as SSE2). When there is some news on it I will definitely make a post.

[Brightmorn]

As promised, SSE2 version update!!
Those of you running mirrors if you could add this one as well, seeing as how some people are having issues getting to Lunatics (though that seems to be resolving its self)

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=27

[QuietIce]

As promised, SSE2 version update!!
Those of you running mirrors if you could add this one as well, seeing as how some people are having issues getting to Lunatics (though that seems to be resolving its self)

http://lunatics.kwsn.net/index.php?module=Downloads;catd=27 I'm still shut out of Lunatics. :(

The older versions have an AMD SSE3 because there was little if any increase in performance over the SSE2 in those versions. Did you happen to see a chart comparing the AK SSE2 to the AK SSE3 on AMD's ...?

[Brightmorn]

Alternate locations:
http://narod.ru/disk/309125000/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE2.zip.html
http://www.andyworth.co.uk/seti/AK_v8.0_Win32_SSE2.zip

For the V8 code more than just SSE3 (and other) instruction sets were used. They changed format and optimized lengths and arrays of data. What they did for this new SSE2 version was to replace the code that was SSE3 specific with the multiple lines that SSE2 needs to run to do the same thing. So it will be slower but much faster than what was out previously due to other optimizations. There were some graphs, but it is a VERY low sample size due to the length of time it takes these machines to crunch a current workunit.

As for the AMD question, I don't think SSE2 has been out long enough for there to be much to compare between the two. So, as of right now it is unknown.

[muddocktor]

QuietIce, I haven't seen any graphs on the new optimizations with AMD machines, but I can tell you that I've seen about a 15% increase in RAC on my X2-4400 system after upgrading to the AK apps on it. Before the AK apps, it was running around 950 RAC, Now it looks like it's settling around 1160 RAC. Definitely a good boost in RAC. :thup:

[Rickdstik]

Seeing about 10-12% here as well. The C2D topped out just around 1500RAC, its now closing in on 1700. The q6600s were good for 2600 (not sure what on earth is nerfing these two, but neither of them have been able to produce like some of the quads you guys have) and are now 2900 or so. Not even going to worry about dropping v8 on the server, Celeron D 420 probably not even going to break 300 RAC with that thing.

[QuietIce]

I've seen good increases with the AK apps, too. :)

I was just curious about the SSE2 apps. With the history of SSE2 & SSE3 on AMD's the SSE2 app might be as good or better than the SSE3 for 32-bit systems ... :shrug:

[TC]

Huge difference on my server running windows AK8 vs. optimized linux x64 client. On the same hardware the linux host is averaging ~8000 sec/wu, while the win2003 vm guest is running ~5300 sec/wu. This is a xeon 5405 (harpertown core) with 10GB PC2 5300.

[Careface]

Been out of the loop for a while - Installed the SSE3 and SSSE3 apps on my 3000+ @ 2.56 and E6400 @ 3.2 respectively, and in the last 3 days Ive had a good +500 RAC spread between the two, which is still increasing.

Installed the SSE2 app on my X2 TL-56 laptop, hoping to see some improvements there :)
Overall, from the graphs it seems Im pulling in an extra ~1000 credit/day, which will be increased as the TL-56 gets going. Very impressed with the results so far!

Lol, as it turns out, seems Im pretty close to a rather nice milestone :) man, Ive been so busy the past few weeks - havent had the time to check anything out! Damn you university! :mad:

Crunch on mateys! *insert pirate-emote which OCF really needs here*

[silent bob]

ok just AK'd 2 rig , q6600@3ghz and FX60 @ 2.9ghz will AK the rest when they finish out the last WU's for FaH


1 more q6600 added but I have to reseat hsf cuz idle temps are too high load temps are insane 57-62

[El<(')>Maxi]

Q6600 @ 3300MHz

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/AK8.jpg

[tricknasty]

HoLY shnikes maxi thats alot of rac with that q6600

[Rickdstik]

I just dont get why my quads are so underperforming ... even with v8. Im beginning to think its the board, as my C2D performs quite well (over 1800 RAC on a e4300 @ 3 GHz) ... not sure what else it could be

[silent bob]

how fast does the RAC start to show up ( Seti n00b here) cuz I got 1 AK'd and 1 not AK'd , both q6600's @3ghz 1 Vista and 1 XP . Vista keeps giving AK errors so the Vista box is not optimized .

[Adak]

I had some trickling in after 24 hours.

The odd thing is that it will take a full week to 10 days for any rig to build up to it's greatest RAC and credits.

In the November big SETI race, we have to keep that in mind.

[muddocktor]

I had some trickling in after 24 hours.

The odd thing is that it will take a full week to 10 days for any rig to build up to it's greatest RAC and credits.

In the November big SETI race, we have to keep that in mind.

Yeah, I think it will take almost a full month to get to full RAC on a machine, so remember that when the race comes up this fall. You need to get the machines up and going at least 2-3 weeks beofre the race for it to be kicking butts and taking names.

[Sir-Epix]

Yeah, I think it will take almost a full month to get to full RAC on a machine, so remember that when the race comes up this fall. You need to get the machines up and going at least 2-3 weeks beofre the race for it to be kicking butts and taking names.

Speaking of the big race this fall...should we start a locked/hidden thread prior to the race for strategy and such?

[tricknasty]

Speaking of the big race this fall...should we start a locked/hidden thread prior to the race for strategy and such?

proly a good idea, a thread only seti members can view or something.
either way the typical strategy is well known- get every machine you possibly can and overclock till they bleed seti

[evomac]

proly a good idea, a thread only seti members can view or something.
either way the typical strategy is well known- get every machine you possibly can and overclock till they bleed seti

that's what I was going to say. I don't think there is much to it other than get every possible machine you can ready and crunching 24x7 about 3 weeks ahead of time..

[Wicked_Pixie]

Ok, thought I'd give SETI a go.

I followed the sticky regarding optimazition (AK?).
6a. Your messages tab in BOINC will report "found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform.
6b. Go to the menu bar in BOINC, select Activity and then "run always" and "network activity always available"

I did not see any message like 6a indicated; but, I went ahead with the 6b.

At 1st the 'time to completion' says 6.5 hrs but by the time it was done, it was less than 2 hrs. http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a122/PixieMarj/2008-05-17_224857.png

So, does that mean I got it installed correctly???
If it helps any, BOINC bench says:
3426 floating point MIPS (Whetstone) per CPU
10580 integer MIPS (Dhrystone) per CPU

Oh and I'm running quad @ 3.6...

TIA

[El<(')>Maxi]

Looks good WP, do you see the four AK_v8 .exe's in Task Manger?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/canny/tm_ak8.jpg

Is so you're good to go.

@ 3600MHz you should rip thru the WU's :D

[Wicked_Pixie]

Noooo...

All I see are 4 Seti instances (Boinc too).
I did it like 6 times already. :bang head
It's saved in the proper folder and everything.
Followed the tutorial to a 'T'. I can't be wrong six times, can I? :confused:

I just don't get the message in 6a...

I'll try again in the morning.

Thanks for the help! :)

[El<(')>Maxi]

Hmm... :beer:

You need these four files:

AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe
AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.manifest
AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.pdb
app_info.xml

In this folder:

C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

Place them in that location when BOINC is not running, ie both boinc.exe & boincmgr.exe are not present in Task Manager ;)


(Boinc too)

You have four boinc.exe in Task Manager?

[Wicked_Pixie]

Hmm... :beer:

You need these four files:

AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.exe
AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.manifest
AK_v8_win_SSSE3x.pdb
app_info.xml

In this folder:

C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu

Place them in that location when BOINC is not running, ie both boinc.exe & boincmgr.exe are not present in Task Manager ;)




You have four boinc.exe in Task Manager?

Hi Max,

I got it working now! I had to do the optional delete and re-insatallation of BOINC. What was weird was, the instruction for 6a and 6b in the sticky was not available to me. It just doesn't show on my msg tab. But task mgr shows all 4 AK_V8's. That's all I care about. :)

Added a 2nd rig BTW. *sigh* Last thing I need is another addiction... :screwy:

[El<(')>Maxi]

Hehe, welcome to the club :D:D:D

[toomnymods]

i've been trying for 3.5 hrs now to try to get this to work on my amd 64 bit cpu, im running windows xp 32 bit version and have downloaded the right app for amd, what do i need to do to keep the boinc thing from running the old version, everytime i try to get it to run the optimized version it does whatever it wants..

[Sephis]

You did get the 32 bit optimized app right?

[toomnymods]

You did get the 32 bit optimized app right?

yep, im confused what to do with the 4 files...
what do i do make them thier own folder in the seti/berkley/project section or just randomly dump them into the specified area.. right now it wont start a wu, says it is :no work available to process: since i put the 4 files into the folder where it says to... this is soo damn anal why cant you just push a button and it configure itself,lol

[Sephis]

First, shut down boinc, then go to the C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder and dump all four files in there.

Not sure why your getting that error message. Have you tried hitting the update button to see if it gets more work? I just download a bunch of work a couple hours ago, so I don't think its the seti server.

[QuietIce]

First you shut BOINC completely down - check Task Manager to be sure. Then you copy the AK files into the "BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu" folder and let it over-write whatever might be there. Then re-start BOINC and it should be running the AK app. For your machine the SSE3 app is the correct one (not SSSE3).


BOINC is pretty automatic as it is compared to some other DC projects. But like OC'ing, if you want the extra performance you gotta' put some blood and sweat into it ... :D

[toomnymods]

First you shut BOINC completely down - check Task Manager to be sure. Then you copy the AK files into the "BOINC/projects/setiathome.berkeley.edu" folder and let it over-write whatever might be there. Then re-start BOINC and it should be running the AK app. For your machine the SSE3 app is the correct one (not SSSE3).


BOINC is pretty automatic as it is compared to some other DC projects. But like OC'ing, if you want the extra performance you gotta' put some blood and sweat into it ... :D

can you call me if your willing to walk me thru this i've tried repeadeatdly for over 5 hours now this is getting very frustrating.. wont work tried 10-12 diffrent methods..

[silent bob]

to all new crunchers , make sure you read and follow this post on getting work, it frustrated me at the beginning . http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=556116

Post #7 is the answer to what needs to be done to ensure having work even during servers down time .

[toomnymods]

sse2 optimized version works fine for me, i guess im just stuck with 22hr work units..
thanks.

[benbaked]

sse2 optimized version works fine for me, i guess im just stuck with 22hr work units..
thanks.

In addition to the AK_v8 optimized client files, did you also copy app_info.xml into the C:\Program Files\BOINC\projects\setiathome.berkeley.edu folder? You'll need app_info.xml in there as well so it can tell BOINC to use your optimized apps, otherwise it will use the default apps.

22 hours seems way too long. It sounds like something is hogging your CPU cycles away from BOINC. Time to look at your task manager and see what is consuming your cpu time.

[El<(')>Maxi]

can you call me

PM your name/number, I'll walk you thru it.

[Brightmorn]

People were asking for the Linux flavor well...

Seti Forums (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46810&nowrap=true#762668)

Direct Links:
AK8 Linux 64bit (http://calbe.dw70.de/linux64.html)
AK8 Linux 32bit (http://calbe.dw70.de/linux32.html)

Enjoy... now I guess a real comparison between Windows and the Penguin Flavors can commence.

[Careface]

I stand thoroughly corrected about what I said in another thread. I had been keeping a close eye on the thread you linked Brightmorn, and it seemed as though a fully functioning linux app was ages away. Good to see theres one now :)

So far from the limited results posted, it seems that the linux port actually surpasses the windows version. Though Im not surprised, its definitely interesting to note.

[QuietIce]

People were asking for the Linux flavor well...

Seti Forums (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=46810&nowrap=true#762668)

Direct Links:
AK8 Linux 64bit (http://calbe.dw70.de/linux64.html)
AK8 Linux 32bit (http://calbe.dw70.de/linux32.html)

Enjoy... now I guess a real comparison between Windows and the Penguin Flavors can commence. Thanks for the link ...! :):thup: