You know I really need to just stick with EvE..

[Adragontattoo]

Just came back after ANOTHER 6 month break and realized that EvE has most everything I am looking for.

That and the new client with improved graphics is pretty!

/still at my same Cosmos spot, killing rats from a distance.

[CGR]

Eve is ok, but I didnt like the way skills were raised. Just took too long for my taste.

[Atari]

Eve is ok, but I didnt like the way skills were raised. Just took too long for my taste.

Yea, and the missions for me are as fun as watching paint dry. Not to mention you need to have an awesome corp. to really enjoy the game (which usually requires 15+mill sp). I think eve is the first game I've ever encountered that made me not want to loot anything due to the tedious tractor beam and loot method. Oh god I get a headache just thinking about it.

[Adragontattoo]

I have been in OCF, and a few other corps, I have no complaints about being in a corp or not.. I liked OCF and my other corps but they are all in 0.0 mostly now and it just does nothing for me currently. I really need to look at my toons and retire the ones that have been around for a few years but only played for half that time or so.

Hell got bored last night and decided to pvp with a Pirate, he ganked me twice and we had a pleasent conversation about the fact that I suck at EvE after a 6 month absence

[CGR]

I have been in OCF, and a few other corps, I have no complaints about being in a corp or not.. I liked OCF and my other corps but they are all in 0.0 mostly now and it just does nothing for me currently. I really need to look at my toons and retire the ones that have been around for a few years but only played for half that time or so.

Hell got bored last night and decided to pvp with a Pirate, he ganked me twice and we had a pleasent conversation about the fact that I suck at EvE after a 6 month absence

I never went to a 0.0 area, I would have gotten my but handed to me as I didnt have a capital ship, let a lone an escort.


The reason I stopped playing though, was because of BOB and their questionable playing habits.

[Adragontattoo]

I never went to a 0.0 area, I would have gotten my but handed to me as I didnt have a capital ship, let a lone an escort.


The reason I stopped playing though, was because of BOB and their questionable playing habits.

BOB lives in pure blind, I dont so unless they decide to raid the Cosmos plex I live in, I could care less if they cheat all of 0.0.

Eventually I will probably move out to pur blind, but first I REALLY need to get my toons in shape. Though I just spent a few hours running transport runs to move a bunch of gear.

I need a bigger ship(5 dessies, 2 frigs, my mining cruiser and a shuttle) if I want to move the remaining gear though.

[CGR]

I only had an Armageddon as my fighting ship, then a couple ships for mining and such.

[Shell]

Once you get an ORE ship and a BC you'll hav esome more fom, but that takes wayy too long solo without the skills.
Train ALL learning skills to lv4 and get a full set of implants, at least +3's, I have 5 +4's.
I may come back to eve, I have a good character with 10Msp after 2/3 a year of on and off playing.

If the OCF corp is highsec I'd love to join them... or maybe I'll just stick to a decent NPC corp and work autonomous with the friendly corps I know.

P.S. How much does it cost to arrange a hit? I want someone's freighter blown up. You'd only have to deal with 5 weaklings at most.

[DomoRawks]

Hmm, this sounds like Elite 2: Frontier online.
That sounds awesome, I may have a look at this.

[Adragontattoo]

11 Learning skills trained, for a total of 1,991,295 skillPoints.
12 Gunnery skills trained, for a total of 1,719,778 skillPoints.
9 Mechanic skills trained, for a total of 838,903 skillPoints.
6 Spaceship Command skills trained, for a total of 655,614 skillPoints.

Need to work on other skills but that is my best 4 groups currently.

[DanFraser]

Hmm, this sounds like Elite 2: Frontier online.
That sounds awesome, I may have a look at this.

It was inspired by elite :)

[Tw00sh]

I tried it before, but when I saw that my skills take real time to level up, I Quit.

No way to catch up to the current player base. Those players are so far ahead of anyone new that it just make it undesirable for me.

It was too bad too, cause I thought the game looks absolutely amasing.

[Shell]

EvE is a bit of a circle jerk...

Sometimes I wish I could simply trade in my account with 10m SP character for something else... ;)

hahahaha, no.

[Adragontattoo]

you dont NEED to compete with the 50 mill SP player to an extent.

Just because you dont have a billion SP doesnt eliminate you from being able to play. I am mostly using my toon that has the fewest amount of SP.

[-_{MoW}_-Assasi]

woot! :D

Join me! Join me! :D

Im about a week off my trial and im loving it :D

Assasin Ops - Approx 1.2 mil SP :D

[Adragontattoo]

I tried it before, but when I saw that my skills take real time to level up, I Quit.

No way to catch up to the current player base. Those players are so far ahead of anyone new that it just make it undesirable for me.

It was too bad too, cause I thought the game looks absolutely amasing.

to add to my previous post.

Judging by your statment, do you only play games at release and that is it?

The characters with the most amount of SP (IIRC max sp still playing is in the billion SP range but I may be wrong), are usually the nicest folk to talk to because they have the most knowledge, the most play time and have become "bored" with the grind.

You are almost better off starting now because depending on the noob corp or player corp you get into, they will be more then willing to help those that listen and want to learn. When I started playing, I decided I wanted to be a miner/hauler/pvper. Yeah uh that FAILED.

I spent a lot of time, isk and effort to get that toon back into a semblance of order.

3 accts later, I have toons that can comfortably sit at 80km and throw missiles at guys that cant get me BUT I dont do well at the guys that get under 10km from me.

EvE is set up well enough that even a noob player can hop in his ship and within reason not run into a guy who is slaughtering anyone in sight with his fully rigged/kitted T2 BS.

[lokitexas]

Played Eve beta....then tried the game about a year ago. Big difference.
Dont see the hype of it. Cant stand 7eet dudezzzz.

Want a game like Eve? Want pretty graphics? Want to build an empire? Want to mine? Want to make a Corporation? Want to fight pirates? Want to command a fleet of Caps and Fighters? All this w/o a montly fee, no kiddies, and every mod/script you can think of?

Play X3: Reunion.

Heh just my 2 cents.

[Adragontattoo]

Played Eve beta....then tried the game about a year ago. Big difference.
Dont see the hype of it. Cant stand 7eet dudezzzz.

Want a game like Eve? Want pretty graphics? Want to build an empire? Want to mine? Want to make a Corporation? Want to fight pirates? Want to command a fleet of Caps and Fighters? All this w/o a montly fee, no kiddies, and every mod/script you can think of?

Play X3: Reunion.

Heh just my 2 cents.

EvE is an MMO

X3 isnt

SOASE, and how many other games are space based but only single player.

I like EvE, I like a game that makes me think.

[CGR]

My biggest problem with Eve was the skills. As space games go though, it was pretty good. Needed a lot more quest lines for single play though.

[lokitexas]

EvE is an MMO

X3 isnt

SOASE, and how many other games are space based but only single player.

I like EvE, I like a game that makes me think.

I know EVE is an MMO...

My point is X3 has everything EVE does + tons more, and you dont have to deal with the little kids. Like an offline MMO of sorts. Anyway, it was more of a poke of sarcasm.

Maybe its been a long time, but I dont remember EVE being a thinking mans game. Then again I dont consider WoW or EQ a thinking game either. They all seem to come down to how much time you can put into it. Dunno....did they change something?

[CGR]

I know EVE is an MMO...

My point is X3 has everything EVE does + tons more, and you dont have to deal with the little kids. Like an offline MMO of sorts. Anyway, it was more of a poke of sarcasm.

Maybe its been a long time, but I dont remember EVE being a thinking mans game. Then again I dont consider WoW or EQ a thinking game either. They all seem to come down to how much time you can put into it. Dunno....did they change something?

WHAT are you TALKING about?..... CH rotations in EQ took MAJOR mental powers :)

[DomoRawks]

Played X2, it sucked.

Yes you could make a corporation and have fleets of computer controlled ships, but they seemed to blow up whenever looked at strangely.

Is X3 better?

[Lusankya]

I will second.. you do not need to have 30mill SP to kill a 40mill SP player.
Unlike most MMO's.. being a legacy player doesn't make their ship a whole hell of allot stronger, more powerful or uber..

Remember this isn't really a solo 1v1 game.. so sp wont make a difference really.

I have less then 20mill SP so far but I can fly 2 races of battleship, force reons for caldari and gallentte, HAC's, Heavy Dictors.

Unlike most MMO's.. age dosen't automaticly equal victory vs a nub

[lokitexas]

Played X2, it sucked.

Yes you could make a corporation and have fleets of computer controlled ships, but they seemed to blow up whenever looked at strangely.

Is X3 better?

I like X3 better...but X2 had some great features. Not sure about your blowing up problem lol.

But X3 with Xtended mod and some cool scripts = great.

[DomoRawks]

Downloading the trial now.
Never been interested in mmo's before but this sounds really cool.

X2, if ever you were out of the system, you would (almost) always lose the battle

[Tekko]

low and high skillpoint are relative the highest SP character is about 130 million SP but would bet messed up by a 7 mil SP combat pilot, it's all about specialization a nano Vaga with 10-12 millions SP(about 7-9 month play) can mess up almost anything it want. Ok it can't mine, research, build, and a dozen other thing but you can be a perfect(max skills) vaga pilot so it's all about focus if you want to advance fast in a particular field.

[Adragontattoo]

low and high skillpoint are relative the highest SP character is about 130 million SP but would bet messed up by a 7 mil SP combat pilot, it's all about specialization a nano Vaga with 10-12 millions SP(about 7-9 month play) can mess up almost anything it want. Ok it can't mine, research, build, and a dozen other thing but you can be a perfect(max skills) vaga pilot so it's all about focus if you want to advance fast in a particular field.

You sure that the highest active is only 130 mill sp?

I STILL stand by my opinion that dealing with boring for a month while you train all the learning skills to 4 at least will make the rest of the game SO much better.

If anyone is looking at joining the game, if you create a amarr, I am still running Level 1 missions in Penirgman (albeit in a Cruiser or BC).

I also have a Minnie and a Caldari that I can migrate elsewhere (to an extent). They are my farmers, they live in a 4/10 COSMOS Deadspace perma plex and do nothing but sit out there shooting ships and occasionally salvaging.

[DomoRawks]

My God this game is infuriating
It must have the worst control system ever, It just drives me insane.
I've got two weeks, so we shall see how it goes, but if things dont improve quick, I may even delete it.

[CGR]

My God this game is infuriating
It must have the worst control system ever, It just drives me insane.
I've got two weeks, so we shall see how it goes, but if things dont improve quick, I may even delete it.

It definitely has an above average learning curve..

[DanFraser]

My God this game is infuriating
It must have the worst control system ever, It just drives me insane.
I've got two weeks, so we shall see how it goes, but if things dont improve quick, I may even delete it.

First thing to learn: there is no control system...

[deathman20]

EVE has an extremly high end learning curve due to the fact its not holding ur hand at all threw anything.

BTW Adragontattoo, you know I've said the same thing many times. Why do I even bother leaving, just leave the account active, take a break here and there and all is well :) I've left 3 times since it came out. Its just not worth it hehe to cancel the account I have to much fun in there with peeps.

[CGR]

Yea, if your gonna leave and think you will play again, keep paying so at least you can level a skill that will take a month or two.

[DomoRawks]

Warning, at some point this developed into a mad rant

Nar, not for me, did the first two agents missions, took on the third and just got completely owned by some soft drinks company goons.
The placement of everything just seems to be completely nonsensical and theres just nothing to start you with.
I think, rather than fight these dudes, or more accuratly get blown up by them, I dont think I even hit anyone, I was supposed to use some accelerator doo hicky that was nearby, but there was no information about what it was anywhere.

The "tutorial" although thourough in what it explained, just didnt cover enough. I was told I can mine ore, I figured out I can sell the ore, or convert it, but I'm not entirely sure which I should do, or why I would want to do it, or why I wouldnt, or if I'm getting a good price when selling it even.

It could have just been done so much better.
You could start with just a cheap nasty ship with no shields, armour, or weapons, just a mining laser.
The tutorial could teach you mining, then selling/converting ect ore, buying shields and armour and weapons and fitting them to your ship and so forth, maybe doing a drone shooting mission, then a people who shoot back mission afterwards.

Yeah I suppose theres guides out there somewhere and I dont expect the in game tutorial to make me the uber lord, but it should at least tell me what most of the buttons do.

If thats missing so early, then what else has been missed.

Which is really a shame, because it does look like quite a fun game, but I'm just too old to spend hundreds of ours figuring out how everything works.

Or do I just have nostalgic memories of picking up elite and everything being where you would expect.

[Adragontattoo]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a64/Adragontattoo/LearningCurve.jpg

[DomoRawks]

its been alomost 5 mi9nutes and I'm still laughing at that

[Adragontattoo]

I found that pic and KNEW that people wh play EvE beyond the trial would be laughing or agreeing with it.

I can honestly say that pic is almost dead on as well.

[deathman20]

I found that pic and KNEW that people wh play EvE beyond the trial would be laughing or agreeing with it.

I can honestly say that pic is almost dead on as well.

That pic is spectacular!!!

[iceage]

I like how even when you get past the overhang and on top of the cliff, the bulldozer is there to scrape away the apparently sizeable amount of dead. ;)

[ShadowPho]

Yea, and the missions for me are as fun as watching paint dry. Not to mention you need to have an awesome corp. to really enjoy the game (which usually requires 15+mill sp). I think eve is the first game I've ever encountered that made me not want to loot anything due to the tedious tractor beam and loot method. Oh god I get a headache just thinking about it.

To be in awesome corp you do not need crazy sp. You just need some game skills/ or contacts. And 0.0 is just amazing... with the adrenaline factor and knowing that I am the poorest man in my corp lol.

lol.

[WejRepus]

i kind of miss EVE now... though AoC is treating me well.
and that pic is so spot on it is almost not funny... but then again I can't stop laughing

[Adragontattoo]

Yea, and the missions for me are as fun as watching paint dry. Not to mention you need to have an awesome corp. to really enjoy the game (which usually requires 15+mill sp). I think eve is the first game I've ever encountered that made me not want to loot anything due to the tedious tractor beam and loot method. Oh god I get a headache just thinking about it.


How long did you play for?

The level one missions in anything above the noob ship are almost a cakewalk, once you get enough SP under your belt you can almost ignore the damage in and just pay attention to your damage output.

I am in the noob corp and I dont even mind, I help people out in it if they ask but otherwise I just BS in corp chat while I am blowing up stations, habitats, ships and the occasional Merchant Gate.

[ShadowPho]

The level one missions in anything above the noob ship are almost a cakewalk, once you get enough SP under your belt you can almost ignore the damage in and just pay attention to your damage output.


lol, reminds me of a time when I was taking on a lvl 4 mission with my brand new ferox... or was it raven? oh boy, that was a MESS.

[Adragontattoo]

lol, reminds me of a time when I was taking on a lvl 4 mission with my brand new ferox... or was it raven? oh boy, that was a MESS.

The only mission I have been worried on so far is L2 Recon (2of3) I started tanking it but had the wrong fit and when the third wave warped in, I had to pop on the second repper, Cap booster and warp out to refit.

[deathman20]

The only mission I have been worried on so far is L2 Recon (2of3) I started tanking it but had the wrong fit and when the third wave warped in, I had to pop on the second repper, Cap booster and warp out to refit.

Yup L1 and L2 are easy. Say in a cruiser more or less no major worries. L3 a BC is needed for some, its ideal, and L4 a BS. If you add in T2 ships then well it mixes things up a wee bit for what ship can do what since I can easily mission in my Commandship in a LVL4 no issues just takes longer is all.

[Adragontattoo]

Yup L1 and L2 are easy. Say in a cruiser more or less no major worries. L3 a BC is needed for some, its ideal, and L4 a BS. If you add in T2 ships then well it mixes things up a wee bit for what ship can do what since I can easily mission in my Commandship in a LVL4 no issues just takes longer is all.

If I had the correct fit, it wouldnt have been an issue really, problem was that I DIDNT...

I have already tanked an L3 in the Proph with only two warp outs (ran outta cap boosters and to fit correct resists).

I dont fit for speed, I fit to live. My Proph couldnt get out of the way of a freighter, but I bet I could live through its escort.

[DanFraser]

All recon 1 to 3 missions can be done in a shuttle :) its recon, not shoot :p

[zexmarquies01]

0.o

Omg...

I'm watching Battlestar Galactica at the moment, and there was a full EVE commercial. Suffice to say, i was quite shocked. I didn't realize they even had TV ads. I know they have internet ads at alot of gaming sites, but this is the 1st time I've seen an Eve-online ad on TV.

Plus, you KNOW MILLIONS of people watch Battlestar Galactica. So at least a million people had to have seen this AD. I could only wonder what a commercial during BSG would cost!. Since its SciFi's most popular show.

anyone else see any TV ads for Eve-online?

[DanFraser]

The Nyx crashing into a station? You should see the other one! Go to the eve forums and hunt around the stickies...

[deathman20]

Wow EVE TV spot. I swear there was one on some other time. But was mistaken.