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what's the best air cooler for athlon xp 1600+?
I will buy a dragon orb 3 +!
but i want your opinion!
please help-me!
sorry for my english!
:rolleyes:
i'm from brazil!
:beer:
Swiftech mcx462 with 80mm 80cfm delta fan.
flounder43
01-03-02, 09:18 PM
I would say that you could do much better than the Dragon Orb!
The other products by Thermaltake, like the Volcano 6Cu or Volcano 6Cu+ or Volcano 7 would be better.
The Dragon Orb is excessively heavy, and not that good.
Others will have suggestions as well.
flounder43
01-03-02, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by mEKbOY
Swiftech mcx462 with 80mm 80cfm delta fan.
Yes, that will do the job, but it will also sound like a jet engine.
this is loud?
i would like something not so aloud please!
what's is the price of this air coolers?
the average!
THE vulcano 5cu+ is the same of vulcano 7?
and they are better then a dragon orb 3+?
Volcano 7 is not the same as the Volcano 5.
It'll whoop the 5.
The Orb series of ThermalTake is a disapointment to overclockers since it has poor cooling atributes.
Its best to get a heatsink that is square like the shape of the AMD retail.
Heres my word.
You want looks take the orb.
You want performance take the square heatsink.
I've heard if you think the Dorb is heavy try a full copper heatsink like the Swiftech it weighs close to 2 pounds.
Don't get the Dorb.
Heres my suggestion.
Millennium Glaciator II
ThermalRight SK6
IF you can buy online those two would be great but some can be found in local vendors sometimes.
If not Volcano 7 or Volcano 6cu+.
Yodums
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please post the average of the prices!
Millennium Glaciator II , ThermalRight SK6 , volcano 7 and swiftech I never heard about them before!
please post prices!!!!!
heres some stores:
www.sidewindercomputers.com
www.crazypc.com
www.plycon.com
should carry all the heatsinks you could want.
this stores sends to brazil?
Wicked Klown
01-03-02, 10:33 PM
Put your hands in the air and back away from the Dragon Orb. With that said try to go with either the SK6 or a MC or MCX462 with a good fan. Since you don't want something loud maybe go with a 80mm 50c.f.m Sunon fan.
does the volcano 7 handle the XP 1600 +?
flounder43
01-03-02, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by AGO
does the volcano 7 handle the XP 1600 +?
Yes
http://www.thermaltake.com/v7.htm
thank's guys!
i will buy the volcano 7!
AGO, try Bart at www.1coolpc.com he has Swiftechs and SK6's as well as a host of other cooling gear. He will ship anywhere and his prices are resonable. Tell him RandyB sent ya. ;)
DYNATRON makes a new all copper that is awesome! and designed with the XP in mind...
look for them!
Originally posted by jbell
DYNATRON makes a new all copper that is awesome! and designed with the XP in mind...
look for them! jbell--any links/reviews?
nil_esh
01-04-02, 12:34 AM
I've got Swiftech MCX462 w/ Panaflo High Output (39.6 CFM, 32 dBA -- very quiet) coming in tommorrow.. I'll let you know how it goes. I would imagine the MCX462 is great no matter what fan you put on since it uses 80mm fans (as long as the fan is not too weak). 80mm fans are quieter than 60mm in general.
Big_KiD
01-04-02, 01:05 AM
NO alpha fans here? WTF.. It beats up your swifty..
comparison (http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/roundup1101/index6.html)
the volcano 7 have some problem?
texasfit
01-06-02, 11:02 PM
I personally prefer the Alpha PAL8045 with the 50.6cfm fan.
The SK-6 is nowhere near as good...only the Swiftech and the Glaciator II are near the performance (with the Swiftech being marginally better). The Alpha comes with great mounting hardware in order to have the correct weight on the cpu.
Using it on my Dragon Plus and the idle temp is only 7C above case temp. Under full load there is a +5/6C above idle.
My XP1800+ highest temp reading using MBM is 38C with the average at 32C running Prime95 for 48 hours to test the load.
You can get the PAL8045 at the 1coolpc link above also.
The Volcano 7 is a pretty good fan. I have one in my comp. runs nice.. but better if you snipped off the diode.. you're get more power. the Volcano 6Cu + is good too but pretty load. :beer:
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Asus A7V266-E
Asus V7700 Pure 32DDR @ 220/375 w/ Blue Orb
Athlon XP 1600+ w/ Volcano 7
Sblive 5.1
512 DDR Crucial
bla bla bla...
Creative labs DTT3500
Originally posted by mbigna
jbell--any links/reviews?
Here (http://www.dynatron-corp.com/prodDe...rB=prodlist.asp) you go .... I will find more reviews for ya this is the info site for it.
nikhsub1
01-07-02, 12:29 AM
Originally posted by Big_KiD
NO alpha fans here? WTF.. It beats up your swifty..
comparison (http://www.hardocp.com/reviews/cooling/roundup1101/index6.html)
Alphas are good, but can not beat the MCX462. Recheck you review, that was the MC462, the old one.
William
01-07-02, 12:58 AM
OK, here are the best low noise heatsinks.
MCX462 with any fan but delta
Alpha 8045
Millenium Glaciator II
The Volcano7 is not a bad cooler either. Price wise its
Volcano<Glaciator II<Alpha 8045<MCX
I wouldn't look at the MCX462 as its pricey and not a *ton* better. The alpha is a great cooler and has the nice 4 hole mounts and is pretty good around $48 for a complete heatsink(give or take $6). The Glaciator II is great, but uses the lugs and is heavy. Its not a good choice if you move your computer around a lot. The Volcano7 will probably be the easiest to find though, with the Alpha next. Look around and see what you can find. All of them will do well, it just depends on how much overclocking you want to do.
XprincoX
01-07-02, 04:12 AM
Originally posted by jbell
Here (http://www.dynatron-corp.com/prodDe...rB=prodlist.asp) you go .... I will find more reviews for ya this is the info site for it.
umm... could cha repost that link? :D
"but better if you snipped off the diode"
what's is this?
I don't understand!
my english is poor!
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Volcano<Glaciator II<Alpha 8045<MCX
and the prices?
MCX-462 RETAIL BOX Aluminum Heat Sinkw/Copper Base & DELTA Fan MCX462
price- $ 67
ship- $5-$10
$77
is this a god price?
Originally posted by AGO
"but better if you snipped off the diode"
what's is this?
I don't understand!
my english is poor!
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Volcano<Glaciator II<Alpha 8045<MCX
and the prices?
The Volcano 7 has a RPM sensor to change the rpm..
When set to maximum RPM it won't push maximum unless you snip the RPM controller also known as the diode and connect the max RPM for the full potential of the fan.
Yodums
Alpha PAL8045 with 80x32 Sanyo Denki. Includes extra screws 3-4pin adapter and grill
$ 60
final price- $66
and this price? god?
I don't found price for the glaciator II!
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Originally posted by AGO
MCX-462 RETAIL BOX Aluminum Heat Sinkw/Copper Base & DELTA Fan MCX462
price- $ 67
ship- $5-$10
$77
is this a god price?
At HeatsinkFactory.com its for 71.99 with a 67 Delta..
I believe they use FedEx shipping.
Although its currently out of stock.
Yodums
Originally posted by AGO
Alpha PAL8045 with 80x32 Sanyo Denki. Includes extra screws 3-4pin adapter and grill
$ 60
final price- $66
and this price? god?
I don't found price for the glaciator II!
=[ Get it direct here:
http://www.millennium-thermal.com/start.htm
Glaciator II: $33.75 (US)
Glaciator I SALE!: $20.00 (US--for those on a budget)
The Volcano 7 has a RPM sensor to change the rpm..
When set to maximum RPM it won't push maximum unless you snip the RPM controller also known as the diode and connect the max RPM for the full potential of the fan.
Yodums
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do you have some tutorial to make this?
Originally posted by AGO
The Volcano 7 has a RPM sensor to change the rpm..
When set to maximum RPM it won't push maximum unless you snip the RPM controller also known as the diode and connect the max RPM for the full potential of the fan.
Yodums
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do you have some tutorial to make this?
I basically explained it to you.
Its just snipping a wire stripping them and reconnecting them.
Yodums
just snippinga wire and reconnecting them?
i don't understand this!
some picture?
or draw?
texasfit
01-08-02, 05:48 AM
2Cool has the Alpha PAL8045 for $44 with 50cfm 80mm Fan. I don't know what the shipping would be for you.
2Cool Link (http://2cooltek.safeshopper.com/32/cat32.htm?463)
terranovae
01-08-02, 06:48 AM
Hey guys, I'm getting a new heat sink and the PAL8045 is my first choice. Is every HSF that use screws can be mounted on all board that got holes?
oc jason
01-08-02, 07:13 AM
yep that's how it goes, all HS iwht the 4 screw's , should fit all boards that has the 4 lug, setup.
Originally posted by AGO
i will buy the volcano 7! Hang on there a minute! The Volcano7 is not better than the Dragon Orb3+. Go here (http://www.overclockers.com/articles427/) for the DOrb3+ & here (http://www.overclockers.com/articles479/) for the Volcano7. The Facts are clear on this. A lower C/W the better for cooling.
JoeC
Interpreting C/W: For every watt the CPU radiates, the heatsink will cool the core by the (C/W x watts) plus ambient temp. For example, at an ambient temp of 25 C, a C/W of 0.25 with a CPU radiating 50 watts means that the CPU temp will be 50 x 0.25 = 12.5 C over ambient temp, or 37.5 C. The lower the C/W, the better.
Originally posted by flounder43
I would say that you could do much better than the Dragon Orb!
The other products by Thermaltake, like the Volcano 6Cu or Volcano 6Cu+ or Volcano 7 would be better.Were do you get your information?
The Volcano7 is not better than the Dragon Orb3+??
please help me! don't confuse me!
volcano 7 or dragon orb3+?
what your's choice?
I use the Dragon Orb3+. ThermalTake has made awful products & most Orbs are really useless BUT the DOrb3+ is a good cooler. It's better than the Volcano7. Read the articles that I linked to regarding both products. Look closely at the C/W values.
If they were your only 2 choices then go for the Dragon Orb3+.
but the orb is more loud then the volcano 7!
this compense this more cfm's .
don't you think?
flounder43
01-08-02, 10:35 PM
I would defer to sonny here. He has a DORB, I do not. It is your choice.
tainice
01-09-02, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by AGO
Alpha PAL8045 with 80x32 Sanyo Denki. Includes extra screws 3-4pin adapter and grill
$ 60
final price- $66
and this price? god?
I don't found price for the glaciator II!
=[
You can find Glaciator II here for oversea order, http://www.millennium-thermal.com/overseasorders.htm, and it is $33.75 USD--shipping not included.
I decided to spend more money in my cooler!
i decided to buy the alpha pal8045!
but I have one problem!
witch kit buy?
have many kit's in the 2cooltek!
http://2cooltek.safeshopper.com/32/cat32.htm?463
please help me i don't want nothing louger!
please post more online stores if this cooler!
I suggest you check out Bart Lane (http://1coolpc.com/home/). He ships international unlike some of the online vendors mentioned here. I have purchased a few items from him & have been extremely happy with his service. E-mail him & he will reply within the day. He also has a forum so that you can chat with him. His shop also has a 6.8 out of 7 at reseller ratings.
rivercom9
01-10-02, 12:51 PM
I'd rather go with the MCX-426. Its hands down the best air cooler for the AMD. It does cost a pretty penny though.
I just bought the Swiftech MC462-B (Delta fan).
now i'm finaly decided!
i want buy the alpha pal8045 with the sunon 80mm 39cfm!
please post the lowest prices for this kit!
i found this for $43!
please help me to find this !
one think how much cost the shipping from the 2cooltek?
i don't found in his page!
sorry about the english again!
nil_esh
01-14-02, 12:24 AM
The latest MCX462 is nice because it'll fit just about any mobo. I had a problem with the earlier version with the Gigabyte 7dr and Asus a7v266 I wanted to install on. The new one fits both of those.
I don't know about the the PAL8045's fitting but it sure looks like a great heatsink.
wiresman
04-25-02, 05:30 PM
I have the Volcano 7 for my system, but the fan a dapter and fan are fitted onto the retail heat sink. Until I gather up the supplies to unlock my Athlon XP 1800, and then rebuild the volcano 7 w/copper insert hs and install it with AS3. I know, why did you do this?, Well I wanted to start out easy at first, not crack a core before I tested my other new equipment. I'll pull it off once and do everything I can. Anyway (ADHD) my Volcano ran such low RPM (was quiet though) because of the illplaced thermistor-I believe thats what it is not a diode, a diode conducts juice one way and not the other. I tested it with an ohmeter and it reads both ways. I clipped the thermistor and tied the wires together. Fan runs at 4850 RPM now all the time, didnt bother me at first, but is driving me nuts now. Am planning on rewiring thermistor and putting near heatsink base, and also putting a toggle and a "MaxRPM" led on my 3.5" drive cover above my floppy. the toggle will short across the thermistor and give me max fan speed when I know I will be needing it. I dont leave my system OC'd highly all the time. Does sound like small hairdryer on low speednow though.
Use a Swifty with Delta EHE. Connect a rheostat to slow it down when noise is an issue and turn it back up when you're shootin' it up on line. You can't get better performance with this combination.
Blue Indian
04-26-02, 03:35 AM
Comparison of several HSF including the Dynatron Copper e-CPU Cooler DY1206BH-625, the ThermalRight CB6L, SK6, and Vantec 6035D.
http://www.procooling.com/reviews/html/dynatron_thermalright_vantec_h2.shtml
TRANCER24
04-26-02, 04:45 AM
i just bought the Volcano 7+ and it is the best cooler that i have ever owned it comes with a 3 speed setting switch. :)
himura-dono
04-26-02, 05:03 AM
pobrecito...
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